Subject: Re: ...a small review from a diff. list...
Subject: Re: ...a small review from a diff. list...
Subject: ...hyacinths... (long poetic post)
Subject: Re: PJ HARVEY'S NEW ALBUM
Subject: Abstract magazine.
Subject: New MBV album?
Subject: Fiddling in S. Africa
Subject: Re: Cotton-eye-joe
Subject: Re: Love Spirals & Lycia Live shows
Subject: What is B(C)AD 5005?
Subject: Re: TM:university
Subject: Re: Love Spirals
Subject: Re: Fiddling in S. Africa
Subject: A.C. Marias
Subject: Hi ...
Subject: Re: New Frank Black
Subject: New Frank Black
Subject: Re: new albums by MBV & Slowdive
Subject: Re: A.C. Marias
Subject: Re: CT "lyrics"
Subject: Re: New Frank Black
Subject: Re: new albums by MBV & Slowdive
Subject: Re: New MBV album?
Subject: Re: Cotton-eye-joe
Subject: The Cranes in Cleveland!!!
Subject: Re: Fiddling in S. Africa
Subject: Frank, Slowdive, MBV & Labradford
Subject: Re: Frank, Slowdive, MBV & Labradford
Subject: Re: The Cranes in Cleveland!!!
Subject: Re: Frank, Slowdive, MBV & Labradford
Subject: Re: Abstract magazine.
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 23:14:03 -0600
> *k* ...the hyacinth girl...
that isn't a *Winter Hours* reference is it?
-cz ...incendiary...
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 00:51:50 EST
<4AD-L%[email protected]>
2 Mar 1995 23:14:03 -0600 from Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 23:03:39 -0800
> > *k* ...the hyacinth girl...
>
> that isn't a *Winter Hours* reference is it?
oh...you are going to make me divulge my poetic lines, aren't you?
:sigh: well then, if you must know where it comes from, here goes... :)
from The Waste Land * t. s. eliot {another hero o'mine}
I. The Burial Of The Dead
April is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire, stirring
Dull roots with spring rain.
Winter kept us warm, covering
Earth in forgetful snow, feeding
A little life with dried tubers.
Summer surprised us, coming over the Starnbergersee
With a shower of rain; we stopped in the colonnade,
And drank coffee, and talked for an hour.
Bin gar keine Russin, stamm' aus Litauen, echt deutsch.
And when we were children, staying at the arch-dukes,
My cousin's, he took me out on a sled,
And I was frightened. He said, Marie,
Marie, hold on tight. And down we went.
In the mountains, thee you feel free.
I read, much of the night, and go south in the winter.
What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow
Out of this stony rubbish? Son of man,
You cannot say, or guess, for you know only
A heap of broken images, where the sun beats,
And the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief,
And the dry stone no sound of water. Only
There is shadow under this red rock,
(Come in under the shadow of this red rock),
And I will show you something different from either.
Your shadow at morning striding behind you
Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
Frisch weht der Wind
Der Heimat zu.
Mein irisch Kind,
Wo weilest du?
'You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
'They called me the hyacinth girl.'
--Yet when we came back, late, from the Hyacinth garden,
Your arms full, and your hair wet, I could not
Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither
Living nor dead, and I knew nothing,
Looking into the heart of light, the silence.
Od' und leer dad Meer.
Madame Sostoris, famous clairvoyante,
Had a bad cold, nevertheless
Is known to be the wisest woman in Europe,
With a wicked pack of cards. Here, said she,
Is your card, the drowned Phoenician Sailor,
(Those are pearls that were his eyes. Look!)
Here is Belladonna, the Lady of the Rocks,
The lady of situations.
Here is the man with the three staves, and here the Wheel,
And here is the one-eyed merchant, and this card,
Which is blank, is something he carries on his back,
Which I am forbidden to see. I do not find
The Hanged Man. Fear death by water.
I see crowds of people, walking round in a ring.
Thank you. If you see dear Mrs. Equitone,
Tell her I bring the horoscope myself:
One must be so careful these days.
Unreal City,
Under the brown fog of a winter dawn,
A crowd flowed over London Bridge, so many,
I had not thought death had done so many.
Sighs, short and infrequent, were exhaled,
And each man fixed his eyes before his feet.
Flowed up the hill and down King William Street,
To where Saint Mary Woolnoth kept the hours
With a dead sound on the final stroke of nine.
There I saw one I knew, and stopped him crying: 'Stetson!
'You who were with me in the ships at Mylae!
'That corpse you planted last year in your garden,
'Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year?
'Or has the sudden frost disturbed it's bed?
'Oh keep the Dog far hence, that's friend to men,
'Or with nails he'll dig it up again!
'You! hypocrite lecteur!--mon semblable,--mon frere!'
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
of course, to truly appreciate this, you'd have to hear me
read it... * the hyacinth girl*
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 06:01:20 EST
!!GreEtinGs!!
Hi everyone! yuppers, i heard PJ Harvey's new
one the day it was released. At first, i did
not recognize it..after a few blushing minutes
i did! Yeah, it is pretty k00l, not enough
to form a solid opinoun, but i am going to check
later..let me know how ay all feel about this album!
Oh by he wya, tis me .mar. (like i ever post anyting
anyway..but i had to make a new acct. so here
my sys. admin. made me think up a name like really
quick..hmm..well, if ya knew me it describes ne!
Okay, enough balbbering at 6 am and no sleep!
+)
.mar.
[email protected]
if you are sleepy and you know it shake your head..if you are..oh nevermind!
+)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 03:02:08 -0800
This is a thislisty question. Does anyone have a complete list of all
the Abstract magazine/record sets on Sweatbox records? I've only got
one, Volume 6 which I picked up especially for the Xymox track, but the
Chakk and Hula tracks are great as well. If someone can respond, please
include artists and songs on each issue available. Are these pretty
impossible to find these days? Thanks for any response. Brian.
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:38:14 +0000
95 04:03:49 pm
Micah Newman Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 08:12:00 -0500
It's called "the Devil Went Down to Georgia" by Charlie Daniels. It
was played to death many years ago on the radio. Not bad, if you like
Charlie Daniels...but there is a boat load of quality fiddle music that
is not on mainstream radio.
Timothy Conlon
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TIM CONLON
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 13:34:14 GMT
Multiple_recipients_of_list_4AD-L_ <[email protected]>
that other fiddle song is
The Devil went down to Georgia by Charlie daniels (??)
a huge hit here in canada
"chicken in thebreadpan picking out dough.......dooo see doooo"
whoa rigt next to my CT collection , fer sure:-)
now back to our regular sched prog.............
ian
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 09:14:10 -0400
any news as to when the new Love Spirals Downwards cd is due?
Ricq
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 09:55:22 EST
Someone posted that the new RHP CD is CAD 5006 CD, and I know Belly's
"King" was CAD 5004 CD ... what is 5005?
Tom
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 10:43:50 -0500
> BTW--whatever happened to Leslie Langston, TM's former >bassist?
>She's every bit as brilliant a musician as Kristin Hersh, and I can't
>figure out why she left or what she's doing now. She came back as >a
>session player on Red Heaven, and now is unfortunately gone.
After Red Heaven she did some work on The Wolfgang Press album "Queer" and
after that I heard she's out of music and living a life a housewife. It's too
bad because I wanted to marry her myself :)
Ciao,
NIKK
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 10:11:50 -0600
Ricq asked:
>any news as to when the new Love Spirals Downwards cd is due?
Well their second album, "Ardor," has been out for a few months.
That's probably the one you're referring to BUT please please tell me i'm
wrong so i can look forward to ANOTHER cd from Love Spirals Downward.
-cz
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:53:42 -0600
> It's called "the Devil Went Down to Georgia" by Charlie Daniels. It
> was played to death many years ago on the radio. Not bad, if you like
> Charlie Daniels...but there is a boat load of quality fiddle music that
> is not on mainstream radio.
Jeez, the Charlie Daniels Band as fodder for discussion on the 4AD list.
Good Lord and Lady, I never thought I'd see the day. Of course, given
some of the ho-hum releases Ivo's given us so far this year, maybe I'd
better...naaaaaaah!
---Jeremy
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 16:17:07 GMT
Jeremy Orr wrote:
>Actually, isn't A.C. Marias a person, namely the feamle singer?
I can't remember if anyone replied to this. ACM is/was basically Joanne
Conway.
>believe that when "120 Minutes" showed the video for the title track of
>the CD, good ol' Dave Kendall said that she was the wife of someone in
>Wire (Graham Lewis?)
More likely Bruce Gilbert perhaps, since he seems to play on some ACM
stuff.
>You mean A.C. Marias? I'd always assumed that "One of Our Girls" was
>her(?)/their(?) only release. Anyone else know anything about any of this?
I think "One of Our Girls" was the only album but there were at least three
singles.
Simon
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 17:20:15 GMT
I've just subscribed to the 4AD list having seen it mentioned on
RMUSIC-L, so I thought I'd get off an introductory post.~
My favourite 4AD band is Dead can Dance. My most prized 4AD
possession is a Pixies Live Promo.~
Am I alone in thinking The Cocteau Twin's first major label album (4
Calendar Cafe) was very poor?~
On the subject of The Cocteau Twins, it was mentioned in the FAQ
about Liz's lyrics and listed the only official ones. It was one of
my pleasures in listening to the CTs to try and spot English phrases.~
Can someone verify or disprove that _Mary and me, secretive tongues_
is sang on Through the Dark Months ... (Victorialand).~
Adrian~
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 18:36:03 +0000
On Fri, 3 Mar 1995, Steven Titus wrote:
> I found a "new release" from Frank Black called "Talk to Me" on the new releas
s
> list. It was supposed to be released Feb. 28. Does anyone know what it is all
> about?
Umm...wasn't this some kind of female folk singer called _Frances_ Blck
or something? I recall a thread on this on a.m.a... Anyway, it's not the
Frank Black you want.
Jon Kvebaek
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:27:00 CDT
I found a "new release" from Frank Black called "Talk to Me" on the new releases
list. It was supposed to be released Feb. 28. Does anyone know what it is all
about?
titus
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 13:42:53 EST
02 Mar 1995 16:03:49 PST." <[email protected]>
Actually, Slowdive are officially off SBK. This also means that the chances of
"Pygmalion" reaching the U.S. are slim-to-none. Opinion on this groups appears
to be that if you want the album, get the import. As for "Just for a Day" --
I'm surprised you've found it so hard to find. I would think that Tower or HMV
would definitely have it.
Lawren
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:55:16 -0600
In <[email protected]>, Simon Hughes wrote:
> >Actually, isn't A.C. Marias a person, namely the feamle singer?
>
> I can't remember if anyone replied to this. ACM is/was basically Joanne
> Conway.
That would be Angela Conway.
-shill
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:34:13 -0800
Response to Adrian E Wake
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:41:18 -0800
On Fri, 3 Mar 1995, Steven Titus wrote:
> I found a "new release" from Frank Black called "Talk to Me" on the new releas
s
> list. It was supposed to be released Feb. 28. Does anyone know what it is all
> about?
>
> titus
> [email protected]
>
I don't know about any new Frank Black album, but I saw him a week ago
at The Underground, Santa Barbara. He played about four new songs, so a new
album would certainly be expected pretty soon. That guy just churns out new
songs like nobody else, even Kristin Hersh.
The gig was great, I pushed my way to the front of the pit, right up
against the stage, and his Fender Tele was swinging right in my face for
most of the set. Everyone was screaming for old Pixies songs, but he just
played his own solo stuff, which was fine by me. About 3 songs from his first
album were played, 12 from Teenager, the 4 new ones, and one of the Headache
Feldman. Does anyone know who that new guy in his band is?
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:43:45 -0800
On Fri, 3 Mar 1995, Lawren Wu wrote:
> RE: Slowdive
>
> Actually, Slowdive are officially off SBK. This also means that the chances o
> "Pygmalion" reaching the U.S. are slim-to-none. Opinion on this groups appear
> to be that if you want the album, get the import. As for "Just for a Day" --
> I'm surprised you've found it so hard to find. I would think that Tower or HM
> would definitely have it.
>
> Lawren
> [email protected]
>
They certainly had it, but as I said, it was the flagrant mispress that
they had.
Too bad they didn't merely switch labels in the U.S. Looks like
I'll have to scour for the import.
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 14:43:40 -0500
>Micah Newman
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 16:06:24 -0600
That tune is the "national" song and dance of Texas. Is it
fairly faithful to country and western, or has it been re-done
in a techno/ambient dance style?
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 23:38:00 GMT
aLFRED dOUGLAS wrote:
ad> I just saw the CRANES on tuesday night. What a show!!! I got
ad> more than my money's worth. I met Alison Shaw, and got an
ad> autographed set list too. If anyone is intrested in what
ad> they played here it is, taken directly from the setlist:
Does Alison also have a 'child-like' voice when she talks? (always wanted to
know that)
leeter.. cyril
[email protected]
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 03:31:00 M
> It's called "the Devil Went Down to Georgia" by Charlie Daniels. It
> was played to death many years ago on the radio. Not bad, if you like
> Charlie Daniels...but there is a boat load of quality fiddle music that
> is not on mainstream radio.
I think that is is so weird that we
are talking about this because I
remember listening to that song
for the first time and loving
it...I went right out and
bought the CD...to this day
it is still the only country
CD that I own...see ya'll...
-Cojab Paul Radnoel
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 17:37:44 -0600
First, from Micah Newman:
> On Fri, 3 Mar 1995, Steven Titus wrote:
>
>> I found a "new release" from Frank Black called "Talk to Me" on the new
>> releases list. It was supposed to be released Feb. 28. Does anyone know
>> what it is all about?
>
> I don't know about any new Frank Black album, but I saw him a week ago
> at The Underground, Santa Barbara. He played about four new songs, so a new
> album would certainly be expected pretty soon. That guy just churns out new
> songs like nobody else, even Kristin Hersh.
Yeah, well, too bad he can't even get near her in terms of quality (at
least, not anymore). And I'm sure that since hardly anyone bought his
last album, Elektra's not too hot to throw another one out there yet.
And would Frank actually release an album called _Talk_to_Me_? Come on...
Then, from Lawren Wu:
> Actually, Slowdive are officially off SBK. This also means that the
> chances of "Pygmalion" reaching the U.S. are slim-to-none. Opinion on
> this groups appears to be that if you want the album, get the import.
Now that Creation has signed a new distribution deal with Sony/TriStar,
is there any word on the possibility of a US release for _Pygmalion_? I
know, if there were, we probably would have heard about it by now, but I
haven't given up hope. Perhaps if we launched a massive letter-writing
campaign to the TriStar people..? Also, I just recently heard the _5EP_
for the first time, and I really like it! Would any fellow listies care
to comment on how the new album compares to this EP?
Then, from Brendon Macaraeg (in reference to MBV):
> I'm intrigued by what folks have posted from the Simon Reynolds article in
> Rolling Stone...
What article would this be, and what issue would I find it in? It's good
to hear he's still writing - I loved his book "Blissed Out" (which
should be required reading for everyone on this list), but I haven't
heard that much from him since.
And lastly, from Lorraine Lelis:
> was anyone at that april 1994 maxwell's show?? did anyone else feel the
> pain i felt, waiting for slowdive and having to endure LABRADFORD??? i
> guess a lot of people do like them- including duncan of stereolab- but
> AAAGH slowdive didn't even like 'em....
This sounds like the typical response from a fan who was so amped to see
her idols that she was too patient to sit through a set by a band she was
unfamiliar with. I'm sure this was exacerbated by said band being
Labradford; they're pretty challenging, and I'm sure they could be seen
as being "boring" live (in the sense of going to a rock show, even
Slowdive). But hey, I've been guilty of that myself. When I saw Galaxie
500 open up for the Cocteau Twins in 1991, I *HATED* them. But a few
months later, when I heard them again under different circumstances,
their brilliance was revealed.
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 19:35:31 -0500
>
>Then, from Brendon Macaraeg (in reference to MBV):
>
>> I'm intrigued by what folks have posted from the Simon Reynolds article in
>> Rolling Stone...
>
>What article would this be, and what issue would I find it in? It's good
>to hear he's still writing - I loved his book "Blissed Out" (which
>should be required reading for everyone on this list), but I haven't
>heard that much from him since.
>
>
>---Jeremy
There's a thread on the MBV list going on about Jungle Music (which I
thought came from 4AD by mistake--this is what happens when you're on
several mailing lists; sorry), which I guess is a sub-genre of
techno...seems Kevin Sheilds has been extremely influenced by it
lately....The Reynolds article is in the latest RS, I guess the one with
Ethan Hawke on the front..not positive about that....
Also, since I don't pick up the British music weeklies that often, can
someone post some reviews of
the latest Slowdive album. I'm curious what the NME and MM had to say about
it. Not that it matters, but I'd be curious to know....
-B
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 19:08:30 +0000
the voice really isn't that childlike
i met her in dallas a few weeks back