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Subject: Re: ...a small review from a diff. list...
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 23:14:03 -0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: ...a small review from a diff. list...
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 00:51:50 EST
From: brad (BRHO6079@URIACC.URI.EDU)
Subject: ...hyacinths... (long poetic post)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 23:03:39 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: PJ HARVEY'S NEW ALBUM
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 06:01:20 EST
From: Gr00Vy Mar (M_GR00VY@PRIME.DELTA.EDU)
Subject: Abstract magazine.
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 03:02:08 -0800
From: Brian Lyons (brianlyo@GODFATHER.CYBERQUEST.COM)
Subject: New MBV album?
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:38:14 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Fiddling in S. Africa
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 08:12:00 -0500
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Cotton-eye-joe
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 13:34:14 GMT
From: Ian McCausland (Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca)
Subject: Re: Love Spirals & Lycia Live shows
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 09:14:10 -0400
From: Ricq Pattay (PATTAYR@steffi.uncg.edu)
Subject: What is B(C)AD 5005?
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 09:55:22 EST
From: TOM HOMULKA (THOMULKA@SPL.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: TM:university
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 10:43:50 -0500
From: Nikk Allen (Nikkw@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Love Spirals
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 10:11:50 -0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Fiddling in S. Africa
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:53:42 -0600
From: "Jeremy L. Orr" (jorr02@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)
Subject: A.C. Marias
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 16:17:07 GMT
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: Hi ...
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 17:20:15 GMT
From: Adrian E Wake (aew@DATAWRIGHT.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: New Frank Black
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 18:36:03 +0000
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: New Frank Black
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:27:00 CDT
From: Steven Titus (TITUS@MACC.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: new albums by MBV & Slowdive
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 13:42:53 EST
From: Lawren Wu (lcwu@MIT.EDU)
Subject: Re: A.C. Marias
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:55:16 -0600
From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: Re: CT "lyrics"
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:34:13 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMX.WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: New Frank Black
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:41:18 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMX.WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: new albums by MBV & Slowdive
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:43:45 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMX.WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: New MBV album?
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 14:43:40 -0500
From: Brendon Macaraeg (bqm1808@IS.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Cotton-eye-joe
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 16:06:24 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: The Cranes in Cleveland!!!
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 23:38:00 GMT
From: Cyril_Tjahja (ctjahja@MBH.LIGHTSTREAM.NL)
Subject: Re: Fiddling in S. Africa
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 03:31:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: Frank, Slowdive, MBV & Labradford
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 17:37:44 -0600
From: "Jeremy L. Orr" (jorr02@ozarks.sgcl.lib.mo.us)
Subject: Re: Frank, Slowdive, MBV & Labradford
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 19:35:31 -0500
From: Brendon Macaraeg (bqm1808@IS.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: The Cranes in Cleveland!!!
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 19:08:30 +0000
From: Steve Bagwell (Stephen_Bagwell@BAYLOR.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank, Slowdive, MBV & Labradford
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 19:13:19 +0000
From: Steve Bagwell (Stephen_Bagwell@BAYLOR.EDU)
Subject: Re: Abstract magazine.
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 17:54:15 EDT
From: Ed Klein/emotion (Ed_Klein/emotion.EMOTION@EMOTION.COM)

Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 23:14:03 -0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: ...a small review from a diff. list...


>  *k* ...the hyacinth girl...

that isn't a *Winter Hours* reference is it?

-cz    ...incendiary...

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 00:51:50 EST
From: brad (BRHO6079@URIACC.URI.EDU)
Subject: Re: ...a small review from a diff. list...

              <4AD-L%JHUVM.BITNET@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
              2 Mar 1995 23:14:03 -0600 from 

here's a neat little promo goodie that a received just the other day...
i don't think anyone's mentioned it yet...

an official WOLFGANG PRESS 'going south' COMPASS!  Yes, that's right!  A
compass!  It's one of those little ball compasses that fit on a keychain.

-thought you might be interested
brad


Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 23:03:39 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: ...hyacinths... (long poetic post)


> >  *k* ...the hyacinth girl...
>
> that isn't a *Winter Hours* reference is it?

  oh...you are going to make me divulge my poetic lines, aren't you?
  :sigh: well then, if you must know where it comes from, here goes... :)


  from The Waste Land * t. s. eliot {another hero o'mine}

  I.  The Burial Of The Dead

  April is the cruellest month, breeding
  Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
  Memory and desire, stirring
  Dull roots with spring rain.
  Winter kept us warm, covering
  Earth in forgetful snow, feeding
  A little life with dried tubers.
  Summer surprised us, coming over the Starnbergersee
  With a shower of rain; we stopped in the colonnade,
  And drank coffee, and talked for an hour.
  Bin gar keine Russin, stamm' aus Litauen, echt deutsch.
  And when we were children, staying at the arch-dukes,
  My cousin's, he  took me out on a sled,
  And I was frightened. He said, Marie,
  Marie, hold on tight. And down we went.
  In the mountains, thee you feel free.
  I read, much of the night, and go south in the winter.

     What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow
  Out of this stony rubbish? Son of man,
  You cannot say, or guess, for you know only
  A heap of broken images, where the sun beats,
  And the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief,
  And the dry stone no sound of water. Only
  There is shadow under this red rock,
  (Come in under the shadow of this red rock),
  And I will show you something different from either.
  Your shadow at morning striding behind you
  Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
  I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
                     Frisch weht der Wind
                     Der Heimat zu.
                     Mein irisch Kind,
                     Wo weilest du?
  'You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
  'They called me the hyacinth girl.'
  --Yet when we came back, late, from the Hyacinth garden,
  Your arms full, and your hair wet, I could not
  Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither
  Living nor dead, and I knew nothing,
  Looking into the heart of light, the silence.
  Od' und leer dad Meer.

     Madame Sostoris, famous clairvoyante,
  Had a bad cold, nevertheless
  Is known to be the wisest woman in Europe,
  With a wicked pack of cards. Here, said she,
  Is your card, the drowned Phoenician Sailor,
  (Those are pearls that were his eyes. Look!)
  Here is Belladonna, the Lady of the Rocks,
  The lady of situations.
  Here is the man with the three staves, and here the Wheel,
  And here is the one-eyed merchant, and this card,
  Which is blank, is something he carries on his back,
  Which I am forbidden to see. I do not find
  The Hanged Man. Fear death by water.
  I see crowds of people, walking round in a ring.
  Thank you. If you see dear Mrs. Equitone,
  Tell her I bring the horoscope myself:
  One must be so careful these days.

     Unreal City,
  Under the brown fog of a winter dawn,
  A crowd flowed over London Bridge, so many,
  I had not thought death had done so many.
  Sighs, short and infrequent, were exhaled,
  And each man fixed his eyes before his feet.
  Flowed up the hill and down King William Street,
  To where Saint Mary Woolnoth kept the hours
  With a dead sound on the final stroke of nine.
  There I saw one I knew, and stopped him crying: 'Stetson!
  'You who were with me in the ships at Mylae!
  'That corpse you planted last year in your garden,
  'Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year?
  'Or has the sudden frost disturbed it's bed?
  'Oh keep the Dog far hence, that's friend to men,
  'Or with nails he'll dig it up again!
  'You! hypocrite lecteur!--mon semblable,--mon frere!'

-   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -  -
  of course, to truly appreciate this, you'd have to hear me
  read it... * the hyacinth girl*


Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 06:01:20 EST
From: Gr00Vy Mar (M_GR00VY@PRIME.DELTA.EDU)
Subject: Re: PJ HARVEY'S NEW ALBUM


                        !!GreEtinGs!!

                Hi everyone! yuppers, i heard PJ Harvey's new
one the day it was released.  At first, i did
                not recognize it..after a few blushing minutes
                i did!  Yeah, it is pretty k00l, not enough
                to form a solid opinoun, but i am going to check
                later..let me know how ay all feel about this album!

                Oh by he wya, tis me .mar. (like i ever post anyting
                anyway..but i had to make a new acct. so here
                my sys. admin. made me think up a name like really
                quick..hmm..well, if ya knew me it describes ne!

                        Okay, enough balbbering at 6 am and no sleep!

+)
.mar.
m_gr00vy@prime.delta.edu
if you are sleepy and you know it shake your head..if you are..oh nevermind!
+)

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 03:02:08 -0800
From: Brian Lyons (brianlyo@GODFATHER.CYBERQUEST.COM)
Subject: Abstract magazine.


 This is a thislisty question. Does anyone have a complete list of all
the Abstract magazine/record sets on Sweatbox records? I've only got
one, Volume 6 which I picked up especially for the Xymox track, but the
Chakk and Hula tracks are great as well. If someone can respond, please
include artists and songs on each issue available. Are these pretty
impossible to find these days? Thanks for any response. Brian.


Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:38:14 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: New MBV album?

              95 04:03:49 pm

Micah Newman  wrote:
>
>         I guess My Bloody Valentine and Slowdive are appropriate subject
> matter for this list despite the fact that they aren't and never were on
> 4AD, so I just wanted to know if anyone knew when the new MBV album will
> be out in the U.S. I read on WWW in the 'Dream Pop' page that they have
> an 'anxiously anticipated new album' coming out soon.

Unfortunately, Kevin Shields and the rest of the human race have wildly
different ideas of the meaning of the word "Soon".  There's no sign of
any release from MBV - the most likely rumour is that there will be an
EP sometime this year, but then twelve months ago Island were saying the
same thing.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 03/03/95
On my walkman this morning : Autechre - Basscadet & Garbage
It is the same! - For, be it joy or sorrow,


Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 08:12:00 -0500
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Fiddling in S. Africa


It's called "the Devil Went Down to Georgia" by Charlie Daniels.  It
was played to death many years ago on the radio.  Not bad, if you like
Charlie Daniels...but there is a boat load of quality fiddle music that
is not on mainstream radio.

Timothy Conlon
TJC@VIRGINIA.EDU


TIM CONLON
U590@sysm.acs.Virginia.EDU


Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 13:34:14 GMT
From: Ian McCausland (Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca)
Subject: Re: Cotton-eye-joe

              Multiple_recipients_of_list_4AD-L_ <4AD-L@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU>

that other fiddle song is
The Devil went down to Georgia by Charlie daniels (??)
a huge hit here in canada

"chicken in thebreadpan picking out dough.......dooo see doooo"

whoa rigt next to my CT collection , fer sure:-)


now back to our regular sched prog.............
ian

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 09:14:10 -0400
From: Ricq Pattay (PATTAYR@steffi.uncg.edu)
Subject: Re: Love Spirals & Lycia Live shows


any news as to when the new Love Spirals Downwards cd is due?

Ricq
pattayr@iris.uncg.edu


Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 09:55:22 EST
From: TOM HOMULKA (THOMULKA@SPL.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: What is B(C)AD 5005?


Someone posted that the new RHP CD is CAD 5006 CD, and I know Belly's
"King" was CAD 5004 CD ... what is 5005?

Tom
thomulka@spl.mhs.compuserve.com


Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 10:43:50 -0500
From: Nikk Allen (Nikkw@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: TM:university


>        BTW--whatever happened to Leslie Langston, TM's former >bassist?
>She's every bit as brilliant a musician as Kristin Hersh, and I can't
>figure out why she left or what she's doing now. She came back as >a
>session player on Red Heaven, and now is unfortunately gone.

  After Red Heaven she did some work on The Wolfgang Press album "Queer" and
after that I heard she's out of music and living a life a housewife. It's too
bad because I wanted to marry her myself :)

Ciao,
NIKK

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 10:11:50 -0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Love Spirals


        Ricq asked:
>any news as to when the new Love Spirals Downwards cd is due?

        Well their second album, "Ardor," has been out for a few months.
That's probably the one you're referring to BUT please please tell me i'm
wrong so i can look forward to ANOTHER cd from Love Spirals Downward.

                                -cz


Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:53:42 -0600
From: "Jeremy L. Orr" (jorr02@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)
Subject: Re: Fiddling in S. Africa


> It's called "the Devil Went Down to Georgia" by Charlie Daniels.  It
> was played to death many years ago on the radio.  Not bad, if you like
> Charlie Daniels...but there is a boat load of quality fiddle music that
> is not on mainstream radio.

Jeez, the Charlie Daniels Band as fodder for discussion on the 4AD list.
Good Lord and Lady, I never thought I'd see the day.  Of course, given
some of the ho-hum releases Ivo's given us so far this year, maybe I'd
better...naaaaaaah!


---Jeremy 

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 16:17:07 GMT
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: A.C. Marias


Jeremy Orr wrote:

>Actually, isn't A.C. Marias a person, namely the feamle singer?

I can't remember if anyone replied to this.  ACM is/was basically Joanne
Conway.

>believe that when "120 Minutes" showed the video for the title track of
>the CD, good ol' Dave Kendall said that she was the wife of someone in
>Wire (Graham Lewis?)

More likely Bruce Gilbert perhaps, since he seems to play on some ACM
stuff.

>You mean A.C. Marias?  I'd always assumed that "One of Our Girls" was
>her(?)/their(?) only release.  Anyone else know anything about any of this?

I think "One of Our Girls" was the only album but there were at least three
singles.

Simon

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 17:20:15 GMT
From: Adrian E Wake (aew@DATAWRIGHT.CO.UK)
Subject: Hi ...


I've just subscribed to the 4AD list having seen it mentioned on
RMUSIC-L, so I thought I'd get off an introductory post.~

My favourite 4AD band is Dead can Dance. My most prized 4AD
possession is a Pixies Live Promo.~

Am I alone in thinking The Cocteau Twin's first major label album (4
Calendar Cafe) was very poor?~

On the subject of The Cocteau Twins, it was mentioned in the FAQ
about Liz's lyrics and listed the only official ones. It was one of
my pleasures in listening to the CTs to try and spot English phrases.~
Can someone verify or disprove that _Mary and me, secretive tongues_
is sang on Through the Dark Months ... (Victorialand).~

Adrian~


Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 18:36:03 +0000
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: New Frank Black


On Fri, 3 Mar 1995, Steven Titus wrote:

> I found a "new release" from Frank Black called "Talk to Me" on the new releas
s
> list. It was supposed to be released Feb. 28. Does anyone know what it is all
> about?

Umm...wasn't this some kind of female folk singer called _Frances_ Blck
or something? I recall a thread on this on a.m.a... Anyway, it's not the
Frank Black you want.

Jon Kvebaek 

"Listen to us. We are serving the The Garden of Delights Immortality
Cosmic Conciousness The Best Ever In Drug Kicks. And love love love in
slop buckets. How does that sound to you boys?"
                                - William S. Burroughs, 'Nova Express'

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:27:00 CDT
From: Steven Titus (TITUS@MACC.WISC.EDU)
Subject: New Frank Black


I found a "new release" from Frank Black called "Talk to Me" on the new releases
list. It was supposed to be released Feb. 28. Does anyone know what it is all
about?

titus
titus@macc.wisc.edu

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 13:42:53 EST
From: Lawren Wu (lcwu@MIT.EDU)
Subject: Re: new albums by MBV & Slowdive

              02 Mar 1995 16:03:49 PST." <9503030005.AA26162@MIT.EDU>


Actually, Slowdive are officially off SBK.  This also means that the chances of
"Pygmalion" reaching the U.S. are slim-to-none.  Opinion on this groups appears
to be that if you want the album, get the import.  As for "Just for a Day" --
I'm surprised you've found it so hard to find.  I would think that Tower or HMV
would definitely have it.

Lawren
lcwu@Mit.edu

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:55:16 -0600
From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: Re: A.C. Marias


In <9503031755.AA14280@harper.cc.il.us>, Simon Hughes wrote:
> >Actually, isn't A.C. Marias a person, namely the feamle singer?
>
> I can't remember if anyone replied to this.  ACM is/was basically Joanne
> Conway.

That would be Angela Conway.
-shill


--
[][]  [][] Steve Hill                     Email:shill@harper.cc.il.us
[]  []  [] Network Specialist             Voice:708-925-6273
           William Rainey Harper College    Fax:708-925-6030
[]  []  [] 1200 West Algonquin Road        Page:708-962-0430
[][]  [][] Palatine IL 60067-7398   Me? Not allowed? I'm allowed everywhere!


Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:34:13 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMX.WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: CT "lyrics"


Response to Adrian E Wake --
        First off, good choice on DCD. They are awesome.
        Secondly, I think Four-Calendar Cafe is quite good. There are several
excellent songs on it. It's definitely even more lightweight-sounding than
anything else they've done, but this is not a bad thing. It merely means that
the subtlety factor is increased another degree. I was at first a little
disappointed with it, then I came round to it and thought it was their best
album since Victorialand, now I've recently rediscovered the 2 albums BBK and
HOLV between those two, and I don't think I hold that opinion anymore.
But I certainly don't regard FCC as 'very poor'.
        Regarding their lyrics, all I know is what I read in an interview
in Alternative Press or Spin or something, I really don't know where, but
Liz says that the first two albums and the last two albums have lyrics, some
of Treasure does, and the ones in between are just vocal sounds.
According to that formula, there wouldn't be any real words in anything
from Victorialand. But it still is a possibility. I'll listen for that
line next time I hear Throughout The Dark Months Of April And May.

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:41:18 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMX.WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: New Frank Black


On Fri, 3 Mar 1995, Steven Titus wrote:

> I found a "new release" from Frank Black called "Talk to Me" on the new releas
s
> list. It was supposed to be released Feb. 28. Does anyone know what it is all
> about?
>
> titus
> titus@macc.wisc.edu
>
        I don't know about any new Frank Black album, but I saw him a week ago
at The Underground, Santa Barbara. He played about four new songs, so a new
album would certainly be expected pretty soon. That guy just churns out new
songs like nobody else, even Kristin Hersh.
        The gig was great, I pushed my way to the front of the pit, right up
against the stage, and his Fender Tele was swinging right in my face for
most of the set. Everyone was screaming for old Pixies songs, but he just
played his own solo stuff, which was fine by me. About 3 songs from his first
album were played, 12 from Teenager, the 4 new ones, and one of the Headache
Feldman. Does anyone know who that new guy in his band is?

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:43:45 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMX.WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: new albums by MBV & Slowdive


On Fri, 3 Mar 1995, Lawren Wu wrote:

> RE: Slowdive
>
> Actually, Slowdive are officially off SBK.  This also means that the chances o

> "Pygmalion" reaching the U.S. are slim-to-none.  Opinion on this groups appear

> to be that if you want the album, get the import.  As for "Just for a Day" --
> I'm surprised you've found it so hard to find.  I would think that Tower or HM

> would definitely have it.
>
> Lawren
> lcwu@Mit.edu
>
        They certainly had it, but as I said, it was the flagrant mispress that
they had.
        Too bad they didn't merely switch labels in the U.S. Looks like
I'll have to scour for the import.

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 14:43:40 -0500
From: Brendon Macaraeg (bqm1808@IS.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: New MBV album?


>Micah Newman  wrote:
>>
>>         I guess My Bloody Valentine and Slowdive are appropriate subject
>> matter for this list despite the fact that they aren't and never were on
>> 4AD, so I just wanted to know if anyone knew when the new MBV album will
>> be out in the U.S. I read on WWW in the 'Dream Pop' page that they have
>> an 'anxiously anticipated new album' coming out soon.


That's my MBV page..sorry to misinform or anything. Hey, we all know there
will be a new
LP by the end of the millenium, right? (which isn't too far away relatively
speaking).

I'm intrigued by what folks have posted from the Simon Reynolds article in
Rolling Stone...
Christ, I wish Kevin would just release SOMETHING to give us idea what the
next album
might sound like...

-B

=================================================
Brendon Macaraeg   I_ID      C O F F E E~A C H I E V E R~    I_ID
bqm1808@is.nyu.edu                               brendon355@aol.com
     http://www.itp.tsoa.nyu.edu/~student/brendonm/bmmhp.html
"A witty phrase is forthcoming soon in this space."
=================================================


Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 16:06:24 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Cotton-eye-joe


That tune is the "national" song and dance of Texas.  Is it
fairly faithful to country and western, or has it been re-done
in a techno/ambient dance style?


Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 23:38:00 GMT
From: Cyril_Tjahja (ctjahja@MBH.LIGHTSTREAM.NL)
Subject: The Cranes in Cleveland!!!


aLFRED dOUGLAS wrote:

 ad> I just saw the CRANES on tuesday night. What a show!!! I got
 ad> more than my money's worth. I met Alison Shaw, and got an
 ad> autographed set list too. If anyone is intrested in what
 ad> they played here it is, taken directly from the setlist:
Does Alison also have a 'child-like' voice when she talks? (always wanted to
know that)

leeter.. cyril
ctjahja@mbh.lightstream.nl

Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 03:31:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Fiddling in S. Africa


> It's called "the Devil Went Down to Georgia" by Charlie Daniels.  It
> was played to death many years ago on the radio.  Not bad, if you like
> Charlie Daniels...but there is a boat load of quality fiddle music that
> is not on mainstream radio.

                              I think that is is so weird that we
                            are talking about this because I
                          remember listening to that song
                        for the first time and loving
                      it...I went right out and
                   bought the CD...to this day
                it is still the only country
              CD that I own...see ya'll...

                                          -Cojab Paul Radnoel

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 17:37:44 -0600
From: "Jeremy L. Orr" (jorr02@ozarks.sgcl.lib.mo.us)
Subject: Frank, Slowdive, MBV & Labradford


First, from Micah Newman:

> On Fri, 3 Mar 1995, Steven Titus wrote:
>
>> I found a "new release" from Frank Black called "Talk to Me" on the new
>> releases list. It was supposed to be released Feb. 28. Does anyone know
>> what it is all about?
>
> I don't know about any new Frank Black album, but I saw him a week ago
> at The Underground, Santa Barbara. He played about four new songs, so a new
> album would certainly be expected pretty soon. That guy just churns out new
> songs like nobody else, even Kristin Hersh.

Yeah, well, too bad he can't even get near her in terms of quality (at
least, not anymore).  And I'm sure that since hardly anyone bought his
last album, Elektra's not too hot to throw another one out there yet.
And would Frank actually release an album called _Talk_to_Me_?  Come on...


Then, from Lawren Wu:

> Actually, Slowdive are officially off SBK.  This also means that the
> chances of "Pygmalion" reaching the U.S. are slim-to-none.  Opinion on
> this groups appears to be that if you want the album, get the import.

Now that Creation has signed a new distribution deal with Sony/TriStar,
is there any word on the possibility of a US release for _Pygmalion_?  I
know, if there were, we probably would have heard about it by now, but I
haven't given up hope.  Perhaps if we launched a massive letter-writing
campaign to the TriStar people..?  Also, I just recently heard the _5EP_
for the first time, and I really like it!  Would any fellow listies care
to comment on how the new album compares to this EP?


Then, from Brendon Macaraeg (in reference to MBV):

> I'm intrigued by what folks have posted from the Simon Reynolds article in
> Rolling Stone...

What article would this be, and what issue would I find it in?  It's good
to hear he's still writing - I loved his book "Blissed Out" (which
should be required reading for everyone on this list), but I haven't
heard that much from him since.


And lastly, from Lorraine Lelis:

> was anyone at that april 1994 maxwell's show?? did anyone else feel the
> pain i felt, waiting for slowdive and having to endure LABRADFORD???  i
> guess a lot of people do like them- including duncan of stereolab- but
> AAAGH slowdive didn't even like 'em....

This sounds like the typical response from a fan who was so amped to see
her idols that she was too patient to sit through a set by a band she was
unfamiliar with.  I'm sure this was exacerbated by said band being
Labradford; they're pretty challenging, and I'm sure they could be seen
as being "boring" live (in the sense of going to a rock show, even
Slowdive).  But hey, I've been guilty of that myself.  When I saw Galaxie
500 open up for the Cocteau Twins in 1991, I *HATED* them.  But a few
months later, when I heard them again under different circumstances,
their brilliance was revealed.


  Your two cents...

---Jeremy 


Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 19:35:31 -0500
From: Brendon Macaraeg (bqm1808@IS.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank, Slowdive, MBV & Labradford


>
>Then, from Brendon Macaraeg (in reference to MBV):
>
>> I'm intrigued by what folks have posted from the Simon Reynolds article in
>> Rolling Stone...
>
>What article would this be, and what issue would I find it in?  It's good
>to hear he's still writing - I loved his book "Blissed Out" (which
>should be required reading for everyone on this list), but I haven't
>heard that much from him since.
>

>
>---Jeremy


There's a thread on the MBV list going on about Jungle Music (which I
thought came from 4AD by mistake--this is what happens when you're on
several mailing lists; sorry), which I guess is a sub-genre of
techno...seems Kevin Sheilds has been extremely influenced by it
lately....The Reynolds article is in the latest RS, I guess the one with
Ethan Hawke on the front..not positive about that....

Also, since I don't pick up the British music weeklies that often, can
someone post some reviews of
the latest Slowdive album. I'm curious what the NME and MM had to say about
it. Not that it matters, but I'd be curious to know....

-B
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 19:08:30 +0000
From: Steve Bagwell (Stephen_Bagwell@BAYLOR.EDU)
Subject: Re: The Cranes in Cleveland!!!


the voice really isn't that childlike
i met her in dallas a few weeks back

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 19:13:19 +0000
From: Steve Bagwell (Stephen_Bagwell@BAYLOR.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank, Slowdive, MBV & Labradford


could you give me subscription info for mbv's list?


Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 17:54:15 EDT
From: Ed Klein/emotion (Ed_Klein/emotion.EMOTION@EMOTION.COM)
Subject: Re: Abstract magazine.


Brian Lyons  writes:

> This is a thislisty question. Does anyone have a complete list of all
>the Abstract magazine/record sets on Sweatbox records? I've only got
>one, Volume 6 which I picked up especially for the Xymox track, but the
>Chakk and Hula tracks are great as well. If someone can respond, please
>include artists and songs on each issue available. Are these pretty
>impossible to find these days? Thanks for any response. Brian.

Well, here's a track listing of the three compilation LPs.  Only #5 and #6 were
released by Sweatbox.


Life At the Top (Abstract Magazine #4)
Third Mind/Abstract 1984

Attrition              The Last Refuge
Pornosect              Disinformation
Nagamatzu              Muslim
A Primary Industry     Perversion
Possession             Performance Parts 1-3
Bushido                Extract From Beyond the Great Wall
Coil                   Homage to Sewage
Muslimgauze            Dissidents
Stress                 The Prayer Clock
The Loved One          A Diet of Nitro Glycerine
Legendary Pink Dots    The Lifesucker


Abstract Magazine #5
Sweatbox/Abstract 1985

Colourbox              Manic
Gene Loves Jezebel     Flame
And Also the Trees     Maps In Her Wrists And Arms
Swans                  Sealed In Skin
Cindytalk              Playtime
400 Blows              Fire And Water
Nyam Nyam              This Is the Place
Jazz Butcher           Leaving It Up To You
The Wolfgang Press     Fire Eater
Test Dept.             Fuel Foundation of the Nation


Abstract Magazine #6
Sweatbox/Abstract 1985

Chakk                  Theme
In the Nursery         Breach Birth
Clair Obscur           Smurf in the Goulag
A Certain Ratio        Sounds Like Something Dirty
The Anti Group         Ha
Workforce              Skin Scraped Back
Blurt                  Gravespit
A Primary Industry     They're Biting
Xymox                  Muscoviet Musquito
Hula                   Motor City Nightmare


--
Ed Klein
ed_klein@emotion.com