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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 14:19:05 MEZ
From: Carlos Sequeira (cseque@DONAU.BOKU.AC.AT)
Subject: Laika the Geek
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 14:36:24 +0100
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Heartburst
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 15:37:11 +0000
From: "Jon O. Kvebaek" (CEEJOK%TALOS.BITNET@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU)
Subject: Muses & Belly (was Re: Heartburst)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:48:23 EST
From: D Andrew Reynhout (andrew.reynhout@ANALOG.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD sampled & Siouxsie
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:57:00 -0500
From: DJ Guile (guile@DHP.COM)
Subject: Reply to 4AD sampled & Siouxsie
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:24:09 -0600
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Re: Muses & Belly (was Re: Heartburst)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 17:16:07 +0000
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Reply to 4AD sampled & Siouxsie
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:35:13 -0500
From: Adam J Weitzman (weitzman@INDIVIDUAL.COM)
Subject: FSOL vs MBM?
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:32:23 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: Magnetic Fields
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 14:24:56 -0500
From: Matthew D Horine (horinema@STUDENT.MSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: FSOL vs MBM?
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:32:22 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: FSOL vs MBM? [2]
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 15:12:32 -0800
From: Dhimant Patel (patel@SANGAMON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Muses & Belly (was Re: Heartburst)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 17:09:53 +0000
From: Gary Hill (G.J.Hill@ECS.SOTON.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: FSOL vs MBM?
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 15:55:16 -0500
From: Joe Luna (joealuna@QUIKNET.COM)
Subject: dcd ' i can see now' lyrics
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 15:08:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: muses muses muses!!! (kinda long)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 16:46:28 -0500
From: "Maura A. Smale" (mas5815@IS2.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: dcd ' i can see now' lyrics
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 16:47:17 -0600
From: kendal obermeyer (kobermey@UNLINFO.UNL.EDU)
Subject: jAZZ matazz
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 16:13:03 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@PSU.EDU)
Subject: Great Expectations
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 16:04:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: Reply to 4AD sampled & Siouxsie
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 15:57:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: two bands worth hearing
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 15:56:33 -0800
From: Brant Nelson (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: FSOL vs MBM?
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 19:01:10 -0500
From: Jeremy Orr (JNever@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Eau Vive
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 16:58:57 -0800
From: "Paul W. Francisco" (catcher@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD & Lisa Gerrard Samples
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 20:41:44 -0500
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Subject: Stuff in Boston
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 22:06:58 -0400
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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 07:20:20 -0500
From: The Purple Sage (purp@PCNET.COM)
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Well, the list won't let me go, and the address it returns for the list
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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 06:01:03 -0700
From: Anthony Chavez (alchemy@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: List manager address?

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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 14:19:05 MEZ
From: Carlos Sequeira (cseque@DONAU.BOKU.AC.AT)
Subject: 4ad e-mail address


GREETINGS ALL!

 does somebody know the 4AD E-mail address?? thanks very much!
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 i'm thinking of buying some items and would like to order them
 via 'Net, with credit card. that's easier, you know...

 carlos

Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 14:36:24 +0100
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Laika the Geek


I got the Laika and Germano albums the other day.

Both seemed a bit... shapeless at first. The Laika album was certainly
stranger than I had expected. Not strange as in "His-Name-Is-Alive-like-
coming-out-of-the-blue,-innocent,-totally-different-from-anything-
else" strangeness, but more an early eighties, Colin
Newsman/Wire/Crammed kinda strangeness. Knowing strangeness.

It's growing on me.

I still haven't got a handle on the Germano album, but that
"Psychopath" track scares me. A lot.

I have decided for you all that the two last tracks on the Throwing
Muses single are so totally great that you have never heard anything
as great, ever. So there!
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen


Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 15:37:11 +0000
From: "Jon O. Kvebaek" (CEEJOK%TALOS.BITNET@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU)
Subject: Heartburst


I picked up Breathless' Heartburst yesterday, and this is one album I'm
really starting to like... Has anyone got a discography? Opinions on
other albums by breathless?

While I was at it, I bought the TMC box set - and I must say that some
of the original versions are....great :) I was able to get the new
Throwing Muses ltd. as well - I think that album will be one of the great
ones this year...at least a very very good start.

I also bought Portishead (to make up my own mind) and it's - brilliant.

Right now I'm looking forward to see Throwing Muses and Belly live in
Glasgow. Anyone else on the list going there?

Jon 

"There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their home."
                                -- Ken Olson, President of DEC, World
                                   Future Society Convention, 1977


Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:48:23 EST
From: D Andrew Reynhout (andrew.reynhout@ANALOG.COM)
Subject: Muses & Belly (was Re: Heartburst)


> Right now I'm looking forward to see Throwing Muses and Belly live in
> Glasgow. Anyone else on the list going there?
>
> Jon 

   They're not really playing *together* are they?!?

   That would answer one of the great burning questions of modern Muse-dom.

   I once saw Belly and Kristin play on the same WEEKEND, across town
from each other in NYC.  (Neither admitted knowing that the other was
playing the previous/next night... :-)  That's as close as I thought
they'd ever come.  (Well, I once saw Tanya in attendance at a Muses
show...)
   I guess the scariest part of the idea is that Belly might have to
headline, at least in the US.  Is it the same in the real world?

   Andrew

Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:57:00 -0500
From: DJ Guile (guile@DHP.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD sampled & Siouxsie


On Thu, 19 Jan 1995, David Mccallum wrote:

>         Isn't Dead Can Dance sampled extensively on The Future Sound of
> London's "Papua New Guinea"?  (A track that owes so much to Meat Beat
> Manifesto's "Radio Babylon" it's pitiful.)
Yes.  It sampled Lisa Gerrard from "Dawn of the Iconoclast"

Also, Ultraviolet Catastrophe sampled "Echolalia" off of The Serpent's Egg
on their song "The Trip"

--Jason

Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:24:09 -0600
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Reply to 4AD sampled & Siouxsie

              20 Jan 95 11:57:00 EST" <2f1fedcf6167004@cdsmail.cdc.com>

>Isn't Dead Can Dance sampled extensively on The Future Sound of
> London's "Papua New Guinea"?  (A track that owes so much to Meat Beat
> Manifesto's "Radio Babylon" it's pitiful.)

Which gives me the chance to find out exactly what "Papua New Guinea"
is.  Is it an EP?  A single?  A full album?  Yust a song?

inquiring mind wants to know

___________________________________________________________________
Kent J. Vanderwaal
kjv@catherine.cim.cdc.com
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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 17:16:07 +0000
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Muses & Belly (was Re: Heartburst)


On Fri, 20 Jan 1995, D Andrew Reynhout wrote:

> > Right now I'm looking forward to see Throwing Muses and Belly live in
> > Glasgow. Anyone else on the list going there?
>
>    They're not really playing *together* are they?!?
>
>    That would answer one of the great burning questions of modern Muse-dom.

Relax, relax. They won't. There's a month in between, so they won't even
get to meet eachother...

>    I guess the scariest part of the idea is that Belly might have to
> headline, at least in the US.  Is it the same in the real world?

Looks like it is...the starting act is something like splash white water
something (I can't really remember, but I think there was some water
there). I might have listened too much to the new Muses album though.
Anyway, I've never heard of them before. I'm sure Mr. Norman knows -
'ello?

Cheers,
Jon 

"There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their home."
                                -- Ken Olson, President of DEC, World
                                   Future Society Convention, 1977


Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:35:13 -0500
From: Adam J Weitzman (weitzman@INDIVIDUAL.COM)
Subject: Re: Reply to 4AD sampled & Siouxsie


> Which gives me the chance to find out exactly what "Papua New Guinea"
> is.  Is it an EP?  A single?  A full album?  Yust a song?

It is a song by The Future Sound Of London.

It was available as a CD-single (with 8 mixes), and appears on the CD
_Accelerator_, both of which are on Jumpin' & Pumpin' Records in the UK.
There is no US distribution for these releases, but you can get the
imports (though I haven't seen the CD-single in over half a year). Don't
ask me about vinyl, because I don't know.

One mix of the song is also available in the US on the _Cool_World_
soundtrack, and another mix is on the UK _Ambient_Senses:_The_Vision_
compilation.

                                        - Adam J Weitzman
                                          Individual, Inc.
                                          weitzman@individual.com


Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:32:23 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: FSOL vs MBM?


David Mccallum asserts:
>        Isn't Dead Can Dance sampled extensively on The Future Sound of
>London's "Papua New Guinea"?  (A track that owes so much to Meat Beat
>Manifesto's "Radio Babylon" it's pitiful.)

Uh, isn't "Radio Babylon" on "Satyricon", which came out in 1992, a year
after FSOL's "Accelerator"?

Jens Alfke ________ OpenDoc Mnemonist _______ jens_alfke@powertalk.apple.com
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                         ...stay as you are


Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 14:24:56 -0500
From: Matthew D Horine (horinema@STUDENT.MSU.EDU)
Subject: Magnetic Fields


Can someone give me label info on the Magnetic Fields releases?  I have the
highway one, but I want to get the other two.  I think someone said they were
being re-released, but I forget when and what record label.  Also, wasn't there
some project with various singers (Sixths, maybe?)?  Anyway, if someone can
give me info on this I would greatly appreciate it.

A little bit jumbled,

Matt H
Michigan State University


Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:32:22 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: FSOL vs MBM?


> Uh, isn't "Radio Babylon" on "Satyricon", which came out in 1992, a year
> after FSOL's "Accelerator"?

  muahaha...a meat beat question. :)
  radio babylon is not on satyricon.
  helter skelter/radio babylon came out as a single in 1990. radio
  babylon later appeared on the single to psyche-out in two other
  mixed forms {probably shows up elsewhere, too}...
  just for the uninitiated, jack dangers is a superkool purrson and
  you should bow down and kiss his feet 'cuz his mixes & his music are
  da grooviest...
  anyone know what meat beat are up to, btw? i guess i should point
  the ? to the zombies list, but even though i'm subbed i forget the
  address...

  *k-j* ...gonna throw on storm the studio now...wheeee!...


Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 15:12:32 -0800
From: Dhimant Patel (patel@SANGAMON.EDU)
Subject: Re: FSOL vs MBM? [2]


>
> > Uh, isn't "Radio Babylon" on "Satyricon", which came out in 1992, a year
> > after FSOL's "Accelerator"?
>
>   muahaha...a meat beat question. :)
>   radio babylon is not on satyricon.
>   helter skelter/radio babylon came out as a single in 1990. radio
>   babylon later appeared on the single to psyche-out in two other
>   mixed forms {probably shows up elsewhere, too}...
>   just for the uninitiated, jack dangers is a superkool purrson and
>   you should bow down and kiss his feet 'cuz his mixes & his music are
>   da grooviest...
>   anyone know what meat beat are up to, btw? i guess i should point
>   the ? to the zombies list, but even though i'm subbed i forget the
>   address...
>
>   *k-j* ...gonna throw on storm the studio now...wheeee!...
>
_______________________________________________________

        IN OPTION THEY SAID THEY'RE TAKIN A BREAK AND BE BACK
        W/ A NEW LP SOON (95)

Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 17:09:53 +0000
From: Gary Hill (G.J.Hill@ECS.SOTON.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Muses & Belly (was Re: Heartburst)

              (was Re: Heartburst)" (Jan 20, 11:48am)

On Jan 20, 11:48am, D Andrew Reynhout wrote:
> Subject: Muses & Belly  (was Re: Heartburst)

>    They're not really playing *together* are they?!?
>
I don't think so unless its a one off in Scotland. The Muses are on a pretty
short tour in the early part of February, whilst Belly are playing a longer
tour late February/March. But Belly will be around to play a one off earlier
date in London so it is _possible_.

>    I guess the scariest part of the idea is that Belly might have to
> headline, at least in the US.  Is it the same in the real world?

I suspect the same thing would be true here, although Hips'N'Makers raised
Kristin's profile a little over here.

Gary

Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 15:55:16 -0500
From: Joe Luna (joealuna@QUIKNET.COM)
Subject: Re: FSOL vs MBM?


>  anyone know what meat beat are up to, btw? i guess i should point
>  the ? to the zombies list, but even though i'm subbed i forget the
>  address...
>
>  *k-j* ...gonna throw on storm the studio now...wheeee!...

>  Saw this message and I am wondering what and where is the zombie list.  I
am a fan of MBM.

   The last thing I heard or know of was that dangers did that Papa Brittle
CD ... hope that
helps.  You proably already new that.

-Luna-
  - Luna -


Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 15:08:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: dcd ' i can see now' lyrics


>and god conjures currents to break our fragile bones

   I thought it was "to break our fragile boats." Makes more sense doesn't
it?

                                           -Jacob Paul Leonard

Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 16:46:28 -0500
From: "Maura A. Smale" (mas5815@IS2.NYU.EDU)
Subject: muses muses muses!!! (kinda long)


hi all,

first off, i apologize to all who've already read this...my mailreader
fucked up late wednesday night and i wasn't sure if this message got
through.  my mailreader is supposedly fixed now, so i'll try it again...

well, wednesday was a muses-filled day...made up for my being sick as a dog!

the promo appearance at tower in nyc seems about the same as that
described by matt in boston...he said...

>Anyway, Throwing Muses played:  Bright Yellow Gun (you're kidding!), another
>University song, Bea, Furious, [Kristen's string breaks and she begins using
>a guitar belonging to an audience member], Counting Backwards, two more
>University songs, Jak (! from one of the Firepile ep's), Mania, and
>Two Step.  Very nice.

okay, the only difference was that we didn't get to hear two step.  :(
also kristin broke her pick during bright yellow gun (she said, "i busted
my unbustable pick!"), and dave dropped a drumstick during mania
(but recovered it quickly).  a great mini-show, but extremely bright
(that's the first thing kristin said when she walked onstage, "wow, it's
*bright* in here").  then they signed cd's and stuff, which was also very
cool.

*then* i got home just in time for the chat with tm on america online!
pretty average questions mostly (i got three answered!).  they said that
the u.s. tour will start in the pacific northwest in march and wind up in
the northeast in may, so watch out for them!  i downloaded a transcript
from aol, so i can send it to people if anyone wants it.

*also* someone asked if there was going to be a throwing muses
interactive/cd rom thing in the future, and they said that there already
is a promo thing for university (similar to the one warner did for lush
for the release of split...), and that it would be in the warner area on
aol.  well, i went there after the chat and it had just been uploaded
yesterday!  it's *big* (ca. 3.5 mg) and only for the mac now (kristin said
the pc version will be up in a few days), but sort of fun.  it has clips
from nearly every song from university, as well as a very cute picture of
ryder.  so, if you have access to aol, check it out!

p.s. (added 1/20) now also on aol in the mtv section are two pictures
(one of kristin and one of dave and bernard) taken during the aol chat
and uploaded within the past few days.

enjoy!

maura

"if i were a man i'd have a gun"




Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 16:47:17 -0600
From: kendal obermeyer (kobermey@UNLINFO.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: dcd ' i can see now' lyrics

              Jan 20, 95 03:08:00 pm

>
> >and god conjures currents to break our fragile bones
>
>    I thought it was "to break our fragile boats." Makes more sense doesn't
> it?
>
>                                            -Jacob Paul Leonard
>

Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 16:13:03 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM (jcy107@PSU.EDU)
Subject: jAZZ matazz


In message Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:30:44 EST,
  "the missing 8th dwarf: mopey"
   writes:


> i had huge tuning problems with my jazzmaster when i had the tremolo set
> to go both up and down.

I think this here is yr first problem.  The tremolos on those guitars are
designed to go down *only*.  If you insist on up-treming, then yr working
against the machine, and bound to screw something up.

> one i set it to go only down, and started using
> my chording hand to bend the string to "go up" i've ne'er gone out of
> tune.

see.

> i have, however found that both the nut on the tremolo bar
> "holder" and the nut on the output jack loosen quite often.  once
> onstage, right before a gig, i had to use plyier to pull the ouput jack
> back through and then tighten it.  the tremolo nut fell of once during a
> practice and i had to pull the front of the guitar and piece it back
> together.

This has never happened to me... yet.  Did you buy the guitar used?  Is it
really old?  Is it a Fender (yes there are other brands)?

The only problem I had was with the switch/bolt on the chrome plate near the
bridge that locks the tremolo in place.  In theory this bolt enables you to
lock the tremolo so that it will not move... all my bolt does is slide
around.  I also found the bride pickups to be *very* thin sounding.  Oh
yeah, my pickup selector switch was also messed up, but had it fixed under
the warranty (another reason to buy guitars new).

> it was nice though to see the "floating tremolo."

I took mine apart the first time I tried to restring it (couldn't stand the
9 gauge strings... I like 10's).  It's very cool haow the whole thing hides
under that plate.

> i just strum
> lightly, and tighten everything monthly...

I beat the hell out, keep breaking strings and so on... but no matter how
hard I work it, it always stays pretty close to the original tuning.
Beats my old guitar w/ a Floyd-Rose tremolo.

Anyone know what Slowdive play through?  Chapterhouse use Jaguars and
Telecasters, Medicine use Mustangs, some Roland hybrid, and some
stratocasters, Swervedriver use Jazzmasters and Les Pauls, and Drop 19's
(circa DELEWARE) use Gibson 335's and Jazzmasters.  SOnic Youth use
everything.

Just some more tech-talk.

           -jOHN

Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 16:04:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: Great Expectations


    I live in Utah and every once in a while our local "ALTERNATIVE" radio
station X96 does a thing called "Great Expectations" where they have about
five bands perform together and it's free.  Well I was listening to the
lineup for this on which takes place next month and headlining the concert
was non other than our wonderful "BELLY."  Why they are coming to do a free
concert is a wonder to me.  The only other group I can remember is
Everclear.(eeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkk)  I can't wait.  If anyone is close enough to
come and would like the exact date write me.

                                             -Jacob Paul Leonard

Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 15:57:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: Reply to 4AD sampled & Siouxsie


>>Isn't Dead Can Dance sampled extensively on The Future Sound of
>> London's "Papua New Guinea"?  (A track that owes so much to Meat Beat
>> Manifesto's "Radio Babylon" it's pitiful.)

>Which gives me the chance to find out exactly what "Papua New Guinea"
>is.  Is it an EP?  A single?  A full album?  Yust a song?

    You can find it on the "COOL WORLD" soundtrack.  It also has amazing
songs by Moby and Electronic if you like that kind of stuff.
                                              -Jacob Paul Leonard


Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 15:56:33 -0800
From: Brant Nelson (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: two bands worth hearing


I've been meaning to mention these two
albums for a while now:

Lida Husik / Beaumont Hannant
quite an excellent mini-album out on Astralwerks,
sorta ambient, very electronic, with nice vocals from Lida.

Papa's Gun - Bend
has anyone else heard this? they sent us a cd, and
it's pretty good in an 'approaching middle of the
road' sort of way (the same category i'd put
Madder Rose in, if you know what I mean). nothing
*really* uncommon, but some excellent songs
nonetheless.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 |  you can't chop down symmetry
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     |
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |

Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 19:01:10 -0500
From: Jeremy Orr (JNever@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: FSOL vs MBM?


Responding to a debate between David McCallum and Jens Alfke...

> David Mccallum asserts:
>> Isn't Dead Can Dance sampled extensively on The Future Sound
>> of London's "Papua New Guinea"?  (A track that owes so much to
>> Meat Beat Manifesto's "Radio Babylon" it's pitiful.)
>
> Uh, isn't "Radio Babylon" on "Satyricon", which came out in 1992,
> a year after FSOL's "Accelerator"?

Uh, no.  :G)  "Radio Babylon" was one of MBM's first singles, dating back to
the mid-to-late 80's.  I don't think it was ever included on an album
(definitely not _Satyricon_, anyway), although there were two remixes on the
US CD-single of "Psyche-Out".

Does anyone happen to know what MBM are up to these days?

from
    jEREMY oRR
        


Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 16:58:57 -0800
From: "Paul W. Francisco" (catcher@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Eau Vive

              19, 95 04:15:15 am

>From Brian Lyons:

>    Hi 4ad enthusiasts, just wanted to let you know about an ensemble I think
> many of you would appreciate. They are called Eau Vive and reside here in
> Seattle, Washington.

Thought I'd provide some input from someone who has seen them but has
no connection to the band...

I have seen them twice, though the first time I only caught the last
few songs of their set.  I had gone to see two other bands and had
never heard of Eau Vive previously.  My reaction to them was that
they were decent but needed some polishing.  Certain aspects were
really neat, such as their use of very non-standard string instruments
and drums.  I'm not going to get into what kinds these were because I
am not well-versed in it and quite simply don't know what they are
called.  Anyway, they were ok but I thought too one-dimensional.

The second time I saw them was this past Oct. 31, at Seattle's
Gloomstock, which was attended by about 10 people or so.  I made
sure to get there in time to see Eau Vive's whole set, and found that
they had in fact gotten more polished.  They sounded really good, and
the instruments were played much more dynamically.  I don't yet have
this tape that Brian mentioned, so I can't comment on that.

If you like the bands on Projekt then you may well like Eau Vive.
Also if you like 4AD stuff more in the lines of old Clan of Xymox
or This Mortal Coil or DCD.  If you are more of a Pixies/Muses
person and don't care for the more "gloomy" stuff, you probably
won't care for Eau Vive much.

--
Paul W. Francisco      "Awake unto stars washed by rains and cries
catcher@netcom.com      Awake into skies rich with sung refrain"
                                                - Eden


Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 20:41:44 -0500
From: Richard Singer (wk03814@WORLDLINK.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD & Lisa Gerrard Samples


    HM Cambridge  wrote:

>I'm listening to the soundtrack to the film Shopping and
>just noticed a sample of This Mortal Coil on the One Dove
>track.
>This is the only 4AD sample I've heard. Are there any others?

As a big fan of One Dove *and* This Mortal Coil, I'd appreciate it if you
supplied us with the name of the song . . .

    shabanashi  wrote:

>
>ivo said:
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Jan 1995, HM Cambridge wrote:
>>
>> > This is the only 4AD sample I've heard. Are there any others?
>> >
>> Well, of course, there's the Messiah song "Temple of Dreams" that samples
>> Song to the Siren, and there is another techno song that I enquired about
>> long ago, but never received a response, that samples "Daylight Dreams
>> and Echoes".

Again, please, what is the name of the song that samples this (last song
mentioned above)?  I remember this happening, I just don't remember
where it was . . .

>On the last No-Man album (forgot the title, Flowermouth?), there is
>a track that has a sample of Lisa Gerrard (Song of Sophia, I think)
>running through it.  This album also features Robert Fripp.

And David Mccallum  wrote:

>        Isn't Dead Can Dance sampled extensively on The Future Sound of
>London's "Papua New Guinea"?  (A track that owes so much to Meat Beat
>Manifesto's "Radio Babylon" it's pitiful.)

Now that would be interesting . . .  How does it compare to the Liz
Fraser on _Lifeforms_?

Anyway, coincidentally, right before I read these messages, I was wondering if
that was Lisa Gerrard being sampled in Juno Reactor's "Landing," on the
_Transmissions_ album.  Does anybody know?

-- Richard Singer


Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 22:06:58 -0400
From: Where is my Mind? (friday@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Stuff in Boston


        Towards the Within is playing at the Brattle Theatre Saturday at 9pm

        Bettie Seevert is playing at the Middle East Downstars Sunday at 9pm

        reid

Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 22:24:49 EDT
From: Ned Norland (nnorland@WALNUT.PRS.K12.NJ.US)
Subject: Unrest


I was wondering if anyone could recomend some other groups for an Unrest
lover, besides Air Miami (Unrest ][)...

-ned norland
nnorland@walnut.prs.k12.nj.us

BTW- If anyone has any live shows and is interested in trading, e-mail
me...


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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 22:43:41 -0500
From: Michael garrett (MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU)
Subject: Re: Unrest


I would say -- and this is a fairly uneducated recommendation -- that if you
are looking for bands that sound similar to unrest, the best place to look is
at all (or most) of the bands on TeenBeat, Mark's label.  Although none of
them some _the same_ as unrest, it is the best collection of *that sound*.
But outside of TB, I would check out LUNA, THE SPINANES, STEREOLAB, and a few
others I can't think of right now.  If anyone else can come up with others, I
would also like to know about them.  And how about some UNREST guitar tabs for
those of us so inclined...

mgarrett@depauw.edu


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