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Subject: MM Humour-CT Song Titles
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 02:00:00 LCL
From: "Neil G." (NEILG@AURUM.CHEM.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: Kitchens of Distinction on tour!
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 03:08:12 -0400
From: Brendon Macaraeg (bqm1808@IS.NYU.EDU)
Subject: einexile
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 03:25:38 -0400
From: Carolyn Hughes (Pandaura@AOL.COM)
Subject: DCD "TTW" ltd. ed. box set
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 07:20:07 -0400
From: Jim Napiorkowski (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: To Kill A Dead Man
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:37:07 BST
From: Yellow Submarine (ma3tjw@BATH.AC.UK)
Subject: dcd and BP for the last time (was Re: einexile)
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:10:21 -0400
From: "Lisa R. Chong" (yku00471@YORKU.CA)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: numbah 1) it's not because of warren...
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:18:18 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@EMAIL.PSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: sillypromogoodiesofthemoon
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:20:14 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@EMAIL.PSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: DCD "TTW" ltd. ed. box set
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 05:40:01 -0700
From: "though it seemed hardly possible, the black doll had indeed
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 09:56:42 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@EMAIL.PSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Kitchens of Distinction on tour!
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 09:08:38 CDT
From: Jonny Quest (jonnyq@DATATEK.COM)
Subject: port-a-potty-head
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 10:37:00 EST
From: "rex c. arthur" (arthur@3SIXTY.VOYAGERCO.COM)
Subject: 4AD/Warner Bros. promo CD's/cassettes
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:46:00 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: 4AD News in UHF
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 10:49:44 -0400
From: Paul Horton (Hrtn@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD News in UHF
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:18:47 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Innocence Mission
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:13:15 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 09:14:38 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:17:45 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: Stereolab lyrics
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:29:18 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:25:22 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re[4]: numbah 1) it's not because of warren...
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:19:17 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Red Pressure Mounting
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:44:07 EDT
From: Renee Bessette (RBES3493@URIACC.URI.EDU)
Subject: Re: Stereolab lyrics
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:49:00 EST
From: "rex c. arthur" (arthur@3SIXTY.VOYAGERCO.COM)
Subject: Re: stereolab
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:48:31 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Re[2]: Stereolab lyrics
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 13:19:16 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Joy Division Tribute
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:24:19 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: say hello to the smurfs
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 19:26:14 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re[2]: Slowdive EPs
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 13:11:03 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Spoonfed Hybrid and more!
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:50:58 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Mrs. Dolphin for RHP
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:01:00 PDT
From: "Patrick D. Oltraver" (seraphim@CTS.COM)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive EPs
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 14:07:00 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@EMAIL.PSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Re[4]: numbah 1) it's not because of warren...
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 14:01:44 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@EMAIL.PSU.EDU)
Subject: goodbye, goodbye, I'll miss you!
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 14:36:43 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@EMAIL.PSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: EMERGENCY TWGP
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:04:22 +0059
From: Michael K Curry (mcurry@WORLD.STD.COM)
Subject: Re: EMERGENCY TWGP
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:13:44 -0400
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: my $0.02
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:48:05 MDT
From: BWILLIAMS (BWILLIAMS@LIBRARY.CSF.EDU)
Subject: WANTED: DCD's WTROADS.
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:01:51 -0500
From: Lee Graham Bridges (s989790@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Innocence Mission
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:13:56 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@GXL.WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: TWEE?
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:09:49 -0500
From: Lee Graham Bridges (s989790@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU)
Subject: Reply to my $0.02
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:57:08 -0500
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Re: TWEE?
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:20:57 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Fotzepolitic
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:24:39 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re[4]: Slowdive EPs
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:22:29 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Re[6]: numbah 1) it's not because of warren...
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:15:52 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Fotzepolitic
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:40:00 -0400
From: James Sanchez (JSANCHEZ@HSSCAM.MIS.SEMI.HARRIS.COM)
Subject: Re: Re[6]: numbah 1) it's not because of warren...
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:56:49 -0400
From: James Sanchez (JSANCHEZ@HSSCAM.MIS.SEMI.HARRIS.COM)
Subject: RHP lyric questions
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:58:29 -0400
From: David Levine (Section25@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Fotzepolitic
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:08:36 -0700
From: illusory k (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Folky Brendan
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 23:30:45 +0100
From: "Hugh O'Brien" (hugh@daev.internet-eireann.ie)
Subject: v23 etc
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:53:11 -0800
From: "Heileson, Thom" (heilts1@MACGW.GHC.ORG)
Subject: unsubscribe
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 19:14:32 -0400
From: "Larissa N. Bean" (LReSKI@AOL.COM)
Subject: unsubscribe
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 19:23:19 -0400
From: "Larissa N. Bean" (LReSKI@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:28:19 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Spoonfed Hybrid and more!
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:32:27 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@FOZZIE.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: RHP lyric questions
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:34:22 -0700
From: "lushmuse@uci...i have nothing to offer but confusion..." (ea
Subject: Those @W@#(*&$@(#*& UNSUBSCRIBE messages!
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 20:18:23 -0400
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: You wanted bad DCD and RHP lyrics? You got 'em!
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 20:24:35 -0500
From: jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU
Subject: Re: Weatherbox
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 00:59:55 +0000
From: Phil Gyford (phil@JHEREK.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: To Kill A Dead Man
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 01:00:01 +0000
From: Phil Gyford (phil@JHEREK.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: You wanted bad DCD and RHP lyrics? You got 'em!
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 19:22:10 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: AAAARRRGGGHHHH! TMC and CT Boxed Sets!!!
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 20:52:15 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: my $0.02
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 20:58:08 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Reply to AAAARRRGGGHHHH! TMC and CT Boxed Sets!!!
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 20:58:38 -0500
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: slowdive home page info
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 00:23:28 -0400
From: "Johnson C. Ho" (xymox@MAESTRO.COM)

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 02:00:00 LCL
From: "Neil G." (NEILG@AURUM.CHEM.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: MM Humour-CT Song Titles


    The recent thread concerning the meaning of Cocteau Twins song
titles reminded me of an old Melody Maker article I have which I have
included below.  The piss-and-vinegar humour in the same Melody Maker
took a shot at Andrew Aldrich with an article headlined, 'Andrew
Aldrich Joins Sigue Sigue Sputnik!' - no one is spared their
cruel/excellant humour in the 'Sisters of Sputnik' article.

CT article:

Think Up An Amusing Cocteau Twins Title
(Competition Results!)

Yes, here we are again-it's time to exercise your whimsy glands and
help Robin and Liz out as they think up some more song titles!  But
first, a little "moan".  We have to say that last year's entries,
most of which appear on their new album, "Heaven or Las Vegas" were
somewhat below par.  "Pitch the Baby" and "Fifty-Fifty Clown" were
hardly the sort that cottony, snugly things are made of, while "Road,
River And Rail" practically verged on the sensible!  Had it not been
for the inspired "Frou Frou Foxes in Midsummer Fires" the whole
affair would have been a washout.  But no matter-here are some of
this year's entries.
John Curtis of Huddersfield, for instance weighed in with "The Wittle-
Wattled Turquoise Mau-Mau", which certainly impressed our
international panel of critics, with the exception of the stern
Bulgarian judge.
One Angela Redsbury, of Greenham pitched in with "Knickerbocker Hobo-
Jobo" and "Fireflies and Gumbie Floss" which certainly found favour
with a good many of our panellists-as did Kevin Hewitt of Bristol
with his epic "Hurdy Gurdy Wimbly-Wambly Dewy-Eyed Guttlechuck".  The
winner, however, by a unaminous decision came from one F Raud from
Dorset.  Beat this, Cocteau title lovers.  He suggested, "Itsy-Witsy
Teensy-Weensy Yellow Polka-Dot Bikini".  This magnificent effort even
drew a personal tribute from Liz Cocteau herself:"That's the best
song title i never thought of.  We'll use it on our next album.  It's
uncanny though, I'm sure i've heard it before.  Perhaps in another,
hurdy-gurdy parallel universe...."

    +-+-+-+-+-+
    |N  "Reality is the illusion caused by the lack of
    |       sex and hard liquor"
    |           -friend


Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 03:08:12 -0400
From: Brendon Macaraeg (bqm1808@IS.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Kitchens of Distinction on tour!


HI all:
The Kitchens of Distinction are on tour in the US this month. Please support
a GREAT
band by going to see them if they come near you. Why  is that bands I love
get shafted by their labels? First Slowdive, now KoD....*sigh*........
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------



>       KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION ARE FINALLY TOURING THE US
>               TO SUPPORT "COWBOYS & ALIENS"
>
>  After Polygram delayed the US release of Cowboys & Aliens from October
>'94 to January '95 (promising maximum promotion after the "Christmas
>rush"), they have now virtually given up on supporting the album or
>Kitchens of Distinction.
>
>  Patrick, Dan and Julian have all been very anxious to return to America
>for a tour. Unfortunately they had to wait on the go ahead from Polygram
>and the tour support that a major label should provide. The tour was
>supposed to be rather extensive and happen after the LP came out (about
>February). But at long last it became apparent tour suport would not be
>given by Polygram.
>
>  What all this means is that Kitchens have had to take their tour or the
>US into their own hands. They'll be hauling their own equipment, driving
>their own van and paying their own way.
>
>  They can't wait to be back playing here live again. So GO SEE THEM!!
>Here are the dates:
>
>  May  15      Washington DC           9:30 Club
>       17      New York City           Tramps
>       18      Boston, MA              Paradise
>       19      Hoboken, NJ             Maxwell's
>       20      Philadelphia, PA        Khyberpass
>       22      Cleveland, OH           The Grog Shop
>       23      Pittsburgh, PA          Rosebud
>       24      Roseville, MI           The Ritz
>       25      Chicago, IL             Double Door
>       26      Milwaukee, WI           Unicorn
>       27      Minneapolis, MN         Fine Line Music Cafe
>       30      Portland                La Luna
>                               (supporting They Might Be Giants)
>       31      Seattle, WA             RKCNDY
>
> June   2      San Francisco, CA       Great American Music Hall
>        3      Santa Barbara, CA       Underground
>        5      Los Angeles, CA         The Roxy
>
>  Kitchens are working on new songs as we speak and will have shirts for
>sale at the shows. Hope you guys can make it.
>  By the way, I'm Robbie - I run their fan club, my friend Christine is
>broadcasting this to you as I am computer stupid. All thanks to her - and
>you can write me the old fashioned way:
>
>       Robbie/Kitchens of Distinction
>       P O Box 15137
>       Boston, MA 02215
>
>
>
=================================================
Brendon Macaraeg   I_ID      C O F F E E~A C H I E V E R~    I_ID
bqm1808@is.nyu.edu                               brendon355@aol.com
     http://www.itp.tsoa.nyu.edu/~student/brendonm/bmmhp.html
                 "Life is not a Point-And-Click Proposition"
=================================================

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 03:25:38 -0400
From: Carolyn Hughes (Pandaura@AOL.COM)
Subject: einexile


 In response to einexile:

> First, don't you think that he is entitled to write something else besides
> the usual DCD fare?


 >What does that have to do with it? Did someone say he should not have
been allowed to write it?

No, but you'd think by the way everyone has been carrying on that he should
be burned at the stake for writing something different. I didn't see any
positive responses at the time from any DCD "fans".

>Why do you keep referring to your post as a flame?

Because I was waiting for everyone to maul me like a pack of folk music
hating wolves for defending this music.

>Brendan's
voice is not crap and has never been crap. It is an amazing tool and he
has used it expertly on almost all of the DCD recordings.

I completely agree, but how many people were saying he sounded like Vedder or
burned out?


> Many of the songs he had written and
> performed were about a now broken romance that affected him quite deeply.

>No they aren't. They are not about anything. How difficult a concept is
it that when you string words together in a way that states nothing, you
have said something which is meaningless?

Just for the record,they are about someone, I know this for a fact. Just
because they mean nothing to you doesn't make it so. I guess that no one
wants to hear about anything with meaning when it comes to DCD; you must
prefer your lyrics obscured. This is his SOLO work, chill out. And before
anyone else jumps on me I mean literal, since most of the lyrics aren't a
real language.

> I find it quite painful to hear these songs, but I guess bearing your
> soul to the public will bring nothing but negativity.

>This is a cheap shot. As if all of our criticisms simply *must* be
motivated by resentment, embarrassment, and envy. There's no possible way
anyone can have a valid criticism of something so personal because it is
HIS SONG, is that it?

No, that is not what I was saying at all. What I was referring to was how
everyone was criticizing his"cheesy"  "self indulgent" whatever lyrics.
"American Dreaming" one of those "meaningless" songs was about someone he
loved and to hear someone attacking someonelses' memories was a bit too much
for me. But we aren't going to share the same outlook , and if you don't like
it's entertainment quality, I respect that , but when I hear it I like it for
completely different reasons.

>> And since when did accoustic have to mean Pearl Jam?

>Did anyone compare the instrumental style to Pearl Jam? For that matter,
does Eddie Vedder play an instrument?

AGAIN, there were so many Pearl Jam / Eddie Vedder comparisons from
everything to someone saying the new album sounded like Pearl Jam  to Brendan
sounded like Vedder that I  assumed that people were drawing the comparison
because it was accoustic . DCD could hardly ever be mistaken for Pearl Jam.

> What happened to the good songwriting such as Tim Buckley?

It's alive and well in both Pearl Jam and Brendan Perry

I totally agree, that was my point. I used Tim Buckley because Brendan
admires his work . As far as him having no rhythm, again you are entitled and
you have good arguments but I'd have to disagree after seeing him play the
dounbeck. He may not be perfect, but Brendan...I love him.

Thanks for the argument ....enough said don't you agree?
-Carolyn


Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 07:20:07 -0400
From: Jim Napiorkowski (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: DCD "TTW" ltd. ed. box set


I just received Dead Can Dance's "Toward the Within" ltd. ed. box set in the
mail with CD and video.

As I went to go play the video, everything became distorted in an odd way the
i had never seen before.

i played the tape on a friend's VCR and it did the same thing.

Disappointed, I'm about to mail it back to 4AD-UK,...
but I was beginning to wonder... could it be because it is recorded in the
European format (PAL i think)?????
Has anyone else encountered this problem?
Funny, I never, and still don't have a problem with my "Lonely is an Eyesore"
video, which also was manufactured in the UK.

Ideas?
-BBK

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:37:07 BST
From: Yellow Submarine (ma3tjw@BATH.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: To Kill A Dead Man


> Yes, "To Kill a Dead Man" is a short trailer made by Portishead themselves.
>  I think it was only aired in Britain (which kind of makes it hard for me

Apparently projected onto the MI6 building, London on Valentines day.
Cool eh?
YS.

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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:10:21 -0400
From: "Lisa R. Chong" (yku00471@YORKU.CA)
Subject: dcd and BP for the last time (was Re: einexile)


On May 5,  3:25am, Carolyn Hughes wrote:
>  >What does that have to do with it? Did someone say he should not have
>> been allowed to write it?
> No, but you'd think by the way everyone has been carrying on that he should
> be burned at the stake for writing something different. I didn't see any
> positive responses at the time from any DCD "fans".

        uh- snarky comments like that really piss me off sometimes. You're
basically suggesting that all dcd "fans" are not entitled to criticize the
work of dcd, unless it's good criticism, and dcd fans must be blindly
devoted; and if they hear stuff that they don't think (in their minds) is up
to par (given the high standards that dcd sets), then they just have to shut
up and bear it...

Lisa.
who is totally embarassed because she figured out why she was getting that
"no carrier" message all the time.

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:18:18 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@EMAIL.PSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: numbah 1) it's not because of warren...


In message Mon, 1 May 1995 13:19:38 CST,
  Larry Koch   writes:


>>  uhm...ask *j* why toronto is so koolio.
>
> Er, I can probably come up with reasons. And I don't know *j*.
> Besides, questions bad. Vagueness good.
>

Yes you do?  I'm *j*!!!  Stoopid! :)


>>  grasshopper is in livonia and i'm cricket, y'see, and we'll be
>>  making lots of noise and an unholy racket and maybe we'll record
> it      >  all and scare you with it someday...
> ^^^^^
> I doubt that :)

I don't think you quite understand...

>
>>  j can make noise, but he'd rather sit back and watch. i don't know
>>  anyone in mercury rev.
>
> It's probably better that way. The (ex-)singer once threatened me...

He's the Ex-singer... Not Grasshopper.

    -jOHN suffering from frozen fingers and toes

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:20:14 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@EMAIL.PSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: sillypromogoodiesofthemoon


In message Wed, 3 May 1995 15:50:48 -0600,
  BIGstirringofbirdsEYES   writes:

> ....the latest supersilly promo trinket arrived at our radio station
> recently:
>
> an apple, spraypainted silver with a laika sticker attached to it.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!
ME!  if'n you still have it.

     -jOHN (hungry)




>
> okay, who wants this??? i mean, you better write to me fast before it
> rots or something. :)
>
> amazing how we get stuff like this but we never get superadvanced copies
> of anything.  it's just not fair....*tweepout*
>
> .munchmunch.
> .mark.
>

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 05:40:01 -0700
From: "though it seemed hardly possible, the black doll had indeed rown hands"
Subject: Re: DCD "TTW" ltd. ed. box set


>Disappointed, I'm about to mail it back to 4AD-UK,...
>but I was beginning to wonder... could it be because it is recorded in the
>European format (PAL i think)?????
>Has anyone else encountered this problem?
>Funny, I never, and still don't have a problem with my "Lonely is an Eyesore"
>video, which also was manufactured in the UK.

Yes, you are pretty much right.
Everything I've ever read or heard about the TTW box set always said that
it would include only PAL copies of the video (not designed for export.)
The copies of LIAE you're likely to find in the US have a little sticker
saying NTSC on them (designed for export to the US or Japan or wherever)

Those kind of things are good questions to ask on the list. You must
have missed the time, whenever it was, it was talked about.

If you can, it would be easiest to get a copy of the (NTSC) video at
the store for ~$20. Or if you have a brother or friend who works in the
media center at a school they can transfer it from PAL for you maybe,
but the quality wouldn't be quite as good.

-n


Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 09:56:42 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@EMAIL.PSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs


In message Thu, 4 May 1995 14:11:12 CST,
  Larry Koch   writes:

>>  "Slowdive" (the eponymous song, and two versions of "Avalyn") and
>>  "Morningrise" are the first two EPs, and are absolutely essential
>>  if you like Slowdive.  The third one, "Holding Our Breath", is
> less      >  good.
>
> Holding Our Breath is still pretty amazing though. After all, it has
> "Albatross" on it, and besides, I've never understood why people
> thought "Morningrise" (the song) itself was so great. But to each his
> own.
>

All three EP's are essential.  There is no "weaker" ep.

>>  All three are on the compilation "Blue Day", except for the long
>>  instrumental "Avalyn 2" and "Golden Hair" from the third EP (don't
>>  know why these were left off, as there is plenty of room for
> them).
> Yes - if you're going to compile non-album material, why not all of
> it?

"Golden Hair" is a cover of a Syd Barret song, and as most of you already
know, "AVALYN II" is just "AVALYN I" w/o lyrics.
The Cd was intended for the european and Asian market, or something like
that.  Guess they wanted to make it short and sweet.  Maybe they had some
problem w/ the cover song... who knows.


> If you look around a bit you can find the limited 2CD edition of
> Souvlaki which includes Blue Day.

I've only seen this once, and it was a friend who had it.  Can't imagine you
could find it anywhere anymore...  Who'd sell it?
BLUE DAY is better by itself than in 2CD package...

> Larry, who has no intention of being a cutie pie when he grows up
>
too late, yr such a cutie Larry!

    -jOHN cute as pie (just ask the high school girlies that follow me
          around)

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 09:08:38 CDT
From: Jonny Quest (jonnyq@DATATEK.COM)
Subject: Re: Kitchens of Distinction on tour!


curses! curses! none of the good bands come to nashville.

i have to agree that KOD is a _great_ band.  i think that 'death of cool'
would have to be one of my ten desert island discs.

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 10:37:00 EST
From: "rex c. arthur" (arthur@3SIXTY.VOYAGERCO.COM)
Subject: port-a-potty-head


if you go to see them live, which you definitely should, they show the film
before they come out on stage. it's about 12 minutes. not terribly
interesting and sort of confusing. THEY on the other hand are amazing live.
if you're thinking of going... do it. you will be very surprised and
pleased.

>> Yes, "To Kill a Dead Man" is a short trailer made by Portishead themselves.
>>  I think it was only aired in Britain

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:46:00 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: 4AD/Warner Bros. promo CD's/cassettes


Hi,

I'm trying to compile a list of all US 4AD 'PRO-CD' promo CD's and 'PRO-C'=
=20
promo cassettes issued via Warner Bros. since 1992.

For this first list I'm only interested in stuff by Air Miami, Heidi Berry,=
=20
Michael Brook, Dead Can Dance, Lisa Gerrad, The Glee Club, Lisa Germano, His=
=20
Name Is Alive, Insides, Licorice, Pale Saints, Red House Painters, Kendra=20
Smith, Spirea X, Swallow, This Mortal Coil, Unrest, Wolfgang Press, as well=
=20
as the various compilations (except 'Lilliput' and '...And Dog Bones Too..'=
=20
since they were manufactured in England).

Bands and artists that are NOT part of 4AD's label-deal with Warner Bros.,=
=20
but have/had separate deals with Warner Bros. or other labels (Belly, Frank=
=20
Black, The Breeders, Kristin Hersh, Lush, Pixies, Throwing Muses, Ultra=20
Vivid Scene) will be featured in a second list, that I'll try to make some=
=20
time later.

Important note: I don't intend to include all the 'advance copy' or 'promo=
=20
copy' CD's that are merely the full albums with regular cat. numbers and=20
slightly adapted (or no) artwork. However, when you think that a certain=20
'advance copy' CD should be included because it has spectacular artwork=20
(like the digipaks for Dead Can Dance, Heidi Berry and Lisa Germano) or=20
something, please let me know.=20

Any additions, corrections etc. are welcome!! But please mail them to me via=
=20
private e-mail. I've skipped the tracklists of the compilations and=20
samplers, but I'll include them in the definite list. As soon as I think=20
that the list is 'finished'  I''ll mail it to the 4AD-L.


Here we go:

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

HEIDI BERRY 'Distant Thunder' (PRO-CD 6544) 1993
1. Distant Thunder (Album Version)
2. Zither Song (Non-Album Track)
3. You Upset The Grace Of Living When You Lie (Non-Album Track)
4. Gloria (From The UK album 'Love')
4AD custom-design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

HEIDI BERRY 'The Moon And The Sun' (PRO-CD-????) 1993
1. The Moon And The Sun (????)
- no furher information -


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

DEAD CAN DANCE 'The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove' (PRO-CD 6523) 1993
1. The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove (Edit)
2. The Wind That Shakes The Barley (Album Version)
3. The Spider's Strategem (Album Version)
4. The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove (Album Version)
4AD custom-design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

DEAD CAN DANCE 'The Carnival Is Over' (PRO-CD 6700) 1993
1. The Carnival Is Over (Edit)
2. The Carnival Is Over (Album Version)
WB-design back sleeve. No insert. Orange 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

DEAD CAN DANCE 'Dead Can Dance' (PRO-CD 6805) 1994
13-track compilation, in cardboard sleeve, with tracks from all six DCD=20
albums, released to coincide with debut US-release of the first five DCD=20
albums, February-March 1994.
Sleeve features 'saldek' picture from the 'Into The Labyrinth' CD-booklet'.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

DEAD CAN DANCE 'Dead Can Dance' (PRO-CD 6822) 1994
5xCD boxset including regular US copies 'Dead Can Dance',  'Spleen And=20
Ideal', 'Within The Realm Of A Dying Sun' ,  The Serpents Egg' and  'Aion'.
Issued to coincide with the debut US-release of the first five DCD albums.
cardboard box features (xerox copied?) pictures of the album sleeves, =E0 la=
=20
the cover of the 4AD Mail Order catalogue.



+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

LISA GERMANO 'Puppet' (PRO-CD 6848) 1994
1. Puppet (Radio Edit)
4AD custom-design back sleeve. No insert. Blue 300-500 label.

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

LISA GERMANO 'Puppet' (PRO-CD ????) 1994
1. Stars (????)
- no further information -


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +


LISA GERMANO 'Cry Wolf' (PRO-CD 7347) 1995
1. Cry Wolf (Edit)
2. The Mirror Is Gone
3. Cancer Of Everything (Remix)
4. Sexy Litle Princess (Remix)
- no further information -


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

HIS NAME IS ALIVE 'In Every Ford' (PRO-CD 6069) 1993
1. In Every Ford
2. Lip
3. Drink, Dress, And Ink
4. Can't Go Wrong Without You
5. The Dirt Eaters
4AD custom-design back sleeve. No insert. Blue 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

PALE SAINTS 'Blue Flower' (PRO-CD ????) 1992
1. Blue Flower (Edit)
2. ????
- no further Information -=20


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

PALE SAINTS 'Throwing Back The Apple' (PRO-CD ????) 1992
1. Throwing Back The Apple (Album Version)
2. ????
- no further Information -=20


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

PALE SAINTS 'Fine Friend' (PRO-CD ????) 1994
1. Fine Friend (Album Version)
2. One Blue Hill (Live From KCRW 89.9 FM)
3. Marimba (Non-Album Track)
- no further Information -=20


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

PALE SAINTS 'Angel (Will You Be Me)' (PRO-CD ????) 199?
1. Angel (Will You Be Me) (?? Version)
2. ????
- no further information -

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

PALE SAINTS 'Henry' (PRO-CD ????) 199?
1. Henry (Album Version)
2. One Blue Hill (Album Version)
- no further information -


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

RED HOUSE PAINTERS 'Mistress' (PRO-CD 6108) 1993
1. Mistress (Remix)
2. Grace Cathedral Park (Album Version)
3. Strawberry Hill (Album Version)
4. Mistress (Piano Version)
4AD custom-design back sleeve. No insert. Blue 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

RED HOUSE PAINTERS 'I Am A Rock' (PRO-CD 6498) 1993
1. I Am A Rock (Edit)
4AD custom-design back sleeve. No insert. Blue 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

RED HOUSE PAINTERS '4 Tracks From Ocean Beach' (PRO-C ????) 1995
1. San Geronimo
2. ??
3. Summer Dress
4. Cabezon
- no further information - Is this an official 4AD promo tape or not?


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

RED HOUSE PAINTERS 'Summer Dress' (PRO-CD 7474) 1995
1. Summer Dress (Album Version)
2. San Geronimo (Edit)
- no further information -


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

SPIREA X 'Speed Reaction' (PRO-CD ????) 1992
1. Speed Reaction (Album Version)
- no further information -


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

THIS MORTAL COIL 'This Mortal Coil' (PRO-CD 5876) 1993
12-track sampler, in digipak, for the limited edition 4xCD boxset (45135-2).
Front cover features picture that was used in the booklet that came with the=
=20
4xCD boxset (page 24).


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

THIS MORTAL COIL/VARIOUS '5 Selected Originals' (PRO-CD 6333)
1. TIM BUCKLEY - Song To The Siren
2. RAIN PARADE - Carolyn's Song
3. BIG STAR - Kangaroo=20
4. ROY HARPER - Another Day
5. CHRIS BELL - You And Your Sister
4AD custom-design back sleeve. No insert. Blue 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

UNREST 'Cath Carroll' (PRO-CD 6787) 1993
1. Cath Carroll (Radio Edit)
2. Cath Carroll (Acoustic Version)
3. So Sick (Acoustic Version)
4. Where Are All Those Puerto Rican Boys? (Non-Album Track)
5. Hydro (Non-Album Track)
4AD custom-design back sleeve. No insert. Blue 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

UNREST 'Make Out Club'  (PRO-CD ????) 1993
1. Make Out Club (Remix)
2. ??
- no further information -


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

THE WOLFGANG PRESS 'Mama Told Me Not To Come' (PRO-CD 5753) 1992
1. Mama Told Me Not To Come (7" Mix)
2. Mama Told Me Not To Come (All Night Up)
3. Mama Told Me Not To Come (Go Back)
4AD custom-design back sleeve. No insert. Blue 300-500 label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

THE WOLFGANG PRESS 'A Girl Like You' (PRO-CD ????) 1992
1. A Girl Like You (?? Version)
2. ??
- no further information -=20


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

THE WOLFGANG PRESS 'Going South' (PRO-CD 7174) 1995
1. Going South (Single Version)
2. Going South (Album Version)
3. Going South (@440 Mix)
4AD custom-design back sleeve. No insert. Yellow & red TWP label.


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

THE WOLFGANG PRESS 'Christianity' (PRO-CD 7468) 1995
1. Christianity (Album Version)
2. Christianity (Wicked Man Remix)
3. Love Will Surface
4. Christianity (Instrumental)
- no further information -=20


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

VARIOUS 'Mai Pen Rai' (PRO-CD 6055) 1993
12-track 'Spring 1993' retail sampler in elaborate carboard sleeve designed=
=20
by and printed at Independent Project (8 different colour combinations).


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20

VARIOUS 'No Balls' (PRO-CD 7300) 1995
8-track promo/freebie sampler in cardboard sleeve (same design as 4AD 1994=
=20
X-Mas card).


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +=20


Frank
++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 10:49:44 -0400
From: Paul Horton (Hrtn@AOL.COM)
Subject: 4AD News in UHF


I just got a promo copy of a magazine called UHF and on the back cover is a
full color ad from 4AD announcing their 1995 catalogue :

Kendra Smith - enough info has been posted already, nothing new.

The Breeders - Pacer

Liquorice - Listening Cap (members of Tsunami, HNIA, and Ida)

Lisa Gerrard - The Mirror Pool (US tour in the fall!)

Tarnation (new signing from San Francisco)

Air Miami (ex-Unrest)

Scheer (new EP from Belfast)

Heidi Berry (new album)



Nice v23 graphics too.................. Paul

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:18:47 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: 4AD News in UHF


>I just got a promo copy of a magazine called UHF and on the back cover is a
>full color ad from 4AD announcing their 1995 catalogue :


What kind of magazine is UHF? Is it American or British? And which issue?

Frank
++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++


Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:13:15 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: Innocence Mission


Iceblink writes:
>I've never really felt that The Innocence Mission had a very unique sound,
>as it all was somehow reminiscent of either Cocteau Twins, The Sundays, or
>someone else.  Not that it's bad, though.  I really enjoyed "Umbrella",
>mainly because a lot of it reminds me of "Blue Bell Knoll"...

Hmm, I'd put them a bit higher on the originality scale than the Sundays, who
stayed a bit too close to a mixture of Cocteaux and early Smiths. (Not that I
don't love the 1st Sundays album to death, yunnerstan.) "Umbrella" clearly
owes a heavy dept to the Cocteaux, but I always feel that they're taking
certain vocal and guitar techniques and using them in ways that Robin and Liz
would never have done ... and I must say that Karen can show Liz a thing or
two (or a million) about how to write intelligible lyrics. If you're going to
sing such that people can understand you, write something genuinely poetic*
rather than stringing together phrases out of self-help books.

"Umbrella" remains one of my very favorite Cocteaux-inspired albums, and I'll
certainly go pick up their new EP as soon as I see it.

Jens Alfke ________ OpenDoc Geometer _______ jens_alfke@powertalk.apple.com

              Zachary Taylor was a Barosaurus and, at 89 feet,
                  was possibly our longest President ever.

* Indeed, their lyrics are so good that I can easily forgive the heavy Xtian
content. There are _very_ few bands I can say that of.

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 09:14:38 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs


>     If you look around a bit you can find the limited 2CD edition of
>     Souvlaki which includes Blue Day. So, basically, you can buy
anything,
>     secure in the knowledge that it will be good. Hell, buy all of
them.

do you know where i can this????? i have been looking for it since
Souvlaki came out! i have all of the ep's as well as "blue Day." i also
have the full lengths and Souvlaki w/o the four extra songs, but i
would love to have this 2CD set!!! if anyone can help me, it would be
greatly appreciated! thank you!

                                    -robert.

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:17:45 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs


King of the Monsters!  writes:
> I have all three Slowdive Full-lengths, but no EPs, can somebody out
> there recommend some to me?

You must get the first EP, "Slowdive / Avalyn / Avalyn 2", which is the best
thing they've ever done, except maybe for some of "Pygmalion". Back in early
'91 I used to listen to this on auto-repeat for hours at a time ... and it's
only 18 minutes long ...

My beef with everything between the first and latest EP is that they dumped on
too many guitar effects and too much production. The sparseness of their
original and current sound suits them much better, I think.

Jens Alfke ________ OpenDoc Geometer _______ jens_alfke@powertalk.apple.com

              Zachary Taylor was a Barosaurus and, at 89 feet,
                  was possibly our longest President ever.

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:29:18 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: Stereolab lyrics


>>with Stereolab, there's some pretty  intelligent political stuff being
>>discussed.

Rex Arthur quotes some dumb lyrics and concludes:
>sorry. i'm just super-critical and i love a good argument. stereolab is one
>of my favorite bands, but honestly i do feel the need to occassionally
>tune out the vocals. sorry to always disagree.

Granted that many of their lyrics are just a few lines of stuff; but how about
"Laissez-Faire" from the "Low-Fi" EP:

It will come to us as a shock / but we're letting it happen
People with their carelessness / governments with their laissez-faire
Are going to lead us straight to it / that's for sure
History will only repeat itself once more
The western world is going more and more right wing
Yearning for some kind of perfection, too scared to do anything
Not to take the path that's dragging us down, oh no
Remember it's in our power not to go down
I can feel it more and more:
Within ten years we'll have a war


And all the lyrics from "Peng!" are pretty amazing. "Surrealchemist":

Even more than philosophers
Aiming at no less than the total transformation of man and the world
Begin with the dissolution of superfluous matters
So that desire and consciousness are free
Noew man new woman proud and free
New man new woman happy to be
True life embodying pleasure principle's noblest triumph
Over the cowering mendacity of bourgeois Christian civilization


Alchemical Situationist Marxism ... Gotta love it.

Jens Alfke ________ OpenDoc Geometer _______ jens_alfke@powertalk.apple.com

              Zachary Taylor was a Barosaurus and, at 89 feet,
                  was possibly our longest President ever.

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:25:22 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs

              5, 95 09:14:38 am

Robert Pietrusko  wrote:
>
>> If you look around a bit you can find the limited 2CD edition of
>> Souvlaki which includes Blue Day. So, basically, you can buy anything,
>> secure in the knowledge that it will be good. Hell, buy all of them.
>
> do you know where i can this????? i have been looking for it since
> Souvlaki came out! i have all of the ep's as well as "blue Day." i also
> have the full lengths and Souvlaki w/o the four extra songs, but i
> would love to have this 2CD set!!! if anyone can help me, it would be
> greatly appreciated! thank you!

I can't think why you would want it - the double-CD edition was simply
the standard UK "Souvlaki" in one of those double-CD standard-width
boxes, with the CD of "Blue Day" on the back of the tray.  No extra
artwork, or anything.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 05/05/95
On my walkman this morning : John Cale - Fragments of a Rainy Season
Find also in the sound a thought,

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:19:17 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Re[4]: numbah 1) it's not because of warren...


     >  >>  uhm...ask *j* why toronto is so koolio. >
     >  > Er, I can probably come up with reasons. And I don't know *j*.
     > >  Besides, questions bad. Vagueness good.
     >

     >  Yes you do?  I'm *j*!!!  Stoopid! :)

     Doh! Well, I kinda thought so, but I wasn't sure. Anyway, I read your
     reasons why Toronto is indeed koolio. The only way it could be
     koolio-er would be if they didn't stop serving at 1 am.


     >  >>  grasshopper is in livonia and i'm cricket, y'see, and we'll be
     >  >>  making lots of noise and an unholy racket and maybe we'll
     >  record > it      >  all and scare you with it someday...
     >                              ^^^^^
     >  > I doubt that :)

     >  I don't think you quite understand...

     What's not to understand? Noise does not scare me, although it
     sometimes bores me. You think I don't know from noise?


     >  >>  j can make noise, but he'd rather sit back and watch. i don't
     >  know >>  anyone in mercury rev.

     >  > It's probably better that way. The (ex-)singer once threatened
     >  >  me...

     >  He's the Ex-singer... Not Grasshopper.

     I didn't say that, but...what*EVER*

        Larry, considering a rewarding career with the Gap


Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:44:07 EDT
From: Renee Bessette (RBES3493@URIACC.URI.EDU)
Subject: Red Pressure Mounting

              5 May 1995 00:00:59 -0500 from 

Does anyone know if the film _Red Pressure Mounting_ is available on video?
if so, where could I find it?
                 Renee

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:49:00 EST
From: "rex c. arthur" (arthur@3SIXTY.VOYAGERCO.COM)
Subject: Re: Stereolab lyrics


>Granted that many of their lyrics are just a few lines of stuff;
>Jens Alfke

this is good discussion. i have to admit i sometimes don't listen to their
lyrics as much as i should, so i can miss some of the more intelligent
stuff. my attention is focused on their music, because (to me) that is what
really sets them apart from other bands. but unfortunately i tend to notice
the lyrics more when they're "not so great" my friend christina said to me
last wk end.... "you know they'll do this 8 minute song and you'll think
that there are all these different verses but when you look at the lyrics
you see that there are only like 3 lines that she's singing over and over.
she just changes the notes and it sounds like she's singing different
stuff. ----sorry christina if this isn't exactly what you said but i was
pretty baked when you said it.

i think this is a pretty funny observation. and it's kinda true.

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:48:31 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: stereolab


     >  >with Stereolab, there's some pretty  intelligent political stuff
     >  >  being discussed.
     >
     >  >Larry.

     >  and i quote...

     >  "don't worry be happy, things will get better naturally, dom dom
     >  dom..."-ping pong

     >  "change la la la la la la la"-change  (and this one's in french to
     >  boot)

     Well, I didn't say it was *always* intelligent political stuff, just
     as it isn't *always* pop fluff. Often it's both. Anyway, the pop
     melodies and the "lalala"s are often there to make the political
     message a little subtler. You know, a spoonful of sugar...

     Kent was quite right when he said:

     >  Actually Ping Pong is a marxist critique/rant against capitalism,
     >  and the line you quoted is them "quoting" the capitalist.

     Exactly. The line after that is something like "shut up, sit down, be
     happy" and elsewhere in the song there's something about economic
     cycles leading inevitably to war. If you really want political stuff,
     there seems to be more of it on Peng!, esp. "Surrealchemist", which is
     a discourse on the "cowering mendacity of bourgeois-christian
     civilisation".

     >  sorry. i'm just super-critical and i love a good argument.

     Don't we all :)

     Larry, dans la solitude morne de son bureau

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 13:19:16 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Re[2]: Stereolab lyrics


     Jens:
     >  Granted that many of their lyrics are just a few lines of stuff;
     >  but how about "Laissez-Faire" from the "Low-Fi" EP:

     [snip]

     >  The western world is going more and more right wing
     >  Yearning for some kind of perfection, too scared to do anything Not
     >  to take the path that's dragging us down, oh no
     >  Remember it's in our power not to go down I can feel it more and
     >  more:Within ten years we'll have a war
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     I was going to quote that in my previous post but I couldn't remember
     which song on the EP it was from.

     >  And all the lyrics from "Peng!" are pretty amazing.
     >  "Surrealchemist":

     [sniiip!]

     >  True life embodying pleasure principle's noblest triumph
     >  Over the cowering mendacity of bourgeois Christian civilization

     's funny - I mentioned Peng! and the last line of Surrealchemist as
     well. Great minds, huh Jens? 

     Larry, feeling well pleased w/himself

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:24:19 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Joy Division Tribute


>After playing "Love Will Tear Us Apart," a local DJ confirmed a
>Joy Div tribute disc mentioning Mazzy Star and Smashing Pumpkins.
>Unfortunately, All she said about a release date was "pretty
>soon." Its tough being patient sometimes.

Yes, the Joy Division Tribute includes the two above as well as (GASP,
CHOKE, SPUTTER)  The Motherfucking Red Hot Chili Peppers.  Sorry ladies and
gents, but I may have to hear this one first.

Later,

Eric E. Wittmershaus
eewittme@students.wisc.edu
eric.wittmershaus@mail.admin.wisc.edu

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 19:26:14 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: say hello to the smurfs


On my grass-mower this morning: Father Abraham 'The Smurf Song' CD
He is all over the place now (the smurf, not Father Abraham onfortunately)

Frank


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brink2@xs4all.nl
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 13:11:03 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Re[2]: Slowdive EPs


     Andrew:

     >  I can't think why you would want it [Souvlaki+Blue Day]

     Because Blue Day by itself is somewhat harder to find now?

     jOHN:

     >  I've only seen this once, and it was a friend who had it.  Can't
     >  imagine you could find it anywhere anymore...  Who'd sell it?
     >  BLUE DAY is better by itself than in 2CD package...
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     How can that make a difference? Admittedly, the stuff doesn't go with
     Souvlaki (mmm...souvlaki) very well, but you don't have to listen to
     them together. The Souvlaki with the 5EP stuff tacked on at the end -
     now that's a bad match.

     >  > Larry, who has no intention of being a cutie pie when he grows up

     >  too late, yr such a cutie Larry!

     Yeahyeah, I know

     >  -jOHN cute as pie (just ask the high school girlies that follow me
     >  around)

     Er, I'm not even going to comment on that, except... Anyone see
     Friends last night?

        Larry, who never thought he'd be one of those people who put the
                        garbage out wearing their bathrobes

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:50:58 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Spoonfed Hybrid and more!


>     Spoonfed Hybrid 7"? What's on it? Is it also on CD? I wish there were
>     more SH stuff...
>
>     Larry, still waiting to hear ESP Summer

The 7" came free with the vinyl Spoonfed Hybrid S/T.  It's not available on
CD (except maybe on a Japanese version, see the Eyesore Data Base).  The
songs on it are "Bullets and Bees" and "Messers Hyde" (I think, I don't
have it with me, and since I haven't a record player at college, I've only
listened to it once.
If you like Spoonfed Hybrid, though, it's worth paying the extra cash just
to get the 7".  It's really damn good.  The two songs are on the front, and
it's got a weird Greek message on the back.  Does anyone know what the hell
it says????!!!!

ESP Summer, I'm told, is avail from Warren Defaver on cassette.  Jason told
me this the other day.  If you want the address, e-mail me, and I'll
forward it to you.

Does anyone know what Ian Masters is doing these days?  I like all he's
done (well, what I've heard, which is just about everything but ESP
Summer.)

For the record, my current desert island CDs:

Boo Radleys:  Giant Steps
Pale Saints:  In Ribbons (or Comforts, it's a toss-up, but why not both?)
        MBV, and a host of others.)

Eric E. Wittmershaus
eewittme@students.wisc.edu
eric.wittmershaus@mail.admin.wisc.edu

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:01:00 PDT
From: "Patrick D. Oltraver" (seraphim@CTS.COM)
Subject: Mrs. Dolphin for RHP


        I have a copy Of Mrs. Dolphin by the Pale Saints on CD.  I want A
copy of both Rollercoater and Down Colourful Hill by the RHP.  Any Takers?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------
It  worries me this kind of thing         ^^^^^        seraphim@cts.com
How we hope to live alone          ------   Patrick D. Oltraver
And occupy our waking hours        /\/\/\/\/\/\     Manoeuvering Orchestrally
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 14:07:00 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@EMAIL.PSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive EPs


In message Fri, 5 May 1995 13:11:03 CST,
  Larry Koch   writes:

> Andrew:
>
>>  I can't think why you would want it [Souvlaki+Blue Day]
>
> Because Blue Day by itself is somewhat harder to find now?

Nah-uh!   I don't think so.  I've seen multiple copies of Blue Day in
Cleveland over the last few months.

> jOHN:
>
>>  I've only seen this once, and it was a friend who had it.  Can't
>>  imagine you could find it anywhere anymore...  Who'd sell it?
>>  BLUE DAY is better by itself than in 2CD package...
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> How can that make a difference? Admittedly, the stuff doesn't go with
> Souvlaki (mmm...souvlaki) very well, but you don't have to listen to
> them together.

The packaging on BLUE DAY is really coolio.  PLus you get a picture of the
band (faint, though) with Rachel looking all cute, and the rest of the guys
smiling, plus lyrics to the songs.  Yr best bet though is to just get all 3
ep's individually, if you can still find them.

> The Souvlaki with the 5EP stuff tacked on at the end -
> now that's a bad match.

Awww, the 5ep stuff is so nice.

>
>>  > Larry, who has no intention of being a cutie pie when he grows
> up
>>  too late, yr such a cutie Larry!
>
> Yeahyeah, I know

Hey baby, come to bevis.

>
>>  -jOHN cute as pie (just ask the high school girlies that follow me
>>  around)
>
> Er, I'm not even going to comment on that, except... Anyone see
> Friends last night?
>

Hey, it's not my fault!

> Larry, who never thought he'd be one of those people who put the
> garbage out wearing their bathrobes
>

Now, thats *not* what cutie pies do Larry!

    -jOHN about to leave 4AD-L until late June

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 14:01:44 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@EMAIL.PSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Re[4]: numbah 1) it's not because of warren...


In message Fri, 5 May 1995 12:19:17 CST,
  Larry Koch   writes:

>>  Yes you do?  I'm *j*!!!  Stoopid! :)
>
> Doh! Well, I kinda thought so, but I wasn't sure. Anyway, I read your
> reasons why Toronto is indeed koolio. The only way it could be
> koolio-er would be if they didn't stop serving at 1 am.
>

They stop serving in America at 2:00... at least in PENNSYLVANIA.

>>  >>  grasshopper is in livonia and i'm cricket, y'see, and we'll be
>>  >>  making lots of noise and an unholy racket and maybe we'll
>>  record > it      >  all and scare you with it someday...
>>                              ^^^^^
>>  > I doubt that :)
>
>>  I don't think you quite understand...
>
> What's not to understand? Noise does not scare me, although it
> sometimes bores me. You think I don't know from noise?
>

The idea of kelli and co. running around, smashing their heads against the
wall, playing their instruments with hammers, and giving praise to Gorzak is
kinda frightening to even me...  It's not *just* the noise.

> Larry, considering a rewarding career with the Gap
>
  Right next to Henery Rollins and Marky Mark!

     -jOHN, considering a rewarding career sleeping in bed

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 14:36:43 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@EMAIL.PSU.EDU)
Subject: goodbye, goodbye, I'll miss you!


Ok.  Since noone is on the list, I might as well send my dear jOHN letter.
Farewell dear list.  We will meet again, later in life.

Goodbye to my friends, and also to everyone that hates me.  No hard
feelings.

Eat lots of rice.  Drink lots of grape juice.  Sleep 2 hours a day.
Take mind altering substances before playing in yr band, if yr straight
edge, then eat a bag of skittles (the 2lb ones).

Remember that if yr hair is too long, then someone might mistake you for a
hippy.  If yr clothes are too baggy, someone might mistake you for a raver.
If you have a comb in yr back pocket, a can of skoal in yr other back
pocket, and dirt all over yr body from fixing yr trans am, someone might
mistake you for white trash.  Avoid tye-dyes at all costs.

Listen to HNIA, Moonshake, Disco Inferno, Slowdive and Medicine daily.

Send all cash contributions to:

buy jOHN an 8-track mini-studio
c/o
jOHN yOCHIM
7668 Fairlane Drive
Fairview, PA 16415

$800 more bucks to go!

Bye Bye kids


Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:04:22 +0059
From: Michael K Curry (mcurry@WORLD.STD.COM)
Subject: Re: EMERGENCY TWGP


   I think I heard that the Boston TWP (w/ Suddenly, Tammy!) date is 5/23 at
the Paradise... so you might want to call the Paradise and ask them about
it. :)

Mike


Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:13:44 -0400
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: EMERGENCY TWGP


<<<<

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:48:05 MDT
From: BWILLIAMS (BWILLIAMS@LIBRARY.CSF.EDU)
Subject: my $0.02


    OK...

    1) I've always though that Perry's voice on "Ulysses" from _The
_Serpent's_Egg_ sounded like Neil Diamond.
    2) Four-Calendar Cafe wasn't so bad... Yes, it's inconsistent,
overly bright, it doesn't really go anywhere, and would have been
better if we couldn't understand what she was saying, but at least
it... uh... never mind. (but, being an indiscriminate CT fan, I
listen to it here and there anyway)
    3) _Silver_Apples... reminds me of _When_I_Was_A_Boy_.
    4) The opening moments of "My Finest Hour" from
_Reading,_Writing,_and_Arithmetic_ and "Fotzepolitic" from HOLV are
uncannily similar.
    5) Dave Barry tells me that if you scramble up the letters in
Spiro Agnew (Nixon's Vice President)'s name, you get "grow a penis."
    6) Why do all the employees at all the best record stores I go to
have to be complete dicks?

    "sleigh bells ring, are you listening?"


Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:01:51 -0500
From: Lee Graham Bridges (s989790@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU)
Subject: WANTED: DCD's WTROADS.


Does anybody have a copy of Within the Realm of a Dying Sun by DCD on CD,
that they want to cash in on?  (dumb question, I know.)  Doesn't have to be
in good condition, just playable without skips.  Please e-mail me.  And, [a
non-4ad request] when does Joy Division's "Permanent" come out in the US and
is it another greatest hits, or a tribute album with various artists?  Thanks!

s989790@umslvma.umsl.edu

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:13:56 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@GXL.WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: Innocence Mission


---from Jens Alfke:

> Iceblink writes:
> >I've never really felt that The Innocence Mission had a very unique
> >sound, as it all was somehow reminiscent of either Cocteau Twins, The
> >Sundays, or someone else.  Not that it's bad, though.  I really
> >enjoyed "Umbrella", mainly because a lot of it reminds me of "Blue
> >Bell Knoll"...

Oh fer chrissakes...whatever...

> Hmm, I'd put them a bit higher on the originality scale...  "Umbrella"
> clearly owes a heavy dept to the Cocteaux, but I always feel that
> they're taking certain vocal and guitar techniques and using them in
> ways that Robin and Liz would never have done...

This comparison is *sooooo* tired, and IMHO, not terribly valid.  If a
band has a female vocalist and a non-"rawk" sound, why does this
automatically mean that the Cocteau Twins have come into play somewhere
along the line?  Frankly, I would be surprised if they'd heard the
Cocteaus at all before, say, _Four-Calendar_Cafe_.

> and I must say that Karen can show Liz a thing or two (or a million)
> about how to write intelligible lyrics. If you're going to sing such
> that people can understand you, write something genuinely poetic
> rather than stringing together phrases out of self-help books.
> Indeed, their lyrics are so good that I can easily forgive the heavy
> Xtian content. There are _very_ few bands I can say that of.

On this, I must agree wholeheartedly, both on Jens' assessment of Liz's
lyrics  and his feelings on those of Karen Peris.  She is truly
an amazing songwriter, and the only openly *Christian* one I can think of
whose songs don't make me want to instinctively gag.

> "Umbrella" remains one of my very favorite Cocteaux-inspired albums,
> and I'll certainly go pick up their new EP as soon as I see it.

Well, as Iceblink said, "Bright as Yellow" is a dead ringer for Mazzy
Star, which is quite unfortunate.  However, it's easily the, er, "least
good" of the four tracks on the EP.

---Jeremy  A: A nun with a spear through her
                                    head.

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:09:49 -0500
From: Lee Graham Bridges (s989790@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU)
Subject: TWEE?


Please forgive my inexperience with this list but WHAT THE HELL IS "TWEE"?

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:57:08 -0500
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Reply to my $0.02

              05 May 95 12:48:05 MDT" <2faa8df014bf002@cdshub.cdc.com>

>4) The opening moments of "My Finest Hour" from
>_Reading,_Writing,_and_Arithmetic_ and "Fotzepolitic" from HOLV are
>uncannily similar.

Granted this isn't very 4AD but the last two times I was
in my fav record shoppe, they were playing Pavement's
Wowee Zowee  and on comes the old song
"Soul Strut", done by I forget who or never knew, but
it is the same song... real original, Pavement


___________________________________________________________________
Kent J. Vanderwaal
kjv@aquarius1.cim.cdc.com
"gifted child, omoidashite yo"
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:20:57 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: TWEE?


On Fri, 5 May 1995, Lee Graham Bridges wrote:

> Please forgive my inexperience with this list but WHAT THE HELL IS "TWEE"?

uh-oh! this again....:)

twee is twee. it's kind of hard to explain.  twee is something that is
sickeninglysweet and gives you a massive attack of the warmfuzzies.
*k-j* is twee, and you better not dispute that(!).  to me, the little
tinkernoises on "a kissed out red float boat" are twee and eating
twizzlers and drinking slurpees with my girlfriend can make for a very
twee day.  ohhh.....and i don't care what you say, polar bear cubs are
veryvery twee!

                        .lostinthehummingair.
                                        .mark.



Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:24:39 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Fotzepolitic


.....to add to the this little cocteau titles discussion:

for those of you who don't know german (and if you don't you should go
learn it!)  'Fotzepolitic' means something to the effect of "cunt politics"

lovely, eh?  i probably just changed the meaning of that song for a lot
of people forever!  :)

                                .grossliebenaugen.
                                        .mark.

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:22:29 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Re[4]: Slowdive EPs


     >  > The Souvlaki with the 5EP stuff tacked on at the end -
     >  > now  that's a bad match.

     >  Awww, the 5ep stuff is so nice.

     Yeah, but it doesn't go with the Souvlaki stuff. Even the band thinks
     so.

     >  >>  > Larry, who has no intention of being a cutie pie when he
     >  >  grows up
     >  >>  too late, yr such a cutie Larry! >
     >  > Yeahyeah, I know

     >  Hey baby, come to bevis.

     No way, dude!


     >  >>  -jOHN cute as pie (just ask the high school girlies that follow
     >  me >>  around)
     >
     >  > Er, I'm not even going to comment on that, except... Anyone see >
     >  Friends last night?

     >  Hey, it's not my fault!

     *That*'ll stand up in court.

     >  > Larry, who never thought he'd be one of those people who put the
     >  > garbage out wearing their bathrobes
     >

     >  Now, thats *not* what cutie pies do Larry!

     Well then I guess that's a step in the right direction.

     >  -jOHN about to leave 4AD-L until late June

     (alison shaw voice) We're going to miss you!

     Adios chicharrones,

     Larry

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:15:52 CST
From: Larry Koch (KOCHLA_at_BCEPO04@CCMAIL.WORLDCOM.COM)
Subject: Re[6]: numbah 1) it's not because of warren...


     >  > reasons why Toronto is indeed koolio. The only way it could be
     >  > koolio-er would be if they didn't stop serving at 1 am. >

     >  They stop serving in America at 2:00... at least in PENNSYLVANIA.

     Well, they don't stop til 3:00 in Montreal...

     >  >>  I don't think you quite understand... >

     >  > What's not to understand? Noise does not scare me, although it >
     >  sometimes bores me. You think I don't know from noise?

     >  The idea of kelli and co. running around, smashing their heads
     >  against the wall, playing their instruments with hammers, and
     >  giving praise to Gorzak is kinda frightening to even me...  It's
     >  not *just* the noise.

     If you say so.

     >  > Larry, considering a rewarding career with the Gap >

     >  Right next to Henery Rollins and Marky Mark!
                      ^^^^^^
     "I'm 'enery the eighth I am!" Actually, I was thinking more of the
     retail side, but since I've been told I should model...no, wait - you
     have to be famous for those ads.

     >  -jOHN, considering a rewarding career sleeping in bed

     Now you can earn money in the comfort of your own home! etc.

     Larry, going for a margarita in a while

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:40:00 -0400
From: James Sanchez (JSANCHEZ@HSSCAM.MIS.SEMI.HARRIS.COM)
Subject: Re: Fotzepolitic


Were they refering to Rush Limbaugh when they spoke of Cunt Politics.....


Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:56:49 -0400
From: James Sanchez (JSANCHEZ@HSSCAM.MIS.SEMI.HARRIS.COM)
Subject: Re: Re[6]: numbah 1) it's not because of warren...


Hey there's couties in Texas that don't even serve alcohol period!!!!

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:58:29 -0400
From: David Levine (Section25@AOL.COM)
Subject: RHP lyric questions


I am trying to figure out the titles of a couple of Red House Painters songs
that Mark Kozelek played during his solo tour, and I only have the lyrics to
guide you....If anyone happens to know what the song/album titles are, please
CC a copy of your email to me....

1.  "What do you think in the backseat..."
2.  "Where have all the people gone in my life?"
3.  "I can't think anything of why the brightest light faded..."

thanks in advance!
b.

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:08:36 -0700
From: illusory k (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Fotzepolitic


> Were they refering to Rush Limbaugh when they spoke of Cunt Politics.....

  could we NOT get into political crap again, please? this list is filled
  with enough junk...


  jOHN's k ...a happy, non-conservative republican...

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 23:30:45 +0100
From: "Hugh O'Brien" (hugh@daev.internet-eireann.ie)
Subject: Re: Folky Brendan


just to say that i've seen Brendan's solo set complete with band
here in Dublin many months ago as a sort of practise run before
going in to record the album and it was superb so just wait for
the LP or hopefully more live dates before passing sentence!:)

Hugh O'Brien            hugh@daev.internet-eireann.ie


Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:53:11 -0800
From: "Heileson, Thom" (heilts1@MACGW.GHC.ORG)
Subject: v23 etc


>pushing the envelope of this list...still, their wonderful album _Medusa_
>boasts my favorite album cover of all time--simple but stunning and
>beautiful. Take a quick peek at it if you ever have the chance.


>einexile, 4ad-l's self-appointed ambassador to idm

Indeed, a very beautiful cover. I hold in high regard all of 23 Envelope /
v23's work, but especially the earlier stuff: CT's Treasure, etc... TMC's
first 2 records... One of my very favorites is the cover for Xmal
Deutschlan's Toxin -- dead birds in purple always does the trick!

I've posted this to both lists, and was going to suggest to those on 4AD who
_aren't_ too annoyed yet with top-10 lists in general, to post their top 10
record cover designs (not necessarily 4AD) --- then I thought, why not both
lists? I'm interested to compare!

I personally must think about my list a bit as I must leave soon...

    + ---    Thom S. Heileson
   + +-             oR                 [antiAxiomaticism unlimited]
    + -    phASER@cyberspace.com

          {9>5 PacTime m>f: heilts1@macgw.ghc.org}

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 19:14:32 -0400
From: "Larissa N. Bean" (LReSKI@AOL.COM)
Subject: unsubscribe


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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 19:23:19 -0400
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Subject: unsubscribe


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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:28:19 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Slowdive EPs


You wrote:
>
>Robert Pietrusko  wrote:
>>
>>> If you look around a bit you can find the limited 2CD edition of
>>> Souvlaki which includes Blue Day. So, basically, you can buy
anything,
>>> secure in the knowledge that it will be good. Hell, buy all of
them.
>>
>> do you know where i can this????? i have been looking for it since
>> Souvlaki came out! i have all of the ep's as well as "blue Day." i
also
>> have the full lengths and Souvlaki w/o the four extra songs, but i
>> would love to have this 2CD set!!! if anyone can help me, it would
be
>> greatly appreciated! thank you!
>
>I can't think why you would want it - the double-CD edition was simply
>the standard UK "Souvlaki" in one of those double-CD standard-width
>boxes, with the CD of "Blue Day" on the back of the tray.  No extra
>artwork, or anything.

serious?  oh well.  i guess it doesn't matter now! hehe.... i thought
there would be more to it!!! i guess i don't need it after all! thanks
for saving me time.

                        -robert.

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:32:27 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@FOZZIE.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Spoonfed Hybrid and more!


> The 7" came free with the vinyl Spoonfed Hybrid S/T.  It's not available on
> CD (except maybe on a Japanese version, see the Eyesore Data Base).  The

Not maybe...

                            n9344881@cc.wwu.edu
  "He who clearly apprehends the scheme of existence does not rejoice over
 life, nor repine at death; for he knows that external limits are not final."

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:34:22 -0700
From: "lushmuse@uci...i have nothing to offer but confusion..." (ea u597@EA.OAC.UCI.EDU>
Subject: Re: RHP lyric questions


"what do you think in the backseat..." comes from "sundays and holidays"
from the shock me ep...i'm not sure about the other 2 right now...i
think, "where have all the ppl gone..." is from "uncle joe" from the
"bridge" album...i hope this helped~

laters!


On Fri, 5 May 1995, David Levine wrote:

> I am trying to figure out the titles of a couple of Red House Painters songs
> that Mark Kozelek played during his solo tour, and I only have the lyrics to
> guide you....If anyone happens to know what the song/album titles are, please
> CC a copy of your email to me....
>
> 1.  "What do you think in the backseat..."
> 2.  "Where have all the people gone in my life?"
> 3.  "I can't think anything of why the brightest light faded..."
>
> thanks in advance!
> b.
>


Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 20:18:23 -0400
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Those @W@#(*&$@(#*& UNSUBSCRIBE messages!


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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 20:24:35 -0500
From: jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU
Subject: You wanted bad DCD and RHP lyrics? You got 'em!


Before I get started however, I don't think all DCD and RHP lyrics are bad,
just some of them.  I really like they lyrics to "Michael" myself.

--------------------
>From "Ullyses":

"For tonight we must leave
with the first gentle breeze
for the Isles of Ken we are assailing [what about the Isles of Barbie?]
Just like Ullyses, on an open sea.
On an oddysey of self discovery."

--------------------
>From "In the Kingdom of the Blind the One-Eyed are Kings"
(the title is bad enough, but here's more):

"For time has imprisoned us
in the order of our years [I hate the way time is just so chronological too],
in the discipline of our ways
and in the passing of momentary stillness
we can view our chaos in motion [as opposed to motionless chaos]
and the subsequent collision of fools [smart people don't bump into each other]
wll versed in the subtle art of slavery."

--------------------
>From "Medicine Bottle":

"...no more breath in the air
or ladies underwear,
tossed over the alarmclock..." [I hate it when that happens]

--------------------
>From "Japanese to English"
(why does it not surprise me that Mark has an Asian fetish?)

"...what if I put my head on your stomach
and put my mouth to your hand..."

Anyway, those are just some examples.  Sorry to offend (well, sort of
sorry).  If you like these lyrics, bully for you!  I'm glad you enjoy them.
I myself don't.  No biggie.

-- Jeff

Jeffrey T. Gayton
jtgayton@polisci.wisc.edu

Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 00:59:55 +0000
From: Phil Gyford (phil@JHEREK.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Weatherbox


> i asked a friend of mine who has to be the BIGGEST sylvian fan ever,
> (he has even worked with him!) and the weatherbox is going for about $350!

I saw it in HMV in Reading, UK for, if I remember correctly, about GBP 75,
which still seemed expensive if you ask me!



Phil Gyford
Bristol, UK
phil@jherek.demon.co.uk

Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 01:00:01 +0000
From: Phil Gyford (phil@JHEREK.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: To Kill A Dead Man


I saw TKADM a week or so ago, before S.F.W. and it was all very nice -
black and white with continuous Portishead b/g music. I always find chess
playing in films a bit of a cliche though, so, being picky, that annoyed
me.

But - can anyone tell me what it's actually about?


Phil Gyford
Bristol, UK
phil@jherek.demon.co.uk


Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 19:22:10 -0600
From: BIGstirringofbirdsEYES (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: You wanted bad DCD and RHP lyrics? You got 'em!


On Fri, 5 May 1995 jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU wrote:

> --------------------
> >From "Medicine Bottle":
>
> "...no more breath in the air (correction: breath in my hair)
> or ladies underwear,
> tossed over the alarmclock..." [I hate it when that happens]

this is one of those lyrics that paints such a real picture, but it has
that RHP quality that can just bug the hell out of you at same time.
firstly, mark is obviously remembering living with his lover and thinking
of the little details about a relationship that somehow engrain
themselves in peoples brains.  he's missing her breath in his hair (which
is what he really says) and just thinking about how they used to live, i
imagine this incredibly messy apartment, but it is a comfortable messy if
you see what i'm saying....

the problem with RHP lyrics is that mr. kozelek makes you feel
embarrassed for him, because he's telling you something you really don't
want to know.  i'd tease my best friend to no end if he was telling me
about his relationship and said, "everything always a mess at our place,
but it feels like home.  you know, once i even found her underwear on the
fucking alarm clock.  made me laugh, it was great!"  everyone has little
details about their private lifes that would embarrass the hell out of
other people.  i know i do anyway.

i have to agree that this lyric as well as other RHP lyrics are damn
awkward, but i always try to figure out why i get so annoyed with them
sometimes.  this is just what i came up with so i can listen to medicine
bottle (which i love) with out completely making fun of mark kozelek
everytime....

anyway, this one's much worse....

"doctor said you gotta amputate that
now i'm just a three-legged cat."

bleeeeecheroo! :)

                                        .tinkertinker.
                                    .mark.

Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 20:52:15 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: AAAARRRGGGHHHH! TMC and CT Boxed Sets!!!


Help!  I found the TMC boxed set as well as a CT boxed set with 10 singles,
eps, and 4 unreleased tracks tonight.  Both were $67.  Is this a fair
price?  Would any of you trade, pay for them?  I'm stuck.  I have no money,
but I can charge them.  What should I do?  How rare are they? etc. etc....

##############################################################################

Kurt Cobain is still dead,

Eric E. Wittmershaus
eewittme@students.wisc.edu
eric.wittmershaus@mail.admin.wisc.edu

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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 20:58:08 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: my $0.02


>    OK...
>
>    1) I've always though that Perry's voice on "Ulysses" from _The
>_Serpent's_Egg_ sounded like Neil Diamond.
>

ok what are you trying to start here?

Still King of the Monsters,
##############################################################################

Kurt Cobain is still dead,

Eric E. Wittmershaus
eewittme@students.wisc.edu
eric.wittmershaus@mail.admin.wisc.edu

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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 20:58:38 -0500
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Reply to AAAARRRGGGHHHH! TMC and CT Boxed Sets!!!

              05 May 95 20:52:15 CDT" <2faad4f04557002@cdshub.cdc.com>

>Help!  I found the TMC boxed set as well as a CT boxed set with 10 singles,
>eps, and 4 unreleased tracks tonight.  Both were $67.  Is this a fair
>price?  Would any of you trade, pay for them?  I'm stuck.  I have no money,
>but I can charge them.  What should I do?  How rare are they? etc. etc....

Don't panic!!!!!!  The price is around the middle of what they
have been going for.  These are not that rare, certainly the
purchases can wait until you have the money.
Where these can be bought/ordered have been posted many times
before on this list.  I *do* know where I could walk in and buy
the TMC box set
for around 63$ at one place and the CT box set for around $70
at another place.  I do already have both.

I like your Cobain quote

___________________________________________________________________
Kent J. Vanderwaal
kjv@aquarius1.cim.cdc.com
"gifted child, omoidashite yo"
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Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 00:23:28 -0400
From: "Johnson C. Ho" (xymox@MAESTRO.COM)
Subject: slowdive home page info


Hi list,

        Does Slowdive have a www home page?? If there is, what is the
address? Thanks.

JH


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