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Subject: new belly single
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 23:05:08 EST
From: MR NORMAN N LEVENSTEIN (ANKX77A@PRODIGY.COM)
Subject: Re: Slowdive Update
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 22:54:53 -0600
From: toaster oven (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Siouxsie
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 23:25:51 CST
From: Tom Nguyen (TNGUYEN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Gearheads of the world unite!
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 22:37:24 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Michael Brook
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 01:51:33 -0600
From: "Rory L. O'Connor" (roconn01@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)
Subject: Re: MBV inquiry (My Bunny Val...
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:02:08 +0100
From: Cord Walter (xeper@UNIXEN.HRZ.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE)
Subject: Helium
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 09:26:14 MDT
From: BCLAUXX0_at_WC-Oakland1@CCMAIL.WCC.COM
Subject: Re: Helium
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:57:28 -0500
From: Jason Eugene Heindl (JEHEINDL%AMHERST.BITNET@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU)
Subject: Michael Brook
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:33:57 -0500
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Rosewater Elizabeth (was:New Cocteau etc... type b and)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:14:44 +0100
From: Kjetil Kristiansen (kjetil.kristiansen@BAN.AID.NO)
Subject: Re: Early Scorn
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:42:26 +0000
From: "Jon O. Kvebaek" (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Fax
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:13:30 +0100
From: Kjetil Kristiansen (kjetil.kristiansen@BAN.AID.NO)
Subject: Germano Dates?
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 11:55:27 -0600
From: Brian M Miller (mubmm2@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU)
Subject: new slowdive
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 23:05:11 EST
From: MR NORMAN N LEVENSTEIN (ANKX77A@PRODIGY.COM)
Subject: CT Soul
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 04:34:20 -0500
From: Jan Hanford (jhanford@SHELBY.COM)
Subject: Reply to Slowdive Update
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 08:39:04 -0600
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Reply to Slowdive Update
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:40:26 -0600
From: Literati (literati@PRAIRIENET.ORG)
Subject: Re: Helium
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:25:07 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Helium
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 14:20:53 -0500
From: Donzail Harvey (donzail+@CMU.EDU)
Subject: Toward The Within, Columbus OH
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:15:17 -0500
From: "M. Christopher Jones" (mcjones@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU)
Subject: Kelly Deal
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:40:39 -0500
From: Elisabeth Reynolds (ereynold@ENCORE.COM)
Subject: d. engine/slowdive/FSA
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 16:19:16 -0500
From: "[spiraL]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Helium
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 16:03:56 -0500
From: Michael garrett (MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU)
Subject: Re: Slowdive Update
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 16:33:05 -0500
From: Jeremy Orr (JNever@AOL.COM)
Subject: blah blah blah blah uurffffpt!
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 16:40:04 -0500
From: Hk Kahng (FARRAGO@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: fax et al
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:11:14 -0600
From: toaster oven (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Gearheads
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 17:11:22 -0500
From: Jeremy Orr (JNever@AOL.COM)
Subject: HNIA recommendations, please
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 04:43:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: Coconut grove
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 05:10:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: oliver
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 19:35:54 -0500
From: jill (unrest@WAM.UMD.EDU)
Subject: Re: Siouxsie
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:02:01 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: Helium
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 19:51:23 -0500
From: "(David Gionfriddo)" (DscribeDC@AOL.COM)
Subject: DCD music on TV show
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 21:15:48 EST
From: Matt Krom (krom@MEDIA.MIT.EDU)
Subject: Throwing Muses in-store
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 21:27:57 EST
From: Matt Krom (krom@MEDIA.MIT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Siouxsie
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 19:15:12 -0800
From: "[ViVid zine...music" (jvivid@NETCOM.COM)

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 23:05:08 EST
From: MR NORMAN N LEVENSTEIN (ANKX77A@PRODIGY.COM)
Subject: new belly single


-- [ From: Norman Levenstein * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

does anyone know if/when the new belly single will be released in the
u.s.?
also, will it be the same as the u.k. version, or will they omit a
track in favor of some stupid "radio edit" of the single. no doubt the
omitted track would later show up as leverage to get us to buy some
silly compilation.

-bruce


Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 22:54:53 -0600
From: toaster oven (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Slowdive Update

              16 Jan 1995 18:17:04 -0600

>   I spoke to Slowdive's manager last Friday & she gave me
>   this update:
>   "Pygmalio" will not be released in the U.S. until Summer
>   or Fall. The band has indeed finally gotten free of the
>   dreaded SBK agreement and is currently label shopping.
>   She said taht she might have further info in a month.

does this mean that the Jan. 17th release date in the UK still stands? which
means there might be copies here by the end of the month? im biting my nails
down to the quicks (sp? bah...) waiting for new slowdive!
-joanna-

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 23:25:51 CST
From: Tom Nguyen (TNGUYEN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Siouxsie

              16 Jan 1995 14:17:05 -0800 from 

Can anyone tell me what the Morrissey/Siouxsie single, _Interlude_ sounds like?
I keep forgetting to go to Blockbuster and wait in line for those dumb listenin
g stations.

-tom

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 22:37:24 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Gearheads of the world unite!


> I would have to disagree.  If you already have one, you really don't need
> another.  Unless you want to alter one of them somehow (replacing the stock
> pickups with hi-gain pickups like I did), or want to sell yr newer one.
> All the talk about how older guitars sound better is just propaganda dished
> out by the industry to justify them selling vintage instruments for
> outrageous prices.  Spend the money on a different guitar... maybe a
> Gibson 335, or a Rickenbacher 330.  That, or get a Jaguar.  I'd like to get
> a Gibson Les Paul or a 335.  Expensive, though.

Hmm...

Anyone else play a Carvin?  I Looooove mine, at it was a good price.  I
think the guitar mags love 'em, too.  My friend just picked up this
fretless 6-string bass with active electronics for like $900 something,
and it's just beautiful.  I can't compare 'em to Jazzmasters, though,
cause I've never used one...

Anyway... also... anyone use the GSP 2101 (?) for anything?  I'm thinking
of buying one... but I want some feedback first.  Pun intended.  Ha ha.

                            n9344881@cc.wwu.edu
  "He who clearly apprehends the scheme of existence does not rejoice over
 life, nor repine at death; for he knows that external limits are not final."

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 01:51:33 -0600
From: "Rory L. O'Connor" (roconn01@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)
Subject: Michael Brook


to whoever it was that asked about michael brook:

he has a 1985 album on Opal called "Hybrid" which is indeed a
collaboration between him, Lanois and Eno.  you will like it if you like
"Live at the Aquarium", although it it a bit more sparse.  excellent though.
he also collaborated with the edge for the soundtrack to the movie
"Captive" which is equally as good.  includes an incredible song called
"Heroine" on which Sinead O'Connor sings.  Definately worth it.

have you checked out "Cobalt Blue"?

rory o'connor
roconn01@ozarks.sgcl.lib.mo.us


Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:02:08 +0100
From: Cord Walter (xeper@UNIXEN.HRZ.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE)
Subject: Re: MBV inquiry (My Bunny Val...


> > > 1 - "This Is My Bloody Valentine"
> > > 2 - "Ecstasy"
> > > 3 - "Strawberry Wine"
> > > 4 - "Ecstasy and Wine" (compilation of previous 2)
> > > 5 - "You Made Me Realise"
> > > 6 - "Feed Me With Your Kiss"
> > > 7 - "Isn't Anything"
> > > 8 - "Glider"
> > > 9 - "Tremolo"
> > > 10 - "Loveless"

> > The first album is called "this is your bloody valentine" ... not mine.
> > Also missing is "Sunny Sunday Smile".  I'm sure there is something else.

> 'Geek' Fever FEV5T  1985
> 'The New Record By. . .' kaleidoscope sound CS101  1986

> But I thought it was 'sundae' not 'Sunday'. . . anyway, I've seen it
> printed both ways in different mags, so...

there's also a flexi called 'sugar'


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Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 09:26:14 MDT
From: BCLAUXX0_at_WC-Oakland1@CCMAIL.WCC.COM
Subject: Helium


          Does anybody know if there is another Helium release besides
          _Pirate Prude_?

          b


Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:57:28 -0500
From: Jason Eugene Heindl (JEHEINDL%AMHERST.BITNET@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Helium


Yes, indeed, there are several other Helium releases.  Namely:
"The American Jean" 7"
"Hole In The Ground" 7"
a song Magic Box on Pop Narcotic comp. _Why Do You Think They Call It Pop?_
and a new 7" "Pat's Trick"

I also recieved in the mail today an advance tape of their first full-length
album, _The Dirt Of Luck_ due in mid-March on Matador Records.  I've only
listened to the tape once, but it is AMAZING!!!  Lots of stop and start
guitar crunches with Mary's sweet voice interspersed.  Pick up the new 7"
and you'll know what I mean!

heindl


Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:33:57 -0500
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Michael Brook


   I have a CD called _Hybird_ with Biran Eno and Daniel Lanois.  1985,
Opal that was remastered in 1990...distributed by Caroline.  It is much
darker than _Cobalt Blue_ but is enjoyable nontheless.  I've seen it in
local used stores, where I got mine, off/on for the last few years.

Timothy Conlon


TIM CONLON
U590@sysm.acs.Virginia.EDU

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:14:44 +0100
From: Kjetil Kristiansen (kjetil.kristiansen@BAN.AID.NO)
Subject: Rosewater Elizabeth (was:New Cocteau etc... type b and)


gks writes:
>I was reading December Alternative Press the other day, and towards the
>back their was a half page ad for a new band called "Rosewater
>Elizabeth", or "Rosemary Water-Something", or some similar permutation.
>From memory the ad describes their music as *not* being like Cocteau
>Twins, This Mortal Coil or Dead Can Dance, but yet takes elements from
>each of these influences to produce something where many others have
>failed. Also goes on about deep emotional music. Has anybody heard this
>band and can describe the music ?

This is probably old news by now, but I'm getting the digested version
so please have me excused:

It's 'Rosewater Elizabeth.'
I've only heard a couple of tracks, but what I've heard was pleasant.
Female vocals with sparse instrumentation. Another band from 'ethereal-land'.
As for a further description I actually think the description above works
well enough.

-kJeTiL

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:42:26 +0000
From: "Jon O. Kvebaek" (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Early Scorn


On Mon, 16 Jan 1995, jOHN yOCHIM wrote:

> In message Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:04:59 -0800,
> Godflesh's album PURE is Wonderful.  It's such an angry, uncompromising
> record.  Too bad it's written off as typical grind-death-doom core.
> The song PURE and PURE II especially.
>
> Anyone else like them?  Am I going to get flamed for this (recall the Weezer
> post?)
>
>      -jOHN is a pretty kitty

Oh, I love the only album I have - 'Streetcleaner'. How does this compare
to e.g. 'Pure'? (Maybe we should take this private...)
It's not like I listen to it every day - but when I'm in the mood...'You
breed / Like rats'...;)

On a more 4AD related topic...has anyone seen the 'This Rimy River'
graphic works book? And has anyone seen the very very limited edition of
it?

Jon 

"There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their home."
                                -- Ken Olson, President of DEC, World
                                   Future Society Convention, 1977

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:13:30 +0100
From: Kjetil Kristiansen (kjetil.kristiansen@BAN.AID.NO)
Subject: Re: Fax


vilexile  writes:

>I keep hearing about this FAX stuff on ambient@hyperreal.com but I have
>no idea what the hell they're talking about. Can someone here give me a
>short primer on the subject?

FAX is the name of a german label. (FAX +49-69/450464)
It concentrates mainly on ambient and trance. (Blue and Yellow circles,
respectively on the album covers). I think it is run by Pete Namlook.
If not he's atleast involved in most of the releases.
The label is appx.1.5 years old and, unlike 4AD :-), is extremely active.
I think they had more than 100 releases in their first year. If I also
add that many of the releases comes in limited copies (500 or so), you
understand that it is not easy for the eventual collectors.

As for the music I only have a couple of the ambient releases by Pete
Namlook (Air, Silence...), because I can't understand people who uses
trance for listening purposes, and I'm not a DJ anyway.
It is highly recommended, but it does sound "german" if you know what I
mean by that paradigm. They've released several compilations, so that
may be a place to start.

There's also a Fax-sublabel. which concentrates on releases where
Pete Namlook is not participating. (Atom Heart, Sad World, Houdini..)

Oh, and it does not end there. There is yet another sublabel called Y-T.
It's an attempt to bring ambient music up to the level of classical
music. Pete Namlook uses his real name Peter Kuhlmann, and co-operates
with classical musicians. Haven't heard any of it, but it does perhaps
sound like an ambient Dead Can Dance.

As for the availability of the Fax releases, I guess it's much of a "scene"-
thing.

-kJeTiL


Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 11:55:27 -0600
From: Brian M Miller (mubmm2@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU)
Subject: Germano Dates?

              4ad 

hey does anyone know 95 tour dates for lisa germano.  i recieved a thing
from 4ad with several artists on it, and there "plans" for 95.  it said
lisa was gonna continue her tour in early 95, so if anyone hears anything
please post...

MILLER

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 23:05:11 EST
From: MR NORMAN N LEVENSTEIN (ANKX77A@PRODIGY.COM)
Subject: new slowdive


-- [ From: Norman Levenstein * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

is the new slowdive cd out in the UK yet?

-bruce

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 04:34:20 -0500
From: Jan Hanford (jhanford@SHELBY.COM)
Subject: CT Soul


>>
   jEREMY oRR said:

If I were pressured to make a judgment on the issue (c'mon, pressure me!),
I'd say that Liz & the Cocteaus do have soul, for what it's worth.  Even
though I have no idea what she's singing 99.9% of the time - and I don't want
to know, either - the music is still emotionally powerful enough to reduce me
to tears if I'm in the right (or perhaps, wrong) state of mind.  And that's
enough soul for me.
>>

I think this statement is the essence of music-loving.  Tit's one of the
most intelligent remarks I've heard on this opinion/flame/ego-ridden list.
Well done!

Jan


==================================================================
Jan Hanford - Logika Inc. - Walter Shelby Group Ltd.
jhanford@shelby.com - Internet Software Developers
==================================================================

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 08:39:04 -0600
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Reply to Slowdive Update

              16 Jan 95 18:17:04 CST" <2f1b0d0753e0002@cdsmail.cdc.com>

>I spoke to Slowdive's manager last Friday & she gave me this update:
>"Pygmalio" will not be released in the U.S. until Summer or Fall. The
>band has indeed finally gotten free of the dreaded SBK agreement and is
>currently label shopping. She said taht she might have further info in a
>month.

Thanks for making my day.  #$%*!&|+=


___________________________________________________________________
Kent J. Vanderwaal
kjv@catherine.cim.cdc.com
"gifted child, omouidashite yo"
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Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:40:26 -0600
From: Literati (literati@PRAIRIENET.ORG) >This may be a bit off axis for the list (what isn't these days ?) I >recently heard some advance material from the forthcoming Poster Children >album. I hadn't heard anything from these guys (+ girl) beforehand, >just that they were punk/pop/rock, but 4 or 5 of the new songs >definitely hit 10/10 on the beautiful/melodious/noise scale. If you've >heard the song "Beautiful Things" by the New Zealand band The 3D's >you'll know what I mean. The Poster Children are AMAZING! They're from right here in Champaign-Urbana. They've got three albums and an EP, any of which I recommend whole-heartedly. My favourite is the second album, _Daisychain Reaction._ I wouldn't call them punk-pop so much as power pop. Loud and aggressive, but definitely not three-chord punk. Literati ____ // \\ () I'll be told that I'm grown when I turn twenty-one \_/ // () But I won't really feel it // So I'll dress up in black and be melodramatic / --literati@prairienet.org

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:25:07 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Helium


> Yes, indeed, there are several other Helium releases.  Namely:
> "The American Jean" 7"
> "Hole In The Ground" 7"
> a song Magic Box on Pop Narcotic comp. _Why Do You Think They Call It Pop?_
> and a new 7" "Pat's Trick"

eck... for those of us lucky enough to have a turntable...

> I also recieved in the mail today an advance tape of their first full-length
> album, _The Dirt Of Luck_ due in mid-March on Matador Records.  I've only
> listened to the tape once, but it is AMAZING!!!  Lots of stop and start
> guitar crunches with Mary's sweet voice interspersed.  Pick up the new 7"
> and you'll know what I mean!

Weren't they supposed to have this out last October?

                            n9344881@cc.wwu.edu
  "He who clearly apprehends the scheme of existence does not rejoice over
 life, nor repine at death; for he knows that external limits are not final."


Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 14:20:53 -0500
From: Donzail Harvey (donzail+@CMU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Helium


they also have a song on the WGNS gots no station compilation vol 2.
it's just mary playing her guitar and some one else playing a cello
along with her.

dScott

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:15:17 -0500
From: "M. Christopher Jones" (mcjones@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU)
Subject: Toward The Within, Columbus OH


DEAD CAN DANCE >>Toward the Within<<

Just a reminder that >>Toward The Within<< will be shown at the Wexner
Center for the Arts on Saturday, January 21 with screening times at 7:30
and 9 pm. The Wexner Center for the Arts is located on the campus of the
Ohio State University at North High Street and 15th Avenue. Call
(614)292-2354 for ticket information.

-Chris

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:40:39 -0500
From: Elisabeth Reynolds (ereynold@ENCORE.COM)
Subject: Kelly Deal


Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear  wrote:

>The latest update (seen on MTV News -- where else?) is that Kelly is free
>on bail until a grand jury decides whether to indict her for possession.

If all they're changing her with is "simple possession",
chances are pretty slim that she'll have to do any time,
even if she is indicited and found guilty.

However, if she's being indicted under federal law, it's
going to be worse than if she were charge with the exact
same crime under the laws of most states.  Still, even in
that case I doubt she would get a jail or prison stentence,
especially if this is a first offense.

>I don't know how easy it would be to bust her for that.  I mean, they might
>as well bust FedEx for transporting the junk.  All she did was SIGN for
>it.  Sure, she may have KNOWN what it was, or maybe not.

I agree that common sense would indicate that it would be
pretty hard to prove intent, but there are some pretty strange
drug laws on the books in the US.  One never knows.

--

ereynold@encore.com

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 16:19:16 -0500
From: "[spiraL]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: d. engine/slowdive/FSA


difference engine.
does anybody have their address...
(the dreampop band, not the chili peppers
one)
i want to get a hold of breadmaker.

and any info on flying saucer attack
such as places to order their stuff,
discog, anything else...
i just bought a 7" (silver cover)
and its the most incredible thing ive
heard in a long time...

i know that slowdive wont be
out in the states until summer or fall...
but i saw on the creation web site that
the release was slated for feb. 6....
the newsletter said jan 30...

anyone have suggestions on how their are
going to obtain this here in the US??
i am trying to figure out how im going to
get it...
suggestions please!!

thanks.

                        ---> [spiraL]
                        99lear@lab.cc.wmich.edu

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 16:03:56 -0500
From: Michael garrett (MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU)
Subject: Re: Helium


I was just looking at my Matador catalogue today...

Helium, as far as I know, have no other proper releases other than a smattering
of 7"s here and there (incl. the quite good Pat's Trick thru Matador), some
work on many a compilation (incl. Rock Stars Kill, and the Pop Narcotic comp.).
>From what I've heard tho, there will be a full length album out within a few
months...but who knows...

But if you really like Helium, check out the pre- Helium/Slant6/etc band
AUTOCLAVE...

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 16:33:05 -0500
From: Jeremy Orr (JNever@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Slowdive Update


On 95-01-17 03:22:06 EST, bighat@ripco.com (Sanz) spake:

> I spoke to Slowdive's manager last Friday & she gave me this
> update:
> "Pygmalio" will not be released in the U.S. until Summer or Fall.
> The band has indeed finally gotten free of the dreaded SBK
> agreement and is currently label shopping. She said taht she might
> have further info in a month.

Thank god that they and the rest of the Creation stable has been able to
wangle their way from the clutches of SBK.  But now that Creation has a
distribution deal with new Sony offshoot TriStar, why isn't the new Slowdive
being released that way?  The new album is coming out on Creation in the UK,
yes?

Just checking...

from
    jEREMY oRR
        

"?"

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 16:40:04 -0500
From: Hk Kahng (FARRAGO@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: blah blah blah blah uurffffpt!


>Yesterday I re-listened to the last (hopefully) moonshake Jr. record.
>What a bunch of shite!!!  Really, it lacks everything Moonshake used to
>have.  I especially _*HATE*_ how Dave plays down Mig's drumming... You can
>barely tell it's him!!!  AAARRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

It's just my opinion, but I think Dave played down Mig's drumwork because drums
are mostly incidental window dressing on that album. In fact, _Sound Your Eyes
Can Follow_ sounded to me more like a Threepenny Opera big band swing record
fashioned out of soundbites and samples.  Admittedly it is an intentionally and
aggravatingly difficult album (although a bit more easy listening than... oh,
let's say a Borbetomagus LP), and even though I find myself listening to the
Laika album more frequently, I still think it's brilliant.

A slight aside here, but a friend of mine saw them playing a gig in London with
the Brotzmann Trio, and she told me that the Moonshake set was pretty much a
freejazz jam.  Hmmm, is MC 300ft Callahan trying to be Cecil Taylor (sans
piano)?...

Incidentally, I think John and Mig made one hell of a bass'n'drums tag team.
Too bad the rest of the band couldn't get along....

>>Also, I found a '62 Jazzmaster (red w/ white pickplate and red headstock, in
>>excellent condition) at a local store for $869.  Is it worth it?  I've just
>>got one of the mid-eighties reissues now, and for the sake of obsession, I'd
>>kinda like to have the real thing.
>
>I would have to disagree.  If you already have one, you really don't need
>another.  Unless you want to alter one of them somehow (replacing the stock
>pickups with hi-gain pickups like I did), or want to sell yr newer one.

Agreed.  Unless you happen to be one of those vintage collector types (or if you
just happen to have a large chunk of money burning a hole in yr pocket), I'd say
stick with the one you've got.  The Japanese reissues are competently made and
good-sounding instruments, and I seriously doubt anyone's going to be deducting
shoegazer points just because you're not playing a gen-u-ine 60's vintage git.

But sometimes, there is no rhyme or reason in the purchasing and selling of
guitars.  Personally, I'd suggest that you cure yourself of that vintage
obsession (only because it's not healthy for your pocketbook), but if a '62
Jazzmaster is going to make you happy, then heck, go for it.  $869 isn't a bad
price at all (I think the kollectorskum in these parts would ask $1200+ for
something like that... the bastards).

>Not many people
>   play jAZZMASTERS and jAGUARS.

The bridge design on the Jazzmaster and the Jaguar is awful, period.  It has no
sustain to speak of, and any amount of semi-enthusiastic strumming usually
results in a string or two slipping on the bridge grooves and going horribly out
of tune.

That said, I will add that the Jazzmaster does have a great jangly sound (and a
surprisingly hum-free one at that), and the tremolo is wonderful.  With minimal
adornment, it makes a fantastic surf rock guitar, and with all the digital and
analog trimmings it can make a truly heavenly racket.

But then again, what do I find myself strumming nowadays?  A Telecaster.  :)

> Godflesh's album PURE is Wonderful.  It's such an angry, uncompromising
> record.  Too bad it's written off as typical grind-death-doom core.
> The song PURE and PURE II especially.

_Streetcleaner_, _Pure_'s immediate predecessor, is even more angry and even
more uncompromising.  I had the mixed fortune of seeing Godflesh when they were
touring in support of _Streetcleaner_ (I say mixed fortune, only because
Nocturnus and Napalm Death were also on the bill - it was the tragi-comically
monikered Grind Crusher tour), and they were simply amazing.

I haven't listened to _Pure_ in years, but "Pure II" is their twenty-minute
Eno-experiment, isn't it?  I remember Justin and Benny telling me that
_Music for Airports_ is one of their all-time fave albums.  It kinda makes
sense, really.  Too bad the new album sounds so milquetoast.

Oh, word has it that Justin is now a bigtime Red House Painters fan.

Whatever,



hk

"I went out to the forest and caught 100,000 fireflies..." - The Magnetic Fields

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:11:14 -0600
From: toaster oven (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: fax et al

              17 Jan 1995 13:13:30 +0100

>   As for the availability of the Fax releases, I guess
>   it's much of a "scene"- thing.

it just depends on where you look and what you're looking for. i went to my
neighborhood Sound Exchange yesterday and saw about 10 fax cd's. i have no idea
if the ones there are *rare rare rare*, but everything i have heard on fax is
excellent, both trance and ambient. if you are interested in or like ambient,
try any of the rereleases on instinct records.  these are domestic rereleases,
and although much clatter has been made over the mastering quality on the
ambient list, i have a few of them and find them constantly in or near my cd
player. i believe all are two cd sets at one cd prices (grrrrreat value!).  ex.
air 1 and 2, sad world 1 and 2, alien community 1 and 2, silence 1 and 2, and
the arbitrarily titled fax compilation (2 cds also.) i am especially enamored of
air...its just amazing.  there is an air track on excursions in ambience #3
(astralwerks) if you'd like to hear a taste of air (heh :)). in the words of
jack rabid (who i owe money, and if you're reading this, the money order is in
the mail), help poor pete! (peter kuhlmann/namlook, the proprietor of fax.)
-joanna-
word of the day : glossolalian
no i am not a promo person for fax. i wish i was tho, i might get more wunderbar
fax cd's.


Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 17:11:22 -0500
From: Jeremy Orr (JNever@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Gearheads


Hey, I just wanted to say thanks to all the people who responded to my post
about my gear questions.  (Should've sent it to the Dreampop list,
too...damn!)  I figured I'd get flamed for it, but it's been really
interesting to see what everyone has to say.

>From crnholio@NETCOM.COM (Rick Stone):

> Whats wrong with the remolo feature (in the eq section of all places) on
> your GT?  I used  to have one myself and used it to get perfectly timed
> tremolo/vibratos.

Wow, really?!?  Jeez, I'll have to look into that.  I guess that's why my mom
used to say "If all else fails, read the instructions".

> I like to see someone else using a rack-box.  I feel so un-indie using
> my cheezeball ART, but I have having to fuck with pedals.  Its all about
> consistency.

Agreed.  I like having everything in one little box, to mix and match with
precision.  Some can go on about the supposed warmth of old pedals and how
they like not being able to control them, etc etc.  But for my money, I
prefer the rack unit.  I especially like the Alesis for its reverb, which has
a really nice, grainy texture I haven't found elsewhere.

>From kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM:

> What's the appeal of the Jazzmaster?  I know it's gots lots of
> switches on it but what do they do?

For me, the appeal of the Jazzmaster (and the Jaguar) is mostly due to the
special kind of "floating" tremolo system that it has.  I'm not sure how it
works, but all I know is that I can absolutely beat the shit out of that
thing, and all the strings will remain in tune (or at least, close enough so
as not to "sonically offend" anyone before ending the song and getting a
chance to retune).  As it happens, I also think that they're incredibly
beautiful pieces of machinery.

And thanks to jcy107@PSU.EDU (jOHN yOCHIM) for his suggestion about the new
pickups - very interesting!  I need to take mine in anyway (to fix a few
buzzing noises that my switches seem to be causing), so I'll look into that.

Thanks again,
from
    jEREMY oRR
        

The ever-developing sig...SSKREEEEEEOOOOOOOWWOOWWW!!!

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 04:43:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: HNIA recommendations, please


>   I'm interested in giving a listen to His Name Is Alive.
>Would some of you like to recommend a good place to begin?
>Thanks,

     My favorite question in the whole world!!!!  I think Mouth By Mouth is
the most accesible but Home Is In Your Head is what I would suggest!! It is
my favorite!!!   GoOd LuCk!!!!
                                               -Jacob Paul Leoanrd
                                                jleonard@st.ceu.edu


Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 05:10:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: Coconut grove


   Could everyone who wrote me about THE COCONUT GROVE please write me back.
I lost your addresses.  SORRY!!!
                                                     -Jacob Paul Leonard
                                                      jleonard@st.ceu.edu

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 19:35:54 -0500
From: jill (unrest@WAM.UMD.EDU)
Subject: oliver


would anyone happen to know where i could find a copy of oliver vaughn's
(sp?) book in the d.c./b-more area and also how much it costs?

thanks!
--
jill

"everybody on-line" ...irresistible force


Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:02:01 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: Siouxsie


>Can anyone tell me what the Morrissey/Siouxsie single, _Interlude_ sounds like?
>I keep forgetting to go to Blockbuster and wait in line for those dumb listenin
>g stations.
>
>-tom
>

SAPPY, SAPPY, SAPPY.  I found it depressing and boring.  I'm a big fan of
Siouxsie and like Morrissey quite a bit too, but I couldn't stand to listen
to it more than a couple of times before I returned it to the record store
for trade.  Of course, this is just my opinion; but i hated it!

-Tony


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     Tony Jacobson                              tonyman@xmission.com

     << Disclaimer:  I'm not a TV actor, but I play one on TV. >>
***************************************************************************

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 19:51:23 -0500
From: "(David Gionfriddo)" (DscribeDC@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Helium


I would be willing to bet that they have stuff on samplers or indie 7"s
somewhere, but I know for certain that "In a Little Box" is on the Pop
Narcotic double 12" lo-fi compilation "Why Do You Think They Call It Pop?"
 That's something anyway.

Dave G.


Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 21:15:48 EST
From: Matt Krom (krom@MEDIA.MIT.EDU)
Subject: DCD music on TV show


Just a tidbit -- I heard "Mother Tongue" from "The Serpent's Egg" used as
background music for a documentary tonight on The Learning Channel.  The
show was called "After the Flood", it was about river engineering, and
interestingly enough the music was accompanied by aerial views of rivers,
similar to the cover of the album!

Matt

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 21:27:57 EST
From: Matt Krom (krom@MEDIA.MIT.EDU)
Subject: Throwing Muses in-store


Tonight I saw the Muses' promotional gig in Cambridge (Boston).  Great
stuff!  I really like the new bassist (almost but doesn't quite make up
for the horrible current Belly bassist, who can neither sing nor play.  Best
Muses/Belly bassist:  Leslie Langston, who I saw with Belly before the
release of Star!!)

Anyway, Throwing Muses played:  Bright Yellow Gun (you're kidding!), another
University song, Bea, Furious, [Kristen's string breaks and she begins using
a guitar belonging to an audience member], Counting Backwards, two more
University songs, Jak (! from one of the Firepile ep's), Mania, and
Two Step.  Very nice.

Try to catch their promotional tour!  I'm listening to University now...
one more button undone ...

-Matt


Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 19:15:12 -0800
From: "[ViVid zine...music" (jvivid@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Siouxsie


I'm sorry, but all I can say is YUCKYUCKYUCK....

And THIS coming from someone who has loved Siouxsie from
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back...J   :)

------------------------------------------- jvivid@netcom.com
"violet smiles hide my eyes/try and catch
me unaware/but I'm wise/I don't lie/A sensation
to hide..." - violet (S.F.)
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On Mon, 16 Jan 1995, Tom Nguyen wrote:

> Can anyone tell me what the Morrissey/Siouxsie single, _Interlude_ sounds like

> I keep forgetting to go to Blockbuster and wait in line for those dumb listeni

> g stations.
>
> -tom
>