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Subject: A few more promos to add
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 00:19:00 PDT
From: "Patrick D. Oltraver" (seraphim@CTS.COM)
Subject: Re: einexile vs (shane vs (einexile vs (Matthias vs (eric vs
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 00:16:09 -0700
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: einexile vs shane matthias vs eric vs lars vs kelli vs warren vs
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 01:14:10 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: (Seefeel Remixing) Cocteau's on "The White Room"
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 10:56:05 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@GXL.WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: list
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 11:27:20 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@GXL.WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: new Belly EP ltd. format
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 11:47:32 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@GXL.WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: MBV List...& St Etienne
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 03:00:08 +1000
From: Donald Chin (donaldc@ACSLINK.NET.AU)
Subject: Re: his name is alive
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 10:03:07 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: hnia q? + bigg art cred
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 10:08:01 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: einexile vs the world (and other flames)
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 12:17:23 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@gxl.woodtech.com)
Subject: And Also The Trees Home Page (fwd)
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 13:00:45 +0200
From: SlowPulseUlisse (d92-upe@nada.kth.se)
Subject: Re: throwing muses
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 14:19:16 EDT
From: Mike Mario (mario@thepub.whats.att.com)
Subject: the last w o r d
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 12:29:24 -0700
From: illusory k (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Darkwave
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 14:41:27 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Darkwave
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 14:49:30 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: A few more promos to add
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 22:20:18 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: (Seefeel Remixing) Coctea...
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 17:36:15 -0400
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: new Belly EP ltd. format
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 17:36:27 -0400
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)

Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 00:19:00 PDT
From: "Patrick D. Oltraver" (seraphim@CTS.COM)
Subject: A few more promos to add


I have these promos.  Not sure if they are considered 'true' 4ad, but they
are 4ad bands, so here goes....

ULTRA VIVID SCENE - CANDIDA
CHAOS / COLUMBIA OSK5111

1. CANDIDA (REMIX)
2. SHE'S A DIAMOND
3. WINTER SONG
4. THIS IS THE WAY (PART 2)
5. CANDIDA (THEME FROM "RED PRESSURE MOUNTING")
---------------------------------------------------------------

FRANK BLACK - CALISTAN
4AD / ELECTRAPRCD 9037-2

1. CALISTAN (LP VERSION)
----------------------------------------------------------------

BELLY - NOW THEY'LL SLEEP
SIRE / REPRISE PRO-CD-7383

1. NOW THEY'LL SLEEP (ALBUM VERSION)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------
It  worries me this kind of thing         ^^^^^        seraphim@cts.com
How we hope to live alone          ------   Patrick D. Oltraver
And occupy our waking hours        /\/\/\/\/\/\     Manoeuvering Orchestrally
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------

Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 00:16:09 -0700
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: Re: einexile vs (shane vs (einexile vs (Matthias vs (eric vs


> Weren't we just a moment ago? What is this you're doing?

Being counted.


shane | shane@trex.org


Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 01:14:10 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: einexile vs shane matthias vs eric vs lars vs kelli vs warren vs

              etc

On Sat, 13 May 1995, shane wrote:

> > Weren't we just a moment ago? What is this you're doing?
>
> Being counted.

By whom?


Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 10:56:05 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@GXL.WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: (Seefeel Remixing) Cocteau's on "The White Room"


---from Andrew Dean:

> um, if i remember rightly, a member of seefeel did the live mixing for
> the recent cocteau's tv appearance on the white room on channel 4 but
> they were both newish songs (although don't ask me what they were)

Speaking of which, does anyone have this on videotape, perchance?  I'd
love to see it.

And wasn't "Carolyn's Fingers" one of the songs that they did?  I
remember reading a post from someone that saw the show, probably on the
UK-Indie list.

---Jeremy  Still laughing at some of the would-
                                    be CT lyric translations on their
                                    web page (I knew I shouldn't have
                                    looked).


Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 11:27:20 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@GXL.WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: list


---from SDUPONT@EAC.CC.AZ.US:

> whom have i reached?

Your mama!  ;G)  (Nice grammar, at least.)

---Jeremy  ...can't get enough of those wacky
                                    "your mama" jokes.

Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 11:47:32 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@GXL.WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: new Belly EP ltd. format


---from Jon Wichmann:

> is it me..or does the US get the short end of the stick where
> belly singles are concerned..
>
> i don't mind paying the extra cash for the uk singles..
>
> but whats with releasing a different one for the us and the uk..
> and then making the uk single in 3 parts
> and making the compilation of all 3 uk singles
> nearly impossible to get outside of the UK?
>
> sorry to be a bit hostile, but i am in a bad mood..

Hey, you've got every right to be hostile.  This trend towards multiple
and limited edition releases is bullshit; we know it, the labels know it,
and they *know* we know it.  SO what are we going to do about it?  As
long as people continue to pay, they'll continue to exploit us.  It's not
like 4AD is above such tactics anymore.  Fuckers...(and I even hate
Belly!)

---Jeremy  ...who can't really talk after paying
                                    $10.98 apiece for each of the three
                                    versions of Nitzer Ebb's "Kick It"
                                    single (ouch).

Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 03:00:08 +1000
From: Donald Chin (donaldc@ACSLINK.NET.AU)
Subject: MBV List...& St Etienne


Hi

I saw a posting that mentioned a MBV list. What is the subscription details
for that list?

Thanks...

BTW, Great news about St Etienne not splitting up. Is the project that Bob
and Pete are working on with the three vocalists called Golden. They have two
songles out on Bob's Icerink label.

Cheers

Donald


--..........
Donald Chin ............         \|/
donaldc@acslink.net.au  .........-o-
--......................         /|\

Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 10:03:07 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: his name is alive


>        The EP _The Dirt Eaters_ came out before _Mouth by Mouth_. The
US
>version of _Home is in Your Head_ has TDE tacked on at the end (minus
a sample
>of Jack Niclson).

does the original version of The Dirt Eaters ep have any songs that
Home is in Your Head? because i got HIIYH domestic so i wouldn't have
to buy "the dirt eaters" aswell.


                                                -robert.

Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 10:08:01 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: hnia q? + bigg art cred


You wrote:
>
>Speaking of the US releases for Livonia and Home Is in Your Head, are
>they still in print? I have not seen them for a while. They are nice
>packages, even if I object to the pairing of HIYH with the ep.
>

i'm not sure about Livonia but i know you can still get the US version
of HIIYH... i think you can even get it from Darkwave, if you get their
full catolog....  i'm not sure though, because i found mine used.


                                        -robert.
PS- anyone else get the full
darkwave catalog... they carry
alot of 4AD, plus some really good
shoegazer, indie, ethereal and tech./ambient
stuff.






>have been warned! Log out now! Did Chris Bigg in fact design the
artwork
>for Revelations? There is no design credit on the cd and I get the
>distinct impression that the art was thrown together from rejected
>concepts for previous releases.
>
>And one more time, just in case: did Seefeel's _FractureTied_ (well,
>that's how it's listed) ever appear in a plastic case or digipak? I
have
>heard reports of a version not released in a crummy cd-sleeve but
never
>seen such.
>
>Recommend go see Crimson Tide. Hell of a flick.
>
>
> einexile
>


Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 12:17:23 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@gxl.woodtech.com)
Subject: Re: einexile vs the world (and other flames)


---from you-know-who:

> On Fri, 12 May 1995, shane wrote:
>
> > I find all this to fit in the "repulsive garbage" category.
> > Let's talk about MUSIC, hm?

[A point I agree with, incidentally.]

> Weren't we just a moment ago? What is this you're doing?

God forbid someone else should have the last word...

> Obviously on a mailing list some of the discussion ought to and will be
> about the nature of that list. Personally I find telling people to shut
> up and change the subject more offensive that any of the subjects in
> question.

I think that what people find "offensive" is dragging out stupid
flame-wars, especially when the topic is not and never has been
list-related.  Someone who didn't know Kelli made a dumb statement, was
attacked, and apologized.  If you doubt the sincerity of his apology,
take it private.

Now I'll just kick back and wait for the inevitable "last word".

...and while I'm at it...

---from Kelly aka Super31@netcom.com:

>>> They were sued (?) by the dumbshits at Verve, a jazz label,
>>> because they were afraid that their customers would buy (The) Verve's
>>> albums thinking they were Verve label releases
>>
>> Hahahahahahahahahaha... this has needed to be said for the longest
>> time.
>
> Actually, Verve records has been around for far longer than The Verve
> and represent considerably more talent... true The Verve has done some
> cool music, but jazz is a far superior form of music than any
> alternative three-chord song. Just my opinion.

...and what a cool, hip opinion it is!  Actually, thanks for completely
missing the point.  I don't give a flying one how long Verve has been
around, or how cool it is to like jazz.  The point is (your attention,
The Verve's albums as Verve label releases (especially when they're
usually found in a completely different part of the store), then they
(Verve, the label) must think their fans are idiots (end of point).

---Jeremy  My head's a rocket full of gin but
                                    not quite dead.

Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 12:32:06 -0500
From: bob k (anaconda@WWA.COM)
Subject: And Also The Trees Home Page (fwd)


Just thought I would pass this along. I have received word that
this page is up and running and out of Beta Test by Ulisse.

Finally, someone put together a Trees page. Nice too.

If And Also The Trees does not interest you (though they should),
you may quit reading now.

-------- Forwarded message --------

Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 13:00:45 +0200
From: SlowPulseUlisse (d92-upe@nada.kth.se) Hello, everybody! I'm using fernando's mailing list to reach as many Trees addicts as possible, 'cause I'd like to announce that I've constructed a web page for our lovely Trees, and I'd like to all to have a previw of it before I "launch" it into "cyberspace" (...sort of). It's not really finished, but I'm working on it! I'd like you all to please take a look at it and give me as much feedback as possible. Tell me everything you want, even about small typos or weird grammar errors; my english is far from being perfect! Also, comments of any sort, critics, suggestions..... whatever. And, most important, if you have something that's missing in the page (pictures or articles that I don't have, a biography) send it to me! The address is: http://www.nada.kth.se/~d92-upe/AATT/aatt.html ============================================== Thanks AndAlsoTheTrees : BalancingOnTheWind . InTheRoseIWillBelieve WaltzesWithTheRibbonsOfDistantWinterAir . AsAVoiceBeneathThe MillpondSings . CathedralQuietAndNarcoticSeas . IRageIntoThe Day . IConfess******************************************AATT AnUneasinessIn* SlowPulseUlisse d92-upe@nada.kth.se *AATT MyLoveForYou .* *AATT WhispersFollow* Royal Institute Of Technology *AATT Shantell . The* Computer Science (Stockholm Sweden) *AATT NightLeavesHer******************************************AATT OnTheFloor . CaughtBetweenIdealsAndDesires . ICouldLiveInThe SpaceBetweenHisHeartbeats . TheLeavesCryDropsOfIce . Silence

Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 14:19:16 EDT
From: Mike Mario (mario@thepub.whats.att.com)
Subject: Re: throwing muses


I was at the show also, don't remember what came after BYG.  Enjoyed
the show very much, nice to see the place as crowded as it was.

Had a question of my own.  Immediately after the show when the lights came
back on, what was the music that was playing?

Anyone else there?

--mike


Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 12:29:24 -0700
From: illusory k (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: the last w o r d


  everything's kool. my head is out of the stressclouds of life
  and e is just voicing his opinion...one of which i will always value as he
  is my bestest pal. let's just chuck this li'l flamette into the
  garbage and start over.

  happy birthday to me. i can legally drink. whoopee.
  so far i have a box full of neat stuff from my *j*  {along with a
  picture of our future baby 8-track}, and a $600+ phone bill...

  i knew the 5am rainshower was an omen...

  happy 4ad-ing, kellimachinedrumguitar

Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 14:41:27 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Darkwave


How about some info on this Darkwave thing?

Eric E. Wittmershaus
eewittme@students.wisc.edu
eric.wittmershaus@mail.admin.wisc.edu

Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 14:49:30 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: Darkwave


On Sat, 13 May 1995, King of the Monsters! wrote:

> How about some info on this Darkwave thing?
>
Write Darkwave2@aol.com and I'm sure they'll send you some.

Martin


Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 22:20:18 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: A few more promos to add


Patrick,

Thanks for your reply concerning my 4AD US promos list. The promos you
listed are true 4AD, but will feature in the second list, containing those
4AD acts that are or were not part of 4AD's deal with Warners.

Regards,

Frank

++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++


Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 17:36:15 -0400
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: (Seefeel Remixing) Coctea...


> probably on the
UK-Indie list.

Can anyone post the uk-indie list address?

Thanks,

Jason

srilank@aol.com

Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 17:36:27 -0400
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: new Belly EP ltd. format


>Hey, you've got every right to be hostile.  This trend towards multiple
>and limited edition releases is bullshit; we know it, the labels know it,
>and they *know* we know it.  SO what are we going to do about it?

Oh so true.  Take into account, as many who have shelled out the cash already
have, that each 4AD long-play release has had an alternate or "limited"
format to accompany the normal one.

Belly-King & Ltd. Book King
Throwing Muses-University & Ltd. University w/ Postcards? (I'm still waiting)
Wolfgang Press-FLD & FLD double cd set
Red House Painters-Ocean Beach & Ocean Beach 2 x 10" vinyl.

Up to this point, it has been only a mild irritant to pay into the collectors
trap, but being one who accrues 4AD releases, I do.  However, this deal with
the Belly single is ridiculous.  No, you can't order it through the 4AD
mail-order, no, you're local (at least USA distributor), can't get it, and
no, we can't swim the English channel to show those at 4AD that we are worthy
enough to purchase the pending ltd. Belly singles (but only if we know the
magic word).  Will we boycott?  Hardly.  But, I'm starting to get strapped,
and with the upcoming release of the deluxe v23 exhibition book (very ltd.
*suprise*) and the Belly singles, us 4AD enthusiasts in the US are beginning
to wane in our excitement.

Waiting for the 20 cd Dead Can Dance "the lost recordings" to be released
only in SW London on the dates of Sept. 22 & 24, from 2am to 4am, numbered
pressing of 10, and weighing in at a hefty 4000#,

Jason

srilank@aol.com


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