hey i still call verve, verve and not the verve...i think with that pesky article tacked on it loses something...like at that farce lollapalooza, yes i went strictly for verve...ok geo clinton too...but i felt more comfortable screaming "verve fucking rules...no come down...ahhhhh" as opposed to an added "the" to lose its romantic flavorin...anyway i must defend verve records because i do love jazz, i also love that kids inthe e hall sketch....anyway...the point i'm trying to make is that jazz is in fact dead and those folks are gonna need all the money they can get... just think of verve records as a washed up child actor....as tom wolfe put it "a great height to view the world from,...a great height from which to fall" take pity on them, dont hate them...i guess i see why there's a ruckus though, im still quite pissed about this london suede shit... oh by the way someone unsubscribe my dumb ass...im going home for the summer "come with me now...it's your time" suede bye zhivago
--from Mike the Iceblinker: > Speaking of Mispresses.... > > Did anyone ever have anything odd occur with their CT Box Set? When I > first got it, I popped in Peppermint Pig and out came some rapper > yelling, "I like PUSSY!..." And I thought, "Well, this is obviously > NOT Liz..." :) Oh well, it was a nice story, even if it was a joke. :G) On a similar theme, although not truly 4AD-related (of course, what recent threads *have* been?)... I bought a copy of Main's _Hydra-Calm_ CD for a friend about a year ago from Parasol. Whenever it came, I took it right over to his place, and he put it on. The first few seconds passed, and the music coming from the speakers was decidedly different from that found on my disc of the same album. Then a choir of children and adults..."okay, something is obviously wrong here". It wasn't until we heard a rather choirboyish voice ask "please sir, may I have another?" that we realized that the soundtrack to the "Oliver!" musical had been mispressed onto the disc by mistake. Not quite what we were expecting! ---JeremyOh great...now we get to go through the great "analog vs digital" debate on Dreampop-L, too.
> I know that there are quite a few Portishead fans on > this list so I was wondering if anyone was a fan of, or > had any info on Tricky or Massive Attack...both Tricky > and Massive Attack are in the same "Trip-Hop" sounding > vein as Portishead...I have a little bit of info but I Tricky are quite reminiscent of Portishead, but I'd dare say better. The album (name escapes me) was released domestically fairly recently and it's on Island so it should be easy to find. If you like P-head it's a pretty good bet you'll like Tricky. They have the same extensive sampling at P-head. They even do one of the same songs (complete with build in scratches and pops), revealing just how much both versions owe to the original. The female vocals are fairly similar, with a lot of variety from song to song--perhaps a little less "character" with Tricky. They're even more all-over-the-place stylistically (noisy, straight ahead, jazzy, trippy, dancy, etc). They tend to sound a bit more hip-hoppy and a lot less spy-movie sound-tracky/tacky then P-head. Great atmosphere. I've listened to the disc a half dozen times and it's still growing on me; a good sign. Definitely worth checking out. zach
>Does anyone know anything about what The Lilac Time is up to? Or how >about Bel Canto? I'd ask thislisty questions, but I've been gleaning my >answers from just reading postings to this list. I consider Bel Canto pretty thislisty myself. Anyway, they supposedly Bel Canto have an album recorded and are just waiting to try to get the perfect record contract. I think they could do quite well ($wise) but wonder why they haven't. Is the public not ready for them? Did the record companies underhype them? Who knows. All i know is that i WANT that new album. -cz ___<<<<<<<<<*********ckemnitz@students.wisc.edu********>>>>>>>>>___ "By wheel or sail, just take me anywhere far from here where mud is made of our tears!" -Charles Baudelaire
When the CT box set came out domestically (US), I was working in a record store; we had a few returns because of incorrect recordings. You're not alone. Sortrada@delphi.com
No disrespect, but if you think jazz is dead.... you should check your head. Also, if you put 10 or 15 years of your blood and sweat into establishing and running a respectable label, you'd probably be concerned about someone coming in from leftfield and using your name right? That said, the fact still remains you can call them what you want.:^) Later, Brian. On Wed, 10 May 1995, Bryan M wrote: > hey > > i still call verve, verve and not the verve...i think with that pesky > article tacked on it loses something...like at that farce lollapalooza, yes > i went strictly for verve...ok geo clinton too...but i felt > more comfortable screaming "verve fucking rules...no come down...ahhhhh" > as opposed to an added "the" to lose its romantic flavorin...anyway > i must defend verve records because i do love jazz, i also love that kids inth > e hall sketch....anyway...the point i'm trying to make is that jazz > is in fact dead and those folks are gonna need all the money they can get... > just think of verve records as a washed up child actor....as tom wolfe > put it "a great height to view the world from,...a great height from which to > fall" take pity on them, dont hate them...i guess i see why there's a ruckus > though, im still quite pissed about this london suede shit... > > oh by the way someone unsubscribe my dumb ass...im going home for the summer > > > "come with me now...it's your time" > suede > > > bye > > zhivago >
Literati wrote: >This isn't even REMOTELY 4AD related, but I bought a Led Zeppelin tape once >that only had a leader, no actual TAPE in it! I played it, and 5 seconds >later, it stopped. Jammy sod, you coulda hadda listen to Staircase to Heaven. A lot more than 5 seconds, I can tell you.
>you could of had a listen to staircase to heaven >alot more than 5 seconds,i can tell you. WHAT??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Simon waved his big hair around and moaned: >Literati wrote: > >>This isn't even REMOTELY 4AD related, but I bought a Led Zeppelin tape once >>that only had a leader, no actual TAPE in it! I played it, and 5 seconds >>later, it stopped. > >Jammy sod, you coulda hadda listen to Staircase to Heaven. A lot more than >5 seconds, I can tell you. Call it youthful indescretion. I didn't inhale, and all that... Literati ____ // \\ () Iffin' you really care for me, Don't comb your hair for me \_/ // () Iffin' you want to make me weak and weepy, // Then act real weird and wild and creepy --Dame Darcy / -- literati@prairienet.org --
ahhhh. bel canto. a band that's not mentioned enough. well..... you could check out their www address. i think that there's some mention of a new album there. >...of 4AD bands: > >Does anyone know anything about what The Lilac Time is up to? Or how >about Bel Canto? I'd ask thislisty questions, but I've been gleaning my >answers from just reading postings to this list. > >Thanks muchly! > >Elaun >(ecable@acs.ucalgary.ca)
this is in response to elaun's question about bel canto, and this is really surprising because i heard that anneli is pregnant! maybe she's pulling a bjork (who was on stage even while 9 months pregnant). :) take care, ****************************************************************************** | "we shall board our imagined ship and wildly sail Candice A. Mack | among sacred islands of the mad till death mackc@watmail.ucr.edu | shatters the fabulous stars and makes us real." | -sylvia plath, "tale of a tub" ****************************************************************************** ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:34:53 +0200 (MET DST)
- From: Thomas Rinnan (thomasr@nvg.unit.no)
- Subject: Bel Canto at TMV - festival (Trondheim)
Hi all, Last Wednesday our local newspaper printed an article about this summers music festivals. They said that Bel Cantos new project "Music Channel" will have its premiere (sp?) at the TMV - festival (Trondheim - Norway June 5. - 10.) They are going to perform together with israeli and palestine musicians. -Thomas -- Thomas Rinnan e-mail: Thomas.Rinnan@nvg.unit.no Ragnhilds gate 6 voice: +47-9014 8536 N-7030 Trondhjem Norway "FORTY-TWO"
-=- Vinny -=-writes: > Hi, > > I have been mostly lurking on this list, but now I have a question > for you all: > - Does anyone of you have the postal (and/or Email) address for > 4AD. I need this address for a project I have to do for > school. It is a project about the history of 4AD, what 4AD > stands for now, why they contracted the artists they have now, > etc. > > If you can help me with this, please send me the information! > 4AD 15 Alma Rd London SW18 1AA United Kingdom I doubt if they'll be replying. They never do. Veel geluk! Huite Rietveld Play It Again Sam
Donald Chinwrites: > I saw that there was a new album by Lori Carson. Is this the same Lori Carson > who is in the Golden Palominos? Yes, indeed she is. > If she is the same, what does the album sound > like. A little introspective. Beautiful voice, produced bu Anton Fier. > I can't remember the name of the album. Where it goes. > I have the last two albums by > the Golden Palominos. That is all I have by them. I quite enjoy their style > of music. Someone told me that The Golden Palominos have been around for a > while. Does anyone know what their earlier material sound like? They are around quite some time right now. It's a project by Anton Fier (producer, drummer) with changing cast. I have: - Blast of silence - A dead horse - Drunk with passion - Prison of the rhythm - Pure - This is how it feels - Visions of excess But there's still more! I really like 'Drunk with passion' the most. Some early albums (CD) are hard to find, but there are now two compilations with the early work. Cheerio, Huite
Literati: > This isn't even REMOTELY 4AD related, but I bought a Led Zeppelin > tape once that only had a leader, no actual TAPE in it! I played > it, and 5 seconds later, it stopped. Still not 4AD-related...I once heard a Venezuelan pressing of Led Zep II which had the intro to Black Dog (the scritchy-scratchy sound before the singing starts) TWICE L a r r y "If you want to know what populism means, look in the dictionary." -Pfft! Looking in a dictionary - that's *so* elitist!
Vinny: > postal (and/or Email) address for 4AD. I need this address for a > project I have to do for school. That sounds like a neat idea..."Today for my presentation I've brought all my 4AD CDs and as you can see, I'm wearing my Cocteaux T-shirt"... Huite: > I doubt if they'll be replying. They never do. Probably not. Why oh why are (smaller) record labels so bad at answering mail? I've written to Creation and even Duophonic and they've never replied. Only Flying Nun has ever had the decency to write back - 2 fat envelopes full of cool stuff. Larry PS ook veel geluk
Thom"in the missionary position. Check out primate mating positions for reference. Some missionary just got lonely looking the other way and made it up. Gay Church of the Piedmont
I don't know if this is a well-guarded secret, if I was misinformed, or what, but I saw an e-mail address for 4AD posted on www. It is: bulletin@fourad.daemon.co.uk Does anyone know who takes care of this? I wrote it twice, and once I got a reply from some guy named Cliff W. Any additional info would be nice (btw, guy doing the project for school, did that address work for you?) Thanks a bunch, Eric E. Wittmershaus eewittme@students.wisc.edu eric.wittmershaus@mail.admin.wisc.edu
Well, I received email from Creation a couple of days ago. They acknowledged the fact that I had sent mail to them before (actually, I sent mail to Slow- dive), and explained that if I wanted to get placed on their mailing list to receive regular updates as well as free merchandise, I had to send a post card with my snail mail address on it to them in London. I don't have their address, but it's listed on most Creation CD's. Their email address is: CREMKTG@cityscape.co.uk Since My Bloody Valentine, Adorable, and now Slowdive are no longer on the Creation roster, I don't much care for the label anyway. (And YES, I KNOW Adorable simply disbanded...) And Ride are too far gone IMO to even listen to anymore, except for some of Smile and a couple of tracks from Going Blank Again. Mike
Someone just has to know the answer to these inquiries: 1)Is the new Belly (uk) single for "Seal my Fate", and if so what's the cat. #? 2)Did 4AD (uk) release The Glee Club's _Mine_, or was it on Setanta there, and licensed to 4AD in the US? 3)How obscure, or rather, difficult is it to obtain MBV-_S/T_ US release on vinyl? 4)I saw yesterday, a Frank Black release entitled _the Black Sessions_, which was *suprise* in a black jewel case, with a 'Made in Holland' sticker on it. I'm assuming that this is his last release to be affiliated with 4AD, and elektra, yes? Jason srilank@aol.com "Rutherford B. Hayes, a Triceratops, was 87 feet long and was just damn near our longest president ever."
>>Yes, this is a big joke. You're a real fucking funny guy. First a >>cowardly accusation buried in a tongue in cheek statement, then a >>flippant anti-apology because you haven't the guts to actually apologize >>like a normal, reasonable person who has just maligned (pretended not to >>malign, whatever) someone they don't know. Why don't you take your advice >>and your sorry apology and get on your horse and ride the hell out of >>town? I'm sure this list has nothing to gain from your presence. >> >>Thank you. >> >> >> einexile > >Listen, for Christsake! I learned my fucking lesson about sticking my nose >in where it's not fucking wanted about an hour ago. I hope you do the same >(maybe you won't have to get flamed from someone just waiting for you to >screw up before she tries to eat you the fuck alive). For your (and >everyone else who's listening) fucking information, I'd already sent a >personal apology to *k-j* apologizing for jumping the gun, etc. In fact, I >received her reply before I received your batch of daily insults. If you >don't believe me, then that's too fucking bad for you. Now get off my ass >and go back to your fights with the rekkidstore guys. Maybe I shouldn't >have said that, but I believe I have the right to after what you've put me >through. > >Like I said, I learned my lesson about jumping to conclusions. I hope you >learned yours. Both of you: Is this the style here or what? To einexile: Actually I got more information out of Erics` letters than from your daily insults....so I am quite sure whose presence is needed here! Maybe you should look out for a different mailing list or open up one, like: alt.misc.rude To Eric: Next time, just be more careful. You apologized and I guess that is just fine...pobably the last word has to be spoken by *k-j*. Thanks for taking time to read this statement, Matthias. "Accident in puncto, quod non speratur in anno."
>the reason why this hasn't been released isn't really the cranes' fault, >but actually they're waiting for copyright premission from the estate of >jean-paul sartre. i guess we can hope to see it this summer.... yeah, i heard it was supposed to be released around the time "loved" was but..... WASN"T! i hope they do get permission.... i mean, Alison speaking french!! it doesn't get much better :) thank you. -robert.
>on this topic has also mentioned "that voice" as a fault of Swirl. One >person recommended them, however, and I'd probably buy "Unicorn" if >anything, supposed to be the most "professional of their albums." Btw, >ironically enough, they're on the Dirt label. > thanks for the info. i'll try to check them out! who knows, if the music is good, it could overpower his voice.:) -robert.
You wrote: > >>what do you think of "Ardor".... >>just wondering, i think it is as >>beautiful as the first! others aren't >>so impressed... > >I have Idylls and Ardour and to me they are >indistinguisib... indistinguisable... the same. >Maybe after listening to them alot more they >will sound dissimilar, but since I bought them >close together (in time)... that could be why (close together) that they sound similar to you! i bought both when each came out and by time Ardor came out, it struck as moving in a totally differnt direction... before that they always struck me as sort of "ethnic" i'm not even sure if that's it the word. but now it seems alot more... i don't know! just something different, like the use of English for one thing hehe :) both are still great albums though. -robert.
>Well, some info on Tricky would include that he hates being termed >"trip-hop"! > >I suppose I can see a case for lumping them together simply as a means of >presenting them as bands who are attempting something different, but that >gets twisted around to mean that they're all doing the same thing (as each >other) which is far from the case. well I wouldn't say that far from the case...Tricky's song "Hell Is 'Round The Corner" is almost an exact copy of the last song on Portisheads' "Dummy". Also ...Tricky just re-used two of the songs off of Massive Attacks "Protection" and put them on his album with him either rapping a little differently or having Martine sing instead...he turned "Karmacoma" into "Hell Is 'Round the Corner", and the first song off of "Maxinquaye" is another song off of "Protection" that I can't remember. They do all have their subtle differences but, they do all sound pretty much the same... -Jacob Paul Leonard ...I was a girl too...
> Huite: > > I doubt if they'll be replying. They never do. > > Probably not. Why oh why are (smaller) record labels so bad at > answering mail? I've written to Creation and even Duophonic and > they've never replied. Only Flying Nun has ever had the decency to > write back - 2 fat envelopes full of cool stuff. yeah some are nice. everytime i write Sam from BTFABG/projekt he writes me back, with long letters too! Also, before "of these Reminders" came out he sent me the art proofs for it! a nice guy indeed. -robert.
What do I think of the new LSD? NOt as good as the first. I sampled it at a local record store and while their were some interesting pieces there, it was nothing like the first one "Idylls". Oh well, I guess we can just explain it as the usual sophomore effort jinx. On Tue, 9 May 1995, Robert Pietrusko wrote: > > W I L L Y O U F A D E > > > > > > " .... and i grow dizzy...." > > what do you think of "Ardor".... > just wondering, i think it is as > beautiful as the first! others aren't > so impressed... > > -robert. > ############################################################################## Amber ......broadcasting from the edge of the madding crowd...... Storm Waves Will Coucheron-Aamot a.k.a. soon@unm.edu In The Of "the most beautiful noise" Ocean Noise my bloody valentine Sky ##############################################################################
I know I'm getting to this rather late, but with ... hell, you all don't care. Anyway, King of the Monsters!wrote: >I don't own anything by DCD and am looking for a place to start ... People have already suggested A Passage in Time, which is an okay sampler of their previous work. It's got its moments, but it omits many songs that are much better, IMO. My favorite non-compilation album is Within the Realm of a Dying Sun, which has three *great* songs by Brendan and four -=>***GREAT***<=- musical epics by Lisa. >Pretty much the same with CT, I own Blue Bell Knoll (alright, but it's >not one of my faves). How's Treasure? Any others you can recommend? Treasure starts out ... uhm, musically "dense" I guess you could call it. I haven't really gotten a similar response out of fellow CT fans here (all two of them), but to me, the first four songs have an edge to them -- Liz's voice is harsh at times, she almost wails at others, and the accompanying sounds are very rock-y, at least to me. That said, they are infinitely more accessible than anything off of Garlands (their first), but I really didn't see much of a progression from Head Over Heels (their second and the album prior to Treasure). Also, starting with the fifth song, Pandora, they enter a realm of fairy-tale, fragile, beautiful music. It's almost like two different albums to me. Anyway, neither Treasure nor BBK are my favorites. That honor goes to Victorialand, which is basically (to my ears) a continuation of the fairy-tale landscape they composed at the end of Treasure, but they got rid of the drums and just went crazy with the texture and layers. I worship it. Of course, you probably don't understand anything I've just written and everyone who does probably thinks I'm babbling gibberish. Failing a semester brings out the critic in me, I guess. - Milan
It's funny you should have asked for Creation's new address. A friend of mine forwarded this info to me mere days ago. I hope it helps. Regards, Elaun ---------- Forwarded message ----------Subject: A Message From Creation
"A message from Creation Records" Thank you to everyone that has mailed in to Creation, since our launch on the Web at the beginning of February. We are sorry to have taken so long in responding to you, but we have been inundated with requests. We are now putting together our mailing list for all fans of Creation to receive the latest news relating to the label and its artists. In order to process this we require from you confirmation in writing (a postcard will do) of your name and full postal address. In return we will send you initially a Teenage Fan Club sticker and poster, and will continue to include you in any "freebie" mail outs in the future. Thanks for visiting the Creation pages, and check back soon to get all the latest news on the Boo Radleys, Oasis, Teenage Fan Club and many others. We will also have some more IRC for you again in the near future. Don't forget the URL Send your details to our new address Creation Records c/o CREMKTG 109X Regents Park Road LONDON NW1 8UR UK Please send any replies to cremktg@cityscape.co.uk. Please DO NOT mail www@www.ph.kcl.ac.uk (message originator). Thank you.
I like my copy a lot, but I stole it so I didn't have any high expectations of it to earn out the money I spent on it. Overall, it's a LOT more techno influenced than Portishead and not terribly listy. Most of the songs are faster and less jazzy than Portishead and Massive Attack. That said, the Portishead remix of Paul Weller's "Wild Wood" so incredibly good that I like it better than most of the songs on _Sour_! The St. Etienne song is also quite good, with the vocalist from "Calico" and a Jah-Wobble-by-way-of-the-Orb sample. Skylab's "Seashell" and Tranquility Bass's "They Came in Peace" are moderately listy by way of their noise level, slowness, jazzyness, melodic content, and general weirdness, I suppose, but the rest of the album is pretty much slightly slow acid techno/house with moderate breakbeats. That said, some of that is mighty good too, if you're into it. Specifically check out the The Dust Brothers' (now known as the Chemical Brothers instead of The Dust Brothers UK after some legal hassle with the original hiphop Dust Brothers of Beasties fame) song, "My Mercury Mouth," Step Disk's "Boing Dragon," and The Crystal Method's "Dubiliscious Groove. Overall, since I don't know your taste (Jacob Paul Leonard, the man with three first names), I'd recommend that you listen to it before purchasing, if possible. Chris -- Chris Schachte ccs@dartmouth.edu
...be prepared to get a CD from another one of my favorite local Calgary bands known as Lemonjade. The Sensualists CD's, Lovesongs of Chaos and Desire, were mailed out (to everyone who asked for a copy for their campus station) a few weeks back so they should be arriving now. Please let me know when you receive (received?) your copy (and what you thought of the album). The Lemonjade CD will be mailed out next week (after the much famed MusicWest festival is over). If anyone else knows of campus radio stations that play good pop/electronic music let me know and we'll add you to our ever growing mailing list. For anyone else who is interested in getting copies for yourself let me know and I'll get back to you with prices. Thanks, Elaun (ecable@acs.ucalgary.ab.ca)
> Vinny: > > postal (and/or Email) address for 4AD. I need this address for a > > project I have to do for school. > > That sounds like a neat idea..."Today for my presentation I've brought > all my 4AD CDs and as you can see, I'm wearing my Cocteaux T-shirt"... > > Huite: > > I doubt if they'll be replying. They never do. > > Probably not. Why oh why are (smaller) record labels so bad at > answering mail? I've written to Creation and even Duophonic and > they've never replied. Only Flying Nun has ever had the decency to > write back - 2 fat envelopes full of cool stuff. > > Larry > > PS ook veel geluk I once wrote a letter to the LA 4AD office and actually got a postcard back... so maybe not all hope is lost. r rebecca fagan: rfagan@tiac.net
Has anyone else out there managed to get a copy of the Liquorice 7" on the Simple Machines label? It features 3 songs, "Stalls", "Artifacts", and "Squawk of the town". The last town has what appears to be a 'sample' of Elizabeth Fraser. It is unmistakeably Liz, and since there is no credit to her doing baking vocals on the 45 sleeve, i can only assume these vocals are sampled. However, I cannot place which song it is they are sampled from. It is, nonetheless, a very beautiful song... for those of you who haven't heard Liquorice yet, you're in for a treat!! "from the flagstones"... -BBK
hi! i just wanted to announce a fun fun fun concert in nyc sponsored by indiepop@eskimo.com tweefest '95! twee as fuck! the current list of bands stands as: Magnetic Fields Sleepyhead Kickstand The Legendary Jim Ruiz Group Slow Children Playing Racecar Cobalt Coloring Book the show is on Saturday, May 20, 1995. it starts at 7pm, and is at westbeth theatre music hall, located at 151 bank st. (1 block north of 11th st. just west of hudson st.) in the west village. tickets are $7 at the door. we hope to have cool t-shirts for sale as well as some other goodies. so show up! you know you want to! all the twee you can eat! for more info., email me! thanks, maura "i have broccoli in my socks" mas5815@is2.nyu.edu
Well, Wire is sort of thislisty. Has anyone out there noticed the similarities between Elastica's "Connection" single and "Three Girl Rhumba" by Wire? It's one of the most blatant rip-offs I've ever heard. A friend of mine showed it to me the other day -- sick!!! tired and worn out, Eric E. Wittmershaus eewittme@students.wisc.edu eric.wittmershaus@mail.admin.wisc.edu