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Subject: more ESP
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:49:26 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@netcom.com)
Subject: HIS NAME IS ALIVE
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 02:16:03 -0600
From: "Rory L. O'Connor" (roconn01@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)
Subject: his name is aliver
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 00:44:24 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: 1995 releases
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 09:20:39 +0000
From: "A.J. Norman" (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: After a long break...
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:24:20 -0800
From: "Peter C. Lee" (eahu597@ea.oac.uci.edu)
Subject: Balil ep desperately wanted
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:55:27 -0800
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lyrics / low
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 10:26:29 +0000
From: HM Cambridge (hmc4@tmphost.york.ac.uk)
Subject: sex lives of the stars...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:28:21 -0800
From: bmilner (bmilner@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: a.r. kane question
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 10:45:19 GMT
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Breeders
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 12:56:20 +0100
From: Patrick Asselman (patrick@STACK.URC.TUE.NL)
Subject: Re: His Name Is Alive Demostuff
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 04:10:44 -0800
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: Re: a.r. kane question
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:28:33 +0000
From: "A.J. Norman" (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Lyrics / low
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 11:38:42 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Lori Carson/Golden Palominos
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:08:43 -0800
From: Julian Stewart (camus@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: HNIA
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 15:13:06 -0600
From: "Rory L. O'Connor" (roconn01@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)
Subject: Re: HNIA
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:42:43 -0800
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: tea tree oil soap too! what a doll!
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 16:43:44 -0600
From: missy pepper (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: UVS
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 17:53:19 -0500
From: John Walker (jwalker@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA)
Subject: japan '87 12" comp available!
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 17:37:52 EST
From: MR NORMAN N LEVENSTEIN (ANKX77A@PRODIGY.COM)
Subject: His Name Is Alive/Slack/Licorice/Toomey
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 05:22:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: Throwing Death around.....
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 16:25:51 -0800
From: ivo (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: FROM THE FLAGSTONES lyrics!?!? anyone!?!?1
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 18:49:02 -0600
From: kendal obermeyer (kobermey@UNLINFO.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Lush _Cookie_
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 18:52:43 -0500
From: Marvyn Hortman (HORTMAN_M@HCCS.CC.TX.US)
Subject: 4AD Poster set #2
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 14:30:11 U
From: Douglas Wirnowski (dwirnowski@MEDIOR.COM)
Subject: help!
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 23:30:56 -0500
From: "[spiraL]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)

Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:49:26 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@netcom.com)
Subject: more ESP


  i'm looking, quite desperately as of this moment, for the
  ESP-Beetles album "with the". if anyone can help me find
  it, i'll be your best friend...

  your nearly flooded-out listie, *k*

Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 02:16:03 -0600
From: "Rory L. O'Connor" (roconn01@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)
Subject: HIS NAME IS ALIVE


I just got through reading the eyesore database info. on HNIA and was
wondering if anyone owns or knows how to get a hold of any or all of
the  releases warren released on his own:
 "Love can't buy happiness"
"Blissfield"
"New Stars, New Tongue"
"Hecklebuck #7"
"Riotousness and Postrophe"
-any of the original mixes of their 4ad releases

any information leading to the discovery of these beautiful pieces of
music would be greatly appreciated!

thanks,
rory

Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 00:44:24 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: his name is aliver


On Thu, 5 Jan 1995, Rory L. O'Connor wrote:

> I just got through reading the eyesore database info. on HNIA and was
> wondering if anyone owns or knows how to get a hold of any or all of
> the  releases warren released on his own:

  the hnia tapes listed on eyesore or 'king of sweet' are deceiving
  to the regular everyday fan. the home tapes listed are not publically
  available as far as i know, the only two tapes that *were* at one
  point were love can't buy happiness and rioutousnes & postrophe.
  from what i gather, the home tapes are now completely unavailable.
  the other tapes listed are basically demos of songs in various
  forms that the band work with. however, as it stands..i could be
  dead wrong about this all. warren records so much music and releases
  a variety of works in "side projects" that you probably couldn't set
  foot in livonia without tripping over a piece of music that warren
  was involved in. within three days, i've discovered 4 non-hnia
  warren projects that have music available to the public. i'm in the
  midst of gathering some of this info. for the Huge Evegrowing
  Pulsating HNIA Discography but i doubt i'll get it all together.
  there's just *too much*...and i have slightly better things to
  do with my free slacker time {like work on my own music} than hunt
  down everything that has been graced with warren's musical presence
  {ie...i need some help with this discog now}...

  perhaps if you ask real nice, some kind soul will dub their home
  tapes for you. there are nice listies on here who migt be more
  than willing to help out in your quest...

  *k-j* ...when faced with evacuation, take only what is important
  to you: warren's guitar pick, ltd. 4ad cds, 3 rolls of undeveloped
  film, a toothbrush & toothpaste, various letters friends have
  written, your pets, and a 17 year old stuffed animal that has great
  sentimental value...


Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 09:20:39 +0000
From: "A.J. Norman" (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: 1995 releases


>From this month's "Select":

5001 The Wolfgang Press "Going South" (9 Jan)
        7  - "Going South" (7" version), "Going South" (Country style)
        CD - Both 7" tracks, plus
             "Going South" (@440 mix), "Chains" (Wobble mix)
        12 - "Going South" (@440 mix), "11 Years" (Sabres main mix 2),
             "Christianity" (Sherwood mix)

5002 Throwing Muses "University" (16 Jan)
        CD, LP, Cassette, limited special CD
        The catalogue number wasn't on the ad, but I assume it's 5002

5003 Belly "Now They'll Sleep" (23 Jan)
        2 track 7/cass, 4 track 12/CD, no track details.
        Album to follow on 13 Feb.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 05/01/95
On my walkman this morning : The Family Cat - Magic Happens
Night closes round, and they are lost for ever:

Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:24:20 -0800
From: "Peter C. Lee" (eahu597@ea.oac.uci.edu)
Subject: Re: After a long break...


hey, please check out the lush velvet thing out for me:
     and tell me what it is, if it's the "for love e.p" get it for me and
i'll pay you back! write to me on my personal e-mail...thanks a lot!

                        pete    >
> Lastly, I saw downtown a velvet cased Lush CD, but was in a rush and had
> no time to check out the details.  What is it, and should I get it?
>
> Has anyone listened to the new AR Kane.  What's the verdict.  The song
> staring off Volume 10 is excellent, so I'm hoping.
>
> Hope everyone has had a good break, and I thank all of you for not
> sending too much mail and crashing my system like when I went to Japan
> for a week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>


On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Trevor wrote:

> Just back from the holidays, and boy does it suck to be in the office.
> But then again, I get to see all you guys again (awww).  Anyway.
>
> Got the new DCD.  Has anybody commented yet on the pathetic US packaging
> of the CD.  I mean the booklet paper must be .001 microns thin!
> I'm sorry to harp on something that has nothing to do with
> the acoustics of a music product, but as I've said before, I think 4ad is
> a whole aesthetic.  As for the disc itself, I haven't given it the full
> exposure, but having been there in person I'll stick with the real thing.
>
> Got Pale Saint's Flesh Balloon.  Enjoyable.  Now I only wish I had Mrs.
> Dolphin and I would be complete.
>
> After further review, I give Glee Club/Mine thumbs up.
>
> Lastly, I saw downtown a velvet cased Lush CD, but was in a rush and had
> no time to check out the details.  What is it, and should I get it?
>
> Has anyone listened to the new AR Kane.  What's the verdict.  The song
> staring off Volume 10 is excellent, so I'm hoping.
>
> Hope everyone has had a good break, and I thank all of you for not
> sending too much mail and crashing my system like when I went to Japan
> for a week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>


On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Trevor wrote:

> Just back from the holidays, and boy does it suck to be in the office.
> But then again, I get to see all you guys again (awww).  Anyway.
>
> Got the new DCD.  Has anybody commented yet on the pathetic US packaging
> of the CD.  I mean the booklet paper must be .001 microns thin!
> I'm sorry to harp on something that has nothing to do with
> the acoustics of a music product, but as I've said before, I think 4ad is
> a whole aesthetic.  As for the disc itself, I haven't given it the full
> exposure, but having been there in person I'll stick with the real thing.
>
> Got Pale Saint's Flesh Balloon.  Enjoyable.  Now I only wish I had Mrs.
> Dolphin and I would be complete.
>
> After further review, I give Glee Club/Mine thumbs up.
>
> Lastly, I saw downtown a velvet cased Lush CD, but was in a rush and had
> no time to check out the details.  What is it, and should I get it?
>
> Has anyone listened to the new AR Kane.  What's the verdict.  The song
> staring off Volume 10 is excellent, so I'm hoping.
>
> Hope everyone has had a good break, and I thank all of you for not
> sending too much mail and crashing my system like when I went to Japan
> for a week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>


On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Trevor wrote:

> Just back from the holidays, and boy does it suck to be in the office.
> But then again, I get to see all you guys again (awww).  Anyway.
>
> Got the new DCD.  Has anybody commented yet on the pathetic US packaging
> of the CD.  I mean the booklet paper must be .001 microns thin!
> I'm sorry to harp on something that has nothing to do with
> the acoustics of a music product, but as I've said before, I think 4ad is
> a whole aesthetic.  As for the disc itself, I haven't given it the full
> exposure, but having been there in person I'll stick with the real thing.
>
> Got Pale Saint's Flesh Balloon.  Enjoyable.  Now I only wish I had Mrs.
> Dolphin and I would be complete.
>
> After further review, I give Glee Club/Mine thumbs up.
>
> Lastly, I saw downtown a velvet cased Lush CD, but was in a rush and had
> no time to check out the details.  What is it, and should I get it?
>
> Has anyone listened to the new AR Kane.  What's the verdict.  The song
> staring off Volume 10 is excellent, so I'm hoping.
>
> Hope everyone has had a good break, and I thank all of you for not
> sending too much mail and crashing my system like when I went to Japan
> for a week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>


On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Trevor wrote:

> Just back from the holidays, and boy does it suck to be in the office.
> But then again, I get to see all you guys again (awww).  Anyway.
>
> Got the new DCD.  Has anybody commented yet on the pathetic US packaging
> of the CD.  I mean the booklet paper must be .001 microns thin!
> I'm sorry to harp on something that has nothing to do with
> the acoustics of a music product, but as I've said before, I think 4ad is
> a whole aesthetic.  As for the disc itself, I haven't given it the full
> exposure, but having been there in person I'll stick with the real thing.
>
> Got Pale Saint's Flesh Balloon.  Enjoyable.  Now I only wish I had Mrs.
> Dolphin and I would be complete.
>
> After further review, I give Glee Club/Mine thumbs up.
>
> Lastly, I saw downtown a velvet cased Lush CD, but was in a rush and had
> no time to check out the details.  What is it, and should I get it?
>
> Has anyone listened to the new AR Kane.  What's the verdict.  The song
> staring off Volume 10 is excellent, so I'm hoping.
>
> Hope everyone has had a good break, and I thank all of you for not
> sending too much mail and crashing my system like when I went to Japan
> for a week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>


On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Trevor wrote:

> Just back from the holidays, and boy does it suck to be in the office.
> But then again, I get to see all you guys again (awww).  Anyway.
>
> Got the new DCD.  Has anybody commented yet on the pathetic US packaging
> of the CD.  I mean the booklet paper must be .001 microns thin!
> I'm sorry to harp on something that has nothing to do with
> the acoustics of a music product, but as I've said before, I think 4ad is
> a whole aesthetic.  As for the disc itself, I haven't given it the full
> exposure, but having been there in person I'll stick with the real thing.
>
> Got Pale Saint's Flesh Balloon.  Enjoyable.  Now I only wish I had Mrs.
> Dolphin and I would be complete.
>
> After further review, I give Glee Club/Mine thumbs up.
>
> Lastly, I saw downtown a velvet cased Lush CD, but was in a rush and had
> no time to check out the details.  What is it, and should I get it?
>
> Has anyone listened to the new AR Kane.  What's the verdict.  The song
> staring off Volume 10 is excellent, so I'm hoping.
>
> Hope everyone has had a good break, and I thank all of you for not
> sending too much mail and crashing my system like when I went to Japan
> for a week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>


On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Trevor wrote:

> Just back from the holidays, and boy does it suck to be in the office.
> But then again, I get to see all you guys again (awww).  Anyway.
>
> Got the new DCD.  Has anybody commented yet on the pathetic US packaging
> of the CD.  I mean the booklet paper must be .001 microns thin!
> I'm sorry to harp on something that has nothing to do with
> the acoustics of a music product, but as I've said before, I think 4ad is
> a whole aesthetic.  As for the disc itself, I haven't given it the full
> exposure, but having been there in person I'll stick with the real thing.
>
> Got Pale Saint's Flesh Balloon.  Enjoyable.  Now I only wish I had Mrs.
> Dolphin and I would be complete.
>
> After further review, I give Glee Club/Mine thumbs up.
>
> Lastly, I saw downtown a velvet cased Lush CD, but was in a rush and had
> no time to check out the details.  What is it, and should I get it?
>
> Has anyone listened to the new AR Kane.  What's the verdict.  The song
> staring off Volume 10 is excellent, so I'm hoping.
>
> Hope everyone has had a good break, and I thank all of you for not
> sending too much mail and crashing my system like when I went to Japan
> for a week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>


On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Trevor wrote:

> Just back from the holidays, and boy does it suck to be in the office.
> But then again, I get to see all you guys again (awww).  Anyway.
>
> Got the new DCD.  Has anybody commented yet on the pathetic US packaging
> of the CD.  I mean the booklet paper must be .001 microns thin!
> I'm sorry to harp on something that has nothing to do with
> the acoustics of a music product, but as I've said before, I think 4ad is
> a whole aesthetic.  As for the disc itself, I haven't given it the full
> exposure, but having been there in person I'll stick with the real thing.
>
> Got Pale Saint's Flesh Balloon.  Enjoyable.  Now I only wish I had Mrs.
> Dolphin and I would be complete.
>
> After further review, I give Glee Club/Mine thumbs up.
>
> Lastly, I saw downtown a velvet cased Lush CD, but was in a rush and had
> no time to check out the details.  What is it, and should I get it?
>
> Has anyone listened to the new AR Kane.  What's the verdict.  The song
> staring off Volume 10 is excellent, so I'm hoping.
>
> Hope everyone has had a good break, and I thank all of you for not
> sending too much mail and crashing my system like when I went to Japan
> for a week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>


On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Trevor wrote:

> Just back from the holidays, and boy does it suck to be in the office.
> But then again, I get to see all you guys again (awww).  Anyway.
>
> Got the new DCD.  Has anybody commented yet on the pathetic US packaging
> of the CD.  I mean the booklet paper must be .001 microns thin!
> I'm sorry to harp on something that has nothing to do with
> the acoustics of a music product, but as I've said before, I think 4ad is
> a whole aesthetic.  As for the disc itself, I haven't given it the full
> exposure, but having been there in person I'll stick with the real thing.
>
> Got Pale Saint's Flesh Balloon.  Enjoyable.  Now I only wish I had Mrs.
> Dolphin and I would be complete.
>
> After further review, I give Glee Club/Mine thumbs up.
>
> Lastly, I saw downtown a velvet cased Lush CD, but was in a rush and had
> no time to check out the details.  What is it, and should I get it?
>
> Has anyone listened to the new AR Kane.  What's the verdict.  The song
> staring off Volume 10 is excellent, so I'm hoping.
>
> Hope everyone has had a good break, and I thank all of you for not
> sending too much mail and crashing my system like when I went to Japan
> for a week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>



On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Trevor wrote:

> Just back from the holidays, and boy does it suck to be in the office.
> But then again, I get to see all you guys again (awww).  Anyway.
>
> Got the new DCD.  Has anybody commented yet on the pathetic US packaging
> of the CD.  I mean the booklet paper must be .001 microns thin!
> I'm sorry to harp on something that has nothing to do with
> the acoustics of a music product, but as I've said before, I think 4ad is
> a whole aesthetic.  As for the disc itself, I haven't given it the full
> exposure, but having been there in person I'll stick with the real thing.
>
> Got Pale Saint's Flesh Balloon.  Enjoyable.  Now I only wish I had Mrs.
> Dolphin and I would be complete.
>
> After further review, I give Glee Club/Mine thumbs up.
>
> Lastly, I saw downtown a velvet cased Lush CD, but was in a rush and had
> no time to check out the details.  What is it, and should I get it?
>
> Has anyone listened to the new AR Kane.  What's the verdict.  The song
> staring off Volume 10 is excellent, so I'm hoping.
>
> Hope everyone has had a good break, and I thank all of you for not
> sending too much mail and crashing my system like when I went to Japan
> for a week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>


On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Trevor wrote:

> Just back from the holidays, and boy does it suck to be in the office.
> But then again, I get to see all you guys again (awww).  Anyway.
>
> Got the new DCD.  Has anybody commented yet on the pathetic US packaging
> of the CD.  I mean the booklet paper must be .001 microns thin!
> I'm sorry to harp on something that has nothing to do with
> the acoustics of a music product, but as I've said before, I think 4ad is
> a whole aesthetic.  As for the disc itself, I haven't given it the full
> exposure, but having been there in person I'll stick with the real thing.
>
> Got Pale Saint's Flesh Balloon.  Enjoyable.  Now I only wish I had Mrs.
> Dolphin and I would be complete.
>
> After further review, I give Glee Club/Mine thumbs up.
>
> Lastly, I saw downtown a velvet cased Lush CD, but was in a rush and had
> no time to check out the details.  What is it, and should I get it?
>
> Has anyone listened to the new AR Kane.  What's the verdict.  The song
> staring off Volume 10 is excellent, so I'm hoping.
>
> Hope everyone has had a good break, and I thank all of you for not
> sending too much mail and crashing my system like when I went to Japan
> for a week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>


On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Trevor wrote:

> Just back from the holidays, and boy does it suck to be in the office.
> But then again, I get to see all you guys again (awww).  Anyway.
>
> Got the new DCD.  Has anybody commented yet on the pathetic US packaging
> of the CD.  I mean the booklet paper must be .001 microns thin!
> I'm sorry to harp on something that has nothing to do with
> the acoustics of a music product, but as I've said before, I think 4ad is
> a whole aesthetic.  As for the disc itself, I haven't given it the full
> exposure, but having been there in person I'll stick with the real thing.
>
> Got Pale Saint's Flesh Balloon.  Enjoyable.  Now I only wish I had Mrs.
> Dolphin and I would be complete.
>
> After further review, I give Glee Club/Mine thumbs up.
>
> Lastly, I saw downtown a velvet cased Lush CD, but was in a rush and had
> no time to check out the details.  What is it, and should I get it?
>
> Has anyone listened to the new AR Kane.  What's the verdict.  The song
> staring off Volume 10 is excellent, so I'm hoping.
>
> Hope everyone has had a good break, and I thank all of you for not
> sending too much mail and crashing my system like when I went to Japan
> for a week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>


On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Trevor wrote:

> Just back from the holidays, and boy does it suck to be in the office.
> But then again, I get to see all you guys again (awww).  Anyway.
>
> Got the new DCD.  Has anybody commented yet on the pathetic US packaging
> of the CD.  I mean the booklet paper must be .001 microns thin!
> I'm sorry to harp on something that has nothing to do with
> the acoustics of a music product, but as I've said before, I think 4ad is
> a whole aesthetic.  As for the disc itself, I haven't given it the full
> exposure, but having been there in person I'll stick with the real thing.
>
> Got Pale Saint's Flesh Balloon.  Enjoyable.  Now I only wish I had Mrs.
> Dolphin and I would be complete.
>
> After further review, I give Glee Club/Mine thumbs up.
>
> Lastly, I saw downtown a velvet cased Lush CD, but was in a rush and had
> no time to check out the details.  What is it, and should I get it?
>
> Has anyone listened to the new AR Kane.  What's the verdict.  The song
> staring off Volume 10 is excellent, so I'm hoping.
>
> Hope everyone has had a good break, and I thank all of you for not
> sending too much mail and crashing my system like when I went to Japan
> for a week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>


Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:55:27 -0800
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Balil ep desperately wanted


Sorry for the huge crosspost but I've been after this record for
about half a year and have now completely exhausted my resources. I'm
talking about Parasight. If anyone can point me in the direction of
someplace that you know for a fact has it, or would consider obtaining a
copy for me and mailing it, I'd be ever in your debt. Failing that, might
someone sell me their own copy or make me a dub? I would really apreciate
this.

I've crossposted this to 4AD-L, the World Serpent list, IDM, and the
Ambient list, so you can delete your other three copies. ;) Thanks for
listening...


 einexile

ps - please respond privately, especially you idm'ers since in a clear
violation of netiquette i don't subscribe there (not that i wouldn't like
to)

Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 10:26:29 +0000
From: HM Cambridge (hmc4@tmphost.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: Lyrics / low


Lyrics

I managed to get the Lonely is an Eyesore vid
cheap last week and looking at the CT clip either
Liz doesn't know the words to her own songs, she
likes to make her own up now and again or there's
some really awful lip-syncing (if that's the right
term). I find that the acoustics you get when you're singing
in the bath can approximate to what she's singing. Although,
for me a few octaves lower.

Low

I got the 'I could live in hope' CD by Low at Chrimbo. There's
some really dark, sad , depressing music on this. A bit like
Slowdive minus some of the swirly guitars. For instance
the track - Sunshine ( a well known {English} football chant).

'' You are my sunshine
   My only sunshine
   You make me happy
   when skies are grey ''

Played at the pace of a funeral march would make even the
happiest of bunnies shed a tear.

'H'

8 days without nicotine and ready to lapse.

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:28:21 -0800
From: bmilner (bmilner@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: sex lives of the stars...


Dear List,

        I think the reason so many people are curious about the sex lives
of certain well known rock stars, especially, for example, Elizabeth F.
from the Cocteau Twins is that for years, their own sex lives have
mingled with said famous person's.  I must confess I have kissed and
generally rolled around in bliss with several people while listening to
them. Even when I wasn't actually (which was 99% of the time) , it always
FELT like I was kissing someone when I heard them.

        Therefore, it kind of makes you curious how it must feel to them.
Being on the inside, making the music that makes you feel so delicious.

        Just my opinion of course.  I personally think all good music has
some sexual element in it.  Whether if it is agressive, or shyly and
delicately introverted, it all feeds from the same sort of desires,
insecurities and other emotions. or... Maybe that is just because I'm a
musician myself (I play in LILY) and I'm insane :)

Brandon Milner
bmilner@netcom.com


Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 10:45:19 GMT
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: a.r. kane question


jv wrote:

> hey, i saw a cd in the store today by a.r. kane, rather it was a.r.k.
> on the sleeve so i assume it was alex and rudi ; i think it was called
> " the rain comes down hard" or something about rain coming down... it
>had about 6 or 7 tracks, i think . I 've never seen this in the discog,
> is it really a.r. kane?

Early on, perhaps soon after 69 was released, A.R. Kane, or some close
approximation to it, certainly did release a record under the name A.R.K.
I think it was a different kind of music for them (at that time), being
"danceable" and they consequently chose not to release it as A.R. Kane.
The only A.R.K. track I remember hearing was really dull and uninteresting
(imho).

Simon

Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 12:56:20 +0100
From: Patrick Asselman (patrick@STACK.URC.TUE.NL)
Subject: Re: Breeders

              Jan 4, 95 12:34:28 pm

>   I recently saw a Breeders CD called "Double Troube"  recorded live
> during the 1993 tour.  Any comments?
>
> Timothy Conlon

It's a bootleg. The quality is said to be good. In fact, I'm hoping to
own it pretty soon (after my credit card comes in :-)

Here's what the new Breeders discography will say about it:

Double Trouble
CD KTS223 (1993)

Iris (3'11), Cannonball (3'55), Saints (2'34), Hag (2'25), Fortunately Gone
(1'50), When I Was a Painter (2'46), Doe (2'06), Limehouse (1'54), Only in 3's
(3'39), Doe (2'05), Hellbound (2'46), Safari (3'13), Happiness is a Warm Gun
(2'40), Glorious (2'38), Do You Love Me Now? (3'02), Don't Call Home (4'01),
Fortunately Gone (2'00), I Just Wanna Get Along (1'54), When I Was a Painter
(3'57), Limehouse (1'59), Iris (3'33), Opened (2'22)

Bootleg. Only in 3's is really Glorious. Glorious is really Driver from Honey To
gue's album Nude Nudes.
(Yes, Josephine does sing it!)
As far as known the CD was taped at two shows. One in Amsterdam in '92 and one i
 '93.
The CD says it was recorded on tour in 1993.

---PAtrick---
patrick@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl

Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 04:10:44 -0800
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: Re: His Name Is Alive Demostuff


Let's see...when LIVONIA came out, I notice the CD booklet had an
address for information and tapes, so I wrote to the address
USA]. and was mailed an information sheet, and told to contact 4AD
USA in New York.  I happily did that and was told by 4AD USA to
contact Star Artist again (this happened two times more and by this
time HOME IS IN YOUR HEAD had come out).  Finally, Warren called me
(see what happens when you put your number on letters) and gave me a
bunch of information about two tapes...

Tape one:'1985-1989 STUFF/EARLY WORKS'
Side A:
_Riotousness and Postrophe_
Princessly / either or / Thoughts / Darkest Dreams / I disappear /
never wanted to have said / A Time there nearby / glancing passes /
again not still / little waves
_ Had Sex With God_
If July / As We Could Ever / Some and I / Daringest
_His Name Is Alive_
The other body / Ascension / Reincarnation / Hey Porter
Side B:
_Livonia-Home .mix_
Free jazz w/purchase / Fossil / You and I have Seizures / E-Nicolle /
Caroline's Supposed Demon / Fossil / Some and I / How Ghosts Affect
Relationships / e-nicolle / Cecil's Been Demeanor
--
Tape two:'LOVE CAN'T BUY HAPPINESS'
Side A:
_Love Can't Buy Happiness_
Ode on a Dave Asman / Fascinated By A Willing Body / Your Suspicions
Need A Heaven / sitting still moving still staring outlooking / Are
We Still Married? / Why people disappear / 88 Naked Women / Your
Suspicions Need A Heaven / "Livonia" / R U Coming Down This Weekend?
/ Angel, Angel down we go
Side B:
_instrumentals_

Scene I, Act 2(The Drowning Girl) / Bullfrog / birds / Xmas / very
bad a bitter hand / fingers

He said they were $7.00 each and to send cash.
The first copy of 'Love Can't Buy Happiness' I recieved was blank on
side two, so I re-ordered it and he sent me a HNIA-LIVONIA T-Shirt,
The Dirt Eaters CDSingle, Postcards, and a 4AD pin--oh, and a new
copy of LCBH too! (GLOAT) :D

!! WARNING : WRITE FIRST AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY MORE COPIES LEFT !!

shane@trex.org


Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:28:33 +0000
From: "A.J. Norman" (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: a.r. kane question

              95 10:45:19 am

Simon Hughes  wrote:
>
> jv wrote:
>
> > hey, i saw a cd in the store today by a.r. kane, rather it was a.r.k.
> > on the sleeve so i assume it was alex and rudi ; i think it was called
> > " the rain comes down hard" or something about rain coming down... it
> >had about 6 or 7 tracks, i think . I 've never seen this in the discog,
> > is it really a.r. kane?
>
> Early on, perhaps soon after 69 was released, A.R. Kane, or some close
> approximation to it, certainly did release a record under the name A.R.K.
> I think it was a different kind of music for them (at that time), being
> "danceable" and they consequently chose not to release it as A.R. Kane.
> The only A.R.K. track I remember hearing was really dull and uninteresting
> (imho).

This was "Listen Up!", which came in a golden-reddish sleeve.  I'm
pretty sure it was vinyl only, it was certainly on Rough Trade, and as
Simon says it was issued just after "69".  It was fairly similar to
"Pump Up the Volume", but not as good.  I don't know what the situation
is with ARKane in the US at the moment - in the UK they are on the 3rd
Stone label.  It may be that they have issued an EP of "dance" tracks,
but I doubt it - I suspect this is another band using the name A.R.K.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 05/01/95
On my walkman this morning : The Family Cat - Magic Happens
Night closes round, and they are lost for ever:


Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 11:38:42 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: Lyrics / low


As for the observation regarding the Cocteau Twins LIAE video for "Crushed",
it is due to poor editing, as opposed to any fault of Liz.

Her mouth is moving to the words fine, but the words aren't moving with
her mouth.  Videos are typically filmed and then edited, with the music
overdubbed in the final process.  Under normal circumstances, the move-
ments of the band and the "singing" of the vocalist would synchronize
in the end result.

Nigel Grierson was using what appears to be a Super 8mm to film "Crushed".
It has a fairly amateurish quality to it.

But isn't it *lovely* to watch?


Mike


Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:08:43 -0800
From: Julian Stewart (camus@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Lori Carson/Golden Palominos


On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Einexile wrote:

> How prominent are her vocals on the album? I've been a fan of hers for
> years. It's probably been out of print for a decade but she put out a
> solo album at one point.

Then I have _two_ bits of very good news for you, my friend:

1) Her vocals are rather prominent on the album....in an interview, Anton
        Fier said that about 70% of the album's material was written by
        Carson.

2) Fier is currently producing Carson's second solo album....supposedly, out
        sometime in May or June.

-julian-

Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 15:13:06 -0600
From: "Rory L. O'Connor" (roconn01@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)
Subject: HNIA


Does anyone own any of the self-released His Name Is Alive material?
if so, please mail me.

also, does anyone know how i can get a hold of the 4AD video of "13-year
itch"?

thanks,
rory


Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:42:43 -0800
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: HNIA

              O'Connor" at Jan 5, 95 03:13:06 pm

Hi all,

I just joined the list today, so here's my first contribution.

> Does anyone own any of the self-released His Name Is Alive material?
> if so, please mail me.

Its called "King of Sweet".  I think that its out of print now, but I
could be wrong.  It was only available through mail order.  I, of course,
am too lazy to bother with mail order, so I don't have it.  Any opinions?
Not of my laziness, but of the album!

> also, does anyone know how i can get a hold of the 4AD video of "13-year
> itch"?

I have a friend who has one (who lives in the UK), but it was only
available in PAL format, and he doesn't have a way (inexpensively, at
least) of copying it for me.

Good luck,

Rick


Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 16:43:44 -0600
From: missy pepper (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: tea tree oil soap too! what a doll!


xf

Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 17:53:19 -0500
From: John Walker (jwalker@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA)
Subject: UVS


Hi.

Just reading over the current FAQ and was distressed re the "where
are they now?" section dealing with ultra vivid scene.  Does anyone
know what Kurt Ralske is up to now?  It's been some time since REV,
and no word.  Hope he's OK.

The FAQ implies that Kurt was suffering from a bit of artistic
hubris, and sadly, that may have been the case.  I met him on the
last tour, and you couldn't ask for a nicer guy, no big ego at all;
however, either he or 4AD (or both) had him booked into far too big a venue,
which made the smallish crowd that turned up look even worse,
and he was carting around some fairly expensive NY session men such as
Knox Chandler--they sounded great, but I thought his previous touring
band, which featured the Breeders current bassist, Josephine Wiggs,
had just as much firepower.

Whoever was to blame for all this, It would be great to have Kurt
back on the scene.  He's a very talented guy.

Anyone with any current info, please let me know.

jw

Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 17:37:52 EST
From: MR NORMAN N LEVENSTEIN (ANKX77A@PRODIGY.COM)
Subject: japan '87 12" comp available!


-- [ From: Norman Levenstein * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

to all interested persons,

there is one copy of the 4ad 1987 12" compilation japanese import cd
available
at Digital Daze in Ohio. the ph# is 216.630.3600. i don't know if
they'll ship it to you. see if you can get them to hold it - then send
me the money and i will pick it up. sorry, i don't have the cash to put
out up front. if they don't like holding it, ask for Ron(the owner) and
tell him your a friend of mine.

-bruce levenstein

Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 05:22:00 M
From: Jacob Paul Leonard (JLeonard@ST.CEU.EDU)
Subject: His Name Is Alive/Slack/Licorice/Toomey


This is for you Rory but everybody else can read:

      Warren just called me about 10 minutes ago and I asked him about the
whole Slack/Jennifer Toomey thing, and this is what he said.

      They used to play under the name Slack but they are changing their name
to Licorice probably.  Warren said that it is all still up in the air.  He
said that Trey plays drums for them but they haven't decided wether or not
Warren will be in the band.  He said that if he is he will be playing bass
just like he did in Elvis Hitler. If not he will be running the sound.
     Their first gig will be Jan 13 in New Jersey somewhere, I forgot, sorry.
 Those of you who can find out and can go make sure to write about it on
here.
      Warren also said that Jennifer Toomey recorded her debut album in his
basement and he produced it.  It will be released in March sometime he said.
       About HNIA he said that for sure they will be coming out with an EP
this year and they will do a few selected dates.  In January of '96 he said
there will be an LP with a full tour to follow. YIPEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
       If any of you have questions he said that he would be happy to answer
them through me and I can post them here.  That is all. Rory I will write you
a personal letter right now. See ya.

                                Love,
                                       Jacob Paul Leonard
                                       -jleonard@st.ceu.edu

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 16:25:51 -0800
From: ivo (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Throwing Death around.....


It was interesting to me (and I thought I'd share it with you all) last
night when I found a copy of Dr. Death's Volume 1 from 1986 (on C'est La
Mort, of course) with Throwing Muses' "Fish" on it.  There was an address
for their manager and all, but no mention of 4AD, so I assumed it was
right before Throwing Muses signed to 4AD.  Anyone know anything about
this?  Is this the version that is on the TM demo casette that so few
(like Mr. Heretic-Toc) have possession of?  or is it yet ANOTHER version
of the song?

Ivo

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My New Year's resolution is to kill someone....

.....what's yours?


beswick@scf.usc.edu

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 18:49:02 -0600
From: kendal obermeyer (kobermey@UNLINFO.UNL.EDU)
Subject: FROM THE FLAGSTONES lyrics!?!? anyone!?!?1

              3, 95 05:29:37 pm

okay, this much i can muddle through, but i'd reeeeeeeeeeally
appreciate help on lyrics to "from the flagstones" by the cocteau
twins...

   at times i've seen you from the balustrade
   at times i've seen you from the flagstones...

     Danke...Freak Freely...
        Kendal (kobermey@unlinfo.unl.edu)


Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 18:52:43 -0500
From: Marvyn Hortman (HORTMAN_M@HCCS.CC.TX.US)
Subject: Lush _Cookie_


Speaking of cookies!  A friend of a friend of a friend of mine was eating lunch
in Neiman Marcus one day.....


marvynHortman

PS I am taking serious flak for listening to Stina Nord. at work.  My boss (a
woman) just *hates* her. Oh well, I enjoy annoying my fellow-workers--just like
I enjoy annoying fellow-listservers with cookie stories.  :)

Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 14:30:11 U
From: Douglas Wirnowski (dwirnowski@MEDIOR.COM)
Subject: 4AD Poster set #2


My Reply:   4AD Poster set #2                        2:24 PM

Is there any interest/market for the second 4AD poster set that was released
back in 1989?1990?  There are 15 posters and the came packaged in a sturdy
cardboard roll tube.

And -- anyone interested in DCD / other" less-noteworthy" 4AD bands - please
send me your personal e-mail address / mailing address so I can forward them
to a great CD shop in Davis that specializes in hard-to-find and imported
discs (and a few tapes).



Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 23:30:56 -0500
From: "[spiraL]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: help!


has anyone written anything in the  past
48 hours?? i have gotten no messages from 4ad...
someone please help...
i havent gotten any messages in fact...
i normally get at least 10...
arghhhh!! maybe the server doesnt like me
anymore!!
thanks.

                                --->[spiraL]
                                99lear@lab.cc.wich.edu


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