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Subject: Re: !!! COCTEAU TWINS LYRICS !!!
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 19:52:17 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Lush
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 20:36:57 -0800
From: Julian Stewart (camus@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: hnia, euphoria
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 22:32:00 -0500
From: Henrique Fernandes (henrique.fernandes@canrem.com)
Subject: Re: Lush
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 22:56:06 -0800
From: Albert Alvarado (Baph0met@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: xYMOX
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 02:39:01 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Re: xYMOX
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 01:24:47 -0800
From: Heretic-Toc the Eastre Clock (payn@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: !!! COCTEAU TWINS LYRICS !!!
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 11:53:09 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: NO BAUBLES?
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:13:34 -0500
From: Neil Impelluso (neil.impelluso@CIRCELLAR.COM)
Subject: Re: M7X/Area Discog v1.1 (long-ish)
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 22:30:40 -0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: No Baubles
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 10:31:16 -0800
From: Andrea Parra (andrea@CSUA.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: No Baubles
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 10:41:32 -0800
From: "[ViVid zine...music" (jvivid@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: HTTP Site wanted....
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:20:11 +0100
From: Patrick Asselman (patrick@STACK.URC.TUE.NL)
Subject: Re: !!! COCTEAU TWINS LYRICS !!!
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:45:05 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Re: Trance Planet
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:17:44 -0500
From: Richard Singer (wk03814@WORLDLINK.COM)
Subject: Re: !!! COCTEAU TWINS LYRICS !!!
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:51:27 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Chris And Cosey
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:53:27 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Re: !!! COCTEAU TWINS LYRICS !!!
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:56:41 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: The Chameleons
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 19:04:17 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Re: NO BAUBLES?
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:00:36 -0600
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: CT Sex Lives
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 02:37:42 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Natures Mortes -- Still Lives
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:38:12 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: EDITOR=/usr/local/bin/emacs
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:12:42 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: "No Baubles"
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:59:14 -0800
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins' Break-up Rumour
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 00:45:41 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins' Break-up Rumour
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 20:10:40 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Re: What is 4AD?
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 00:48:55 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: lifeform
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:30:53 -0800
From: Juliet_OKeefe (okeefe@SFU.CA)

Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 19:52:17 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: !!! COCTEAU TWINS LYRICS !!!


There's one song on the Pink Opaque where she is singing about throwing
up.

Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 20:36:57 -0800
From: Julian Stewart (camus@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Lush


        Has anyone heard anything about a Japanese import called "Cookie"?
        Is it anything special or worth having?


        -julian-


Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 22:32:00 -0500
From: Henrique Fernandes (henrique.fernandes@canrem.com)
Subject: Re: hnia, euphoria


 RLO> does HIS NAME IS ALIVE do shows anymore?  i saw them about a year and
 RLO> a half ago (and loved it) and haven't seen them around anywhere since.
 RLO> if they do,  got any locations? dates?


 RLO> thanks,
 RLO> rory o'connor
I saw them last June in Toronto opening up for Slowdive.  They played
acoustic, and were amazing.  I actually got to interview them, and let me
tell you Warren is in fact a genius.  Anyways they said that they weren't
really touring that they had just been asked to play with Slowdive for a
one time only show.

Later



... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 22:56:06 -0800
From: Albert Alvarado (Baph0met@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lush


You wrote:

>
>        Has anyone heard anything about a Japanese import called
"Cookie"?
>        Is it anything special or worth having?
>
>
>        -julian-
>
>

         Greetings,


                  Well it seems that wherever you saw that listing it
was some sort of typo. It's suppose to be "Spooky". That's unless it's
something new from their new  Album which would be quite nice. Anyways,
if you could possibly look at the play list and see that it has Spooky's
songs with Fallin in Love and God's Gift as track 13 & 14 then it is
indeed a typo. The Japanese import of Spooky just has a short story of a
Japanese writer describing how Spooky is lush's *first* album and how
they where influenced by other bands like MBV and so on. There is also
all the lyrics to Spooky with the exception of Fallin in Love. On my
copy there was several typos as well in the lyrics.



cheers

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 02:39:01 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Re: xYMOX


Greetings,

I have to admit that I really like the new XYMOX disc, "Headclouds." I guess
I've listened to it enough times that it has really grown on me.

Does anyone know anything about this XYMOX remix disc? I saw it advertised on
...well, not advertised, but I saw it for son line at CDEURoPE. What is
on this disc? I also saw a disc called "DARK PLEASURES" which was "SUBSUQUENT
PLEASURES" + some live tracks. Can anyone please tell me more about te discs.
Are they worth having?

Finally, what exactly happened to Anka? Did she and Ron have a spat???

Any help into any of these matters whould be more than appriciated!!

Happy New Year!!

Alfred Douglas.


Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 01:24:47 -0800
From: Heretic-Toc the Eastre Clock (payn@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: xYMOX


>Fans, especially on this list, are desperate for bands to stay exactly the
>same.  If a band produces consistent, quality music forever in the same
>style I'm happy.  But every now and then a band changes its sound, usually
>forced by a personnel change.  I think sometimes artists get bored and
>challenge themselves with a new thing.  I know I do.  Sometimes the results
>are disappointing, like how most people found Headclouds.  But if you listen
>to it with fresh ears you can appreciate it more.

I actually don't mind a band drastically changing style (as long as they're
as good at their new style as at their old), but it'd be nice if they'd
change their name when they do. Certain bands (Chris & Cosey and Psychic
TV, for example) you expect to change drastically in style every once in a
while, drifting in and out of techno, going back and forth between pure
electronics and guitar-driven music, etc. But with most bands, it's
shocking, and a bit disappointing, to finally get that new album you've
been waiting for for the past two years and find that it's entirely
different music (e.g. the Soup Dragons' second album, Bad Religion's Into
the Unknown, Current 93...). Disposable Heroes of Hiphophrisy aren't the
Beatnigs, and they acknowledged that by changing their name.

In the case of Xymox, it's a little different, since their style changed
somewhat gradually over a span of quite a few years. If you were really
that shocked by Headclouds, you probably haven't been paying much attention
since they left 4AD.

I didn't mean to babble this long (or this seriously), so I'll leave off here.

 _____________________________________________________________________
/ payn@usc.edu \ "Everyone's a superhero; everyone's a Captain Kirk" \
\______________/________________________[Nena]_______________________/


Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 11:53:09 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: !!! COCTEAU TWINS LYRICS !!!


>There's one song on the Pink Opaque where she is singing about throwing
up.


What song might THAT be?  The only song I can think of that remotely
refers to throwing up might be "Sugar Hiccup", but that isn't on
"The Pink Opaque".

"The Spangle Maker" sort of sounds like she's singing about saliva or
snot or something. :) "...it's the droplet singing, broken winded,
broken winded, whistling..."


Mike

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:13:34 -0500
From: Neil Impelluso (neil.impelluso@CIRCELLAR.COM)
Subject: NO BAUBLES?


Howdy folks, got some thing in the mail today from 4AD, as probably a few of
you did too.  It looks like a card with some strange artwork on it and inside
it just says "No Baubles".  Does that mean Happy New Year in 4AD?  Or are they
promoting some upcoming book or compilation or whatever?  I'm confused.

 Neil



Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 22:30:40 -0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: M7X/Area Discog v1.1 (long-ish)


>>         *  I'll Gather Flowers is a remake? of an Area track
>>         from (which album??)

it's from "The Perfect Dream"

    -cz

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 10:31:16 -0800
From: Andrea Parra (andrea@CSUA.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: No Baubles


It
s
Ooops, I mean, it's the official 4AD Christmas card! I determined that the
design is a banana with a ripped stocking pulled over it... no, I really
don't know what the design is, but it is weird. Most record companies send
out Christmas cards to their good clients, etc. so this is just 4AD's version
of it.

Andrea

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 10:41:32 -0800
From: "[ViVid zine...music" (jvivid@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: No Baubles


I also got a funny Xmas card in the mail from Frontier records:

It features a devil in a santa suit, handing a bong to a little boy that
looks like one of the kids on "How the Grinch Stole Christmas", and the
little boy is also holding a bottle of wine and a pack of cigarettes.
Inside it says "Happy Hellidays from your fiends at Frontier Records."

------------------------------------------- jvivid@netcom.com
"violet smiles hide my eyes/try and catch
me unaware/but I'm wise/I don't lie/A sensation
to hide..." - violet (S.F.)
-------------------------------------------

On Mon, 2 Jan 1995, Andrea Parra wrote:

> It
> s
> Ooops, I mean, it's the official 4AD Christmas card! I determined that the
> design is a banana with a ripped stocking pulled over it... no, I really
> don't know what the design is, but it is weird. Most record companies send
> out Christmas cards to their good clients, etc. so this is just 4AD's version
> of it.
>
> Andrea
>


Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:20:11 +0100
From: Patrick Asselman (patrick@STACK.URC.TUE.NL)
Subject: Re: HTTP Site wanted....

              Oltraver" at Dec 25, 94 11:48:00 am

>         Could someone be so kind as to mail me the site of the Pixies
> Subbacultcha http site.  Thanks.  Santa was good to me today! O:)
> ___________________________Patrick Oltraver_________________________
>
Sure, Patrick. Always glad to promote it... :-)


While I'm at it. The site was out of the air this holiday, due to a
system crash. (What do you expect on an old system that's maintained by
students and was unattendable for a week!) But now it's back on the air.
And soon it will be on a faster machine (actually: two faster machines),
but you americans probably won't notice the difference due to
trans-atlantic-information-back-lane-traffic (it's not a HIGHWAY, that's
for sure!)

(Did anyone of you notice it was gone, or were you to busy drinking with
Santa?)

---PAtrick---


Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:45:05 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Re: !!! COCTEAU TWINS LYRICS !!!


Greetings,

If you really want REAL Cocteau Twins lyrics, there is a WWW site that offers
quite a few of them. If enough people express intrest  I can post some of them
or let people know exactly where they are.

Glad to help,

Alfred Douglas.

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:17:44 -0500
From: Richard Singer (wk03814@WORLDLINK.COM)
Subject: Re: Trance Planet


I've been meaning to get back to this message from
TIM CONLON :

>
>  To the person who mentioned "Trance Planet" last week...
>Did you know that Microsoft is using part of the first song (by the
>Orchestra of Mozambique (sp?)) in their latest TV ad?

Actually, I was on the throne when I heard it playing from the TV in the
other room.  When I came out, I asked my girlfriend, "What was that?"
thinking that somebody had shown a cool video for this song.  When she
told me it was a Microsoft commercial, I kind of wanted to go back into
the bathroom . . .

Anyway, I'm glad that I had the chance to experience this song in the
context of a fine world music anthology.  Most people will only know it
as a Microsoft advertising jingle.


-- Richard Singer


Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:51:27 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: !!! COCTEAU TWINS LYRICS !!!


Al, there really is NO such thing as REAL Cocteau Twins lyrics.  The only
exception would be the few phrases Liz had scribbled on the back of the
sleeve for the original vinyl release of "Garlands".  Everything else
is purely speculation.  I have contributed many of the 'lyrics' found
at the WWW site, and make NO claims that they are in any way genuine.


Mike

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:53:27 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Chris And Cosey


Greetings,

Does anyone have a complete discog for Chris and Cosey? They are just one of
those bands that have so much on so many different labels its really hard to
keep track of. Any help would be wonderful.

Thanks,

Alfred Douglas.

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:56:41 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Re: !!! COCTEAU TWINS LYRICS !!!


Mike ol' chap,

I realize this, being a Cocteau Twins fan for a very long time. But I also have
to admit that the lyrics on that site are quite accurate when read along with
the various albums!!
I think we should let the list decide this matter. But I think they are accurate
Alfred.

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 19:04:17 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: The Chameleons


Hello Once Again,

I'm just full of queries ar Anyway, does anyone have a videotape of a
Chameleons gig? I have been looking for one for ages and to on avail, I have
come up empty handed. Maybe someone could please help mt. ut
Also, if anyone has any Chameleons boots, I would really like to trade or gett
a copy. I could copy something in return or pay for the shipping and tape etc.
PLEASE  I'M A DESPRATE CHAMELEONS FAN!!!!

THank You,

ALfred DOUgLas.
R684863S@vax.edinboro.edu{

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:00:36 -0600
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: NO BAUBLES?


On Mon, 2 Jan 1995, Neil Impelluso wrote:

> Howdy folks, got some thing in the mail today from 4AD, as probably a few of
> you did too.  It looks like a card with some strange artwork on it and inside
> it just says "No Baubles".  Does that mean Happy New Year in 4AD?  Or are they
> promoting some upcoming book or compilation or whatever?  I'm confused.
>
I got one of those too. I figure it's what passes for a Christmas card in
4AD-land. I personally thought it was kind of cool--I find the holiday
season a royal pain and was delighted to get a card that seemed to tweak
the whole forced-sentimentalism of the time of year; that's probably what
was meant by "no baubles" (read: "no bullshit").

Wonder what that penile object was on the front? Probably VO and company
thought, "Let's do something to confuse everyone on 4AD-L..."  :)

MW


Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 02:37:42 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: CT Sex Lives


I don't find it to be prying, or bothersome, but I do wonder as to
it's relavance.  It's also old news.  This is over a year ago.  Who
knows whats going on now, or even then( like it's even posible to know
what is really going on)?

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:38:12 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Natures Mortes -- Still Lives


Japanese releases tend to be the same as the English release, but with
extra notes and translations in Japanese.  They also cost twice as much,
and are rumored to sound better, but I doubt it.  I think these use the
same binary image of the music as the domestic release.  My Japanese
friend tells me that domestic CDs cost the same over there, about 15$,
the Japanese version will cost about 30$.  I guess people will pay for
the translation, even if it doubles the cost of the CD, which, if you
think about it, is absurd.

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:12:42 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: EDITOR=/usr/local/bin/emacs


It's kinda weird, but after listening to the song about 20 times it
suddenly jumped out at me.  I'm not crazy because someone else( my
hair cutter) said the same thing, so I know I am not the only one, but
none the less, I can't recall it's name.  The cutter could not recall
either because it's been some years, now, and I had a tape of the
album without the titles anyway( but now I own nearly every single
CD).  The weird thing is, that I had never heard it before, but
afterwards I could make it out quite distinctly.

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:59:14 -0800
From: shane (shane@TREX.ORG)
Subject: Re: "No Baubles"


I too recieved the 4AD Holliday Card (on xmas eve.), I thought it was
really clever (beautiful and pointless).

* bauble (bo'bel) n. [ME babel < OFr baubel, belbel, prob. redupl. of
bel < L bellus, pretty] 1. a showy but worthless or useless thing;
trinket, trifle, etc. 2. [Archaic] a jester's baton with an ornament
at the end

shane@trex.org
(virgo) chances r we r mad

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 00:45:41 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins' Break-up Rumour


Uh...it's no rumor.  She couldn't say enough about Jeff on the last tour.
Robin was hanging out with his female admirers.  And they were both in
the same room at the time.  They are mature enough to continue their artistic
colaboration even though they have parted ways romanticly.  Who knows,
they may get back together again.  Also, Lucy binds them together now for
life.  No big deal really, just like half the people I know, except they
never married.

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 20:10:40 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins' Break-up Rumour


Mr. Cheselka,

Just curious, where did you find this out. Please, I'm not questioning your
accuracy, I'm just curious that's all.

Alfred Douglas

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 00:48:55 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: What is 4AD?


Didn't you get the FAQ?  It means forward->four'ad( British accent).

The FAQ should be emailed to you when you sign up.

Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:30:53 -0800
From: Juliet_OKeefe (okeefe@SFU.CA)
Subject: Re: lifeform


Chris Hanis wrote:

>Actually, this sounds like a sample from the Bulgarian Voices series to
>me.  It does sound somewhat similar to that DCD track, but that's
>definitely not Lisa Gerrard singing.  Anyone able to track down exactly
>where that sample comes from?

Okay, I just listened to them both again, with much fiddling
with the function buttons etc. (I only have Serpent's Egg
on tape) and whaddya know, it's the same pattern of
notes and yes it does sound like Lisa singing - very much so,
it's that style - but I bow to your observations; for one thing
the sample appears to be in a different key.
Now I'm curious. If that's not Lisa, I'd like to hear the song
where it does come from. I've got the 1st Le Mystere album, but
I don't recognize it from there. Anyone else have any thoughts?

Happy new year all

Juliet

okeefe@sfu.ca*


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