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Subject: that cyber-freedoms petition
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 01:07:30 -0500
From: Lance Linimon (LINIMON@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: that cyber-freedoms petition
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 01:40:34 -0500
From: "(David Gionfriddo)" (DscribeDC@AOL.COM)
Subject: CRANES@Killington
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 01:47:34 -0500
From: James P Crimm (crimmjp@VTNET.COM)
Subject: Re: cyber-freedoms petition
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 07:55:06 -0500
From: Noah White (noah@EGR.URI.EDU)
Subject: Belly gig at Newcastle University, UK Sat 4.3.95
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 13:00:42 +0000
From: AG Wappat (G.S.Walker@DURHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: Polara
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 10:44:06 -0500
From: Jason Eugene Heindl (JEHEINDL%AMHERST.BITNET@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Belly gig at Shephers's Bush Empire 19.3.95
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 19:00:53 GMT
From: Pauli Markkanen (p.markkanen@IC.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Belly gig at Shephers's Bush Empire 19.3.95
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 13:58:27 -0500
From: fallen angel (jjvenkit@SCIBORG.UWATERLOO.CA)
Subject: Re: The Cranes in Cleveland!!!
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 14:53:43 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: some more CDs for sale
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 15:38:37 -0500
From: Edward Pak (ep2j+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU)
Subject: TM:University
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 22:43:00 +0200
From: Adrian Sevitz (adrian.sevitz@digitec.co.za)
Subject: HNIA
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 22:43:00 +0200
From: Adrian Sevitz (adrian.sevitz@digitec.co.za)
Subject: Re: some more CDs for sale
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 08:56:59 +0930
From: djyklp (kymtosh@STUDENT.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: New MBV album?
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 18:37:14 -0500
From: Kevin J Meehan (km5v+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU)
Subject:
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 22:53:43 EST
From: brad (BRHO6079@URIACC.URI.EDU)

Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 01:07:30 -0500
From: Lance Linimon (LINIMON@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: that cyber-freedoms petition


I'm fairly certain that this is indeed a legitimate petition. I
have a small yet informative text file dealing with the bill, similar
instructions for sending your signature, and a good analysis of it
all that I'd be happy to send to anyone who'd like it. I dled the
file from WIRED's forum on aol, which is why I'm pretty sure
all's well with it. I s'ppose WIRED's net sites might have the
file as well.



Lance

Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 01:40:34 -0500
From: "(David Gionfriddo)" (DscribeDC@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: that cyber-freedoms petition


The post I originally downloaded was quite thorough, with much information on
the bill.  Im pretty certain that that one was legitimate, although I can't
be sure if this is from the same source.

I guess my question is:  if it is a hoax, what could they possibly gain
besides a bunch of addresses?

Dave G.

Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 01:47:34 -0500
From: James P Crimm (crimmjp@VTNET.COM)
Subject: CRANES@Killington


<<<<

Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 07:55:06 -0500
From: Noah White (noah@EGR.URI.EDU)
Subject: Re: cyber-freedoms petition

              processor" at Mar 5, 95 00:00:38 am

>
> Date:    Sat, 4 Mar 1995 22:51:15 -0500
> From:    Todd Sanders 
> Subject: Re: cyber-freedoms petition: sign & pass on
>
> i was going to sign this petiiton, i had received it on another listserv i
> subscribe to but then the next day i recieved a post that this was a hoax. i
> would believe it a hoax, because i would think if it were true we would have
> gotten some media coverage about this, esp. since everyone is into this
> 'information superhighway' thing. can anyone out there tell us hoax or not?
>
>
> todd sanders
>
> hallelujah
>

  No I don't believe it is a hoax. Check out comp.org.eff (the Electronic
Freedom Foundation) newsgroup. The Exxon bill has gotten wide publicity there.

  On another note, you shouldn't be surprised that the Internet illitereate
mass press hasn't picked it up yet.

  With CNN spouting quotes like, "he even hacked the Internet" (regarding
the Mitnick case), as if the Internet is a single entity. This is the
press that gave us the "Information Superhighway" but wouldn't know a
T1 is they tripped over it. Let's hope this Info Super Highway doesn't come
with a Super DOT.

-Noah


Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 13:00:42 +0000
From: AG Wappat (G.S.Walker@DURHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: Belly gig at Newcastle University, UK Sat 4.3.95


Just to report back on the current state of Belly's tour...

(1) 3 of the band members are suffering from *real* Belly=20
    problems...direct quote from Gail on her way to the "bathroom",=20
    apparently they can't take British cuisine!!
(2) For anyone foolish enough to part large quantities of cash for the=20
    King Promo dice...they are on sale at the UK dates for =A33...
(3) Likewise, 2 x 4" Yellow/Red Belly Logo stickers will set you back =A31.
(4) The longsleeved white King promo T-shirt is *not* available at gigs.
(5) Gail's word for the tour is "rule", not content with signing all my=20
    records with "I rule" and various adaptations, with regard to Cold=20
    Water Flat (support, from Boston) she suggested on stage that "They=20
    Rule" also....now there's trivia.
(6) Oh yes, I almost forgot, the gig was awesome, packed and showing a=20
    fair number of oldies (those of us over 25, brought up on Throwing=20
    Muses) who were refused drinks at the bar because we weren't students..=
.

Andrew
+------------------------------------------+-------------------------------=
---+
|              Andrew Wappat               |   "..spitting out feathers,   =
   |
|     e-mail: G.S.Walker@durham.ac.uk      |      spitting out oar-blades..=
"  !
+------------------------------------------+-------------------------------=
---+


Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 10:44:06 -0500
From: Jason Eugene Heindl (JEHEINDL%AMHERST.BITNET@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU)
Subject: Polara


Hello.  Someone on this list mentioned that they though Polara's (debut?)
album was the best release of 1995.  I don't know if I'd go that far, but it
is one hell of a good album.  Hints of Ride, Boo Radleys, UVS and a
whole slew of Indie Rock.

jason eugene


Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 19:00:53 GMT
From: Pauli Markkanen (p.markkanen@IC.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Belly gig at Shephers's Bush Empire 19.3.95

              Mar 5, 95 1:00 pm

>
> Just to report back on the current state of Belly's tour...
>
> (1) 3 of the band members are suffering from *real* Belly=20
>     problems...direct quote from Gail on her way to the "bathroom",=20
>     apparently they can't take British cuisine!!
> (2) For anyone foolish enough to part large quantities of cash for the=20
>     King Promo dice...they are on sale at the UK dates for =A33...
> (3) Likewise, 2 x 4" Yellow/Red Belly Logo stickers will set you back =A31.
> (4) The longsleeved white King promo T-shirt is *not* available at gigs.
> (5) Gail's word for the tour is "rule", not content with signing all my=20
>     records with "I rule" and various adaptations, with regard to Cold=20
>     Water Flat (support, from Boston) she suggested on stage that "They=20
>     Rule" also....now there's trivia.
> (6) Oh yes, I almost forgot, the gig was awesome, packed and showing a=20
>     fair number of oldies (those of us over 25, brought up on Throwing=20
>     Muses) who were refused drinks at the bar because we weren't students..=
> .
>
> Andrew
> +------------------------------------------+-------------------------------=
> ---+
> |              Andrew Wappat               |   "..spitting out feathers,   =
>    |
> |     e-mail: G.S.Walker@durham.ac.uk      |      spitting out oar-blades..=
> "  !
> +------------------------------------------+-------------------------------=
> ---+
>
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Andrew.  Also, I am pleased it was good.  I went to
see Throwing Muses at the Astoria on the 20th of Feb, and they were stunning.
I haven't seen them before, and it was strange to see someone as obviously
quiet as Kristen Hersh coming out with such stunning songs.  That gig really
whetted my appetite for the Belly gig next Sunday.  My only disappointment
was that as it was the last night of the UK tour, the 'Bright Yellow Gun
T-shirts had sold out, and I had to get a 'University' T shirt.  Now,
everyone I meet asks me where Throwing Muses University is.
I tell them Oregon.
Which T-shirts were for sale at Belly? Were there any? I don't want to miss
out again!

Pauli
London

Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 13:58:27 -0500
From: fallen angel (jjvenkit@SCIBORG.UWATERLOO.CA) could anyone give me info about how rare this uvs cd is: rev (OK 53113) on the cd blood and thunder (OSK 74841) on the cd track 1. blood and thunder (remix edit ) 4.35 track 2. candida (theme from `red pressume mounting') 3.15 track 3. don't look now (now!) 4.05 track 4. winter song 4.55 copyright 92 4ad, 93 sony (chaos/columbia) it comes with both cd's in one jewel box with a piviting cd holder the jewel box insert and sticker on the case list the cds as: rev 02K 53133 b&t 02K 53133-S1 .v.

Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 14:53:43 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Re: The Cranes in Cleveland!!!


Cyril,

Her talking voice sounds like her singing voice to be honest.

Alfred Douglas


Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 15:38:37 -0500
From: Edward Pak (ep2j+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU)
Subject: some more CDs for sale


Heavenly Bodies : celestial  $8 (1988 C'est la Mort)

Spoonfed Hybrid : s/t  $14 (Guernica 1993)

Pale Saints : The Comforts of Madness (4AD 1990)  $14

Seefeel : Polyfusia  (Astralwerks 1993)   $8
    reissue of their TOO PURE ep's

please add $1.25 for shipping

-Eddie


Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 22:43:00 +0200
From: Adrian Sevitz (adrian.sevitz@digitec.co.za)
Subject: TM:University


MICAH NEWMAN said on 03-03-95 ....

MN>Hello everyone again,
MN>        I'm a big Throwing Muses fan. Kristin Hersh is an utterly
MN>brilliant songwriter and... I'm searching for a word to describe her
MN>guitar playing. Maybe supernatural is the word. Those deft,

..............snip ......

MN>d I can't figure out why she left or what she's doing now.
MN>She came back as a session player on Red Heaven, and now is
MN>unfortunately gone.

I havent heard Red Heaven, but out of RR, HP & UN (The 3 that I own,) my
vote would go for HP. I liked university, but don't think it is as great
as HP. I would put it on the same level as RR. BYGun, is excellent, and
I like Snakeface. I really liked Belly's stuff, and I think T Donelly,
is great, but after waiting for King, and  maybe too much anticipation
It just wasn't as good as I was expecting, and so as I bought King and
Universty at the same time, I had no preconceptions of University. I
think Tanya and Kristan were really good together. Oh well.

Gnome .... wishing feverently for a 4AD band to come to South Africa ..

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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 22:43:00 +0200
From: Adrian Sevitz (adrian.sevitz@digitec.co.za)
Subject: HNIA


I got HNIA - Mouth by Mouth from a friend for a while.
WOW
WOW
Damn, I hate it when I miss out on really good music 'cause I have no
money.

I jeally prefer female vocals to male vocals, and the woman singing has
a beautiful voice. The guitar is really excellent, and has a differnt
sound to a lot of what I have heard. Also each song on the album has a
different sound to it. I'll have to steel, beg, steel, borrow, & steel
some more HNIA from those of my few friends who have it. I suppose I
could always sell my car or something.

Gnome ... who is kicking himself for not listening HNIA sooner ...

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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 08:56:59 +0930
From: djyklp (kymtosh@STUDENT.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: some more CDs for sale

              Pak" at Mar 5, 95 03:38:37 pm

>
> Heavenly Bodies : celestial  $8 (1988 C'est la Mort)
>
> Spoonfed Hybrid : s/t  $14 (Guernica 1993)
>
> Pale Saints : The Comforts of Madness (4AD 1990)  $14
>
> Seefeel : Polyfusia  (Astralwerks 1993)   $8
>     reissue of their TOO PURE ep's
>
> please add $1.25 for shipping
>
> -Eddie
>
 Might be interested in the Spoonfed Hybrid... and what
 exactly is on the SeeFeel CD?? I have the more like Spacce
 EP... is that included on it?

                                        Tim.

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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 18:37:14 -0500
From: Kevin J Meehan (km5v+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU)
Subject: Re: New MBV album?


Anxiously awaiting MBV stuff myself, but still, "loveless" was delayed
so long because it took two years just to get the basslines
right....(sigh)

                                                -yours in torment,
                                                           caoimhi/n.
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    |     *Gothic/industrial/ambient guitaring
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 22:53:43 EST
From: brad (BRHO6079@URIACC.URI.EDU) Multiple recipients of list 4AD-L <4AD-L%JHUVM.BITNET@BROWNVM.brown.edu> 5 Mar 1995 13:58:27 -0500 from On Sun, 5 Mar 1995 13:58:27 Fallen Angel asked how rare this CD is... >rev (OK 53113) on the cd >blood and thunder (OSK 74841) on the cd > track 1. blood and thunder (remix edit ) 4.35 > track 2. candida (theme from `red pressume mounting') 3.15 > track 3. don't look now (now!) 4.05 > track 4. winter song 4.55 > > copyright 92 4ad, 93 sony (chaos/columbia) >it comes with both cd's in one jewel box with a piviting cd holder >the jewel box insert and sticker on the case list the cds as: >rev 02K 53133 >b&t 02K 53133-S1 I'm also curious about this... I have this also. b r a d

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