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Subject: Kryzysztof Kieslowski
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 14:29:54 +0930
From: gks@manta.dsto.gov.au
Subject: Re: Kryzysztof Kieslowski
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 00:08:34 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: RHP promoo
Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 22:41:38 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@SCOOTER.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album
Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 23:36:23 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: M/A/R/R/S
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 10:24:38 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: Re: Fotzepolitic plus
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 10:24:58 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: Re: esp wondering...
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 02:14:11 -0700
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: Re: esp wondering...
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 07:51:13 -0400
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: v23 etc
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 08:44:28 CDT
From: Jonny Quest (jonnyq@DATATEK.COM)
Subject: Scheer again
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:14:18 +0100
From: Richard Fitzsimons (FITZR@IRLEARN.UCD.IE)
Subject: Re: v23 etc
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:32:20 +0100
From: Anthony J Lambert (dv49@MAILHOST.CITYSCAPE.CO.UK)
Subject: Go! Disc address
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:46:37 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Go! Disc address
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:26:45 -0400
From: "Johnathan A. Rickman" (jknee@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU)
Subject: Reply to Kryzysztof Kieslowski
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:03:08 -0500
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Foetus
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:24:25 -0500
From: hortman_M@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: DCD laserdisc & HNIA/RHP promo cassette
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:35:00 EST
From: "rex c. arthur" (arthur@3SIXTY.VOYAGERCO.COM)
Subject: Re: Reply to Krzysztof Kieslowski
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:30:23 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: modern english ad6 mispress
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 19:06:25 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: Re: v23 etc
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:22:15 CDT
From: Jonny Quest (jonnyq@DATATEK.COM)
Subject: 'Toward The Within' digipak for trade
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 19:25:37 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Reply to Krzysztof Kieslowski
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:29:02 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Kristin Must Hate Me
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:43:37 CDT
From: Jonny Quest (jonnyq@DATATEK.COM)
Subject: Re: new albums qs & bitching
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 13:02:27 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@GXL.WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: slowdive home page info
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:18:44 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: You wanted bad DCD and RHP lyrics? You got 'em!
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:26:09 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:39:56 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Option issues sought
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:36:19 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: v23 "this rimy river"
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 14:52:30 -0400
From: Jim Napiorkowski (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:43:43 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 14:16:59 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:47:10 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:59:24 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Jesus of Montreal
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 20:03:03 +0100
From: Anthony J Lambert (dv49@MAILHOST.CITYSCAPE.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Kryzysztof Kieslowski
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 14:13:55 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:55:14 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Kryzysztof Kieslowski
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 14:47:16 -0500
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: new albums qs & bitching
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:15:16 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: v23 "this rimy river"
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 21:14:10 +0100
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: new albums qs & bitching
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:14:34 -0400
From: "Johnathan A. Rickman" (jknee@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: DCD grainy LD
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 21:39:52 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: MUSIC & kieslowski
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:02:16 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:31:53 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: DCD grainy LD
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:30:54 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: Kryzysztof Kieslowski
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:47:51 MDT
From: Dave Gingerich (daveg@FRED.DEN.MMC.COM)
Subject: Re[2]: Reply to Krzysztof Kieslowski
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 17:19:50 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: v23 etc
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:05:37 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: CT and DCD
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:11:00 -0600
From: mesocyclone (soon@UNM.EDU)
Subject: tricolore...bl,wh,rd
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:36:17 -0500
From: Bryan M (NWND%IUP.BITNET@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU)
Subject: Re: CT and DCD
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:49:24 -0400
From: Yariv Pomeranz (YPomeranz@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:43:24 -0600
From: mesocyclone (soon@UNM.EDU)
Subject: Re: CT and DCD
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:41:22 -0700
From: "Michael S. Fischer" (mfischer@WAYNESWORLD.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 17:11:22 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:24:04 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: Kryzysztof Kieslowski
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:31:39 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: sylviansax
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:20:52 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: CT and DCD
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:47:39 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: kieslowski's filmography
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 21:28:40 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Swirl
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 21:45:08 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: sylviansax
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 22:09:44 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: sylviansax
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 21:48:37 -0600
From: Elaun (ecable@ACS.UCALGARY.CA)

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 14:29:54 +0930
From: gks@manta.dsto.gov.au
Subject: Kryzysztof Kieslowski


Hey, has anyone seen any of the Kryzysztof Kieslowski trilogy films
Three Colours White, Red and Blue. I've only seen Red which was a
truely remarkable film, and heard the soundtrack to Blue is very good
as well, esp the first track which is one of the finest sad & euphoric
pieces of music I've heard since TMC's "Song To The Siren". Worth
searching the world for.


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 00:08:34 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Kryzysztof Kieslowski


>Hey, has anyone seen any of the Kryzysztof Kieslowski trilogy films
>Three Colours White, Red and Blue. I've only seen Red which was a
>truely remarkable film, and heard the soundtrack to Blue is very good
>as well, esp the first track which is one of the finest sad & euphoric
>pieces of music I've heard since TMC's "Song To The Siren". Worth
>searching the world for.

Yes, I've seen Blue and White, and they're damn good!  White is my personal
favorite.  Blue itself isn't as good, but you're right.  The soundtrack is
worth killing 1,000 Pearl Jam and Nirvana fans for (including Chris
Higgins), but then again, what isn't?

In Ribbons,
Eric E. Wittmershaus
eewittme@students.wisc.edu
eric.wittmershaus@mail.admin.wisc.edu

Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 22:41:38 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@SCOOTER.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: RHP promoo


does anyone have a copy of that '4 tracks...' thing that they'd be
willing to part with, either through a lil' cash or some sort of trade?
I just remember how the 4 track promo for rollercoaster really got me
going... I wanna have this one in my pile too, if possible.  Thanks!

                            n9344881@cc.wwu.edu
  "He who clearly apprehends the scheme of existence does not rejoice over
 life, nor repine at death; for he knows that external limits are not final."


Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 23:36:23 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album


On Sun, 7 May 1995, BIGstirringofbirdsEYES wrote:

> On Sun, 7 May 1995, vilexile wrote:
>
> > > astonishing Bleak album
> >
> > I don't mean to nitpick but do you mean A Day in the Stark Corner or has
> > the live album gained a nickname? (I do not consider stark bleak, though
> > the live album is certainly dismal.)
>
> actually he's talking about Bleak (the band) who have an album called
> Vane (PRO53).  it's mike van portfleet and david galas.  i've yet to hear
> the album, but it's supposed to be amazing....

While I'm dunking my head in egg, who is David Galas?

> boy, how'd you miss this e.??? :)

I missed it because a certain tweeless friend of mine became too
enthralled with a tertain even more tweeless nonprojekky Projekt band and
foresooked all their worthier colleagues. Plus I dissed the 1-800-cd-laser
guy and his little boyfriend on this list got all hurt and probably told
him what a bastard I am, so I never call there anymore = I am not getting
any projekky these days. 

So where do I order this nonsense, then? They don't carry it up here, I
got in a fight with the bastard at the store in Santa Barbara I used to
go to, and I can't call the place in Philadelphia because I owe the guy a
tape and lost his frigging address.

Does anyone else encounter these ridiculous problems???

Anyway, I have six Plastikman CDs, so shake your finger at someone else,
bird-eyes! ;)


 elixenie, enemy of the rekkidstoreguys


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 10:24:38 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: M/A/R/R/S


M/A/R/R/S 'Pump Up The Volume'

>How many different album, single. and eps are there in CD format
>of this piece of music?

There is a Canadian EP,MC and CD- Compilation out by Vertigo (rel. 1988):

EP 870 210-1
MC 870 210-4
CD 870 210-2

I have the EP (33 rpm): it is in a green gatefold sleeve (very similar to
BAD 707R) and the tracks are the following:

1.Pump up the Volume ( 7"  US vers.)
2.Pump up the Volume ( Bonus Beats)
3.Pump up the Volume ( 12" US vers.)
4.Pump up the Volume (12" UK re-mix)
5.Pump up the Volume (instrumental)
6.Anitina (the first time I see she dance)

Matthias.

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 10:24:58 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: Re: Fotzepolitic plus


>                                 .grossliebenaugen.
>                                         .mark.
>    Uh...I was waiting for someone else who speaks German to mention
>this one :)...you can learn this charming word from Silence of the
>Lambs dubbed into German...
>                                        **Kendal

I am German ( my address states .de for Deutschland) and was quite surprised
about " Fotzepolitcs". Actually never heard of this before and it is very
unlikely that it is used in political discussions.
I have to check "Das Schweigen der Laemmer" film again.

And Mark : What does "grossliebenaugen" mean ? I guess you thought about
having "big lovely eyes":....    "Ich habe grosse liebe Augen."    :)

If any of you guys want to try out your German, mail me under:

umw17@rzserv2.fh-lueneburg.de

Matthias.


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 02:14:11 -0700
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: Re: esp wondering...


> anyway, my curiousity can take no more!  *k-j*, now that you've
sent our
> money off to MI, when can we expect the esp summer cassettes to
arrive in
> our mailboxes?

I've been wondering that myself!

shane | shane@trex.org


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 07:51:13 -0400
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: esp wondering...


>I haven't even got my *k-j* letter 'o recipies :^< *WAAAAAAH*
>
>r.
>
>>ps....i posted this to the list because i'm sure the rest of the esp
>>orderers are curious as well.....:)

I e-mailed *k-j* about a bazillion times concerning the ESP Summer tape,
and never heard from her, not even about the cookie recipe EITHER!  It
makes me sad as well.  I had a dream last night that Warren and his minions
dumped a crate of all Time Stereo releases on my door step with a note
attached saying "Give these to those that need it."



-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
John B. Jones                           e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu


LYRIC OF THE MONTH (club) (buy 6 for a penny, get 1 free!):
"I sweat like a bullet/ You swear like a train" -Throwing Muses
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 08:44:28 CDT
From: Jonny Quest (jonnyq@DATATEK.COM)
Subject: Re: v23 etc


this question may have been posted already, but does anyone have any
info on the book 'this rimy river'?  i heard that it was a book released
along with a v23 art exhibit in california.

if anyone has any info on how i could get it, please post.

thanks
jq.


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Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:14:18 +0100
From: Richard Fitzsimons (FITZR@IRLEARN.UCD.IE)
Subject: Scheer again


I don't I'm afraid Frank,
but if I find out anything I'll let you know.

Has anyone here heard of the Mexican Pets?
They're not thislisty but they are bloody good. They're
a small rock band from Dublin and are getting abit of
play in England including from John Peel. If you can get it I would fdefinitely
 reccommend the Subside single 7"

--R
looking forward to a slowdive release from 4ad

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:32:20 +0100
From: Anthony J Lambert (dv49@MAILHOST.CITYSCAPE.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: v23 etc


Jonny Quest asks:

>this question may have been posted already, but does anyone have any
>info on the book 'this rimy river'?  i heard that it was a book released
>along with a v23 art exhibit in california.
>
>if anyone has any info on how i could get it, please post.

"This Rimy River" is an awesomely well produced book that did indeed
accompany an exhibition in LA from September 13 to November 4, 1994.  It
reproduces much of the artwork credited to Vaughan Oliver and v23 from 1988
onwards and contains quotes from many of the artists (mainly 4AD bands,
obviously) who have had work done for them.

Now, this may not be particularly helpful as you're writing from the
States, I guess, but I got my copy from 4AD Mail Order for something like
25 GB pounds.  Hopefully someone else will be posting info on availability
in the US.

Oh, and apparently, 4AD is producing a deluxe version to be available later
in the year for nearer the 100 GB pounds mark.

Hope this helps!


Anthony J Lambert,
ajl@ergo.cityscape.co.uk

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:46:37 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Go! Disc address


Can anyone give me the address and phone number of GO! DISC in Arlington,
VA? Do they have a mail order service?

Thanks for your help,

Frank

++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:26:45 -0400
From: "Johnathan A. Rickman" (jknee@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Go! Disc address

              <4AD-L%JHUVM.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>

I don't have their address in front of me at the moment, but their phone #
is as follows: 703-528-8340

+++++++
John A.                  jknee@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
Rickman
+++++++

On Mon, 8 May 1995, Frank Brinkhuis wrote:

> Can anyone give me the address and phone number of GO! DISC in Arlington,
> VA? Do they have a mail order service?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Frank
>
> ++++++++++++
> brink2@xs4all.nl
> ++++++++++++
>


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:03:08 -0500
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Reply to Kryzysztof Kieslowski

              08 May 95 14:29:54 +0930" <2fada5d22515002@cdshub.cdc.com>

>Hey, has anyone seen any of the Kryzysztof Kieslowski trilogy films
>Three Colours White, Red and Blue. I've only seen Red which was a
>truely remarkable film, and heard the soundtrack to Blue is very good
>as well, esp the first track which is one of the finest sad & euphoric
>pieces of music I've heard since TMC's "Song To The Siren". Worth
>searching the world for.

I rented Blue and watched it just before I left Texas.  It was
great!  (Leaving Texas was.  ;) )  Blue was OK, I would like to see
White and Red.  I don't remember the music offhand, I suppose
it was melancholic like the movie.  Interesting story, though.
Julie Binoche (?) is wife of this famous french architect designing
a monument for EC union, family in car accident, husband and daughter
die, Julie sells all, moves into apartment in hobo paris, helps
sex dancer tenant whom others in apartment want to expel, watches
TV and sees them interviewing her dead husband's mistress who is
expecting, takes back villa and moves mistress in, throws herself
back into completing her husband's work.
Definitely not a Hollywood movie.  I've heard White and Red are
better.
___________________________________________________________________
Kent J. Vanderwaal
kjv@aquarius1.cim.cdc.com
"gifted child, omoidashite yo"
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Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:24:25 -0500
From: hortman_M@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Foetus


e wrote:
> The new Foetus album, Gash, came out Tuesday. It's kind of irritating and
> not as clever as his older stuff was,

My favorite lyric of all-time is still:

"..security's a luxury when you're sleeping in blood, sperm, vomit and piss"
from "Enter the Exterminator" off of "Nail".  (that beats the Insides
hands-down)

Thanks for bringing back my memory for 'ol scraping foetus.  My favorite
song is still "Descent Into the Inferno".  I *love* the way he's got the
do-wap singers mixed in with all the noise in background!  What a great pice
of work "Nail" is!

Anyone who doesn't own this disc really oughta go out and buy it!

marvynHortman  "Another hunnng-over morning...in the bottom of the black
lagoon..purgatroy disguised as a room...with a view!  I used to be in heaven
looking down...now I know the inferno from the inside.  and you can't see
out them windows, and smoke gets in your eyes..and I just want to cry cry,
cry, cry-cry-cry...CRY!"

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:35:00 EST
From: "rex c. arthur" (arthur@3SIXTY.VOYAGERCO.COM)
Subject: Re: DCD laserdisc & HNIA/RHP promo cassette


yes there is an american version of TTW on laserdisc. i have it. very
dissappointing. the transfer is horrible. the opening (left over shots from
Baraka) Yulunga is letterboxed while the rest of the film is not. it's very
grainy. if you haven't seen it..... beware of brendan perry's folk songs
and the annoying interviews (luckily you can program them out on the
laserdisc). otherwise it's a beautifully shot concert film with some
amazing moments.


>Is there a laserdisc version for Dead Can Dance 'Toward The Within'? And if
>so, is it American or Japanese? (please provide label/cat.no. You know, the
>usual boring bits I'm interested in).


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:30:23 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Reply to Krzysztof Kieslowski


     Kent wrote:

     >  I don't remember the music offhand, I suppose
     >  it was melancholic like the movie.  Interesting story, though.
     >  Julie Binoche (?) is wife of this famous french architect designing
     >  a monument for EC union                         ^^^^^^^^^

     Actually, he's a composer writing a piece to celebrate EC union - the
     unfinished piece is pretty central to the movie and the soundtrack.
     Having said that, however, I can't remember the music either...

     Larry
                                                   //
        You're giving three-card monte a bad name!
     //

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 19:06:25 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: modern english ad6 mispress


I have the following item for sale:

Modern English  7 inch  "Swans on Glass"   AD 6  mispress

The A-Side plays "Swans on Glass" while the B-Side contains two songs from
some other band ( not 4AD...I do not know them..."..reading the Classified..").
The label states Modern English "Incident".

The run out groove is the following:    W-2KD k 1148CBI

Serious offers to: (this is a VERY RARE item!)

umw17@rzserv2.fh-lueneburg.de

Matthias.

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:22:15 CDT
From: Jonny Quest (jonnyq@DATATEK.COM)
Subject: Re: v23 etc


thank you for your reply, anthony.

i think it's a little peculiar that the exhibit was in LA, yet it`s so
difficult to get a copy of the book in the U.S.

ivo - are you listening?  :)

jq.

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Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 19:25:37 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: 'Toward The Within' digipak for trade


I have a beautiful mint copy of the DEAD CAN DANCE  - Toward The Within
digipak 'advance copy' CD I'd like to trade. Interested?
Here are a few things I'm looking for:

- HIS NAME IS ALIVE/RED HOUSE PAINTERS - Ninety-Three ( 7-track sampler
cassette)
- SWALLOW/RED HOUSE PAINTERS - 92 (4-track sampler cassette)
- UNREST - Make Out Club (Remix) (1-track promo CD PRO-CD 6435)
- HIS NAME IS ALIVE - Darling  (Soil Samples 7" PRO-S 6107)

If not convinced, what about one of the above for an unplayed copy of the
legendary JOY DIVISION - Komakino/Incubation flexidisc (FAC 28)?


Please reply via private e-mail.

Frank


++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:29:02 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Reply to Krzysztof Kieslowski


>     Kent wrote:
>
>     >  I don't remember the music offhand, I suppose
>     >  it was melancholic like the movie.  Interesting story, though.
>     >  Julie Binoche (?) is wife of this famous french architect designing
>     >  a monument for EC union                         ^^^^^^^^^
>
        Larry wrote:

>     Actually, he's a composer writing a piece to celebrate EC union - the
>     unfinished piece is pretty central to the movie and the soundtrack.
>     Having said that, however, I can't remember the music either...
>

       Actually Larry, if you would have paid attention, his wife writes
his music, and the movie is actually about her struggle to try and finish
the work wihout him, without ruining his reputation.  Nuff said.

Good luck to all you ESP Summer-ers,


Eric E. Wittmershaus
eewittme@students.wisc.edu
eric.wittmershaus@mail.admin.wisc.edu

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:43:37 CDT
From: Jonny Quest (jonnyq@DATATEK.COM)
Subject: Kristin Must Hate Me


i just thought this was an interesting note to post.

i went to the TM show in nashville and it also happened that my ex-girlfriend
was there.  she and her friends hung around after the show and got to go back-
stage to meet the band.  i don't know why she did this, but my ex gave kristin
the journal she had been keeping while we were together and after we broke up.
i never got to read the journal, but i know that after we broke up, she got
kinda hateful for a while (burning all my belongings that were in her
possession, etc).  we are friends again now, but i have no idea what was
written in that journal.

so kristin, if you happen to be listening, i'm not all that bad.

love,
jq.


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Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 13:02:27 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@GXL.WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: new albums qs & bitching


---from vilexile:

> Whatever happened to the new Labradford album that was supposed to come
> out last month? Is it out? Does anyone have it or know where it's
> available?

That's the first I've heard of this, but then again, I'm still not over
_Prazision_ yet, either.

> Same with Verve. I know a single was due a while back but I don't see it
> for sale anywhere (not that I would) or discussed anywhere, and I thought
> the album was supposed to be out by this point.

Someone on the UK-Indie list posted recently saying that the new album is
called _A_Northern_Soul_ (great name, guys), and due out in the UK on
July 3.  It's in the new releases section in the new AP as well, but as
usual, it doesn't list a specific date.

> Black Dog Productions' sadly mediocre new album Spanners came out in
> the US last week, or the week before, or something, if anyone cares.

Aw, I like _Spanners_!  I heard it last night at a bandmate's house, and
thought it was pretty hot.

> Unfortunately, the Cranes are working on a new album.

As are the Cocteaus, apparently.  (Draw connections where you will.)  The
music is completed, and now Liz is doing her thing.  They're hoping to
have a new album and two EPs out by the end of 1995.  (I'm not holding my
breath.)

> Oh yeah, and the recent Nitzer Ebb album is freaking horrible, as you
> might have imagined.

That's what I was afraid of...

---Jeremy  The man's as mad as a hatter.


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:18:44 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: slowdive home page info


You wrote:
>
>Hi list,
>
>        Does Slowdive have a www home page?? If there is, what is the
>address? Thanks.
>

you could try http://www.musicbase.co.uk/music/creation/slowdive

hope i have helpped.

                                        -robert.

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:26:09 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: You wanted bad DCD and RHP lyrics? You got 'em!


>>From "In the Kingdom of the Blind the One-Eyed are Kings"
>(the title is bad enough, but here's more):
>
>"For time has imprisoned us
>in the order of our years [I hate the way time is just so
chronological too],
>in the discipline of our ways
>and in the passing of momentary stillness
>we can view our chaos in motion [as opposed to motionless chaos]
>and the subsequent collision of fools [smart people don't bump into
each other]
>wll versed in the subtle art of slavery."
>

i like the lyrics to this song heheh.... oh well, i can understand
others though... like "fortune presents gifts not according to the
book"  sure, they didn't write the words but isn't that more of a
reason not to sing them??? :) personally, i don't really care about
someone's goatpen.


                        -robert.
>--------------------
>>From "Medicine Bottle":
>
>"...no more breath in the air
>or ladies underwear,
>tossed over the alarmclock..." [I hate it when that happens]
>
>--------------------
>>From "Japanese to English"
>(why does it not surprise me that Mark has an Asian fetish?)
>
>"...what if I put my head on your stomach
>and put my mouth to your hand..."
>
>Anyway, those are just some examples.  Sorry to offend (well, sort of
>sorry).  If you like these lyrics, bully for you!  I'm glad you enjoy
them.
>I myself don't.  No biggie.
>
>-- Jeff
>
>Jeffrey T. Gayton
>jtgayton@polisci.wisc.edu
>

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:39:56 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album

              <4AD-L@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU>

>time around it's a fuller sound, with more melody and even some good
old
>Clan Of Xymox beauty/melancholy. As the postcard/advertisement says
>(twice, in fact) "devastatingly beautiful". I can't put it any better
>that that.

i agree, this is their (his) best release yet!  There is just so much
more going on in every song!  and the use of Female vocals is
incredable!  though the cover needs a little work (susan Jennings,
where have you gone???)  the album is great!  highly recommended to
all.




                                    -robert.

>This CD is available from Projekt:
>credit card orders: 1-800-cd-laser (*not* Projekt headquarters, btw)
>Lycia tour info: 818-395-7698
>
>|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
>| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
>| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
>| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
>

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:36:19 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Option issues sought


>I just listened to about half of the new Eden album and it's
>very good, and very unlike anything Eden has done before.
>Believe me, Eden isn't going to get anything close to a
>Dead Can Dance comparison this time around! More and harder
>guitars, more noise, Sean Bowley sounding deeper and darker...
>I don't think I'd know it was Eden if I hadn't played the
>album myself. I think I'll go put on the new Lycia album now.

yes, i agree!!!! piere has left the band and now it's only shawn with
some other people! What someone told me is that the current line-up to
Eden used to be Sunwheel, but with Shawn singing! anyone know if this
is true?  If so, why not just go by Sunwheel, because eventhough it is
a great album, it really isn't Eden!

                                    -robert.
/

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 14:52:30 -0400
From: Jim Napiorkowski (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: v23 "this rimy river"


This wonderful book is available in the states through one main source.

You may find a copy or 2 in a local store, but there is a store in Santa
Monica, CA that acts as a 'distributor' for the book.

The store is called Arcana: Books on the Art
contact them at:
1229 Third Street Promenade
Santa Monica, CA 90401
(310) 458 1499 (phone)
(310) 458 9014 (fax)

the special ltd. ed. edition, mentioned in a previous post, is scheduled for
release sometime in september. for roughly 100 british pounds (equivalent to
$160 US dollars)
so start saving!!!

jim
-lei muzik


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:43:43 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album


>PS Love to hear what other listers think of the album.
>
    i think that Bleak is a great album aswell!  but from what i know,
he released Bleak, so he could do some of the more noiser, aggressive
stuff.... the feeling i got was that he didn't want Lycia to evolve
into that.... i could be really wrong though!

    listen to it a few more times... it may grow on you! :)


                                -robert.

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 14:16:59 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album


On Mon, 8 May 1995, Robert Pietrusko wrote:

>     listen to it a few more times... it may grow on you! :)

I will, but why Mike and David didn't just make "Vane" the new Lycia
album strikes me as kind of weird.

Martin

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:47:10 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album


>
>> astonishing Bleak album
>
>I don't mean to nitpick but do you mean A Day in the Stark Corner or
has the live album gained a nickname? (I do not consider stark bleak,
though the live album is certainly dismal.)

BLEAK is Mike (from Lycia)'s side project! definately worth getting if
you like Lycia.

>What other new Projekt is coming out, btw?

i know the new EDEN is out.... beyond that i have no idea!

still waiting for Black tape for a blue girl... to put out another
one!!!

                        -robert.

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:59:24 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album


>go to, and I can't call the place in Philadelphia because I owe the
guy a
>tape and lost his frigging address.

if it is Digital Underground, i can get you the address because i live
in Philly.

>Does anyone else encounter these ridiculous problems???

affraid not.


                                    -robert.

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 20:03:03 +0100
From: Anthony J Lambert (dv49@MAILHOST.CITYSCAPE.CO.UK)
Subject: Jesus of Montreal


At risk of seeming passe, all of this talk of the music in Kieslowski's
"Three Colours.." trilogy has made me remember a sequence in "Jesus of
Montreal," a film by, I think, Denys Arcand.  The film is about the putting
on of a play about the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, and the play
is presented at various locations an and around a certain hillside in
Montreal.

The sequence I am remembering takes place after the crucifixion, in a long
large tunnel - like a disused road tunnel - with light at one end.  The
camera is pointing at the end of the tunnel which is out of focus but where
suddenly can be seen Mary Magdalene throwing back the fencing closing off
the tunnel and running towards the camera.  The music playing in the
background as this happens is "Pritouritze Planinata" (er, if I remember
the song title correctly), which is one of the songs on the first Bulgarian
Voices record.  Quite a sublime sequence!

(Don't tell me - you've already all talked about this movie.)


Anthony J Lambert
ajl@ergo.cityscape.co.uk

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 14:13:55 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: Kryzysztof Kieslowski


I haven't seen Blue yet, but I thought White was fucking lame,
particularly the final scene at the prison. As I understand it, Red is
about a woman who runs over a guy's dog and then becomes his best friend,
or some such thing. Does not sound particularly promising.

Martin

(grouchier than e today)

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:55:14 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album


>>What other new Projekt is coming out, btw?
>An e.p. from Black Tape for a Blue Girl is due this summer sometime

great!!! could you maybe give a short discription of this????
i've been waiting for this since '93. :)

please post when you have the release date or e-mail me at
cantique@ix.netcom.com
thank you.

                                    -robert.

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 14:47:16 -0500
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Kryzysztof Kieslowski


>I haven't seen Blue yet, but I thought White was fucking lame,
>particularly the final scene at the prison. As I understand it, Red is
>about a woman who runs over a guy's dog and then becomes his best friend,
>or some such thing. Does not sound particularly promising.
>
>Martin (grouchier than e today)

Wow!  I hope it's not contageous.

        I've seen all three and find them to be quite good but you have to
like that kind of movie.  Kieslowski tries to put a lot of symbolism into
his films and sometimes it works well.  I can see how the ending of White
would aggrevate some people but i thought it was appropriate.  The ending of
Red is particularly rewarding (or gratuitous, from a grouchy point of view)
for those who have seen all three.  Oh yeah, this is a music list AND i
don't remember anything about the music.  Sorry.

-cz (just a bit less twee than e on a bad day)

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:15:16 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: new albums qs & bitching


You wrote:
>
>---from vilexile:
>
>> Whatever happened to the new Labradford album that was supposed to
come
>> out last month? Is it out? Does anyone have it or know where it's
>> available?
>
>That's the first I've heard of this, but then again, I'm still not
over
>_Prazision_ yet, either.
>
>> Same with Verve. I know a single was due a while back but I don't
see it
>> for sale anywhere (not that I would) or discussed anywhere, and I
thought
>> the album was supposed to be out by this point.
>
>Someone on the UK-Indie list posted recently saying that the new album
is
>called _A_Northern_Soul_ (great name, guys), and due out in the UK on
>July 3.  It's in the new releases section in the new AP as well, but
as
>usual, it doesn't list a specific date.

that's odd... because i was in a local shop yesterday and i saw a Verve
CD that i had never seen before, so i asked the guy if it was the new
one and he replied with a "umm, well yeah."
guess not though.


                                -robert.

>

>


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 21:14:10 +0100
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: v23 "this rimy river"


On Mon, 8 May 1995, Jim Napiorkowski wrote:

> the special ltd. ed. edition, mentioned in a previous post, is scheduled for
> release sometime in september. for roughly 100 british pounds (equivalent to
> $160 US dollars)
> so start saving!!!

And if you really really think you want it, 4ad mail order sent me
something say that this was a very very limited edition indeed, so might
get a head start by mailing/calling 4ad and reserve a copy (I seem to
recall that it was possible). The late release is because of "production
problems".

Jon Kvebaek 

"Listen to us. We are serving the The Garden of Delights Immortality
Cosmic Conciousness The Best Ever In Drug Kicks. And love love love in
slop buckets. How does that sound to you boys?"
                                - William S. Burroughs, 'Nova Express'

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:14:34 -0400
From: "Johnathan A. Rickman" (jknee@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: new albums qs & bitching

              <4AD-L%JHUVM.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>

The new Labradford album, believe it or not, was recorded over a year ago.
Long before their British tour with Spectrum. It's simply been delayed
forever! But what I gather from Mark and Carter, it should see the light
of day come June. Keep your fingers crossed!

+++++++
John A.                  jknee@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
Rickman
+++++++

On Mon, 8 May 1995, Jeremy L Orr wrote:

> ---from> > Whatever happened to the new Labradford album that was
supposed to  come
> > out last month? Is it out? Does anyone have it or know where it's
> > available?
> ---Jeremy  The man's as mad as a hatter.
>


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 21:39:52 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: DCD grainy LD


Rex,

Thanks for the information on the DCD TTW laserdisc. I doubt it will
withhold me from buying the LD (I'm a rabbit 4AD collector). However, it
makes me suspicious again about LD's. A couple of years ago I laid hands on
the New Order 'Substance' laserdisc (I'm a rabbit Factory collector too) and
when I played it, on a friends machine, I thought.... my VHS copy looks just
as good!  What do you think, do they master LD's from VHS video's?

Oh, and as far as Brendan Perry's folk songs are concerned. He sounds a lot
like Roger Whittaker on those! (check your father's LP collection!).
About the interview bits: how can people who talk so carefully and
academically  make such good music!
ONLY JOKING!!!!!

Regards,

Frank

++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:02:16 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: MUSIC & kieslowski


okay folks....here's the story.

each of the soundtracks to the trois coleurs films were composed by
zbigniew preisner and contain a few pieces from composer van den budenmeyer.

as each film contains recurring themes and symbols, so do the
soundtracks. they repeat and change, sort of like a phillip glass album,
but not really.  most of the songs are fairly short as well.

the music is mournful and, at times, cacaphonous.  quite good, IMO.

even better is the music to kieslowski's 'the double life of veronique'.
it's gorgeous!  ....a great film as well....

        .quieteyed.
                .mark.

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:31:53 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album


On Sun, 7 May 1995, vilexile wrote:

> While I'm dunking my head in egg, who is David Galas?

ummmm....lessee here....gosh durn! it don't say in this here projekto
catalogue.....

> > boy, how'd you miss this e.??? :)

[all of e.'s nasty actions deleted]

> Does anyone else encounter these ridiculous problems???

well.....if the people at the rekkidstores are in bad moods they either
get frustrated with me or make fun of me.  of course, i think i might be
banned from waxtrax if i go in one more time and bug them about that god
damn fuel album that i special ordered again....:)

> Anyway, I have six Plastikman CDs, so shake your finger at someone else,
> bird-eyes! ;)

harold budd yet:  :shakes finger at ronny moorings for obvious reasons:
records yet:  :shakes finger warren defever for not making an album with
harold budd yet (admit it, it'd be wonderful):  :shakes finger at andrew
eldritch and kevin shields for even more obvious reasons:  :shakes finger at
mark kozelek for not coming to colorado:  :shakes finger at all the people on
this list who aren't listening to faith&disease or and also the trees yet:
orchestral satre thing:  :shakes finger at david sylvian for having a
penchant for awful saxophone solos:  :shakes finger at david sylvian for
not making an album with harold budd yet:  :shakes finger at all the
people on this list who aren't listening to harold budd yet:  :shakes
finger at himself for doing something as silly as this:

how's that? :)

        .purplepershoreplums.
                          .mark.

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:30:54 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: DCD grainy LD


On Mon, 8 May 1995, Frank Brinkhuis wrote:

> Rex,
>
> Thanks for the information on the DCD TTW laserdisc. I doubt it will
> withhold me from buying the LD (I'm a rabbit 4AD collector). However, it
> makes me suspicious again about LD's. A couple of years ago I laid hands on
> the New Order 'Substance' laserdisc (I'm a rabbit Factory collector too) and
> when I played it, on a friends machine, I thought.... my VHS copy looks just
> as good!  What do you think, do they master LD's from VHS video's?
>
Hardly, if they're smart. Get your hands on a good THX laserdisc like
Terminator 2 or Silence of the Lambs and then you'll see the superiority
of the medium. It IS likely that some music LD's use the same VHS
masters, because theatrical feature films are more popular on LD. It is
also improtant to note that LD's have really only come into their own as
a home video medium of choice since about 1990-91, so depending on how
long ago you saw that New Order disc, it's possible most LD's at that
time weren't terribly good.

These days, LD's are doing for movies what CD's have done for music.
Movies thought lost to time are being released for the first time in
ages, with pristine transfers taken from the best available source
elements, while new movies are often transferred under the supervision of
the directors themselves. VHS has always been a primarily-rental, "let's
watch a video tonight, what the hell" medium, and so no one really ever
gave a damn about having the best quality possible. When laserdisc
collectors began popping up in droves, it's become almost an industry
hobby to restore movies, add extra footage, director's commentary,
behind-the-scenes footage, do frame-by-frame color corrections, you name
it. Just as with CDs: bonus tracks, retrospective box sets with wild
packaging, digital remasters that sound better than the original
albums--this is all due to CD technology. Why would anyone give a damn
about thirty year old albums at all if there weren't CDs around to give
you an excuse to remaster them, clean them up, and sell them all over
again. :)

Give laserdisc a try. You'll be spoiled, trust me.

By the way, it the case of ITL--that film was shot on video and then
transferred to film, hence the graininess. You'll notice a distinct
difference in the quality of the Baraka footage and the live footage.

Martin the technodweeb

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:47:51 MDT
From: Dave Gingerich (daveg@FRED.DEN.MMC.COM)
Subject: Re: Kryzysztof Kieslowski

              May 8, 95 2:13 pm

>
> I haven't seen Blue yet, but I thought White was fucking lame,
> particularly the final scene at the prison. As I understand it, Red is
> about a woman who runs over a guy's dog and then becomes his best friend,
> or some such thing. Does not sound particularly promising.
>
> Martin
>
> (grouchier than e today)
>

   I'm sorry to hear that you didn't care for White. I thought all
three of these movies were some of the best cinema I have ever seen.
   You're synopsis of Red just covers the very surface. Yeah, she
strikes the guy's dog, but I wouldn't say they become best friends. The
movie is more about the interconnectedness of all of the world's people.
It is really a message of hope and philial love. An excellant last
movie from one of the world's greatest film director's.
   I strongly recommend seeing all three movies, and preferably in the
"correct" order, i.e., Blue, White and Red.

--
Dave Gingerich
daveg@fred.den.mmc.com

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 17:19:50 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Re[2]: Reply to Krzysztof Kieslowski


     >  Actually Larry, if you would have paid attention, his wife writes
     >  his music, and the movie is actually about her struggle to try and
     >  finish the work wihout him, without ruining his reputation.  Nuff
     >  said.

     The only point I was really trying to make is that he's *not* an
     architect designing a monument at all, as Kent thought. It seems odd
     to forget that he's a composer, since the music, and her subsequent
     struggle to complete it, is at the centre of the film. She's not
     trying to finish a monument, at any rate. That's all.

     Larry

     "Mmm...incapacitating"


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:05:37 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: v23 etc


On Mon, 8 May 1995, Jonny Quest wrote:

> ivo - are you listening?  :)
>


*snort* huh?  what?   none of the above!  1776.... False! no, True!!!

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:11:00 -0600
From: mesocyclone (soon@UNM.EDU)
Subject: Re: CT and DCD


   If you're looking for a good place to start with DCD, you might want
to start with their compilation cd "A Passage In Time".  It gives an
overview of what they've done.  It's where I started and it's one of my
favorite cd by them.

  As for CT, I start with the Pink Opaque.  Probably the best album
they've ever done!


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Amber   ......broadcasting from the edge of the madding crowd......     Storm
Waves            Will Coucheron-Aamot a.k.a. soon@unm.edu               In The
 Of                    "the most beautiful noise"                       Ocean
Noise                      my bloody valentine                           Sky
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Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:36:17 -0500
From: Bryan M (NWND%IUP.BITNET@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU)
Subject: tricolore...bl,wh,rd


saw blue and loved it

probably one of thew ten best films i've ever seenm, i loved the ending
hey all if you liked tricolore see bitter moon...just a fine film
pweace

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:49:24 -0400
From: Yariv Pomeranz (YPomeranz@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: CT and DCD


Whoever asked for advice on CT and DCD:

If you take mesocyclone's advice and buy 'A Passage in Time,' please get it
from me.  I have this cd BRAND NEW and I'm trying to sell it.
This offer goes for anyone else out there who wants it.

I would also like to sell a Joy Division cd 'Live at the Paradiso' -
excellent quality boot, pretty damn long too.

A little trivia question for those of you have this popular JD concert.  Ian
Curtis repeats somthing to one of the stage hands (I think)  two or three
times.  It sounds like:  "Turn the [fulbackoverterry] please."  Does anyone
know what he's saying?  I sure don't.

-yariv

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:43:24 -0600
From: mesocyclone (soon@UNM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album


   HEY!!!  YOU CAN SHAKE YOUR FINGER AT WHOEVER YOU WANT, BUT LEAVE KEVIN
SHEILDS OUTTA THIS!!!  IMHO, Kevin Shields is one of the brightest
artists around these days!!  "soon" is one of the most brilliant songs
I've ever heard.  At least he didn't sell out to the mainstream like
Pearl Crap Toe Jam!  And who the hell is that Holly Budd person or
whatever you were talking about??

Listening to the solid wall of noise and loving it! -> Will!


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Amber   ......broadcasting from the edge of the madding crowd......     Storm
Waves            Will Coucheron-Aamot a.k.a. soon@unm.edu               In The
 Of                    "the most beautiful noise"                       Ocean
Noise                      my bloody valentine                           Sky
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Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:41:22 -0700
From: "Michael S. Fischer" (mfischer@WAYNESWORLD.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: Re: CT and DCD


On Mon, 8 May 1995, mesocyclone wrote:

>   As for CT, I start with the Pink Opaque.  Probably the best album
> they've ever done!

I guess that would be the case if you consider _The Pink Opaque_ to be an
album.  It's more a compilation of selected tracks from other albums and
EPs.  It does have some standout tracks on it, however, including a better
(IMHO) version of "Wax and Wane" than the one on _Garlands_, and, of
course, "Millemillenary," which is to be found nowhere else.

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Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 17:11:22 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album


On Mon, 8 May 1995, mesocyclone wrote:

>    HEY!!!  YOU CAN SHAKE YOUR FINGER AT WHOEVER YOU WANT, BUT LEAVE KEVIN
> SHEILDS OUTTA THIS!!!  IMHO, Kevin Shields is one of the brightest
> artists around these days!!  "soon" is one of the most brilliant songs
> I've ever heard.  At least he didn't sell out to the mainstream like
> Pearl Crap Toe Jam!  And who the hell is that Holly Budd person or
> whatever you were talking about??

errrr...sheesh! slowdown!  you're not quite looking before you're

you're right, kevin shields IS brilliant (although neil halsted is
even more so).  i love mbv and other rather noisy bands.  the point,
however, was that he hasn't put out an album in years and everyone on
heaven and earth has been waiting for one.  the same goes for andrew
eldritch (well, at least he hasn't put an album out in years, i don't
know if we're really that anxious though), which is why i coupled them
together

.....and harold budd is an amazing ambient composer who did an album
called _the moon and the melodies_ with the cocteau twins, among other
things.  his work with the piano is some of the most beautiful and
intelligent music i've ever heard....

if you like walls of noise, you should try lovesliescrushing (despite
what e. might say about that).....it's gorgeous!

                                .sugaredglowing.
                                                .mark.

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:24:04 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album


Meanwhile, back at the thread...

Having given Burning Circle and Then Dust a few more spins I must say I
really am getting into disc two. There's a great deal of beauty here and
the nuances are creeping up on me slow and easy. The two songs the girls
sings are heartbreakingly lovely. The jury's still out on disc one but
I'll most likely warn to it in time.

Martin

PS David Sylvian? Sax solos? Which songs?

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:31:39 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: Kryzysztof Kieslowski


On Mon, 8 May 1995, Dave Gingerich wrote:

>    I'm sorry to hear that you didn't care for White. I thought all
> three of these movies were some of the best cinema I have ever seen.

So could you maybe explain it to poor doofy me? Okay, this guy breaks up
with his wife for reasons inadequately explained, sneaks back to Poland
with some old guy who wants him to shoot him, makes piles of money by
screwing over some seedy underground types who considerately don't whack
him for it, and then plans some kind of revenge on his castrating bitch
of a wife through an ill-explained scheme involving faking his own death,
which lands her in jail, at the end of which they gaze tearfully at
eachother through barred windows at a distance of several hundred yards.
Anything I missed?

Martin
(too accustomed to good narrative)


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:20:52 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: sylviansax


On Mon, 8 May 1995, Martin Wagner wrote:

> PS David Sylvian? Sax solos? Which songs?

actually, i guess i was thinking of 'orpheus', from secrets of the
beehive.  but it turns out that that is a trumpet.  although, i think
they're a couple of tracks on gone to earth with saxophones.  i just
really don't like horns, so if someone like sylvian puts a horn in a
truly great song like 'orpheus' i tend to overreact and run around like a
madman saying things like, "david sylvian's always putting awful horns in
these really wonderful songs and it annoys the hell out of me!"  it's
probably not quite as bad as i'd like to make out to be. :)

you know, sometimes death in june has a minor penchant for horns as
well.....god awful bastard, that douglas p.! :)

        .gonetoearth.
    .mark. (hoping martin isn't as grouchy as earlier)


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:47:39 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: CT and DCD


Get The Pink Opaque( imnport only, $!) and/or Four Calander Cafe.
Some people don't like 4CC because it sounds too accessable and
mainstream( commercial, perhaps).  Not a strike against it in my book.
It's really good.

You will get a lot of different opinions.  You have to make up your
mind for your self really.


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 21:28:40 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: kieslowski's filmography


Seeing how Kieslowski's been big on this list today, here's a list of his
films.  I also have an interview with him for the interested.  Feel free to
contact me via private e-mail for the interview.  It's 17K and I'm not
about to post it on a music list.  For the curious, the Decalogue is about
the Ten Commandments.

Special thanks to emholz@students.wisc.edu for providing this filmography:
>
>Feature Films by Krzysztof Kieslowski
>
>List by English Title: (In chronological Order):
>
>     Personnel (Personel), 1975
>     The Scar (Blizna), 1976
>     The Calm (Spokoj), 1976
>     Camera Buff (Amator), 1979
>     Blind Chance (Przypadek), 1981
>     Short Working Day (Krotki dzien pracy), 1981
>     No End (Bez konca), 1984
>     A Short Film about Killing (Krotki film o zabijaniu), 1988
>     A Short Film about Love (Krotki film o milosci), 1988
>     The Decalogue (Dekalog), 1988
>          Decalogue 1 (Dekalog 1), 1988
>          Decalogue 2 (Dekalog 2), 1988
>          Decalogue 3 (Dekalog 3), 1988
>          Decalogue 4 (Dekalog 4), 1988
>          Decalogue 5 (Dekalog 5), 1988
>          Decalogue 6 (Dekalog 6), 1988
>          Decalogue 7 (Dekalog 7), 1988
>          Decalogue 8 (Dekalog 8), 1988
>          Decalogue 9 (Dekalog 9), 1988
>          Decalogue 10 (Dekalog 10), 1988
>     The Double Life of Veronique (La Double Vie de Veronique, 1991
>     Three Colors: Blue, White, Red
>          Blue (Bleu), 1993
>          White (Blanc), 1993
>          Red (Rouge), 1994
>
>
>
>
>
>

Eric E. Wittmershaus
eewittme@students.wisc.edu
eric.wittmershaus@mail.admin.wisc.edu

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 21:45:08 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Swirl


Is anybody out there into Swirl.  They're an Australian band that have been
compared to CT, Lush, and early Pale Saints (pretty broad comparison if you
ask me, but maybe not for an untrained ear.)  I'm wondering.  Which of
these comparisons are valid.  I'm thinking about ordering their latest,
"The Last Unicorn."  Any opinions of it??

I know I ask a lot about how different bands sound.  I prefer to hear what
other people have to say.  It's really interesting to buy the music and see
how people's comparisons stack up.  Many of you have been very helpful with
the CT and DCD stuff.  I'm not just going to run out and buy whatever seems
the most popular, though (I'm more original than that.)

Oh, I listened to TMC's F&S yesterday and it's great!  Back to Swirl.  I've
heard a little off of a couple early EPs.  How does the newer stuff
compare?

Thanks again,

Eric E. Wittmershaus
eewittme@students.wisc.edu
eric.wittmershaus@mail.admin.wisc.edu

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 22:09:44 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: sylviansax


Horns can be quite nice with a good musician blowing on one. It's just
too many people have only heard McBrass of the Tonight Show ilk, or
weasly synth brass of the sort that dominates dance music. Now, someone
like Miles Davis...shit, he did with one horn in one song what some
entire bands couldn't do in their whole careers...

Nothing like a good horn. The trick is finding good horns. (Yes, keep
your dirty jokes to yourself. ;)

I think Mark Isham's contributions to
Sylvian's albums worked very
nicely, mainly because their styles are so compatible with one another.
Try putting Branford Marsalis on a David Sylvian album and you have
grounds for murder. One song in particular, "Let the Happiness In," has
an entire brass _arrangement_, and I think it's one of the loveliest
songs Sylvian's ever done.

Martin

(what would be more evil than sending e a John Tesh CD for his birthday?)


Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 21:48:37 -0600
From: Elaun (ecable@ACS.UCALGARY.CA)
Subject: Re: sylviansax


I agree that the quality of the horn player does have its effect on the
output of the album, but come on.  Branford is a great sax player - just
not the type for a David Sylvian guest appearance (ie. you are compairing
apples to bananas here).

Personally, I do not find any of the horns on any of the Sylvian works
offensive in any way.

There's my 2 cents worth for tonight :)

Elaun


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