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Subject: Seefeel Remixing Cocteau's Treasure LP
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:31:58 CST
From: Grant Schwarz (gks@MOD.DSTO.GOV.AU)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:14:00 EST
From: "Ellens, Harm" (HEllens@VCOMTELC.MS-MAIL.TELECOM.COM.AU)
Subject: Pygmalion
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 09:01:08 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (A.Dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: DCD WWW Update
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 02:29:24 -0600
From: Raven Zachary (raven@UNIX.NETS.COM)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 09:32:02 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: einexile vs (Matthias vs (eric vs einexile))
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 02:44:25 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: einexile vs (Matthias vs (eric vs einexile))
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 02:49:15 -0700
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: Re: THE Verve
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 02:57:41 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: not 4ad related but heck, it's the smiths!
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 06:07:22 -0400
From: Julie Estrada (SORTRADA@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: not 4ad related but heck, it's the smiths!
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 11:19:57 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: not 4ad related but heck, it's the smiths!
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 06:30:58 -0400
From: Julie Estrada (SORTRADA@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: Seefeel Remixing Cocteau's Treasure LP
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:32:19 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (A.Dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Seefeel Remixing Cocteau's Treasure LP
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 04:37:00 -0700
From: Jack B Huynh (jhuy@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: New narrative-song list on Mailbase
Date: 5/11/95 3:57PM
From: Donal Hanna (Donal.Hanna@newcastle.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: new Belly EP ltd. format
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:30:49 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: this mortal coil
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:40:22 +0100
From: j C j aubin (gec213@CENT1.LANCS.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: not 4ad related but heck, it's the smiths!
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:00:29 -0400
From: m i c h a e l (maxelson@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: this mortal coil
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:14:14 -0400
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: MBV
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 10:31:44 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@WALDORF.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: his name is alive
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:27:32 +0000
From: Dream Being (ahr@HIC.NET)
Subject: Re: this mortal coil
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:57:57 -0500
From: Terry Collins (ispy@OAK.NCC.UMN.EDU)
Subject: Re: THE Verve
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 11:26:39 -0700
From: Super 31 (super31@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: this mortal coil
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 04:41:37 +1000
From: Steppenwolf (dwilson@ST.NEPEAN.UWS.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: Reply to Slowdive EPs
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:13:29 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: cranes recommedations
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:12:13 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: a couple of things
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 04:52:11 +1000
From: Steppenwolf (dwilson@ST.NEPEAN.UWS.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: a couple of things
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:05:14 -0700
From: Brant Nelson (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: DCD WWW Site
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:26:13 -0400
From: Michael Dziedzic (Gadamer@AOL.COM)
Subject: list
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:28:12 -0600
From: SDUPONT@EAC.CC.AZ.US
Subject: Re: his name is alive
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 13:46:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: Re: new Belly EP ltd. format
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:37:13 -0400
From: Jon H Wichmann (jhwst9+@PITT.EDU)
Subject: DCD's _Toward..._ in Dallas, TX
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:04:03 CST
From: No Shadow (CTSUI@ACS.UNT.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 10 May 1995 to 11 May 1995
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 15:43:11 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: Pygmalion
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 15:52:23 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: Dif Juz
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 18:09:20 +0000
From: Dream Being (ahr@HIC.NET)
Subject: *ALERT! SAVE STUDENT AID!*
Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 14:19:00 EDT
From: "Research.Latino" (MCLRIMOD@msu.edu)
Subject: Re: Fw: AFSA meeting (fwd)
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 19:43:50 -0400
From: James Sanchez (JSANCHEZ@HSSCAM.MIS.SEMI.HARRIS.COM)
Subject: 4AD/Warner Bros. promo CD's/cassettes
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 01:48:58 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject:
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:51:24 -0800
From: "Heileson, Thom" (heilts1@MACGW.GHC.ORG)
Subject: Re: MUSIC & kieslowski
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 19:20:19 -0400
From: Mark Edgington (markedg@MORGAN.COM)
Subject: Re: his name is alive
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:46:58 -0700
From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: his name is alive
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:46:41 -0700
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: Grand ol' opre-orders
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 13:38:14 -0600 (MDT)
From: EAR/Rational Music (angst@xmission.com)
Subject: einexile vs (shane vs (einexile vs (Matthias vs (eric vs
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 20:24:50 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: hnia q? + bigg art cred
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 20:44:19 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Reply to hnia q? + bigg art cred
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 22:51:16 -0500
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: throwing muses
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 00:30:25 -0400
From: "Maura A. Smale" (mas5815@IS2.NYU.EDU)

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:31:58 CST
From: Grant Schwarz (gks@MOD.DSTO.GOV.AU)
Subject: Seefeel Remixing Cocteau's Treasure LP


Here's a interesting rumour, Seefeel may be remixing songs from the
Cocteau Twins Treasure album for a sort of re-release in the near
future. The new Cocteau Twins LP out later this year is sounding
something out of the Treasure era.

Also reports that Mark Red House Painters fired his band may prove to
be false. They might actually all be getting along and playing better
than ever. Has anybody who has seen them on the current live tour
confirm or not confirm this ?


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:14:00 EST
From: "Ellens, Harm" (HEllens@VCOMTELC.MS-MAIL.TELECOM.COM.AU)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs


As far as I know, that play was turned into the musical My Fair Lady. Also
Pygmalion is a mythical Roman, but I can not think of what he is actually
reknown for.

>Actually, Pygmalion is the title to a play by George Bernard Shaw (so you
>were close about the Opera bit).  He's one of them classic Irish

Harm Ellens
hellens@vcomtelc.telecom.com.au

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 09:01:08 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (A.Dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Pygmalion


isn't pygmalion what 'my fair lady' was based on?

--
(A.Dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)
just a boy playing possum...


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 02:29:24 -0600
From: Raven Zachary (raven@UNIX.NETS.COM)
Subject: DCD WWW Update


Greetings all!

I want to welcome Michael Dziedzic as the new Assistant Webmaster for the
Dead Can Dance WWW Site (http://www.nets.com/dcd.html).  Michael has done
a graphical overhaul to the web site, making your journey a far more
enjoyable one.

Stay tuned for more exciting changes to the web site in the near future,
as well.

I also want to personally thank all of the people who responded to the
help wanted announcement regarding the opening.  I really appreciate it.

Take care, and stop by for a visit...

-Raven Zachary

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 09:32:02 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs

              95 01:49:50 pm

Jeremy L Orr  wrote:
>
> And yes, "Avalyn II" was left off because it's simply an instrumental
> version of "Avalyn I".

A twice-as-long instrumental version of "Avalyn I", and therefore twice
as good.  That first EP is almost certainly the crowning glory of
Western civilisation.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 12/05/95
On my walkman this morning : Frank Zappa - Waka/Jawaka
Lay like the folds of a bright girdle furl'd.


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 02:44:25 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: einexile vs (Matthias vs (eric vs einexile))


On Wed, 10 May 1995, Matthias Walzner wrote:

[flameroo deleted]

> Both of you: Is this the style here or what?

> To einexile: Actually I got more information out of Erics` letters than from
> your daily insults....so I am quite sure whose presence is needed here!

I'm sorry if you feel at the receiving end of my insults. There are many
on this list who consider them to be valid opinion. Perhaps next time you
are insulted you ought to defend your honor.

> Maybe you should look out for a different mailing list or open up one, like:
> alt.misc.rude

Is this really necessary? Yes the 'style' here is a fight now and then,
which I consider, even at the level of Eric's silly response, to be a far
cry above your sanctimonious posturing.

> To Eric: Next time, just be more careful. You apologized and I guess that is
> just fine...pobably the last word has to be spoken by *k-j*.

As if such a random and thoughtless statement can be made acceptable by
the specific victim. Kelli can defend herself; I don't even know if Eric was
wrong or not. My beef with him was that he didn't care whether or not he
was wrong, but bred unnecessary distrust on this list, and suspicion
about an individual in naming that individual without doing any
investigating on his own.

The apology was for upsetting k-j, not for posting repulsive garbage to
this mailing list. It is obvious that Eric is not truly sorry, but just
red in the face. After all, he is angry that the offense is not summarily
forgiven.

Except that now you appear to have done so.


 e

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 02:49:15 -0700
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: Re: einexile vs (Matthias vs (eric vs einexile))


I find all this to fit in the "repulsive garbage" category.
Let's talk about MUSIC, hm?


delete

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 02:57:41 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: THE Verve


On Tue, 9 May 1995, Jeremy L Orr wrote:

> They're now known as The Verve, and I'm pretty sure that this change is
> worldwide, not just in America, although if anyone knows for a fact (i.e.
> not just spouting off) that the contrary is truly the case, I'd like to
> know.

This may qualify as just spouting off, so I'll pretend it's a question.
Wasn't _No Come Down_ a joint US/UK release? It has catalog numbers for
both Hut and Vernon Yard on it.

Also, the name change was reported in MM without reference to country, if
memory serves.

A pity their label didn't spend less on the big fancy digipak and more on
defending their ass in court. At least the new name they picked had a bit
thumb to it. The music press deserve some credit for not honoring these
bogus name changes.

> They were sued (?) by the dumbshits at Verve, a jazz label,
> because they were afraid that their customers would buy (The) Verve's
> albums thinking they were Verve label releases; apparently, they have
> about as much respect their customers as I do.

Hahahahahahahahahaha...this has needed to be said for the longest time.

> (For future reference,
> see Kid in the Hall Bruce McCullough's anti-jazz skit

How? Can't get enough anti-jazz skits around here...


 einexile, waiting for siouxsie to sue neil...

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 06:07:22 -0400
From: Julie Estrada (SORTRADA@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: not 4ad related but heck, it's the smiths!


   i have been looking for smiths stuff on the net, and i
cannot find any! does anyone know if there is a smiths web or
mailing list or ANYTHING???
(or Morrissey, of course)


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 11:19:57 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: not 4ad related but heck, it's the smiths!

              95 06:07:22 am

Julie Estrada  wrote:
>
> i have been looking for smiths stuff on the net, and i
> cannot find any! does anyone know if there is a smiths web or
> mailing list or ANYTHING???

Try smiths-request@langmuir.berkeley.edu, but be warned:

1. The PJ Harvey list at pjharvey-request@langmuir.berkeley.edu recently
went through a disastrous phase where noone could subscribe or
unsubscribe (due to the software having been removed), and eventually
the list was abolished and moved elsewhere.  I think both lists had the
same owner.

2. Be prepared for huge vegetarian flamewars and intolerance of any
discussion of bands other than the Smiths and Morrissey's sexuality.

I dropped both lists because the ratio of interesting postings to
juvenile squabbling became microscopically low.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 12/05/95
On my walkman this morning : Frank Zappa - Waka/Jawaka
Lay like the folds of a bright girdle furl'd.

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 06:30:58 -0400
From: Julie Estrada (SORTRADA@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: not 4ad related but heck, it's the smiths!


  Thanks for the info...I tried the address you gave me and it
doesn't exist.
Oh well...I'll keep searching. I just looooove The Smiths!!!


Sortrada@Delphi.Com


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:32:19 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (A.Dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Seefeel Remixing Cocteau's Treasure LP


um, if i remember rightly, a member of seefeel did the live mixing for
the recent cocteau's tv appearance on the white room on channel 4 but
they were both newish songs (although don't ask me what they were)

--
(A.Dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)
just a boy playing possum...

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 04:37:00 -0700
From: Jack B Huynh (jhuy@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Seefeel Remixing Cocteau's Treasure LP


Mark Clifford is the name of the gentlemen you are referring to I
believe. And Robin tells me that those songs are still untitled when they
did the tv appearance and expect them to appear on an ep this year...
should be interesting....

btw, anyone have a discography of Moose handy? I've been digging their
stuff lately but don't know what I am missing... thanks...


-jack huynh
-jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu


On Fri, 12 May 1995, Andrew Dean wrote:

> um, if i remember rightly, a member of seefeel did the live mixing for
> the recent cocteau's tv appearance on the white room on channel 4 but
> they were both newish songs (although don't ask me what they were)
>
> --
> (A.Dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)
> just a boy playing possum...
>


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 09:03:45 EDT
From: Jeffrey_Burrows@TJHOUSE.CCMAIL.COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject: New narrative-song list on Mailbase


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Date: 5/11/95 3:57PM
Subject: New narrative-song list on Mailbase

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Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:30:49 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: new Belly EP ltd. format


May 11 Philip Locke wrote about upcoming Belly releases:

>The new UK release is a 3 (yes _three_) part single for "Seal My Fate."
>(  ) understanding is that the first, due this week, contains "Seal My Fate"
>plus 3 non-album tracks.  The second, due next week, contains "Seal My Fate"
>(live) plus 3 live tracks.  The third, due the following week, contains "Seal
>My Fate" (acoustic) plus 3 acoustic tracks.  There will be an _extremely_
>limited version containing all 3 discs in a single package.

I asked Cliff af 4AD about the limited version, and he answered:

>Unconfirmed as yet, but it won't be 3 CD singles, but it will be v.
collectable.
>It is only being released in the UK and won't be available through export and
>probably not through mail order either. Released in early July



Frank


++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:40:22 +0100
From: j C j aubin (gec213@CENT1.LANCS.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: this mortal coil


would anyone happen to know how impossible it would be to find the
Sixteen Days-Gathering Dust EP?  I would kill for a copy.

interesting fact:  Allison Limerick (of "Drugs" and "Alone" TMC songs)
is coming to Lancaster University to perform some of her dance music.


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:00:29 -0400
From: m i c h a e l (maxelson@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: not 4ad related but heck, it's the smiths!


that smiths list is kind of wierd
they do talk alot about anyting but the smiths and morrissey
i have been trying to get off it and i cannot so be careful

mi ch a el


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:14:14 -0400
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: this mortal coil


>>would anyone happen to know how impossible it would be to find the
Sixteen Days-Gathering Dust EP?  I would kill for a copy.<<

It's not hard to find.  I got a brand new copy for $7 at Newbury Comics
here in Boston. You can order it via 4AD Mail Order, if I'm not mistaken.


Mike

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 10:31:44 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@WALDORF.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: MBV


> >  My Bloody Valentine , The new record by ---- $50 (Australian)

>   Well, I hope this helps.  Somebody over on the MBV list stated
> this was a bootleg cd of a live performance in Osaka Japan that came out

No, I think that one's "soon".

> shortly after "Loveless" was released.  I also heard it was a pre-Bilinda
> album that came out that is only worth it for the true collectors.

Sounds more like it...

                            n9344881@cc.wwu.edu
  "He who clearly apprehends the scheme of existence does not rejoice over
 life, nor repine at death; for he knows that external limits are not final."


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:27:32 +0000
From: Dream Being (ahr@HIC.NET)
Subject: his name is alive


was just wondering.. his name is alive - is this a christ reference?
i'm also reminded of lyrics 'you aint got god in the city, and i'm so
tired of this'

anyway..

btw, what was the name of the hnia single just before mouth by mouth,
put out by 4ad,  was it dirt eaters? hmm..

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:57:57 -0500
From: Terry Collins (ispy@OAK.NCC.UMN.EDU)
Subject: Re: this mortal coil

              an Ear" at May 12, 95 12:14:14 pm

>
> >>would anyone happen to know how impossible it would be to find the
> Sixteen Days-Gathering Dust EP?  I would kill for a copy.<<
>
> It's not hard to find.  I got a brand new copy for $7 at Newbury Comics
> here in Boston. You can order it via 4AD Mail Order, if I'm not mistaken.
>
Next question: what are the details on 4AD Mail Order?

  --iSpy--
>

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 11:26:39 -0700
From: Super 31 (super31@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: THE Verve


>> They were sued (?) by the dumbshits at Verve, a jazz label,
>> because they were afraid that their customers would buy (The) Verve's
>> albums thinking they were Verve label releases

>Hahahahahahahahahaha... this has needed to be said for the longest time.


Actually, Verve records has been around for far longer than The Verve
and represent considerably more talent... true The Verve has done some
cool music, but jazz is a far superior form of music than any alternative
three-chord song. Just my opinion. Besides, the new (The) Verve is
pretty horrible.

Kelly

Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 04:41:37 +1000
From: Steppenwolf (dwilson@ST.NEPEAN.UWS.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: this mortal coil


On Fri, 12 May 1995, Terry Collins wrote:

> >
> > >>would anyone happen to know how impossible it would be to find the
> > Sixteen Days-Gathering Dust EP?  I would kill for a copy.<<
> >
> > It's not hard to find.  I got a brand new copy for $7 at Newbury Comics
> > here in Boston. You can order it via 4AD Mail Order, if I'm not mistaken.
> >
> Next question: what are the details on 4AD Mail Order?
>
>   --iSpy--
> >
>

4ad
P.O. Box 3813
London  SW18 1XE
U.K.

The catalogue has TMC-'Song to the Siren/Sixteen Days,Gathering Dust'
    12", 3 tracks, BAD 310

Hope this helps.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 " Not only am I not learning anything,
     but I'm forgetting stuff I used to know!" -- The Simpsons


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:13:29 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Reply to Slowdive EPs


You wrote:
>
>>>And pardon my ignorance, but where did the word _Pygmalion_ come
from,
>>>anyway?
>>
>
>>it's from a greek myth, in which Pygmalion is a sculpture who creates
>>the most beautiful statue of his ideal woman... he falls in love with
>>it, has sex with it, etc. etc. and then one day   it comes
>>alive!!!! Your typical Greek love myth.
>
>But even before the Greeks, it was a George Bernard Shaw play.
>
>
opps!!! sorry.

>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:12:13 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: cranes recommedations


You wrote:
>
>-- [ From: Norman Levenstein * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
>
>a while back, i heard 'wings of joy.' although i liked the overall
>sound and texture, i was upset with the lack of melody. i was
wondering
>if subsequent releases solved this problem. any recommendations would
>be much appreciated.

you must check out "forever"

                    -robert.

Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 04:52:11 +1000
From: Steppenwolf (dwilson@ST.NEPEAN.UWS.EDU.AU)
Subject: a couple of things


A little while ago I mentioned how the Throwing Muses were guest
programmers on an australian video show, is anyone interested in what
they played if so then I'll type it in.

What can anybody tell me about the 'Lilliput' promo, is this worth getting?

Also what about a CD of Cocteau Twins b-sides,'forgotten 4ad tracks' does
anyone know anything about this one?

Thanks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 " Not only am I not learning anything,
     but I'm forgetting stuff I used to know!" -- The Simpsons


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:05:14 -0700
From: Brant Nelson (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: a couple of things


> What can anybody tell me about the 'Lilliput' promo, is this worth getting?
If you've got about $100 to spare, yes. Big fancy book, two CDs.

> Also what about a CD of Cocteau Twins b-sides,'forgotten 4ad tracks' does
> anyone know anything about this one?
Hasn't this been answered about half a dozen times already?
It's a bootleg of the box set. If you already have the box,
you don't need this.

brant

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:26:13 -0400
From: Michael Dziedzic (Gadamer@AOL.COM)
Subject: DCD WWW Site

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Links to other DCD-related sites on the WWW
Sound samples of all their music
Tour dates (when applicable)
Updates on their upcoming albums
Lyrics
& a new interface to boot...

Just aim your web browser of choice to

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:28:12 -0600
From: SDUPONT@EAC.CC.AZ.US
Subject: list


whom have i reached?


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 13:46:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: Re: his name is alive


>was just wondering.. his name is alive - is this a christ reference?
>i'm also reminded of lyrics 'you aint got god in the city, and i'm so
>tired of this'

          Warren told me that the only confirmed "Christian"
          in the group was Tray and he hasn't been in on
          the HNIA project from the beginning so go figger...
          ...as far as the lyrics are concerned you never know
          where they come from...tons of them are coppied from
          other poets as *k-j* has pointed out in the past so
          it is really hit and miss...everything with Warren is
          either a big lie or a big secret...hmmmmmmmm...whatever
          the message intended, they are a great group and
          being a Christian myself I love the religious conotations...

                                     -Jacob Paul Leonard

          ...I was a girl too...

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:37:13 -0400
From: Jon H Wichmann (jhwst9+@PITT.EDU)
Subject: Re: new Belly EP ltd. format


On Fri, 12 May 1995, Frank Brinkhuis wrote:
>
> >The new UK release is a 3 (yes _three_) part single for "Seal My Fate."
> >(  ) understanding is that the first, due this week, contains "Seal My Fate"
> >plus 3 non-album tracks.  The second, due next week, contains "Seal My Fate"
> >(live) plus 3 live tracks.  The third, due the following week, contains "Seal
> >My Fate" (acoustic) plus 3 acoustic tracks.  There will be an _extremely_
> >limited version containing all 3 discs in a single package.
>
> I asked Cliff af 4AD about the limited version, and he answered:
>
> >Unconfirmed as yet, but it won't be 3 CD singles, but it will be v.
> collectable.
> >It is only being released in the UK and won't be available through export and
> >probably not through mail order either. Released in early July
>
is it me..or does the US get the short end of the stick where
belly singles are concerned..

i don't mind paying the extra cash for the uk singles..

but whats with releasing a different one for the us and the uk..
and then making the uk single in 3 parts
and making the compilation of all 3 uk singles
nearly impossible to get outside of the UK?

sorry to be a bit hostile, but i am in a bad mood..

any word on any new belly dates..
the last official thing i saw had them playing philly..
and then playing in hawaii 15 days later..

j0n

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:04:03 CST
From: No Shadow (CTSUI@ACS.UNT.EDU)
Subject: DCD's _Toward..._ in Dallas, TX


The DCD concert film/documentary (?) _Toward the Within_ is scheduled
to begin at the Inwood Theater in Dallas, TX, as part of its midnight
movie series on the weekend of May 26 and 27.  I'm not sure if it'll
be playing more than that one weekend (it more than likely will
be...all of the other movies in that series have played for at least
three weeks so far), but check the local papers for more info (_The
Observer_, _The Dallas Morning News_, etc.).

Curtis Tsui
ctsui@acs.unt.edu

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 15:43:11 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 10 May 1995 to 11 May 1995


>And yes, "Avalyn II" was left off because it's simply an instrumental
>version of "Avalyn I".

That's the second time this has been said ... I don't have the EP handy, but
as I recall it's actually a different recording, not just a different mix. I
couldn't imagine listening to the first without the second.

Jens Alfke ________ OpenDoc Geometer _______ jens_alfke@powertalk.apple.com

              Zachary Taylor was a Barosaurus and, at 89 feet,
                  was possibly our longest President ever.

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 15:52:23 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: Pygmalion


Today's kids just weren't raised on The Classics...

>And pardon my ignorance, but where did the word _Pygmalion_ come from,
>anyway?

Eric E. Wittmershaus:
>Pygmalion is the name of an opera, I believe.  I've been know to be wrong
>(it could be a play or a musical -- it's some stage production at any rate,
>and a classic at that.)

Which is basically correct (it's a play by George Bernard Shaw, which was made
into a musical called "My Fair Lady" by Rogers and Hammerstein) but the name
itself comes from a Roman myth told by Ovid: the sculptor Pygmalion hated
women but made a sculpture of a woman, named Galatea, that was so beautiful he
fell in love with it; after he prayed to Venus, the sculpture turned into a
real woman, whom he married. If you know the play or the musical, it's pretty
obvious why Shaw picked that name.

Jens Alfke ________ OpenDoc Geometer _______ jens_alfke@powertalk.apple.com

              Zachary Taylor was a Barosaurus and, at 89 feet,
                  was possibly our longest President ever.


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 18:09:20 +0000
From: Dream Being (ahr@HIC.NET)
Subject: Dif Juz


is the Dif Juz lp/ep any good?  i -really- love no motion.. was
wondeirng if anyone recommends their other material.

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:19:27 -0700
From: "lushmuse...i drank too much tea, i wrote my letters in kanji
Subject: Fw: AFSA meeting (fwd)


hey 4ad-ers and dreampoppers!

        well this might be meaningless to some of you, but i know a lot
of ppl on this list are college students and i thought this might mean a
lot to them, including myself.  so call the number and make some kind of
change, hoping that we'll still get financial aid next year!

laters!

------------ Forwarded Message begins here ------------
From: "Research.Latino" (MCLRIMOD@msu.edu)

Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 14:19:00 EDT
Subject: *ALERT! SAVE STUDENT AID!*


TO MCLR SUBSCRIBERS:

The Alliance to Save Student Aid has requested that we alert MCLR
subscribers to the potential cuts to student aid.  The following is a
message we have been asked to post.


         CALL CONGRESS TODAY TO STOP CUTS TO STUDENT AID!

                 THE CALL IS FREE (UNTIL MAY 15TH)

                         1-800-574-4AID


Congress is considering cutting student loans, work study and grants that
will cost American families $20 billion over the next five years.

Opponents of student aid are trivializing the issue -- saying students can
handle higher costs if they just cut back on the number of SUPER BIG GULPS
they drink.

                 TELL CONGRESS TO GET SERIOUS.
                 _____________________________

THE DEBATE IS NOT ABOUT SOFT DRINKS.  IT'S ABOUT OUR FUTURE.

CALL THE SAVE STUDENT AID HOTLINE TO TALK DIRECTLY TO CONGRESS.

punch in your zip code and your call will be forwarded  directly to your
congressional representative FREE OF CHARGE!

PLEASE FORWARD TO OTHER LISTS _ HELP GET THE WORD OUT!

------------ Forwarded Message ends here ------------


Ll!rate pobre, y no te llores s!lo. (Bewail your poverty, and not alone.)

Juan Francisco Lara, Ph.D.                   714.824.6362
University of CA -160 ADM                    714.824.8219 FAX
Irvine, CA 92717-2505                        JFLARA@UCI.EDU

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Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 19:43:50 -0400
From: James Sanchez (JSANCHEZ@HSSCAM.MIS.SEMI.HARRIS.COM)
Subject: Re: Fw: AFSA meeting (fwd)


About student aid,
I agree all us college students from less than wealthy backgrounds need to
stand upto Newt and the redneck congress if we are going to continue to
educate ourselves. It's damn foolish to cut back on our future to give tax
cuts to the wealthy. I don't want to flip burgers all my life!

                                    Students wake up!!!!
                                            J

Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 01:48:58 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: 4AD/Warner Bros. promo CD's/cassettes


Here it is, the list of all US 4AD 'PRO-CD' promo CD's & promo cassettes=20
issued via Warner Bros. since 1992. All? I don't know. I could have missed=
=20
one or two.

Bands and artists that are NOT part of 4AD's label-deal with Warner Bros.,=
=20
but have/had separate deals with Warner Bros. or other labels (Belly, Frank=
=20
Black, The Breeders, Kristin Hersh, Lush, Pixies, Throwing Muses, Ultra=20
Vivid Scene) are not featured here, but will appear in a second list, that=
=20
I'll try to make some time later (maybe next month).

Please note that 'advance copy' or 'promo copy' CD's that are merely the=20
full albums with slightly adapted (or no) artwork, are not included.=20


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

HEIDI BERRY 'The Moon And The Sun' (PRO-CD-6321) 1993
1. The Moon And The Sun (Edit)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

HEIDI BERRY 'Heidi Berry' (45301) 1993
Full album 'Advance Compact Disc' in digipak. Different label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

HEIDI BERRY 'Distant Thunder' (PRO-CD 6544) 1993
1. Distant Thunder (Album Version)
2. Zither Song (Non-Album Track)
3. You Upset The Grace Of Living When You Lie (Non-Album Track)
4. Gloria (From The UK album 'Love')
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

THE BIRTHDAY PARTY 'Selections From The Forthcoming Album Hits' (no #) 1992
1. Nick The Stripper
2. Release Of The Bats (sic)
3. Sonny's Burning
4. Deep In The Woods
5. Jennifer's Veil
Advance promo sampler. Same both sides. 4AD generic insert.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

DEAD CAN DANCE 'Into The Labyrinth' (45384) 1993
Full album 'Advance Compact Disc', in digipak. Different label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

DEAD CAN DANCE 'The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove' (PRO-CD 6520) 1993
1. The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove (Edit)
2. The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove (Album Version)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

DEAD CAN DANCE 'The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove' (PRO-CD 6523) 1993
1. The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove (Edit)
2. The Wind That Shakes The Barley (Album Version)
3. The Spider's Strategem (Album Version)
4. The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove (Album Version)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

DEAD CAN DANCE 'The Carnival Is Over' (PRO-CD 6700) 1993
1. The Carnival Is Over (Edit)
2. The Carnival Is Over (Album Version)
Plain WB design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

DEAD CAN DANCE 'Dead Can Dance' (PRO-CD 6805) 1994
1. De Profundis=20
2. The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove
3. Persephone
4. Song Of The Sybil
5. The Host Of Seraphim
6. The Carnival Is Over
7. Ariadne
8. Severance
9. The Arrival And The Reunion
10. Yulunga
11. Spirit
12. Ocean
13. The Protagonist
Compilation, in cardboard sleeve, with tracks from all six DCD albums,=20
released to coincide with debut US-release of the first five DCD albums,=20
February-March 1994. Sleeve features 'saldek' picture from the 'Into The=20
Labyrinth' CD-booklet.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

DEAD CAN DANCE 'Dead Can Dance' (PRO-CD 6822) 1994
5xCD boxset including regular US copies 'Dead Can Dance',  'Spleen And=20
Ideal', 'Within The Realm Of A Dying Sun' ,  The Serpents Egg' and  'Aion'.
Issued to coincide with the debut US-release of the first five DCD albums.
cardboard box features black & white pictures of the album sleeves, =E0 la=
 the=20
cover of the 4AD Mail Order catalogue.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

DEAD CAN DANCE 'Toward The Within' (45769) 1994
Full album 'Advance Compact Disc', in digipak. Different label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

DEAD CAN DANCE 'American Dreaming' (PRO-CD 7213) 1994
1. American Dreaming (Album Version)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Green-grey WARNERS label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

LISA GERMANO 'Happiness' (45593) 1994
Full album 'Advance Compact Disc' in cardboard sleeve. Different design to=
=20
regular CD.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

LISA GERMANO 'Puppet' (PRO-CD 6848) 1994
1. Puppet (Radio Edit)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Purple 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

LISA GERMANO 'Stars' (PRO-CD 7184) 1994
1. Stars (Album Version)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Dark blue picture label with=20
coloured stars.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

LISA GERMANO 'Geek The Girl' (PRO-CD 7186-A) 1994
Full album promo. Back sleeve & art work, different to regular CD.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

LISA GERMANO 'Cry Wolf' (PRO-CD 7347) 1995
1. Cry Wolf (Edit)
2. The Mirror Is Gone
3. Cancer Of Everything (Remix)
4. Sexy Litle Princess (Remix)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. ?? label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

HIS NAME IS ALIVE 'In Every Ford' (PRO-CD 6069) 1993
1. In Every Ford
2. Lip
3. Drink, Dress, And Ink
4. Can't Go Wrong Without You
5. The Dirt Eaters (UK Version)
Sampler for 'Mouth By Mouth'. The version of 'The Dirt Eaters' features "And=
=20
all the dog bones too" Jack Nicholson sample, that is not on the regular US=
=20
version of the album. 4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange=20
300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

PALE SAINTS 'Throwing Back The Apple' (PRO-CD 5467) 1992
1. Throwing Back The Apple (Album Version)
Back sleeve and CD label resemble glass etching front cover design of 'In=20
Ribbons' No insert.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

PALE SAINTS 'Blue Flower' (PRO-CD 5546) 1992
1. Blue Flower (Edit)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Unique flower label.=20


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

PALE SAINTS 'Fine Friend' (PRO-CD 7289) 1994
1. Fine Friend (Album Version)
2. One Blue Hill (Live From KCRW 89.9 FM)
3. Marimba (Non-Album Track)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

PALE SAINTS 'Henry' (PRO-CD 7131) 1994
1. Henry (Album Version)
2. One Blue Hill (Album Version)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

PALE SAINTS 'Angel (Will You Be Me)' (PRO-CD 7140) 1994
1. Angel (Will You Be Me) (Album Version)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

RED HOUSE PAINTERS 'Mistress' (PRO-CD 6108) 1993
1. Mistress (Remix)
2. Grace Cathedral Park (Album Version)
3. Strawberry Hill (Album Version)
4. Mistress (Piano Version)
4AD custom-design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

RED HOUSE PAINTERS/HIS NAME IS ALIVE 'Ninety-Three' (no #) 1993
1. RHP - Grace Cathedrall
2. RHP - Misstress
3. RHP - Strawberry Hill
4. HNIA - In Every Ford
5. HNIA - Drink, Dress, And Ink
6. HNIA - Can't Go Wrong Without You
7. HNIA - The Dirt Eaters (UK Version)
'Summer 1993'  cassette sampler, given free upon request. Sleeve designed by=
=20
v23 and printed in UK.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

RED HOUSE PAINTERS 'I Am A Rock' (PRO-CD 6498) 1993
1. I Am A Rock (Edit)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

RED HOUSE PAINTERS '4 Tracks From Ocean Beach' (no #) 1995
1. San Geronimo
2. ??
3. Summer Dress
4. Cabezon
Cassette sampler. Generic WARNER BROS. orange insert.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

RED HOUSE PAINTERS 'Summer Dress' (PRO-CD 7474) 1995
1. Summer Dress (Album Version)
2. San Geronimo (Edit)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 5oo/3oo label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

SPIREA X 'Speed Reaction' (PRO-CD 5547) 1992
1. Speed Reaction (Album Version)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Plain WARNER BROS. label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

SPIREA X/MICHAEL BROOK 'Selections From Fireblade Skies & Cobalt Blue' (no=
=20
#) 1992
1. SPIREA X - Speed Reaction
2. SPIREA X - Nothing Happened Yesterday
3. SPIREA X - Confusion In My Soul
4. SPIREA X - Fire And Light
5. MICHAEL BROOK - Breakdown
6. MICHAEL BROOK - Shona Bridge
7. MICHAEL BROOK - Hawaii
8. MICHAEL BROOK - Andean
Advance promo sampler. 4AD generic insert.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

SWALLOW/RED HOUSE PAINTERS '92' (no #) 1992
1. SWALLOW - Lovesleep
2. SWALLOW - Tastes Like Honey
3. SWALLOW - Sugar Your Mind
4. RED HOUSE PAINTERS - Michael
5. RED HOUSE PAINTERS - Medicine Bottle
Cassette sampler given away at CMJ showcase, November 1992. Insert design=20
resembles '...And Dog Bones Too' artwork.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

THIS MORTAL COIL 'This Mortal Coil' (PRO-CD 5876) 1993
1. Song To The Siren
2. You And Your Sister
3. Come Here My Love
4. Morning Glory
5. Fyt
6. Fond Affections
7. I Come And Stand At Every Door
8. With Tomorrow
9. Holocaust
10. The Jeweler
11. Late Night
12. Acid, Bitter And Sweet
Sampler, in digipak, for the limited edition 4xCD boxset (45135-2).
Front cover features picture that was used in the booklet that came with the=
=20
4xCD boxset (page 24).


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

THIS MORTAL COIL/VARIOUS '5 Selected Originals' (PRO-CD 6333)
1. TIM BUCKLEY - Song To The Siren
2. RAIN PARADE - Carolyn's Song
3. BIG STAR - Kangaroo=20
4. ROY HARPER - Another Day
5. CHRIS BELL - You And Your Sister
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

UNREST 'Make Out Club'  (PRO-CD 6435) 1993
1. Make Out Club (Remix)
Plain REPRISE back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

UNREST 'Cath Carroll' (PRO-CD 6787) 1993
1. Cath Carroll (Radio Edit)
2. Cath Carroll (Acoustic Version)
3. So Sick (Acoustic Version)
4. Where Are All Those Puerto Rican Boys? (Non-Album Track)
5. Hydro (Non-Album Track)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

UNREST 'Perfect Teeth' (2-45401-A) 1993
Full album promo CD. Back sleeve. No insert. Sticker on fromt of jewel case,=
=20
with picture &: 'For Earth People Only: 12 Cents Off'.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

THE WOLFGANG PRESS 'A Girl Like You' (PRO-CD 5415) 1992
1. A Girl Like You (Album Version)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

THE WOLFGANG PRESS 'Mama Told Me Not To Come' (PRO-CD 5753) 1992
1. Mama Told Me Not To Come (7" Mix)
2. Mama Told Me Not To Come (All Night Up)
3. Mama Told Me Not To Come (Go Back)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

THE WOLFGANG PRESS 'Going South' (PRO-CD 7174) 1995
1. Going South (Single Version)
2. Going South (Album Version)
3. Going South (@440 Mix)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Yellow & red TWP label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

THE WOLFGANG PRESS 'Christianity' (PRO-CD 7468) 1995
1. Christianity (Album Version)
2. Christianity (Wicked Man Remix)
3. Love Will Surface
4. Christianity (Instrumental)
4AD generic design back sleeve. No insert. Purple 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

THE WOLFGANG PRESS 'Going South' (PRO-CD 7497-R) 1995
1. Going South (Album Version)
White WARNER back sleeve. Orange 5oo/3oo label.

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

VARIOUS 'Mai Pen Rai' (PRO-CD 6055) 1993
1. BELLY - Feed The Tree
2. ULTRA VIVID SCENE - Blood And Thunder
3. FRANK BLACK - Los Angeles
4. HEIDI BERRY - The Moon And The Sun
5. RED HOUSE PAINTERS - Rollercoaster
6. DEAD CAN DANCE - The Carnival Is Over
7. HIS NAME IS ALIVE - In Every Ford
8. UNREST -Teenage Suicide
9. UNDERGROUND LOVERS - Promenade
10. THIS MORTAL COIL - You And Your Sister
11. THE THE - Another Boy Drowning
12. DANCE CHAPTER - Anonimity (uncredted/hidden track))
'Spring 1993' retail sampler in egg-shaped carboard folder, in cardboard=20
slipcase, designed and printed at Independent Project (8 different colour=20
combinations).=20


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

VARIOUS 'No Balls' (PRO-CD 7300) 1995
1. RED HOUSE PAINTERS - Summer Dress
2. THE WOLFGANG PRESS - People Say
3. LISA GERMANO - Cry Wolf
4. PALE SAINTS - One Blue Hill
5. KENDRA SMITH - Bold Marauder
6. AIR MIAMI - Airplane Rider
7. HEIDI BERRY - The Mountain
8. DAD CAN DANCE - Rakim
Promo/freebie 'current and forthcoming albums' sampler in cardboard sleeve=
=20
(same design as 4AD 1994 X-Mas card). Given away at 'Urban Outfitters' and=
=20
sent to subscribers of 'Option' magazine (with # 61, Mar/Apr 1995).


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20


Frank

Thanks to:
Ralf (100563.2165@compuserve.com),
Matthias (nwm17@rzserv2.fh-lueneburg.de),
Max (TMParade@AOL.COM),
Josh (josh@asu.edu),
Andrew (G.S.Walker@durham.ac.uk),
Mike (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM),
Mark (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU),
Phil (plbear@AOL.COM).

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brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:51:24 -0800
From: "Heileson, Thom" (heilts1@MACGW.GHC.ORG) > i still call verve, verve and not the verve...i think with that pesky >article tacked on it loses something...like at that farce lollapalooza, yes >i went strictly for verve...ok geo clinton too...but i felt >more comfortable screaming "verve fucking rules...no come down...ahhhhh" >as opposed to an added "the" to lose its romantic flavorin...anyway >i must defend verve records because i do love jazz, i also love that kids inthe >e hall sketch.... WHAT Kids In the Hall sketch? Me so curious. Someone pls. describe... >> I have the last two albums by >> the Golden Palominos. That is all I have by them. I quite enjoy their style >> of music. Someone told me that The Golden Palominos have been around for a >> while. Does anyone know what their earlier material sound like? > >They are around quite some time right now. It's a project by Anton Fier >(producer, drummer) with changing cast. BTW, Anton is the drummer on David Letterman... + --- Thom S. Heileson + +- oR [antiAxiomaticism unlimited] + - phASER@cyberspace.com heilts1@macgw.ghc.org "I'll give you an example, typically. It's less complicated than it simply should be." - Wire

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 19:20:19 -0400
From: Mark Edgington (markedg@MORGAN.COM)
Subject: Re: MUSIC & kieslowski


> Date:    Mon, 8 May 1995 15:02:16 -0600
> From:    BIGstirringofbirdsEYES 
> Subject: MUSIC & kieslowski
>
> okay folks....here's the story.
>
> each of the soundtracks to the trois coleurs films were composed by
> zbigniew preisner and contain a few pieces from composer van den budenmeyer.
>
Not quite the whole story...  I saw "Red" at New York Film Festival, and
Kieslowski was there talking about his work with Zbigniew Preisner. He said
that Van Den Budenmeyer is actually Preisner, that they just made up the
pseudonym. Since then, some music encyclopedia in England has continued
harassing Kieslowski to give them some biographical information on Van Den
Budenmeyer so they can include it in their encyclopedia. KK tried to tell them
that the composer was a fiction, but they kept sending him letters. Finally, he
and Preisner made up a biography for Van Den Budenmeyer, and that seemed to
satisfy them.

- ME (film guy on a music list)

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:46:58 -0700
From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: his name is alive


        In the video for "Lip" (I believe), on the 13 year itch video, (which
is combination song-video/documentary) Warren says His Name is Alive is
something from high school. The teacher was talking about Abraham Lincoln and
Warren passed out and when he woke up he had written hnia down. (or something
along those lines; i've only had time to watch the vid. once) Of course this
could all be, or is likely to be, completely made up, coming from Warren. This
is the video where the lady in Livonia (i presume) shows her pizza donuts, a
pizza made on a donut.
        The EP _The Dirt Eaters_ came out before _Mouth by Mouth_. The US
version of _Home is in Your Head_ has TDE tacked on at the end (minus a sample
of Jack Niclson).
questions about most releases can be answered by eyesore-- thanks to larsi
netscape, mosaic, or lynx over to http://www.evo.org/eyesore.html

-n

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:46:41 -0700
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: Re: his name is alive


The Observer & Eccentric Newspapers, Inc. August 20, 1990


  His songs touch a realm of spirituality, but he contends there are
no religious undertones to his music.
  "Every third person asks of us that," Defever said. "His Name Is
Alive, Is that a Christian band?" ...There's some people on the
business side who feel His Name Is Alive is a band band name for a
band."
  But business is not what His Name Is Alive is about. Music comes
first and foremost. Fortunately, the people at 4AD feel the same.


Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 20:15:04 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: a few semithislisty new thingies


To get on the ear-rational preorders list, write to angst@xmission.com
with SUBSCRIBE PRE-ORDERS (i think that's it) on the subject line. Don't
mail er-list@xmission.xmission.com.

Sorry if this is of little or no interest.

---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 13:38:14 -0600 (MDT)
From: EAR/Rational Music (angst@xmission.com)
Subject: Grand ol' opre-orders


[snip snip snip butcher flay mutilate splice]

NIN-Further Down The Spiral LP/CD ILPM8041/MCD8041 $15.25/$14.00
UK release is advertised as having two tracks, "Ruiner" and "Eraser',
that will not be on the U.S.  version.  Will be in a digi-pack similar
to the "Fixed EP". Ten tracks in all, *Note: The U.S. version will be
released at the same time. On Island.

Scorn-Ellipsis 5x12"Box SCORNOOIT $45.00
Price as yet to be conrirmed as it is likely to be export banned.
Knowing that is a distinct possibility, I may not be able to get all
that you want, but I'll try. Remixes from their "Evanescence" album,
also with a Coil remix. On Earache.

Teenage Fanclub - Grand Prix LP/CD CRELP173UCD173 $14.25/$20.25
Brand new 13 track album steeped in pop culture and dripping with
melody. LP comes with a 7" featuring the demo versions of "Discolite"
and "I Gotta Know". On Creation.

Verve-On Your Own 7"/CDS HUT55/HUTCD55 $5.00/$9.25
2nd single from forthcoming album "A Northem Soul".  CD-single
tracklisting is the title track plus "I See The Door", "Little Gem",
and "Dance On Your Bones". On Hut.

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 20:24:50 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: einexile vs (shane vs (einexile vs (Matthias vs (eric vs

              einexile))))

On Fri, 12 May 1995, shane wrote:

> I find all this to fit in the "repulsive garbage" category.
> Let's talk about MUSIC, hm?

Weren't we just a moment ago? What is this you're doing?

Obviously on a mailing list some of the discussion ought to and will be
about the nature of that list. Personally I find telling people to shut
up and change the subject more offensive that any of the subjects in
question. As seems to be the case with the other combatants, I don't
believe people should be made to read these threads and so have made an
effort to mark them as flames about individuals. Is that unfair? If it
were not of interest to anyone, the thread would die.

 einexile

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 20:44:19 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: hnia q? + bigg art cred


Speaking of the US releases for Livonia and Home Is in Your Head, are
they still in print? I have not seen them for a while. They are nice
packages, even if I object to the pairing of HIYH with the ep.

have been warned! Log out now! Did Chris Bigg in fact design the artwork
for Revelations? There is no design credit on the cd and I get the
distinct impression that the art was thrown together from rejected
concepts for previous releases.

And one more time, just in case: did Seefeel's _FractureTied_ (well,
that's how it's listed) ever appear in a plastic case or digipak? I have
heard reports of a version not released in a crummy cd-sleeve but never
seen such.

Recommend go see Crimson Tide. Hell of a flick.


 einexile

Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 22:51:16 -0500
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Reply to hnia q? + bigg art cred

              12 May 95 20:44:19 PDT" <2fb42b9c6426002@cdshub.cdc.com>

>Speaking of the US releases for Livonia and Home Is in Your Head, are
>they still in print? I have not seen them for a while. They are nice
>packages, even if I object to the pairing of HIYH with the ep.

I know where a Livonia is sitting in the CD rack waiting for me
to buy it.  I visit it often.

it's friday night again, i'm still at work again,
other 4AD-Lers are out having lives again...

___________________________________________________________________
Kent J. Vanderwaal
kjv@aquarius1.cim.cdc.com
"gifted child, omoidashite yo"
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Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 00:30:25 -0400
From: "Maura A. Smale" (mas5815@IS2.NYU.EDU)
Subject: throwing muses


hi!

just back from throwing muses at irving plaza here in nyc!  fantastic!
my only complaint was that they only played one pre-hunkpapa song
(vicky's box).

anyone have any info. on this song?  is it a new b side?  is there a new
single out?  please please let me know...i crave more throwing muses songs!

thanks,
maura

"i have broccoli in my socks"
mas5815@is2.nyu.edu


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