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Subject: subscribe?
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 01:06:50 -0600
From: "Rory L. O'Connor" (roconn01@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)
Subject: BREEDERS
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 05:29:41 -0400
From: rachel.leibrock@SONICNET.COM
Subject: Re: Reply to Bjork
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 03:04:50 -0800
From: Heretic-Toc the Eastre Clock (payn@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: MBV inquiry (My Bunny Val...
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 05:08:11 -0600
From: kaz bednarcyk (kaz_bednarcyk@mit.bison.mb.ca)
Subject: Re: More stuph
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 03:50:03 -0800
From: Heretic-Toc the Eastre Clock (payn@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Glad someone enjoyed the reviews/stories
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 04:20:44 -0800
From: Heretic-Toc the Eastre Clock (payn@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: UVS and Moonshake and Jack
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 06:50:33 CST
From: Chad Burkey (burkey@ANDERSEN.COM)
Subject: Reply to Name this tune...
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 08:18:25 -0600
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Reply to UVS and Moonshake and Jack
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 09:04:50 -0600
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Natures Mortes - Still Lives
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 16:59:15 +0000
From: AG Wappat (G.S.Walker@DURHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: UVS and Moonshake and Jack
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 12:06:17 -0500
From: Jeremy Orr (JNever@AOL.COM)
Subject: !!! COCTEAU TWINS LYRICS !!!
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 12:29:03 -0500
From: Jeremy Orr (JNever@AOL.COM)
Subject: Butterfly Child
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 12:45:45 -0500
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: UVS and Moonshake and Jack
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 13:44:43 -0500
From: Gil Gershman (BisonBoy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Name that station. . .
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 14:26:38 -0500
From: Erikas Aras Napjus (erikas+@CMU.EDU)
Subject: The Land of a Thousand Lakes
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 11:36:18 -0500
From: Hk Kahng (FARRAGO@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: Glad someone enjoyed the reviews/stories
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 21:19:31 +0100
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Rose Chronicles was "Re: UVS and Moonshake and Jack"
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 14:20:52 -0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Cocteau Twins' Break-up Rumour
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 16:37:55 -0600
From: "J. B. Tracey" (jtracey@ORION.IT.LUC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins' Break-up Rumour
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 17:46:14 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: ESP Summer
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 17:57:44 -0500
From: Hk Kahng (FARRAGO@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: Name that station. . .
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 19:53:51 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: XYMOX
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 20:06:26 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: hnia, euphoria
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 21:15:56 -0600
From: "Rory L. O'Connor" (roconn01@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 01:06:50 -0600
From: "Rory L. O'Connor" (roconn01@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)
Subject: subscribe?


how exactly do i subscribe to this list?

rory
roconn01@ozarks.sgcl.lib.mo.us


Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 05:29:41 -0400
From: rachel.leibrock@SONICNET.COM
Subject: BREEDERS


ME TOO!!! How do you find this thing??? HELP!

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 03:04:50 -0800
From: Heretic-Toc the Eastre Clock (payn@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Reply to Bjork


At 02:12 PM 29.12.94 -0600, kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM wrote:
>>since things are pretty well dead around here, I guess talking about Bjork
>>is as good as anything...Anyway, here's my contribution:

Sigh, I was going to keep this off the list by replying directly to people,
but now there's too many messages to ignore, so....

If people really want to talk about Bjork, subscribe to blue-eyed-pop (it's
at blue-eyed-pop@morgan.ucs.mun.ca, and I think if you send email to
blue-eyed-pop-request@morgan.ucs.mun.ca you can subscribe that way,
although I don't remmber for sure), a list devoted to Bjork, the
Sugarcubes, other former 'Cubes and their current and past projects, etc.
It's a pretty good source for information--not only is it full of
Bjorkophiles from America, England, Europe, and Iceland, but Dr. Gunni
himself is a frequent contributor.

>>        If you checkout the new Robert Altman film Pret-A-Porter/Ready-to-Wear
>>you will hear part of a new(?) Bjork song during a runway scene, and if you
>>look super close, you will see her on the screen for about 2 seconds, walking
>>down the runway at one of the fashion shows.

Actually, a longer clip from the same fake fashion show, showing much more
Bjork, was aired on MTV a while back.

>Have you heard the new one she's got out?  Gling Glo

Gling Glo is not new. It was recorded a few years ago. It's an album of
jazz standards, played by a trio (piano, bass and drums, if I remember
correctly) of Icelandic jazz musicians, with Bjork singing. The 40s and 50s
songs tackle many different jazz styles, but mostly stick to easy-listening
styles and early cool jazz. The music is played pretty straight, but of
course Bjork doesn't exactly follow the melodies exactly as written, which
makes it interesting for Bjork fans, and quite annoying for Bjork-haters.

Although it's not a new album, it was just released in England in early
December (I think) on One Little Indian (order number TRLP 61), which
should make it easier to find in America. The initial release was limited
(with apparently more than two thirds of the copies imported into America,
much to the annoyance
of British fans), but there may be a normal release out now, and you can
still order the Icelandic release through Bad Taste mail order. It will
most likely never be released in the US.

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\______________/________________________[Nena]_______________________/

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 05:08:11 -0600
From: kaz bednarcyk (kaz_bednarcyk@mit.bison.mb.ca)
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: MBV inquiry (My Bunny Val...


cool...is there more?


Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 03:50:03 -0800
From: Heretic-Toc the Eastre Clock (payn@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: More stuph


OK, my last Bjork post (hopefully):

>"Gling-Glo" is actually her first solo album, and from what I've heard, it's
>heavily jazz-influenced.  I think it was only released in Iceland, and I know
>it was a few years back.

It's not even close to her first solo album. Her first solo album came out
in 1977. It was called "Bjork." She was 11 at the time.

Oh, and Gling-Glo is not just "heavily jazz-influenced," it's a jazz album.


Remember, good taste is the enemy of art.

OK, for more Bjork information, try the following URLs:

         Bad Taste Records page
            Web Sense (Bjork's personal page)
  Unofficial Bjork/blue-eyed-pop page
                    Newsgroup for Bjork discussion
     Subscription to blue-eyed-pop
             (body: "subscribe blue-eyed-pop Full Name [not email]")
        Finger the bep list owner
              Dr. Gunni Hjalmarsson/Bad Taste info
              Bjork's email address

And to write to Bad Taste:
  Bad Taste Mail Order
  P.O. box 1263, 121
  Reykjavik, Iceland

Bad Taste is the record label run by some former 'Cubes, the source for
lots of Bjork-related rarities. Dr. Gunni has been in many different
Icelandic bands, and has acted as the Icelandic correspondent for Maximum
Rock n' Roll for many years, and the liason between Bad Taste Records and
the Internet (particularly blue-eyed-pop) in recent months. Blue-eyed-pop
is an email list devoted to discussion of the former members of the
Sugarcubes and their past and current projects (mostly Bjork).

Bless i bili,
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  \______________/__________[Bless]____________/

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\______________/________________________[Nena]_______________________/

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 04:20:44 -0800
From: Heretic-Toc the Eastre Clock (payn@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Glad someone enjoyed the reviews/stories


It's nice to know that a few people out there (other than me, of course)
read and enjoyed my reviews/stories of the AVAM McCabe's shows. I was
worried that people were still sick of/recovering from the 7-page letters I
posted every night while AVAM was still going on. It's good to know that
some of you are so bored that you like my stories. (Or is it just that you
weren't on the list at the time?)

Live from Kristin's closet (with my brother Warren),
  payn

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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 06:50:33 CST
From: Chad Burkey (burkey@ANDERSEN.COM)
Subject: Re: UVS and Moonshake and Jack


> Any fans of Rose Chronicles? I found a copy of "Shiver" in the used bin, and
> it turned out to be a delightful surprise. Cocteau/Swervedriver hybrid
> perhaps? The ethereal vocals are there, but the music reminds me of the
> Swervies' sense of "need for speed". Really good stuff.

Yea, I picked this up too.  I really like the music, however, the lyrics are
rather inane (should have never listened that closely).  Definitely worth
checking out, though (they are on Nettwerk).

Chad


Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 08:18:25 -0600
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Reply to Name this tune...

              29 Dec 94 20:58:44 EST" <2f036d4d01a2002@cdsmail.cdc.com>

>A similar band, One Dove, could possibly fit the above description more
>accurately on certain songs (though they are also mainly
>dance/dub/techno loosely defined), but as far as I know, they have only
>one album out, _Morning Dove White_.  But if they have another album out
>or on the way, I certainly would love to know about it!

Me too.  (gee, that's original!)  About the time Morning White Dove
was released in the states, I'd read that they had half the followup
album already recorded.  Since then, nothing.


___________________________________________________________________
Kent J. Vanderwaal
kjv@catherine.cim.cdc.com
"gifted child, omouidashite yo"
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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 09:04:50 -0600
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Reply to UVS and Moonshake and Jack

              29 Dec 94 22:14:51 EST" <2f037d412332002@zeus.cdc.com>

>Any fans of Rose Chronicles? I found a copy of "Shiver" in the used bin, and
>it turned out to be a delightful surprise. Cocteau/Swervedriver hybrid
>perhaps? The ethereal vocals are there, but the music reminds me of the
>Swervies' sense of "need for speed". Really good stuff.

Yep.  I also found the single Glide and the EP Dead and Gone to
Heaven.  Waiting for the next one...

Can you compare Laika and Moonshake?  I just got Laika's
Silver Apples of the Moon.  Actually *k-j* assigned this
to us all.  I wonder if she's grading on the curve?


___________________________________________________________________
Kent J. Vanderwaal
kjv@catherine.cim.cdc.com
"gifted child, omouidashite yo"
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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 16:59:15 +0000
From: AG Wappat (G.S.Walker@DURHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: Natures Mortes - Still Lives


I was just wandering through my 4ad collection when I stumbled across the
above LP (bought many years ago when I had nothing better to do than collect
all the UK vinyl)
The record appears in all the early 4ad catalogues I have (like the 1983 and
1986 ones) listed as CAD 117. Now...I also know that it was only available
in the UK by mail order from 4ad to the tune of 500 copies or so...which
were imported from Japan by the label itself....

*question*

Is my copy one of those?...I bought two copies at a tiny record fair in the
UK years ago...

It has a removeable paper sash around the cover, covered in Japanese script,
but also the words "Now The Time 4.A.D Vol.5"..the catalogue number
P-11149 also appears on the front of this sash. On the reverse of the
sash there are pictures and catalogue numbers of the following LP's; Modern
English-Mesh & Lace(P-11145), Mass-Labour of Love(P-11146), Colin
Newman-Provisionally etc(P-11147), Matt Johnson-Burning Blue Soul(P-11148)

Anyway, the same catalogue number (P-11149) appears on the spine of the
cover of the LP, and on the disc inside, which has a wea label of green,
yellow and red. CAD 117 only appears on the back cover.

Also inside is a lyric sheet(!!)in English, which also has b&w pictures of
all the records featured on the compilation, and the record is sleeved in
a clear plastic bag.

Is there anyone out there who could be bothered to find their copy and
compare please? Is there a difference between the conventional copies
released in Japan, and the ones 4ad imported back to the U.K? I was just
wondering, whilst bored of drinking heavily...

Thanks, enjoy the New Year....anyone going to the Wolfgang Press/Dust Brothers
gig on Jan 11th in London? Reviews please...I can't make it...
+------------------------------------------+----------------------------------+
|              Andrew Wappat               |   "..spitting out feathers,      |
|     e-mail: G.S.Walker@durham.ac.uk      |      spitting out oar-blades.."  |
+------------------------------------------+----------------------------------+

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 12:06:17 -0500
From: Jeremy Orr (JNever@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: UVS and Moonshake and Jack


On 94-12-29 22:20:04 EST, BisonBoy@AOL.COM (Gil Gershman) spake:

> I tore my room apart trying to find the source for this information. After
> wading through magazines, mail-order lists, and CDs, I found it.  The
> last Ajax catalog says: "{Moonshake} are sort of an all-star band, what
> with ex-Wolfhounds vocalist Dave Callahan singing and somebody from
> Ultra Vivid Scene in the mix, too."
>
> Could the wonderful people who released all that amazing Xpressway
> stuff domestically be wrong? Perhaps Margaret DOES have UVS
> connections. I can't believe that someone could describe Moonshake
> without mentioning Ms. Fiedler - the nerve!

Agreed - although I like Callahan's songs, I much prefer Margaret's.  And as
such, I much prefer Laika over Moonshake Jr.  (And yes, the name should've
been changed, Mr Ex Wolfhound!)

> Is the Moonshake "First" ep (Creation?) still available on CD? I've never
> seen it listed anywhere. Heard it's not really dub or whatever you call
> their brilliant style, either. Just MBV worship from a band that was
> developing itsown unique style and sound.  Still...

I don't know about the availability of the "First" EP, but it is definitely
worth getting!  It is quite different from the subsequent releases, but I
think that's mostly due to poor production (it has that trebly, "whooshing"
sound similar to, for instance, the first three Moose EPs).  The second
track, "Coward", makes brilliant use of a snippet of guitar sampled from the
opening seconds of Talk Talk's "Spirit of Eden".  I got my copy of the EP
from a place called Sound City 2000 in Oregon (I think the number is
503-654-2196), and it cost me about $13, but it was a fine investment.

> Any fans of Rose Chronicles? I found a copy of "Shiver" in the used bin,
> and it turned out to be a delightful surprise. Cocteau/Swervedriver hybrid
> perhaps? The ethereal vocals are there, but the music reminds me of
> the Swervies' sense of "need for speed". Really good stuff.

Ugh.  :)  I was almost completely unimpressed with Rose Chronicles.  The
music wasn't bad, but I'm getting quite tired of overblown vocals like hers.
 Kinda like Sarah McLachlan fronting Lush, perhaps..?  Anyway, the track
"Bottle Song" is the one that's keeping me from selling the CD.

> Are Butterfly Child's albums/eps available on CD?

I've been meaning to pose this question to this list myself, having received
no response when putting it to the UK-Indiers.  All I've heard by Butterfly
Child is "We, the Inspired" from Volume 4 (which I LOVE), and the Rough Trade
7" of "Juice"/"Man and Woman", which wasn't quite as good.  Has anyone heard
anything else by them (him)?

Well, that should do it for now...

Jeremy Orr
"If there's one thing I can't stand, it's up"


Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 12:29:03 -0500
From: Jeremy Orr (JNever@AOL.COM)
Subject: !!! COCTEAU TWINS LYRICS !!!


Hey, that got your attention, didn't it?    Actually, here's something
amusing to ponder while engaging in various attempts at inebriation this
weekend...

A friend of mine and I were recently listening to "Blue Bell Knoll", when he
suddenly collapsed in laughter.  It turns out that while listening to
"Suckling the Mender", he "discovered" that the chorus says...

"You rely on birth control / Teenage sex is wrong"

Of course, the marijuana probably helped...  :)  Seriously, happy new year
(and all that crap) to all!

Jeremy Orr
"It's the chocolate...it's the chocolate on my tooth..."



Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 12:45:45 -0500
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Butterfly Child


  Someone asked about B.C.  I have the "Onomatopeia" CD.  Wonderful
artwork...mediocre songs.

Timothy Conlon
TJC@VIRGINIA.EDU


TIM CONLON
U590@sysm.acs.Virginia.EDU


Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 13:44:43 -0500
From: Gil Gershman (BisonBoy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: UVS and Moonshake and Jack


Yes. Rose Chronicles' lyrics would be better translated into whatever garbled
language that is that Lisa and Liz sing. They're sort of pathetic, and
disturbingly religious. But don't avoid the band because of that. The music
more than makes up for it.

Gil

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 14:26:38 -0500
From: Erikas Aras Napjus (erikas+@CMU.EDU)
Subject: Name that station. . .


So, last night while driving from Pittsburgh, my acting home, to Boston,
the home of my former girlfriend, I was randomly changing from a tape of
Sisters of Mercy ("Floodland" is good depressing driving music) to a CD
of Pale Saints ("Slow Buildings" is growing on me) and had the radio on
in my car for a second. It was tuned to the pseudo-alternative station
in Pittsburgh at 91.3 FM, but this was way out in the middle of nowhere
in New York State (like Newburgh or something). And, guess what, I hear
them playing His Name Is Alive. Weird, no? Now Pixies, Belly, Kristen
Hersh I can see, but I was still under the impression that HNIA was a
bit odd for random radio stations.
I never channel surf and I just happened to run across a station playing
HNIA. The dj proceeded to play a bunch of other 4ad stuff, odd for a
station in the middle of nowhere at 11pm on a Thursday night. I never
did catch the call letters before they disappeared, though. Anyone have
any clue what station it might have been? Anyone on the list per chance?
Just a very surreal experience. . .

Also, now that www.evo.org has both Lars' Eyesore (database, pictures,
and radio) and an archive of this mailing list, does anyone have some
suggestions of neat new 4ad WWW projects? My work has finally calmed
down at the end of the year and I have some time to spend on random
stuff for that server. . .

--- Erikas


Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 11:36:18 -0500
From: Hk Kahng (FARRAGO@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: The Land of a Thousand Lakes


from the deft and nimble mind of the ultra-twee *k-j*:
>> Two regrets from my recent vacation in southeast Michigan...
>
>  you vacationed in SE MI? visiting someone..right? kind of a goofy
>  place to vacation to otherwise... ;)

You are absolutely correct - "vacation" and "southeast Michigan"
do not make the most logical bedmates.  But while I was there, my
friends did make a point of pointing out all the "cool things
that Michigan gave the World" - Iggy, the Stooges, MC5, the Nuge,
Motown, Warren Defever, Veronica Lake, J. Geils Band....  Okay, so
seven outta eight aint' so bad.  :)

Actually I did manage to find an armload of cool cds whilst up
there (a lot of odd-end Sarah and TooPure stuff which is
regrettably impossible to find here... harrumph), and I did find
a copy of _Chickfactor_ on the first night I was in MI.  And
that's always a good sign.

And speaking of signs:
>> 1) Not getting my picture taken next to the highway roadsign pointing
>>    the way to Livonia.
>
>  nope...you should have *taken* the highway roadsign pointing to
>  Livonia {not that i would..Theft Is Wrong!}

Don't think that the thought didn't cross my mind.  Unfortunately
(or fortunately, debatably) I had to fly back to Houston (and on
top of that, I had a slight detour to make in San Francisco on
the way home) - can you imagine trying to check in... natch,
smuggle a highway sign on one of those Southwest Air
Sardine-Cans-with-Wings?

"Do you have any baggage to check?"
"Um, yeah, just this twelve-foot-by-twenty-foot signboard.  And
 please disregard the 'Property of Michigan Highway Dept' logo on
 the corner - it's a typo."

Although next time I'm taking a cargo van...
 hello grand larceny.  :)

Roaming the dreampop range with Mr. Gershman:
>Is the Moonshake "First" ep (Creation?) still available on CD? I've never
>seen it listed anywhere. Heard it's not really dub or whatever you call their
>brilliant style, either. Just MBV worship from a band that was developing its
>own unique style and sound. Still...

I'd hate to think it's out of print, 'cos I'd love to find a
copy for myself.  Unfortunately the last time I saw it was in a
Parasol catalog... oh, about two years ago, and as soon as I'd
called them for it, they told me that they were sold out and
that they had no idea if'n'when they'd ever get more in.

It's a great record, really.  The Shields-gazing critique is
somewhat justified, considering that it _did_ come out on Creation
right around the time the MBV-mothership was just blasting off,
but on that "worship scale" the _First_ ep deserves a cool 5 out
of 10 (point of reference - the first Lilys album gets a perfect
10).  The influence is definitely present, but so are hints of
something greater.  And then there was _Eva Luna_, and the world
came to a screeching halt... um, maybe not.  Well, mine did, at
least... for a week or so.

Sonic, Jason, and a baseball bat makes (Spacemen) three:
> What's a good starting point for someone who has yet to hear any Spacemen 3?

_The Perfect Prescription_, just for the 9+minute cover of
the Red Crayola's "Transparent Radiation".  To paraphrase
Brian Wilson, it blew my mind and everything after that was
groovy.  Of course, the rest of the album is quite swell as well.

One final semi-related thought on the UVS-Moonshake link:
Or to be more precise, on the subject of the TooCool
Ms. Fiedler - she also played cello on the eponymous Telescopes
album and the Boo Radleys' _Sgt Pepper_-tribute
(a.k.a. _Giant Steps_).

A Fender Twin, a Jazzmaster, Boss Chorus, and a Rat,



hk
"Mmmmwwwwwrrrrrrrr" - Puddles the Cat or a happy tremolo, take yr pick

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 21:19:31 +0100
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Glad someone enjoyed the reviews/stories

              30 Dec 1994 04:20:44 -0800

Heretic-Toc the Eastre Clock  writes:

> It's nice to know that a few people out there (other than me, of course)
> read and enjoyed my reviews/stories of the AVAM McCabe's shows.

I think lots of people enjoy stuff like that. (I enjoyed all the
reviews tremendously.) But there genereally isn't a lot of feedback to
stuff like that - people read it, but do not feel compelled to reply
back with "Hey! Fun stuff!" One generally only writes if one feels one
has somethine to say, which is kinda nice, in a way. :-)
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 14:20:52 -0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Rose Chronicles was "Re: UVS and Moonshake and Jack"


>> Any fans of Rose Chronicles? I found a copy of "Shiver" in the used bin,
>> and it turned out to be a delightful surprise. Cocteau/Swervedriver hybrid
>> perhaps? The ethereal vocals are there, but the music reminds me of
>> the Swervies' sense of "need for speed". Really good stuff.

>Ugh.  :)  I was almost completely unimpressed with Rose Chronicles.  The
>music wasn't bad, but I'm getting quite tired of overblown vocals like hers.
> Kinda like Sarah McLachlan fronting Lush, perhaps..?  Anyway, the track
>"Bottle Song" is the one that's keeping me from selling the CD.

        You can say that again, My CD is already sold (or is it in the "to
sell" pile?) because something just doesn't sound right, a little contrived
or something. ...and the Sarah McLachlan comparison is good because i can't
stomach her much either.  Just wanted to let the list know that you weren't
alone in your dissent.

                                 -cz


Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 16:37:55 -0600
From: "J. B. Tracey" (jtracey@ORION.IT.LUC.EDU)
Subject: Cocteau Twins' Break-up Rumour


This is in response to the rumour that Liz and Robin have broken up, and
that Liz is currently in a relationship with Jeff Buckley.  I really
don't believe this rumour, but you know that truth is stranger than fiction.
Here's a possible explanation:

Liz and Robin once recorded a song written by Jeff's father Tim Buckley
called "Song of the Siren" found on the star studded This Mortal Coil
album, It'll End in Tears.  It's hauntingly beautiful; check it out if
you aren't familiar with it.  Anyway, Tim committed suicide at a very
early age, and the Cocteaus were big fans.

The C's met Jeff Buckley during their American tour for Heaven or Las
Vegas.  I remember reading in the press at the time that he was rather
young (17 or 18), and this was not so long ago (4 or 5 years?), and that he
was thinking of following in his father's musical footsteps.

I'm sure that the C's admire his music, but I'd be surprised if Liz and
Jeff were really having an affair.  But like I said, truth is stranger
than fiction.

Happy New Year

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    * John B. Tracey, III             *  "Ces jours qui te semblent vides *
    * Department of Classical Studies *   Et perdus pour l'univers        *
    * Loyola University of Chicago    *   Ont des racines avides..."      *
    * jtracey@orion.it.luc.edu        *                            Valery *
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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 17:46:14 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins' Break-up Rumour


Liz and Robin DID break up.  They were never married, but they WERE
living together.  We all know they have a kid together.  They now
live apart, and from all the information I have been exposed to, Liz
IS -- however casual it MAY be -- seeing Jeff Buckley.

The Cocteau Twins ARE still together and making music, however.  I
have heard that new music will be forthcoming soon.  Also, Simon is
working on some solo project.  Can't WAIT to hear what that's like.


Mike

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 17:57:44 -0500
From: Hk Kahng (FARRAGO@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: ESP Summer


Two posts in a day... wow, I guess I am fully decloaked outta lurker mode...

BUT ANYHOO:
Just got a copy of the ESP Summer tape from my friend in Michigan (everyone has
a friend in Michigan, right? ).  From what I've been told, this "project"
is a collaboration between Ian "Long arms" Masters and Warren "Fuck no, I
didn't mess up the Grenadine album" Defever, and from an initial listen (it's
been in the tape deck for the last twenty minutes or so) this blows Spoonfed
Hybrid right out of the water, out of the ocean, off da planet.  Marginally
twisted mid-fi etherfolk noodlings, somewhat of a logical extension from the
noodlier Pale Saints tracks while choirboy Masters was still the master of that
ship.  It's fantastic (and incidentally, I _do_ like the Spoonfed Hybrid album,
but wow, ESP Summer is so much... I dunno, "more earnest" sounds a bit too
out-on-a-limb, so I'll just stick with "better").

It looks like a part of the sleeve that has the address didn't get quite
xeroxed, but as far as I can tell, the address for Time Stereo (the enigma
wrapped in mystery that is somehow responsible for this tape) may be reached
28143 W 8 Mile
Livonia, Michigan 48152.

Any verification/correction of/to the above address would be greatly
appreciated.

But anyhow, I just thought I'd share that w/ all of you.  I'm _so_ happy.
Sigh.

Cheers,


Graeme Naysmith's Soul Patch


Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 19:53:51 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Re: Name that station. . .


Dear Wondering,

That station is WYEP. It is a great station! They always play 4AD stuff.
It is not at all out of the ordinary for tA or Dif Juz etc.
Glad you enjoyed the experience. I get to experience it all the time when
I'm at home.

Alfred Douglas

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 20:06:26 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: XYMOX


Hello,

Has anyone heard the new XYMOX disc Headclouds? I just picked up the promo for
$2.00. When I first saw iI wasndering what the hell was going on because
Anka was nowhere to be found just ol' Ron, and not to mention the new label,
ZOK records? They are located in London.  I'm from England and I never heard of
this label. They must be really small!! What a jump from 4AD to Wing to nothing.
Anyway, I was really shocked at the departure from the old XYMOX sounds of old.
This album could really pass as a techno or trance/techno disc. I hated it.
But decided to give it a  second listen and now here I am listening to it a
third time as I write this. It's not that bad, but it is sad to see a once ger
great band grasp like this in order to survive.

Does anyone know why Anka Wolbert left the And is their last album, I
cannot remember the name, but it was after Phoneix, did it sound like a techno
disc?

Does anyone have any comments on this matter? I would love to discuss this mater
urther with anyoneo is willing to share their  information.

Alfred Douglas


Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 21:15:56 -0600
From: "Rory L. O'Connor" (roconn01@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US)
Subject: hnia, euphoria


i just subscribed to the list, so i'll just go hog wild:

can anyone tell me about EUPHORIA?  i just saw a cd in the store the
other day and i noticed it was on 4ad, but i have never heard it.  what
do they sound like?  who's in it?  i usually keep up on 4ad releases but
this one slipped by me somehow, how long have they been around?

does HIS NAME IS ALIVE do shows anymore?  i saw them about a year and a
half ago (and loved it) and haven't seen them around anywhere since.  if
they do,  got any locations? dates?

and finally,
does anyone know what michael brook has been up to lately?  any new
releases planned?

thanks,
rory o'connor