Subject: Ivo plays?
Subject: Ivo and Manfred...
Subject: UVS: what I meant to say was...
Subject: Name this tune...
Subject: Re: SHITE GRUNGE HEADS n' more
Subject: if anyone cares at all:
Subject: 4AD-L Digest - 26 Dec 1994 to 27 Dec 1994
Subject: Responding to today's mailbag...
Subject: Re: Name this tune...
Subject: Re: "Bright Yellow Gun"
Subject: Re: Utterly 4AD-Type Questions
Subject: Re: Name this tune...
Subject: area comp.
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 1994 23:42:37 -0500
Does anyone know if Ivo is a musician?
MeMeM (a man)
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 1994 23:55:21 -0500
Has anyone ever compared Ivo to Manfred Eicher (ECM)?
I think there might be some interesting corollaries.
James
MeMeM (a man)
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 00:34:53 -0500
I guess what I had in mind with the UVS/NIN comparison was the single-
minded artiste/one-man band/backing band as a revolving door thing. And
it was largely a joke. Next time I'll throw in a smiley or two. Like
this. :) See? :)
I must have been asleep the last time this question came up, but what is
Mr. Ralske up to nowadays? The last I heard of him was him producing
the upcoming album by Ivy (the mini-lp was pretty good, IMHO, although
that singer is breathy enough to froth milk at twenty paces... but
that cute French accent gets me... right here... whoo.).
And I remember hearing at one time that Jo Wiggs used to be on the
UVS payroll at one time or another. Verification/denial, anyone?
...hoping that I hadn't sold back my copy of _Rev_ (although I seriously
doubt anyone here'd buy it...)...
[...rummage, rummage...]
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 1994 22:55:53 -0800
I was in the car with a friend of mine tonight... she was feeling
particularly... well, mean I guess. She was playing a song from a tape &
wouldn't tell me what it was. Here's a description (not too detailed - I
got everything out of her that I could), can you help?
Pleasant female vocals (mixed low), "swirly" guitar(s) with
high-speed/repeat
delay and other misc effects, simple chord progression (4? chord
progression through body of song?), the band has two albums out, the song
was not on either - on a compilation or something, I guess (which is out
of print now). The only thing I could think of is M7X, I've never heard
any of their stuff, so it's a wiiiild guess.
Kinda sketchy, I know, but any help is appreciated. Thanks!
[email protected]
"He who clearly apprehends the scheme of existence does not rejoice over
life, nor repine at death; for he knows that external limits are not final."
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 03:28:46 -0500
1. Swervedriver are SWERVEDRIVER. end of sentence.
being Swervedriver is a good thing.
ex-Swervedriver members must be really dedicated to sandwiches...
2. The Pumpkins, imho, are crap. Ladled up by a massive record label with the
pretentions of being an indie band from the start. Uh huh. Wanna buy a
bridge? Catherine at least aren't too big for their britches. Yet. I hear a
little (very little, really) Medicine in their new sound. And a whole lot of
Pumpkin. Oh well.
3. UVS vs. REV. Two completely different albums. Like I said, each album was
unique. One question: I read that a member of "Eva Luna" era Moonshake was in
Ultra Vivid Scene. Who?
4. Tindersticks a disappointment? I thought that was a beautiful, dreamy, and
somewhat disturbing double album. And I hope such a comment doesn't
discourage anyone unfamiliar with them from picking it up. It's on Bar None,
so there's really no excuse for not having it.
5. Anyone have any recommendations about earlier Main releases. I have
"Motion Pool", think it's exceptional, and want to hear more. Anyone have a
Loop discography. How many proper LPs did they have?
6. Anyone know what's happened or happening with Rollerskate Skinny? I heard
they signed to Sire. New album soon?
...so after thoroughly making a stubborn and opinionated bastard of myself, I
turn to your mercy for answers. Go figure!
G'night
Gil "BisonBoy" G.
Oh yeah, did that rumored early MBV compilation (Ecstacy and Strawberry
Wine?) ever come out on Creation? I've seen it in a few catalogs, but nobody
I know has ever SEEN it. Doesn't make up for that missing LP#3, but it's
still nice. Especially for us digiphiles.
and (please bear with me), is Slowdive's new one coming out on any major
label simultaneously. January 17, right?
now it's the end. bye bye.
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 01:20:40 -0800
there is a new princess dragon-mom 7" out of 'library girl'/'the
man on silver mountain'...muahahahaha....
ultratwee*k*
"...why don't they look?..."
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 08:37:00 +0100
|Other than that, I agree with *k-j* that His Name Is Alive should have
|been higher up... I was listeing to "Mouth To Mouth" on headphones
|yesterday. It's divine. But I didn't vote, of course. :-)
p'raps there's something about hnia fans that makes them disdain
involvment with the sublunary world of opinion polls.
or then, again, maybe they're all just too damned lazy
jey
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 15:11:02 -0500
from [email protected]:
> And just to get my two cents in on the "grunge head" debate, I think
> the Pumpkins are a great band that makes great records, and that Billy
> Corgan has been pummelled a lot in the "hip" media mostly for the
> crimes of giving self-obsessed interviews, failing to be as self-effacing
> as Alternative Nation would have liked him to be, and, most of all, for
> making the record that every other band in indie Rock was trying to
> make.
Sorry, but I really don't think that any indie band of merit would bother
with even wanting to make an album like "Siamese Dream". The whole thing is
overblown, overproduced schlock/cock-rock, period. And let's face it, Corgan
is not doing anything musically new, while many indie bands - such as
Supercollider, Main, Seefeel, and (hopefully) My Bloody Valentine - have
released amazing, innovative albums. And besides, Catherine Wheel could kick
Smashing Pumpkins' collective ass any day of the week; "Chrome" has got to be
the most overlooked album of 1993.
And from [email protected] (Hk Kahng):
> And I remember hearing at one time that Jo Wiggs used to be on the
> UVS payroll at one time or another. Verification/denial, anyone?
Actually, wasn't it Kim Deal that toured as part of UVS for the "Joy" tour?
I know she sang backup on a song or two, but it seems like she also did the
tour with them as well. Also, after all the 4AD-listers started ragging on
"Rev", I listened to it again...and actually enjoyed it! I've been listening
to it quite a bit here lately, although I hated it when it first came out.
And from my soon-to-be-good-buddy [email protected]:
> The Pumpkins, imho, are crap. Ladled up by a massive record label
> with the pretentions of being an indie band from the start. Uh huh.
> Wanna buy a bridge?
Agreed - when writing of my hatred for Smashing Pumpkins, I'd forgotten about
that stunt that Virgin pulled with Caroline. And they obviously got away
with it. Greedy bastards...
> UVS vs. REV. Two completely different albums. Like I said, each album
> was unique. One question: I read that a member of "Eva Luna" era
> Moonshake was in Ultra Vivid Scene. Who?
That's the first I heard of that. Surely not...especially seeing as how the
two bands are from separate continents.
> Anyone have any recommendations about earlier Main releases. I have
> "Motion Pool", think it's exceptional, and want to hear more.
The "Hydra/Calm" CD is excellent, and has a great package. The sound is a
little more primitive, and not quite fully realized, but still very good. If
you like "Motion Pool", I would also highly recommend the "Dry Stone Feed"
EP; similar sound, and at around 40 minutes, one of the longer EPs you'll
ever hear.
> and (please bear with me), is Slowdive's new one coming out on any
> major label simultaneously. January 17, right?
The last thing I read was that the assholes at SBK finally let them out of
their contract. Because of that very fiasco, Creation has inked a new
distribution deal with TriStar, a subsidiary of Sony...and surprise surprise,
Sony now owns part of Creation! (For whom does the bell toll? It tolls for
thee, Alan McGee...) So anyway, Slowdive were "talking to" the people at
TriStar, so who knows? I'd say it's pretty likely that they will release the
album over here, but not as early as January - maybe a month or so later, but
not eight months, either, I hope!
And now a question from me: has anyone heard the new Swallow EP that's come
out on Rough Trade? I only recently heard of its existence; I'd heard they'd
been dropped by 4AD, and just assumed we'd never hear from them again. I
quite enjoyed both "Blow" and "Blowback", but would guess that they've since
changed their style to avoid more Cocteau Twins comparisons. Am I right?
from Jeremy Orr
"All hail the Fender Jazzmaster!"
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 14:31:50 -0600
Heffalump queried:
>Here's a description (not too detailed - I
>got everything out of her that I could), can you help?
>
>Pleasant female vocals (mixed low), "swirly" guitar(s) with
>high-speed/repeat
>delay and other misc effects, simple chord progression (4? chord
>progression through body of song?), the band has two albums out, the song
>was not on either - on a compilation or something, I guess (which is out
>of print now). The only thing I could think of is M7X, I've never heard
>any of their stuff, so it's a wiiiild guess.
Your wiiiild guess could very well be right. The Moon Seven Times
do have two albums: (i) self titled (ii) 7=49, AND another track on the
Heavenly Voices compilation (from Hyperium via Darkwave in US) which is
likely to be out of print.
cz
CD's, I'm pretty sure you can still find them somewhere. If not, there's
always Heavenly Voices III (due out soon).
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 16:34:18 -0800
>> P.S. How many of you are totally bored with my catalog number/format/etc.
>> obscurantism? Don't answer that!
>Well, I'm afraid I can't be much help with it, but bored with it? Hell, I
>read the World Serpent list, and if you think _you're_ bad, read a couple
>messages over there! :)
Oh, come on, now that einexile's over there it's starting to look pretty lively!
In a completely different direction, I also read the They Might Be Giants
list, where music is occasionally discussed, but more often the topics
range from toothpaste to dreams to actual bridges with the "I don't want
the world, I just want your half" to lust for John Linnell to lust for
other people who used to have floppy hair to breakfast cereals.
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