Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:31:58 CST
Here's a interesting rumour, Seefeel may be remixing songs from the
Cocteau Twins Treasure album for a sort of re-release in the near
future. The new Cocteau Twins LP out later this year is sounding
something out of the Treasure era.
Also reports that Mark Red House Painters fired his band may prove to
be false. They might actually all be getting along and playing better
than ever. Has anybody who has seen them on the current live tour
confirm or not confirm this ?
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:14:00 EST
As far as I know, that play was turned into the musical My Fair Lady. Also
Pygmalion is a mythical Roman, but I can not think of what he is actually
reknown for.
>Actually, Pygmalion is the title to a play by George Bernard Shaw (so you
>were close about the Opera bit). He's one of them classic Irish
Harm Ellens
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 09:01:08 -0700
isn't pygmalion what 'my fair lady' was based on?
--
([email protected])
just a boy playing possum...
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 02:29:24 -0600
Greetings all!
I want to welcome Michael Dziedzic as the new Assistant Webmaster for the
Dead Can Dance WWW Site (http://www.nets.com/dcd.html). Michael has done
a graphical overhaul to the web site, making your journey a far more
enjoyable one.
Stay tuned for more exciting changes to the web site in the near future,
as well.
I also want to personally thank all of the people who responded to the
help wanted announcement regarding the opening. I really appreciate it.
Take care, and stop by for a visit...
-Raven Zachary
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 09:32:02 +0100
95 01:49:50 pm
Jeremy L Orr
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 02:44:25 -0700
On Wed, 10 May 1995, Matthias Walzner wrote:
[flameroo deleted]
> Both of you: Is this the style here or what?
> To einexile: Actually I got more information out of Erics` letters than from
> your daily insults....so I am quite sure whose presence is needed here!
I'm sorry if you feel at the receiving end of my insults. There are many
on this list who consider them to be valid opinion. Perhaps next time you
are insulted you ought to defend your honor.
> Maybe you should look out for a different mailing list or open up one, like:
> alt.misc.rude
Is this really necessary? Yes the 'style' here is a fight now and then,
which I consider, even at the level of Eric's silly response, to be a far
cry above your sanctimonious posturing.
> To Eric: Next time, just be more careful. You apologized and I guess that is
> just fine...pobably the last word has to be spoken by *k-j*.
As if such a random and thoughtless statement can be made acceptable by
the specific victim. Kelli can defend herself; I don't even know if Eric was
wrong or not. My beef with him was that he didn't care whether or not he
was wrong, but bred unnecessary distrust on this list, and suspicion
about an individual in naming that individual without doing any
investigating on his own.
The apology was for upsetting k-j, not for posting repulsive garbage to
this mailing list. It is obvious that Eric is not truly sorry, but just
red in the face. After all, he is angry that the offense is not summarily
forgiven.
Except that now you appear to have done so.
e
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 02:49:15 -0700
I find all this to fit in the "repulsive garbage" category.
Let's talk about MUSIC, hm?
delete
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 02:57:41 -0700
On Tue, 9 May 1995, Jeremy L Orr wrote:
> They're now known as The Verve, and I'm pretty sure that this change is
> worldwide, not just in America, although if anyone knows for a fact (i.e.
> not just spouting off) that the contrary is truly the case, I'd like to
> know.
This may qualify as just spouting off, so I'll pretend it's a question.
Wasn't _No Come Down_ a joint US/UK release? It has catalog numbers for
both Hut and Vernon Yard on it.
Also, the name change was reported in MM without reference to country, if
memory serves.
A pity their label didn't spend less on the big fancy digipak and more on
defending their ass in court. At least the new name they picked had a bit
thumb to it. The music press deserve some credit for not honoring these
bogus name changes.
> They were sued (?) by the dumbshits at Verve, a jazz label,
> because they were afraid that their customers would buy (The) Verve's
> albums thinking they were Verve label releases; apparently, they have
> about as much respect their customers as I do.
Hahahahahahahahahaha...this has needed to be said for the longest time.
> (For future reference,
> see Kid in the Hall Bruce McCullough's anti-jazz skit
How? Can't get enough anti-jazz skits around here...
einexile, waiting for siouxsie to sue neil...
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 06:07:22 -0400
i have been looking for smiths stuff on the net, and i
cannot find any! does anyone know if there is a smiths web or
mailing list or ANYTHING???
(or Morrissey, of course)
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 11:19:57 +0100
95 06:07:22 am
Julie Estrada
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 06:30:58 -0400
Thanks for the info...I tried the address you gave me and it
doesn't exist.
Oh well...I'll keep searching. I just looooove The Smiths!!!
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:32:19 -0700
um, if i remember rightly, a member of seefeel did the live mixing for
the recent cocteau's tv appearance on the white room on channel 4 but
they were both newish songs (although don't ask me what they were)
--
([email protected])
just a boy playing possum...
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 04:37:00 -0700
Mark Clifford is the name of the gentlemen you are referring to I
believe. And Robin tells me that those songs are still untitled when they
did the tv appearance and expect them to appear on an ep this year...
should be interesting....
btw, anyone have a discography of Moose handy? I've been digging their
stuff lately but don't know what I am missing... thanks...
-jack huynh
[email protected]
On Fri, 12 May 1995, Andrew Dean wrote:
> um, if i remember rightly, a member of seefeel did the live mixing for
> the recent cocteau's tv appearance on the white room on channel 4 but
> they were both newish songs (although don't ask me what they were)
>
> --
> ([email protected])
> just a boy playing possum...
>
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 09:03:45 EDT
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Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:30:49 +0200
May 11 Philip Locke wrote about upcoming Belly releases:
>The new UK release is a 3 (yes _three_) part single for "Seal My Fate."
>( ) understanding is that the first, due this week, contains "Seal My Fate"
>plus 3 non-album tracks. The second, due next week, contains "Seal My Fate"
>(live) plus 3 live tracks. The third, due the following week, contains "Seal
>My Fate" (acoustic) plus 3 acoustic tracks. There will be an _extremely_
>limited version containing all 3 discs in a single package.
I asked Cliff af 4AD about the limited version, and he answered:
>Unconfirmed as yet, but it won't be 3 CD singles, but it will be v.
collectable.
>It is only being released in the UK and won't be available through export and
>probably not through mail order either. Released in early July
Frank
++++++++++++
[email protected]
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Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:40:22 +0100
would anyone happen to know how impossible it would be to find the
Sixteen Days-Gathering Dust EP? I would kill for a copy.
interesting fact: Allison Limerick (of "Drugs" and "Alone" TMC songs)
is coming to Lancaster University to perform some of her dance music.
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:00:29 -0400
that smiths list is kind of wierd
they do talk alot about anyting but the smiths and morrissey
i have been trying to get off it and i cannot so be careful
mi ch a el
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:14:14 -0400
>>would anyone happen to know how impossible it would be to find the
Sixteen Days-Gathering Dust EP? I would kill for a copy.<<
It's not hard to find. I got a brand new copy for $7 at Newbury Comics
here in Boston. You can order it via 4AD Mail Order, if I'm not mistaken.
Mike
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 10:31:44 -0700
> > My Bloody Valentine , The new record by ---- $50 (Australian)
> Well, I hope this helps. Somebody over on the MBV list stated
> this was a bootleg cd of a live performance in Osaka Japan that came out
No, I think that one's "soon".
> shortly after "Loveless" was released. I also heard it was a pre-Bilinda
> album that came out that is only worth it for the true collectors.
Sounds more like it...
[email protected]
"He who clearly apprehends the scheme of existence does not rejoice over
life, nor repine at death; for he knows that external limits are not final."
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:27:32 +0000
was just wondering.. his name is alive - is this a christ reference?
i'm also reminded of lyrics 'you aint got god in the city, and i'm so
tired of this'
anyway..
btw, what was the name of the hnia single just before mouth by mouth,
put out by 4ad, was it dirt eaters? hmm..
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:57:57 -0500
an Ear" at May 12, 95 12:14:14 pm
>
> >>would anyone happen to know how impossible it would be to find the
> Sixteen Days-Gathering Dust EP? I would kill for a copy.<<
>
> It's not hard to find. I got a brand new copy for $7 at Newbury Comics
> here in Boston. You can order it via 4AD Mail Order, if I'm not mistaken.
>
Next question: what are the details on 4AD Mail Order?
--iSpy--
>
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 11:26:39 -0700
>> They were sued (?) by the dumbshits at Verve, a jazz label,
>> because they were afraid that their customers would buy (The) Verve's
>> albums thinking they were Verve label releases
>Hahahahahahahahahaha... this has needed to be said for the longest time.
Actually, Verve records has been around for far longer than The Verve
and represent considerably more talent... true The Verve has done some
cool music, but jazz is a far superior form of music than any alternative
three-chord song. Just my opinion. Besides, the new (The) Verve is
pretty horrible.
Kelly
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 04:41:37 +1000
On Fri, 12 May 1995, Terry Collins wrote:
> >
> > >>would anyone happen to know how impossible it would be to find the
> > Sixteen Days-Gathering Dust EP? I would kill for a copy.<<
> >
> > It's not hard to find. I got a brand new copy for $7 at Newbury Comics
> > here in Boston. You can order it via 4AD Mail Order, if I'm not mistaken.
> >
> Next question: what are the details on 4AD Mail Order?
>
> --iSpy--
> >
>
4ad
P.O. Box 3813
London SW18 1XE
U.K.
The catalogue has TMC-'Song to the Siren/Sixteen Days,Gathering Dust'
12", 3 tracks, BAD 310
Hope this helps.
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" Not only am I not learning anything,
but I'm forgetting stuff I used to know!" -- The Simpsons
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:13:29 -0700
You wrote:
>
>>>And pardon my ignorance, but where did the word _Pygmalion_ come
from,
>>>anyway?
>>
>
>>it's from a greek myth, in which Pygmalion is a sculpture who creates
>>the most beautiful statue of his ideal woman... he falls in love with
>>it, has sex with it, etc. etc. and then one day
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:12:13 -0700
You wrote:
>
>-- [ From: Norman Levenstein * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
>
>a while back, i heard 'wings of joy.' although i liked the overall
>sound and texture, i was upset with the lack of melody. i was
wondering
>if subsequent releases solved this problem. any recommendations would
>be much appreciated.
you must check out "forever"
-robert.
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 04:52:11 +1000
A little while ago I mentioned how the Throwing Muses were guest
programmers on an australian video show, is anyone interested in what
they played if so then I'll type it in.
What can anybody tell me about the 'Lilliput' promo, is this worth getting?
Also what about a CD of Cocteau Twins b-sides,'forgotten 4ad tracks' does
anyone know anything about this one?
Thanks.
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" Not only am I not learning anything,
but I'm forgetting stuff I used to know!" -- The Simpsons
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:05:14 -0700
> What can anybody tell me about the 'Lilliput' promo, is this worth getting?
If you've got about $100 to spare, yes. Big fancy book, two CDs.
> Also what about a CD of Cocteau Twins b-sides,'forgotten 4ad tracks' does
> anyone know anything about this one?
Hasn't this been answered about half a dozen times already?
It's a bootleg of the box set. If you already have the box,
you don't need this.
brant
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:26:13 -0400
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Here ye here ye!
Announcing the newly renovated and ever-rich official Dead Can Dance WWW
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News
Information
Discography
Interviews
Reviews
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Links to other DCD-related sites on the WWW
Sound samples of all their music
Tour dates (when applicable)
Updates on their upcoming albums
Lyrics
& a new interface to boot...
Just aim your web browser of choice to
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:28:12 -0600
whom have i reached?
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 13:46:00 M
>was just wondering.. his name is alive - is this a christ reference?
>i'm also reminded of lyrics 'you aint got god in the city, and i'm so
>tired of this'
Warren told me that the only confirmed "Christian"
in the group was Tray and he hasn't been in on
the HNIA project from the beginning so go figger...
...as far as the lyrics are concerned you never know
where they come from...tons of them are coppied from
other poets as *k-j* has pointed out in the past so
it is really hit and miss...everything with Warren is
either a big lie or a big secret...hmmmmmmmm...whatever
the message intended, they are a great group and
being a Christian myself I love the religious conotations...
-Jacob Paul Leonard
...I was a girl too...
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:37:13 -0400
On Fri, 12 May 1995, Frank Brinkhuis wrote:
>
> >The new UK release is a 3 (yes _three_) part single for "Seal My Fate."
> >( ) understanding is that the first, due this week, contains "Seal My Fate"
> >plus 3 non-album tracks. The second, due next week, contains "Seal My Fate"
> >(live) plus 3 live tracks. The third, due the following week, contains "Seal
> >My Fate" (acoustic) plus 3 acoustic tracks. There will be an _extremely_
> >limited version containing all 3 discs in a single package.
>
> I asked Cliff af 4AD about the limited version, and he answered:
>
> >Unconfirmed as yet, but it won't be 3 CD singles, but it will be v.
> collectable.
> >It is only being released in the UK and won't be available through export and
> >probably not through mail order either. Released in early July
>
is it me..or does the US get the short end of the stick where
belly singles are concerned..
i don't mind paying the extra cash for the uk singles..
but whats with releasing a different one for the us and the uk..
and then making the uk single in 3 parts
and making the compilation of all 3 uk singles
nearly impossible to get outside of the UK?
sorry to be a bit hostile, but i am in a bad mood..
any word on any new belly dates..
the last official thing i saw had them playing philly..
and then playing in hawaii 15 days later..
j0n
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:04:03 CST
The DCD concert film/documentary (?) _Toward the Within_ is scheduled
to begin at the Inwood Theater in Dallas, TX, as part of its midnight
movie series on the weekend of May 26 and 27. I'm not sure if it'll
be playing more than that one weekend (it more than likely will
be...all of the other movies in that series have played for at least
three weeks so far), but check the local papers for more info (_The
Observer_, _The Dallas Morning News_, etc.).
Curtis Tsui
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 15:43:11 -0700
>And yes, "Avalyn II" was left off because it's simply an instrumental
>version of "Avalyn I".
That's the second time this has been said ... I don't have the EP handy, but
as I recall it's actually a different recording, not just a different mix. I
couldn't imagine listening to the first without the second.
Jens Alfke ________ OpenDoc Geometer _______ [email protected]
Zachary Taylor was a Barosaurus and, at 89 feet,
was possibly our longest President ever.
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 15:52:23 -0700
Today's kids just weren't raised on The Classics...
>And pardon my ignorance, but where did the word _Pygmalion_ come from,
>anyway?
Eric E. Wittmershaus:
>Pygmalion is the name of an opera, I believe. I've been know to be wrong
>(it could be a play or a musical -- it's some stage production at any rate,
>and a classic at that.)
Which is basically correct (it's a play by George Bernard Shaw, which was made
into a musical called "My Fair Lady" by Rogers and Hammerstein) but the name
itself comes from a Roman myth told by Ovid: the sculptor Pygmalion hated
women but made a sculpture of a woman, named Galatea, that was so beautiful he
fell in love with it; after he prayed to Venus, the sculpture turned into a
real woman, whom he married. If you know the play or the musical, it's pretty
obvious why Shaw picked that name.
Jens Alfke ________ OpenDoc Geometer _______ [email protected]
Zachary Taylor was a Barosaurus and, at 89 feet,
was possibly our longest President ever.
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 18:09:20 +0000
is the Dif Juz lp/ep any good? i -really- love no motion.. was
wondeirng if anyone recommends their other material.
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:19:27 -0700
hey 4ad-ers and dreampoppers!
well this might be meaningless to some of you, but i know a lot
of ppl on this list are college students and i thought this might mean a
lot to them, including myself. so call the number and make some kind of
change, hoping that we'll still get financial aid next year!
laters!
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Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 19:43:50 -0400
About student aid,
I agree all us college students from less than wealthy backgrounds need to
stand upto Newt and the redneck congress if we are going to continue to
educate ourselves. It's damn foolish to cut back on our future to give tax
cuts to the wealthy. I don't want to flip burgers all my life!
Students wake up!!!!
J
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 19:20:19 -0400
> Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:02:16 -0600
> From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:46:58 -0700
In the video for "Lip" (I believe), on the 13 year itch video, (which
is combination song-video/documentary) Warren says His Name is Alive is
something from high school. The teacher was talking about Abraham Lincoln and
Warren passed out and when he woke up he had written hnia down. (or something
along those lines; i've only had time to watch the vid. once) Of course this
could all be, or is likely to be, completely made up, coming from Warren. This
is the video where the lady in Livonia (i presume) shows her pizza donuts, a
pizza made on a donut.
The EP _The Dirt Eaters_ came out before _Mouth by Mouth_. The US
version of _Home is in Your Head_ has TDE tacked on at the end (minus a sample
of Jack Niclson).
questions about most releases can be answered by eyesore-- thanks to larsi
netscape, mosaic, or lynx over to http://www.evo.org/eyesore.html
-n
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:46:41 -0700
The Observer & Eccentric Newspapers, Inc. August 20, 1990
His songs touch a realm of spirituality, but he contends there are
no religious undertones to his music.
"Every third person asks of us that," Defever said. "His Name Is
Alive, Is that a Christian band?" ...There's some people on the
business side who feel His Name Is Alive is a band band name for a
band."
But business is not what His Name Is Alive is about. Music comes
first and foremost. Fortunately, the people at 4AD feel the same.
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 20:15:04 -0700
To get on the ear-rational preorders list, write to [email protected]
with SUBSCRIBE PRE-ORDERS (i think that's it) on the subject line. Don't
mail [email protected].
Sorry if this is of little or no interest.
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Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 13:38:14 -0600 (MDT)
[snip snip snip butcher flay mutilate splice]
NIN-Further Down The Spiral LP/CD ILPM8041/MCD8041 $15.25/$14.00
UK release is advertised as having two tracks, "Ruiner" and "Eraser',
that will not be on the U.S. version. Will be in a digi-pack similar
to the "Fixed EP". Ten tracks in all, *Note: The U.S. version will be
released at the same time. On Island.
Scorn-Ellipsis 5x12"Box SCORNOOIT $45.00
Price as yet to be conrirmed as it is likely to be export banned.
Knowing that is a distinct possibility, I may not be able to get all
that you want, but I'll try. Remixes from their "Evanescence" album,
also with a Coil remix. On Earache.
Teenage Fanclub - Grand Prix LP/CD CRELP173UCD173 $14.25/$20.25
Brand new 13 track album steeped in pop culture and dripping with
melody. LP comes with a 7" featuring the demo versions of "Discolite"
and "I Gotta Know". On Creation.
Verve-On Your Own 7"/CDS HUT55/HUTCD55 $5.00/$9.25
2nd single from forthcoming album "A Northem Soul". CD-single
tracklisting is the title track plus "I See The Door", "Little Gem",
and "Dance On Your Bones". On Hut.
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 20:24:50 -0700
einexile))))
On Fri, 12 May 1995, shane wrote:
> I find all this to fit in the "repulsive garbage" category.
> Let's talk about MUSIC, hm?
Weren't we just a moment ago? What is this you're doing?
Obviously on a mailing list some of the discussion ought to and will be
about the nature of that list. Personally I find telling people to shut
up and change the subject more offensive that any of the subjects in
question. As seems to be the case with the other combatants, I don't
believe people should be made to read these threads and so have made an
effort to mark them as flames about individuals. Is that unfair? If it
were not of interest to anyone, the thread would die.
einexile
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 20:44:19 -0700
Speaking of the US releases for Livonia and Home Is in Your Head, are
they still in print? I have not seen them for a while. They are nice
packages, even if I object to the pairing of HIYH with the ep.
have been warned! Log out now! Did Chris Bigg in fact design the artwork
for Revelations? There is no design credit on the cd and I get the
distinct impression that the art was thrown together from rejected
concepts for previous releases.
And one more time, just in case: did Seefeel's _FractureTied_ (well,
that's how it's listed) ever appear in a plastic case or digipak? I have
heard reports of a version not released in a crummy cd-sleeve but never
seen such.
Recommend go see Crimson Tide. Hell of a flick.
einexile