Subject: hover cd is out!
Subject: Inconsiderate Bitch EP-Lisa Germano
Subject: MAIN
Subject: Re: SHITE GRUNGE HEADS!!!
Subject: Re: eP Inconsiderate Lisa "Bitch" Germano
Subject:
Subject: Jack Rabid's e-mail address
Subject: Re: your mail
Subject: Darkwave Catalog
Subject: Swallow
Subject: Ramble on, Miles Standish...
Subject: Trance Planet
Subject: Pronunciation
Subject: Re: Ramble on, Miles Standish...
Subject: Re: MBV inquiry (My Bunny Val...
Subject: MBV inquiry (My Bunny Valentine)
Subject: Re: Jack Rabid's e-mail address
Subject: Re: Ramble on, Miles Standish...
Subject: Re: MBV inquiry (My Bunny Val...
Subject: Re: MBV inquiry (My Bunny Val...
Subject: Re: Darkwave Catalog
Subject: Bjork
Subject: Re: Bjork
Subject: Reply to Bjork
Subject: Re: PORTISHED
Subject: Re: Bjork
Subject: Re: More stuph
Subject: Re: Ramble on, Miles Standish...
Subject: Re: SHITE GRUNGE HEADS n' more
Subject: Re: Name this tune...
Subject: Re: Name this tune...
Subject: UVS and Moonshake and Jack
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 20:29:04 -0800
i'm loggin in long distance so i can't be on for long,
just long enough to say that the hover cd is now out.
I've mailed out the orders i received before the 18th,
and you should have them by now.
the CDs look fantastic and sound wonderful.
i'll be back again for a couple of days this saturday
when i'll mail out all the more recent orders.
from now on the cd is $11.50, mailed to the address below.
sorry to be so terse, but i gotta go.
\>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 00:17:36 -0500
Finally I am part of the mailing list! Hello fellow 4AD-heads!
While reading the little faq that comes when you receive confirmation that
you have indeed been added to the list, I noticed that Lisa Germano has a
4AD release that I never heard of, and one of those temporary releases at
that!
I need it! What tracks are on it, How long is it, Where do you think I
could get it at?
P.S. I loved the review of the McCabe's shows that were posted tonight. I
have some of the Troubador shows on tape (audience recordings), but would
die to get some recordings of those McCabe's shows, esp. Lisa G. and
Kristin H.
____________________________________________________________________________
John B. Jones
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"you're so boring boring boring/always tape machine recording..."
-Dead Kennedys
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 01:54:17 -0500
I'd like to second the votes given for MAIN's "Hydra-Calm" and "Dry Stone
Feed." They're a really good band -- doing really interesting and creative
things with sound. I think I should mention however, that if you like
"Motion Pool," you might not like these as much. These two discs are much
rockier and more like LOOP. In fact, that's why I like them so much.
It's long been my feeling that it is much more interesting (and difficult)
to _play_ with existing media (e.g., "rock 'n' roll") than it is to go off
into the ether and detach yourself from everything that's gone before. I
mean, I'm as big a musical snob as anyone, but it seems to me that music is
for people and in order for it to have any meaning beyond the artist (to
which, I think, all art should aspire), it should be aware of the audience's
frames of reference. I guess that's why I like the earlier MAIN stuff
(along with SEEFEEL, INSIDES, PORTISHED, and other groups that are to
varying degrees grounded in existing idioms). They know what we hear every
day and fuck with it.
Oh well, maybe I'm just too old to get all the stuff that you "kids" are
listening to nowadays (I'm a 26 year old grad student) without having it
spoonfed to me in easy(er) bite-sized pieces.
-- Jeff
Jeffrey T. Gayton
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 02:27:26 -0800
On Wed, 28 Dec 1994, Matthew Kirkcaldie wrote:
> > Anyway, grunge lives, and grunge R00LZ!, because grunge includes
> > *Swervedriver* so there!!! :)
> Really? Thought they were part of the "shoegazer" thang, m'self.
Wasn't the shoegazer thing part of the grunge thing?
I think I'll draw my lin at the Catherine Wheel. Anything left of there
gets the flannel and whining exemption.
Are you all happy for me? I'm curious to know exactly how many of these
there were. I now have Black Dog remixes for Come to Me and Anchor Song.
Someone here have a Bjorkography they could send me?
einexile
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 02:35:47 -0800
On Thu, 29 Dec 1994, John B. Jones wrote:
> I need it! What tracks are on it, How long is it, Where do you think I
> could get it at?
I always assumed it was just for those of us hip and kool enough to have
Happiness before 4AD reissued it in a package not requiring a blindfold.
Can't be sure, tho, because I don't have 4AD's Happiness. Here:
Happiness - 8:17
Energy - 3:49
Puppet - 4:03
Sycophant - 5:29
(Late Night) Dresses - 4:16
It's pretty good, but nothing compared to Squick the Girl. It's odd for
her because it basically sounds like Lisa Germano singing over outtakes
from Rev. Which is good, just so you know. ;)
Someone care to blab about the differences between Happiness and Happiness?
The ep is on sale at CDE for $5. Go get it. Run.
einexile
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 03:40:04 PST
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 03:38:50 -0800
Someone mentioned that Jack was online. Would you mind mailing me his address?
Thanks,
Jason
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 04:31:39 -0800
On Thu, 29 Dec 1994, Jason Schmit wrote:
> who
>
what
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 08:29:36 -0500
Does anyone know if you the Darkwave/Projekt people are available on
the Internet?
Timothy Conlon
[email protected]
TIM CONLON
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 04:40:37 -0500
>
from Jeremy Orr
And now a question from me: has anyone heard the new Swallow EP that's come
out on Rough Trade? I only recently heard of its existence; I'd heard they'd
been dropped by 4AD, and just assumed we'd never hear from them again. I
quite enjoyed both "Blow" and "Blowback", but would guess that they've since
changed their style to avoid more Cocteau Twins comparisons. Am I right?
>
I LOVE Swallow! I'm going to the store this week to look for it.
Jan
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 11:08:17 -0500
Kurt Ralskes REVolving door:
But getting back to (again) UVS, the tour I remember is the set of opening gigs
for Ian McCullough (sp?) in the spring of 1990, and if memory serves _Joy_
didnt come out for another three or four months. Ex-Mrs. John Murphy did sing
on one song on the album, but in the brief discussion of the UVS touring lineup
with the 4AD rep at the time, I dont recall her name being mentioned at all.
Regarding the UVS-Moonshake connection:
Filing back through scads of decaying memory here, but I think Margaret Fiedler
of Laika/Moonshake fame is originally from Noo Yawk. Ditto Kurt Ralske (but I
also think that this supposed connection is largely imaginary). Right after the
demise of his band Crash, Ralske did relocate to London for a while during mid-
to-third-quarter-Eighties, chumming and slumming with the likes of the Mary
Chain, the Valentines, and the Space(d)men. The influences are fairly
pronounced on the first album. I actually do like all three albums - even
though they are worlds apart, each one of them, they all charmingly ooze the
perplexingly perverse personality of butter-voiced Mr. Ralske.
SBK, Creation, Sony, Slowdive (and bears, oh my!):
The bit about Sony owning a part of Alan McGees Army doesnt really bother me
as much as the fact that I cant think of three records that were released on
Creation this year that I can actually claim to like (and when you consider
that Oasis is largely a guilty pleasure, then the fave-disc count for 94 drops
to one). And the best things to come out thus far on the Creation-TriStar deal
are albums by Velvet Crush and the Telescopes (the latter being a textbook case
of too-little-too-late-and-who-cares, as opposed to the Weather Prophets and
Biff Bang Pow reissues which were largely who-cares situations...). All this
said, I _am_ looking forward to the Slowdive album - I do wonder just how much
_5EP_-ish the new album is going to be (which is not necessarily a bad thing,
mind you). And fuck SBK and all its friends - its managed to bungle every
Creation licensing, and the Superstar album is just plain poo.
And on a tangent here, to the ultratwee *k-j*:
Where can one find this Pricess Dragon Mom 7"?
Only my $0.03 on the C-Wheel:
The first time I saw them was with the House of Love, and I thought they were
great. The second time was at an abortive opening gig for the Charlatans, and
I thought they were okay. The third time was a year and a month ago, and I
thought they sounded like a pub rock band with a lot of delay and chorus.
Perhaps it was the Neil Young cover.
And on a parting note:
I think the only closet Id ever like to be locked in is Kristin Hershs.
Sigh. Mr. payn, yer a lucky man. :)
Patiently waiting for my copy of the ESP Summer tape,
hk
"Veruca Salt? Theyre about as indie as my health insurance policy!..."
Two regrets from my recent vacation in southeast Michigan...
1) Not getting my picture taken next to the highway roadsign pointing
the way to Livonia.
2) Not staying long enough to see Princess Dragon Mom (opening for the God
Bullies?... I dont remember exactly... it was a busy week...).
Pee-Ess regarding Emm-Bee-Vee:
_Ecstasy_ and _Strawberry Wine_ were compiled to one disc by Lazy Records,
but they went under a few years ago, and according to Mr. Shields, he and
his cohorts made a warehouse raid to secure all remaining copies (he seemed
rather embarrassed about any and all old MBV recordings). Rare, but just
how rare? Good question. I found my copy a couple of years ago for $20,
and although it did take a while to get used to, its actually quite good.
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 12:49:54 -0500
To the person who mentioned "Trance Planet" last week...
Did you know that Microsoft is using part of the first song (by the
Orchestra of Mozambique (sp?)) in their latest TV ad?
Timothy Conlon
[email protected]
TIM CONLON
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 13:09:53 -0500
Portishead...is it "Portis Head"..."Porti Sheed"..."Porti Shed"????
TIM CONLON
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 13:14:39 -0500
On 94-12-29 11:11:14 EST, [email protected] (Hk Kahng) wrote:
> Regarding the UVS-Moonshake connection:
> Filing back through scads of decaying memory here, but I think
> Margaret Fiedler of Laika/Moonshake fame is originally from Noo
> Yawk. Ditto Kurt Ralske (but I also think that this supposed
> connection is largely imaginary).
I agree. I've read somewhere (I think it may have been the Moonshake
interview in Alternative Press a year or so ago) that Margaret Fiedler is
actually from Chicago, and was a schoolmate of Liz Phair's at one point.
(And no, I'm NOT thinking of Julia Roberts!
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 14:01:58 -0500
I'm sure this is far from complete, but:
1. You Made Me Realize ep(Creation)
2. Feed Me With Your Kiss ep(Creation)
3. Isn't Anything(Creation/Sire reissue)
4. Tremelo ep(Creation/Sire)
what am I missing here? Anybody...anybody?
Gil
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 13:00:33 -0600
29 Dec 94 13:14:39 EST" <[email protected]>
> any and all old MBV recordings). Rare, but just how rare? Good
As long as MBV was brought up, I can't find the FAQ and since this
IS a slow week, anybody have a simple discography of MBV? I just
got Glider, my first, (I'm usually a few years behind the rest of
you) and was wondering what else besides Loveless was out there?
I don't need to know real obscure stuff. Danke Shoen, Arigato
Oh, and when did the Beatles split up? Turn your back and ...
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Kent J. Vanderwaal
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"Imagine that, a talking dog"
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 11:12:55 -0800
Schmit" at Dec 29, 94 03:38:50 am
Jason Schmit said:
>
> Someone mentioned that Jack was online. Would you mind mailing me his address
I always thought Jack was rather techno-phobic and didn't think it likely
he would ever get online but perhaps things have changed? Though I like
the new look of his zine, there was something about the issues that
were just xeroxed copies, something endearing about that. Anyway, if
he IS online I'd like to find out as well.
Ed
--
Edward Wakabayashi Please suspend o.-.o
Sleep Lab, x4227 disbelief until ((^))
[email protected] further notice. 0}._.{0
or just shout 'Hey-up Ed!' O/ \O
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 14:14:49 -0500
I don't know if Kurt's actually FROM Boston, but he did attend and graduate
from Boston's Berklee College of Music.
Mike
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 14:20:41 -0500
1 - "This Is My Bloody Valentine"
2 - "Ecstasy"
3 - "Strawberry Wine"
4 - "Ecstasy and Wine" (compilation of previous 2)
5 - "You Made Me Realise"
6 - "Feed Me With Your Kiss"
7 - "Isn't Anything"
8 - "Glider"
9 - "Tremolo"
10 - "Loveless"
Mike
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 13:26:00 CDT
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 13:26:51 -0600
Timothy Conlon queried:
> Does anyone know if you the Darkwave/Projekt people are available on
>the Internet?
You can order all of the Projekt/Darkwave stuff and direct questions
to [email protected]. They also have other things of interest. I got an
e-mail catalogue from them a while back. (i don't think it's automated so
you might as well ask nicely).
I think some Projekt people are on the internet but i don't know
about Sam or Susan (sp?) or the company itself.
Hope this helps,
cz
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 13:41:49 -0600
einexile spake the B-word:
>I just found another Bjork remix by Black Dog Productions! :)
>Are you all happy for me? I'm curious to know exactly how many of these
>there were. I now have Black Dog remixes for Come to Me and Anchor Song.
>Someone here have a Bjorkography they could send me?
Which reminds me that i just saw an interesting CD at the store the othe
day that has Bjork on it and a couple other people (i don't think it was other
ugarcubists, though i'm not sure) but all the information was in Icelandic or so
e other foreign (to me) tongue. Anyone know anything about this?
cz ... who's trying to decide if bjork is more or
less "thislisty" than ambient music.
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 14:59:33 -0500
since things are pretty well dead around here, I guess talking about Bjork
is as good as anything...Anyway, here's my contribution:
If you checkout the new Robert Altman film Pret-A-Porter/Ready-to-Wear
you will hear part of a new(?) Bjork song during a runway scene, and if you
look super close, you will see her on the screen for about 2 seconds, walking
down the runway at one of the fashion shows.
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 14:12:45 -0600
29 Dec 94 14:59:33 EST" <[email protected]>
>since things are pretty well dead around here, I guess talking about Bjork
>is as good as anything...Anyway, here's my contribution:
> If you checkout the new Robert Altman film Pret-A-Porter/Ready-to-Wear
>you will hear part of a new(?) Bjork song during a runway scene, and if you
>look super close, you will see her on the screen for about 2 seconds, walking
>down the runway at one of the fashion shows.
Have you heard the new one she's got out? Gling Glo
I've only read about it, maybe it's not available in
the states yet. I keep hearing about who's on the
Pret-a-porter soundtrack, how was the sound track?
___________________________________________________________________
Kent J. Vanderwaal
[email protected]
"gifted child, omouidashite yo"
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 15:07:48 -0500
portishead fans should check Massive Attack, Tricky, stuff on Mo'Wax
records (like DJ Shadow)...i have to say though that while all this stuff
sonds similar, none of it sounds exactly like portishead...it's all got
that dirty-hip-hop beats kinda thing, but the only ones with vocals like
portishead are portishead. see also remixes by portishead....paul
weller's 'wild wood', primal scream's 'give out but don't give up',
ride's 'moonlight medicine'...
mike
:::[email protected]::: --everybody's kung fu fighting--
///////Kicks more flava than Mister Rogers' got neighbors////////
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 15:12:33 -0500
On Thu, 29 Dec 1994, cz wrote:
> >Someone here have a Bjorkography they could send me?
> Which reminds me that i just saw an interesting CD at the store the ot
er day that has Bjork on it and a couple other people (i don't think it was othe
sugarcubists, though i'm not sure) but all the information was in Icelandic or
ome other foreign (to me) tongue. Anyone know anything about this?
> cz ... who's trying to decide if bjork is more or
less "thislisty" than ambient music.
> [email protected]
>
this is probably 'gling glo', an old icelandic album bjork did in the
early nineties i believe, it's an album of jazz standards and originals
with her and three other musicians. it's great if you like her voice but
nothing like what she does now. this album has recently been reissued so
it should be easy to find nowadays. fans of the remixes should check out
'the best remixes from the album for people who don't by white labels'
mini-album, it's got the best stuff by sabres of paradise, black dog,
fluke, justin robertson and more. fantastic stuff.
i believe there's a fantastic bjork discography on her WWW home page, but
the address eludes me for the moment. a great page if you can find it.
mikebee
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 15:48:53 -0500
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 15:01:18 -0800
On Thu, 29 Dec 1994, Hk Kahng wrote:
> Kurt Ralskes REVolving door:
where is kurt...we miss him so...where is kurt...we miss him so...
> Regarding the UVS-Moonshake connection:
ralske and feidler are from that state known as the big apple {or, at
least, kurt is from the east coast somewhere..but i'm pretty sure it's
NY}. and margaret is the ultrakool female version of kurt ralske, but
i think the coincidences between the two hailing from over here and
moving over there {london} are the only things they share together....
> SBK, Creation, Sony, Slowdive (and bears, oh my!):
someone said the latest slowdive is "really ambient", so i assume
it's gonna be very 5ep-ish. :sob: i like ambient, but i love guitarry
waves of sound a'la anything before 5ep better... {me and my poor
grammar..what a lovely couple we make}
> And on a tangent here, to the ultratwee *k-j*:
> Where can one find this Pricess Dragon Mom 7"?
well, once again, mega-big disclaimer : PD-M IS NOISE! anyone thinking
of buying a pd-m release {or any music from Time Stereo other than the
masters/defever tape} are in for some seriously strange stuff in the
japanoise vein. so even if you are some alternanerd who saw the
boredoms at lollapalooza and think it's really hip to be into that sort
of music...this will just turn your ears into a gooey glob of puddy.
with that said {and that was directed at no one in particular}, the 7"
is available {along with all Time Stereo 'releases'} in Livonia. i have
not an address to give or any information on how to acquire any of
this stuff, short of flying out to MI and hanging around The Record
Collector. :sigh: i have had some interesting e-mail conversations
with a Livonian who knows all those krrazy PD-M kids and that is how
i am getting the muzak. i'll bet that Subterranean carries the new
7"...but it's an iffy bet so don't be surprised if i'm wrong. they do
have 2 PD-M things {the tape & a split 7"}, but PD-M have a wealth of
goodies out besides those...like activity books and so on.
i'm really not much help, am i? :pout:
> Patiently waiting for my copy of the ESP Summer tape,
warren's also involved in another davin venture {still on the noise
thread here} called Beat Bandit..i think? i dunno..i have to go
recheck some stuff. basically warren & davin are involved in just about
everything...
> Two regrets from my recent vacation in southeast Michigan...
you vacationed in SE MI? visiting someone..right? kind of a goofy
place to vacation to otherwise... ;)
> 1) Not getting my picture taken next to the highway roadsign pointing
> the way to Livonia.
nope...you should have *taken* the highway roadsign pointing to
Livonia {not that i would..Theft Is Wrong!}
*k* ..stylin' koolio with my quay video tapes...
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 20:46:14 -0500
My 2 cents' worth, if you like:
I have the Pumpkins' _Siamese Dream_ and I enjoy it from time to time,
especially when I'm in one of those rare moods when I actually want to
hear some hard, heavy guitars. I was surprised to see this band slagged
on the 4AD list, since I kept thinking, on and off for a while, that they
were a 4AD band. And is such an idea so off-base? Smashing
Pumpkins' music isn't very far from the last two Pixies LPs. Also, it's
a bit more original, a bit less oriented toward the current
"alternative" (postpunk-seventeen-years-later) mainstream, than the
Breeders . . . Among the so-called "grunge" bands, the Pumpkins
are probably the most interesting.
Nirvana repulsed me when _Nevermind_ broke, if only because it seemed so
stupid to me that a band like this could turn punk into *the* Big
Thing here in the U.S. about twelve or thirteen years after my old punk
friends and I thought that punk, itself, was over. A little later, when
I could get past Kurt posing with the extended middle finger, as well as song
titles like "Territorial Pissings," I actually got to appreciate the sheer
driving quality of the rock and roll on _Nevermind_ ("In Bloom" was probably my
favorite) and the subsequent studio albums (were there one or two? I
forget now . . .). But wouldn't you know it, just when I started to
sort of like this band, Kurt went ahead and committed his infamous suicide!
And now we get to be plagued by posthumous releases such as "Unplugged"
(every time I hear something from "Unplugged," I want to shout,
"Will somebody please find the fusebox?") . . .
Pearl Jam released a pretty good first album, IMO, and the next two
releases were utterly forgettable. Yet I think Eddie Vedder has been treated
unfairly by those who like to think of themselves as the voices of cool.
I think he's a very decent character who's tried his best and has had
occasional moments of true inspiration. It's too bad he's been chosen
as the hipper-than-thou's grunge scapegoat . . .
As for NIN, I find them boring and trite, but of course, these are just
my opinions.
-- Richard Singer
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 20:58:44 -0500
Heffalump