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Subject: Re: Fiedler and the Radleys
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 23:28:59 -0500
From: Gil Gershman (BisonBoy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: The Land of a Thousand Lakes
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 23:30:44 -0500
From: Gil Gershman (BisonBoy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Natures Mortes -- Still Lives
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 01:54:16 -0500
From: jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU
Subject: Re: hnia, euphoria
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 22:37:22 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Holiday contest for the bored.
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 14:21:40 -0500
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: Holiday contest for the bored.
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 16:36:09 EST
From: D Andrew Reynhout (andrew.reynhout@ANALOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Holiday contest for the bored.
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 14:50:02 -0800
From: Heretic-Toc the Eastre Clock (payn@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Holiday contest for the bored.
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 18:05:48 -0500
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: Holiday contest for the bored.
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 20:41:05 -0600
From: "Rory L. O'Connor" (roconn01@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)
Subject: party favours and a big dropping ball in times square
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:12:30 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: posters
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:39:07 -0800
From: Heretic-Toc the Eastre Clock (payn@chaph.usc.edu)

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 23:28:59 -0500
From: Gil Gershman (BisonBoy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Fiedler and the Radleys


I read that playing cello for the Boo Radleys is probably one thing she will
never be asked to do again. Apparently, she told Martin Carr that she could
play the instrument. When they went to record she was only able to play a few
usable notes. The ever resourceful (and ever brilliant) Boo Radleys were able
to work those few notes into their sonic warp n' weft.
And "Giant Steps" is so much more than a Sgt. Pepper tribute/remake that
people who say that couldn't be much further off track. It's a "Pet Sounds"
remake too. And a "Loveless" remake. and a "Yerself is Steam" remake. and a
"Revolver" remake. and an "Everything's Alright Forever" remake.
and it's completely wonderful. :-)

Gil

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 23:30:44 -0500
From: Gil Gershman (BisonBoy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: The Land of a Thousand Lakes


(should have included this with the other message, but nevermind.)

Michigan has also given us Slot, Asha Vida, and Spectacle.
Not terribly well known, but they're all pretty great in their own ways.
So now it's "1,000 Lakes" and "10 out of 11 cool musical imports"

just my $0.02

Gil


Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 01:54:16 -0500
From: jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU
Subject: Natures Mortes -- Still Lives


A good question!  I got a copy with the same catalog number through the
auction that was held here recently, and I was very disappointed.  I was
just sure there was an actual version with the CAD 117 catalog number (I saw
a picture of it in the new VO book).  Now I'm not so sure...

Well, it seems to me that the record I got (I sent it back because of all of
this) was a repressing or something.  I think there was a 1982 date on it.
Maybe the original version is CAD 117, manufactured for Japan with UK
catalog numbers.  It was a hit and a Japanese company reissued it later.
Maybe that would explain why there are more of that version floating around
than the original.

I'm just guessing now, so don't take my word on it!  Does anyone have the
real scoop?  Does anyone out there have CAD 117?  Please let the world know
(or at least this small part of it).

-- Jeff

Jeffrey T. Gayton
jtgayton@polisci.wisc.edu

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 22:37:22 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: hnia, euphoria


On Fri, 30 Dec 1994, Rory L. O'Connor wrote:

> does HIS NAME IS ALIVE do shows anymore?  i saw them about a year and a
> half ago (and loved it) and haven't seen them around anywhere since.  if
> they do,  got any locations? dates?

  they play live, but they do it once in a blue moon. they did the 13yi
  after their tour, and this avante garde festival in mexico soon after
  that, and AVAM...plus shows in MI. there's no tour planned so don't
  expect to see them anytime soon. it's been said that a certain band
  member is unhappy with the amount of exposure the band has received
  {not LACK of, mind you} and so that may influence the decision to
  play future shows. i wouldn't expect live dates til after the next album,
  which may not be due out 'til late 1995.

  *k*


Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 14:21:40 -0500
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Holiday contest for the bored.


No prizes involved, sorry, but it might be some fun.

One thing about 4ad artists that sets them apart from artists on other
labels is the fact that they all rework their songs and include them on
newer releases!

Can you name all the reworked 4AD songs?

Here are a couple to start things off:
-The Dirt Eaters, by HNIA: released on the EP, reworked for inclusion on
the Mouth by Mouth album
-Snailhead, by Throwing Muses: released on the Chains Changed EP, reworked
for the Firepile EP


Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 16:36:09 EST
From: D Andrew Reynhout (andrew.reynhout@ANALOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Holiday contest for the bored.


>Can you name all the reworked 4AD songs?

Throwing Muses - "Say Goodbye" from _Hunkpapa_ / _The_Real_Ramona_

Does "Fond Affections" count?  (Rema Rema / TMC)

This is kind of a silly question anyway - there are always remixes
and different versions that don't count as "reworks" (although the
two listed above are pretty good examples. :-)

BTW - rehi.  It's been a couple of years.

Andrew

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   "Which is zen - The head in the stars, or the body in the chair?" -khersh


Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 14:50:02 -0800
From: Heretic-Toc the Eastre Clock (payn@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Holiday contest for the bored.


Wow, sounds like Human Drama belongs on 4AD... and PWEI... and every band
somehow related to Pigface... and how many times was "Send Me an Angel"
released?

>Can you name all the reworked 4AD songs?

All? That could take years...

How about half of Lisa Germano's album Happiness. Does that count? And
Kristin Hersh's Strings EP? Does the This Mortal Coil stuff count?

Throwing Muses:
  'Fish' from the '85 tape was reworked for Lonely is an Eyesore
  'Stand Up' from the '84 EP was reworked for the first album
  I think the versions of 'Same Sun' and 'Amazing Grace' on the 'Counting
    Backwards' single are the same as the originals
  'Soul Soldier' from the first album had stuff tacked on to the end for
    the Fat Skier EP, but I'm not sure that counts.

Modern English:
  'I Melt With You' was reworked for Pillow Lips

  'Raise the Roses' from the Muses' '85 tape became 'Angel' and 'Sexy S'

  'Childcatcher'

that dog:
  A bunch of songs on the album were on the double 7" in different form

But this is all somewhat silly.

Less irrelevantly, will Kristin ever release a new version of 'Sinkhole'?
Or just get release the tape album on vinyl or CD? (That'd be better,
because then we'd get "Raise the Roses" as well. Especially if they added
the '84 EP to the end of it. Or at least Tanya's laugh from the end of "The
Party.") Oh, and if the '84 EP isn't released, she really needs to give us
a studio version of "Santa Claus" one of these days.

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Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 18:05:48 -0500
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: Holiday contest for the bored.


>Wow, sounds like Human Drama belongs on 4AD... and PWEI... and every band
>somehow related to Pigface... and how many times was "Send Me an Angel"
>released?
>
>>Can you name all the reworked 4AD songs?
>
>All? That could take years...
>
>How about half of Lisa Germano's album Happiness. Does that count? And
>Kristin Hersh's Strings EP? Does the This Mortal Coil stuff count?
>
>Throwing Muses:
>  'Fish' from the '85 tape was reworked for Lonely is an Eyesore
>  'Stand Up' from the '84 EP was reworked for the first album
>  I think the versions of 'Same Sun' and 'Amazing Grace' on the 'Counting
>    Backwards' single are the same as the originals
>  'Soul Soldier' from the first album had stuff tacked on to the end for
>    the Fat Skier EP, but I'm not sure that counts.
>
>Modern English:
>  'I Melt With You' was reworked for Pillow Lips
>
>  'Raise the Roses' from the Muses' '85 tape became 'Angel' and 'Sexy S'
>
>  'Childcatcher'



OK, here are some more:
Eaters EP

>Less irrelevantly, will Kristin ever release a new version of 'Sinkhole'?
>Or just get release the tape album on vinyl or CD? (That'd be better,
>because then we'd get "Raise the Roses" as well. Especially if they added
>the '84 EP to the end of it. Or at least Tanya's laugh from the end of "The
>Party.") Oh, and if the '84 EP isn't released, she really needs to give us
>a studio version of "Santa Claus" one of these days.

What about the studio version of Santa Claus at the end of Hunkpapa? (CD)

>
> __________________________________________________
>/ payn@usc.edu \ "And I scream... Aaaaaaaaahhhhh!" \
>\______________/_________[Throwing Muses]__________/

____________________________________________________________________________
John B. Jones
jojones@mailbox.syr.edu

"you're so boring boring boring/always tape machine recording..."
                                        -Dead Kennedys


Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 20:41:05 -0600
From: "Rory L. O'Connor" (roconn01@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)
Subject: Re: Holiday contest for the bored.


Are you aware or His Name Is Alive's "King of Sweet" album?

they rework:
"Are You Coming Down This Weekend"
"Why People Disappear" (Take a Look Around You)
-and throw in various other tidbits from the "Home is in Your Head" album.

rory o'connor


Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:12:30 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: party favours and a big dropping ball in times square


  happy new year, li'l 4ad-l kiddies. by the time it's midnight here
  in CA, everyone else will be into nineteen ninety-five. i don't plan on
  being on at the exact time of twelve o'clock, so this is an early
  happy new year to all of you...may it be a really good one for
  everybody..even stinky ol' 4ad. maybe they'll sign some really kool
  *new* talent this year. ;)


  *k*

Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:39:07 -0800
From: Heretic-Toc the Eastre Clock (payn@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: posters


I have a bunch of 4AD posters up on the wall above my bed, and the Red
House Painters one keeps falling on my head. Now, while I have nothing
against Mark, if a 4AD artist were to fall onto my head, I'd prefer it to
be Tanya or Kristin.

But anyway, what I'm wondering is whether there are any posters (promo or
otherwise) for that dog that have Guernica stuff on them? It isn't terrible
to have non-4AD stuff on the wall, I suppose (my Belly poster says Sire on
it, and one of my others is poster for a show), but if there is a Guernica
poster out there, it'd be oh so much cooler.

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