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Subject: Re: Evaluation please Red House Painters CDS
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 00:32:05 -0600
From: Elaun Cable (ecable@ACS.UCALGARY.CA)
Subject: Re: Fotzepolitic plus
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 02:21:26 -0500
From: kendal (kobermey@UNLGRAD1.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Zazou related question(s)
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 03:04:55 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@gxl.woodtech.com)
Subject: Re: Red Pressure Mounting
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 02:13:10 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: TWEE?
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 02:18:02 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Reply to AAAARRRGGGHHHH! TMC and CT Boxed Sets!!!
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 03:34:35 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: M/A/R/R/S Pump Up The Volume
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 12:13:17 -0500
From: Operator (root@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: M/A/R/R/S Pump Up The Volume
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 14:44:20 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Scheer info
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 15:02:22 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: M/A/R/R/S Pump Up The Volume
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 06:34:28 -0700
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: Lilliput video/Glee Club flexi
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 17:14:58 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 12:08:16 +0000
From: Steve Bagwell (Stephen_Bagwell@BAYLOR.EDU)
Subject: Re: Kitchens of Distinction on tour!
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 16:11:25 -0500
From: ALFrED DOUgLAS (R684863S@EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Option issues sought
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 17:59:16 -0700
From: Brant Nelson (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Reply to AAAARRRGGGHHHH! TMC and CT Boxed Sets!!!
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 19:06:27 -0600
From: mesocyclone (soon@UNM.EDU)
Subject: Lycia's new album
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 20:47:36 -0700
From: Brant Nelson (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Reply to AAAARRRGGGHHHH! TMC and CT Boxed Sets!!!
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 23:19:21 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 23:24:53 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)

Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 00:32:05 -0600
From: Elaun Cable (ecable@ACS.UCALGARY.CA)
Subject: Re: Evaluation please Red House Painters CDS


I've said this before and, dare I repeat myself, say it again:

I do believe that "Down Colourful Hill" and "Ocean Beach" are my most
favorite creations by RHP.  It has something to do with passion and zest
and fun(?).  I don't *dislike*  the two other works in between, but they
were not inspiring.

I hope that helps in your "which one to buy first" quest.

Oh, while I'm posting anyway, is it just me or does the RHP version of "I
am a Rock" and the CT "Spanglemaker" start out exactly the same or what?
Everytime I hear either one of those songs I end up singing (humming) the
other.

Elaun
(ecable@acs.ucalgary.ca)


Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 02:21:26 -0500
From: kendal (kobermey@UNLGRAD1.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Fotzepolitic plus

              "BIGstirringofbirdsEYES" at May 5, 95 03:24:39 pm

>
> .....to add to the this little cocteau titles discussion:
>
> for those of you who don't know german (and if you don't you should go
> learn it!)  'Fotzepolitic' means something to the effect of "cunt politics"
>
> lovely, eh?  i probably just changed the meaning of that song for a lot
> of people forever!  :)
>
>                                 .grossliebenaugen.
>                                         .mark.
>    Uh...I was waiting for someone else who speaks German to mention
this one :)...you can learn this charming word from Silence of the
Lambs dubbed into German...
                                        **Kendal


Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 03:04:55 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@gxl.woodtech.com)
Subject: Re: Zazou related question(s)


(Since this question was posted to both lists, I'll reply to both.)

---from Dmitri Bender:

> Does anybody know anything about this french babe who was on "Sahara
> Blue",Barbara Gougan or something like that ? A friend of mine is
> infatuated with her.

That would be Barbara Gogan.  In the 80's she sang in a band called the
Passions, who had a minor European hit with a song called "I'm in Love
with a German Film Star" (I *think* that was the name, anyway).

She resurfaced around the turn of the decade in a band called Sunrise
Hammers (a wonderful name, IMHO) with Tim Sommer of Hugo Largo.  I never
heard exactly what happened to them, but I would assume that
music-industry indifference caused them to throw in the towel.

Unfortunately, I've never heard anything by either band before; her
contributions to the _Sahara_Blue_ CD were the first vocals I'd ever
heard by her.  And all the information I've related above is culled from
earlier issues of Jack Rabid's zine, The Big Takeover, which is an
excellent read.

And now, MY Zazou-related question: Was a single ever released for HZ's
"I'll Strangle You"?  I'd really like to hear some remixes of that, and
I'd also like to possess it simply so I could sell _Sahara_Blue_, which
sucks, for the most part.

---Jeremy  Almost got IRC figured out...yeah!!!


Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 02:13:10 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Red Pressure Mounting


On Fri, 5 May 1995, Renee Bessette wrote:

> Does anyone know if the film _Red Pressure Mounting_ is available on video?
> if so, where could I find it?
>                  Renee

Is this the 'theme' mentioned on the UVS Blood and Thunder single? Well
hey, why don't you just give ol' Kurt a buzz and ask him yourself? :)
Sorry, joke in poor taste. Yeah, I just found my B&T single...hmmm. What
exactly makes you think there is such a film? Do you know anything about it?

Anyone want to chip in for a reward? A dollar from each list subscriber
to the person who tracks this guy down and delivers our urgent message:
"Kurt! Kurt! Come back Kurt!" :(


 einexile (theme from 'Fleeing a Town Populated by Old, Rude Drunks")

Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 02:18:02 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: TWEE?


BIGstirringofbirdsEYES WrotE:

> pps:  einexileistweeonabadday (don't ever forget that!)

Hey, thanks! I'll remember that one for sure. :)

e


Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 03:34:35 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Reply to AAAARRRGGGHHHH! TMC and CT Boxed Sets!!!


In Austin, the CT box set is around 50$ used, and 60$ new.  The{ are
plentiful all of a sudden.  Have they started making them again?


Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 12:13:17 -0500
From: Operator (root@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: M/A/R/R/S Pump Up The Volume


On Thu, 4 May 1995, Frank Brinkhuis wrote:

>It's about as rare as the 
>original ('87) MARRS 'Pump Up The Volume'  CD-EP's
How many different album, single. and eps are there in CD format
of this piece of music?

Thanks!


Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 14:44:20 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: M/A/R/R/S Pump Up The Volume


M/A/R/R/S 'Pump Up The Volume'

>How many different album, single. and eps are there in CD format
>of this piece of music?
>
'Pump Up The Volume' was a world wide hit. 4AD's only huge hit ever.
Originally even intended to be the B-side of 'Anitina' !!! (check the
'double A-side' sleeve of the original BAD 707 12" and compare it with the
BAD 707 R remix 12").
Although it was first released back in 1987 there must be quite a few CD
version around (USA, Canada, Japan, Australia, France, ...). I only have the
2 UK versions:

'Pump Up The Volume' BAD 707 CD (September 1987)
1. Pump Up The Volume (Re-Mix)
2. Pump Up The Volume
3. Anitina
4. Anitina (Re-Mix)
The gate-fold cardboard sleeve has the same (green/copper) design as the
remix 12". 1. and 3. are also on the Japanese '4AD '12 Inch 87 Anthology'
CD (CY-4415).

'Pump Up The Volume' BAD M 707 CD (September 1993)
1. Pump Up The Volume
2. Pump Up The Volume (Re-Mix)
3. Anitina
Digipak. Design totally different to original CD, using images from the
original 12" frontcover.

(There is a version of 'Pump Up The Volume' on 'Lilliput' too)

Frank






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brink2@xs4all.nl
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Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 15:02:22 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Scheer info


Just received information about 4AD's new signing SCHEER (a 5-piece band
from Dublin, Northern Ireland). They'll have a one-sided 7" out on 4AD very
soon, to be followed by an EP in the autumn. They are set to record their
debut album this summer.

Previous releases:
'Wish You Were Dead'  7", July 1993, Son Records
'Psychobabble' 4-track EP, July 1994, Son Records


Frank




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brink2@xs4all.nl
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Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 06:34:28 -0700
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: Re: M/A/R/R/S Pump Up The Volume


>How many different album, single. and eps are there in CD format
>of this piece of music?

AD 707 = 7"
BAD 707 = 12"*
BAD R 707 = Remixed 12"
BAD M 707 CD = CD Single

There's also an American 7", 12" and CD Single on 4th & B'Way
Records, and it was on the soundtrack for the movie _Bright Lights,
Big City_

The (overpriced) American 12" & CD version: Pump Up The Volume
(version one), Pump Up The Volume (bonus beat), Pump Up The Volume
(instrumental), Pump Up The Volume (radio edit), Anitina (version
two)

*As I understand it (from an interview with Martyn and Steve on MTV),
the original version (BAD707) was deleted and re-released (BAD R 707)
because the original had unauthorized samples...

> Although it was first released back in 1987 there must be quite a
few CD
> version around (USA, Canada, Japan, Australia, France, ...)

...and was never released on CD (except for the Japanese _1987 12
Inch Anthology_ and the American version) until last year (BAD M 707
CD).

Although, I have seen bootlegged copies of the "illegal" version, in
a cardboard sleeve, floating around in America...for $50.00!)


shane | shane@trex.org
(uses way to many parenthesis)


Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 17:14:58 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Lilliput video/Glee Club flexi


- Please, can anyone tell me what the 'Lilliput' video is? Was it issued at
the same time as the 'Lilliput' 2xCD set? Is it NTSC only? Oh, and a
tracklist would also be very much appreciated.

- Second, was the Glee Club 'Free To Believe' flexi a 4AD thing or 'just'
some flexi that came with a magazine?

Thanks again for your time, take care,

Frank
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brink2@xs4all.nl
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Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 12:08:16 +0000
From: Steve Bagwell (Stephen_Bagwell@BAYLOR.EDU)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs


I cannot stress strongly enough the beauty of slowdive's ep's
Buy the first for Avalyn
Buy the second for She Calls (my fav.)
Buy The third for the Golden Hair-Shine
Buy the fourth for so tired
buy the 5ep for country rain
buy the remixes for the reload 147 mix   AHHHHHHHHH
I have

I think Golden hair was left off Blue day because it is a cover and Avalyn II
because its closeness to AvalynI Just a guess

Steve


Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 16:11:25 -0500
From: ALFrED DOUgLAS (R684863S@EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Re: Kitchens of Distinction on tour!


EVERYONE!!

GO AND SEE THE KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION IF THEY COME!!! I SAW THEM ON THE LAST
TOUR AND BELIEVE ME, THEY ARE ONE OF THE BEST BANDS THAT I'VE SEEN LIVE!!

GO, GO ,GO!!!

--ALFRED DOUGLAS


Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 17:59:16 -0700
From: Brant Nelson (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Option issues sought


I'm looking for a review that's in one of the following issues
of Option: #46,47,48,49. Can someone help me out?

I just listened to about half of the new Eden album and it's
very good, and very unlike anything Eden has done before.
Believe me, Eden isn't going to get anything close to a
Dead Can Dance comparison this time around! More and harder
guitars, more noise, Sean Bowley sounding deeper and darker...
I don't think I'd know it was Eden if I hadn't played the
album myself. I think I'll go put on the new Lycia album now.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 19:06:27 -0600
From: mesocyclone (soon@UNM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Reply to AAAARRRGGGHHHH! TMC and CT Boxed Sets!!!


Hey all!
  Which TMC boxed set are we talking about?  The one with all three full
length cd's and a fourth for original versions?  I bought it here in
Albuquerque about two years ago for $45, I think.  Am I talking about the
same thing here, or just hallucinating??


##############################################################################
Amber   ......broadcasting from the edge of the madding crowd......     Storm
Waves            Will Coucheron-Aamot a.k.a. soon@unm.edu               In The
 Of                    "the most beautiful noise"                       Ocean
Noise                      my bloody valentine                           Sky
##############################################################################


Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 20:47:36 -0700
From: Brant Nelson (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Lycia's new album


My last message said "I'll go put on the new Lycia album..."
I did.

wow..Wow..WOW!
in-f***ing-credible! (and this is "only" after the first hour)
At just shy of the two-hour (!) mark, Lycia's double album
_The Burning Circle And Then Dust_ is light-years ahead
of the previous studio album. I didn't think I would ever see the
day when I would describe Lycia as blissful! But there truly are
several tracks that strike me in almost the same way as Slowdive
does with "Morningrise" and "She Calls"! That exhilarating,
just past the top of the rollercoaster, sustained rush of adrenaline
feeling... Don't go thinking though that they actually SOUND like
Slowdive though; that's not what I mean. As ever there's Mike
Vanportfleet's sepulchral vocals, the heavily reverbed drum machine,
the searing guitar shards burning over everything; it's just that this
time around it's a fuller sound, with more melody and even some good old
Clan Of Xymox beauty/melancholy. As the postcard/advertisement says
(twice, in fact) "devastatingly beautiful". I can't put it any better
that that.

This CD is available from Projekt:
credit card orders: 1-800-cd-laser (*not* Projekt headquarters, btw)
Lycia tour info: 818-395-7698

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 23:19:21 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Reply to AAAARRRGGGHHHH! TMC and CT Boxed Sets!!!


>Hey all!
>  Which TMC boxed set are we talking about?  The one with all three full
>length cd's and a fourth for original versions?  I bought it here in
>Albuquerque about two years ago for $45, I think.  Am I talking about the
>same thing here, or just hallucinating??
>
>
I'm talking about a 10CD CT boxed set that contains all their EPs and
singles as well as four previously unreleased tracks.


Tearing the World in Two,
Eric Wittmershaus
eewittme@students.wisc.edu

Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 23:24:53 -0500
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: Lycia's new album


On Sat, 6 May 1995, Brant Nelson wrote:

> wow..Wow..WOW!
> in-f***ing-credible! (and this is "only" after the first hour)
> At just shy of the two-hour (!) mark, Lycia's double album
> _The Burning Circle And Then Dust_ is light-years ahead
> of the previous studio album. I didn't think I would ever see the

This is interesting, because I found myself disappointed slightly in this
one. Rather than being light years ahead of Day in the Stark Corner, much
of Burning Circle and Then Dust sounded to me like Mike was treading
water. There is some more accessibility in many of the tracks--disc one
even has a couple of songs that are close to pop--but overall I got a
very strong "more of the same" vibe. Particularly after hearing the
astonishing Bleak album, which sounded to me like a natural and very
aggressive evolution from what Mike had been doing on the last Lycia
album. I suppose I was expecting something much more daring than I got
with the double-CD, after hearing Bleak and the noisier sections of the
live disc. I'll let you know if I've warmed to the BC&TD set after giving
it a few more spins, but my initial impression was a letdown.

Martin

PS Love to hear what other listers think of the album.


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