4ad-l Mail for 12-22-1994

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Subject: Selling those CDs...
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 22:22:31 -0500
From: Marvyn Hortman (HORTMAN_M@HCCS.CC.TX.US)
Subject: Re: Poll - WP
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 22:42:17 -0800
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Autechre
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 23:06:07 -0800
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Favourite released on 4AD this year
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 23:15:18 -0800
From: vilexile (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject:
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 03:07:21 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: btw
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 03:11:54 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: MXMAS
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 09:27:54 -0600
From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins: The forgotten 4ad tracks
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 11:02:20 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Cocteau Twins: The forgotten 4ad tracks
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 10:49:40 -0500
From: David B Hanna (dhanna@MAIL.SAS.UPENN.EDU)
Subject: Ambient list address
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 09:21:18 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: AMBIENT, NOT THISLISTY
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 14:59:04 EST
From: Lawren Wu (lcwu@MIT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins: The forgotten 4ad tracks
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 15:09:53 -0500
From: David B Hanna (dhanna@MAIL.SAS.UPENN.EDU)
Subject: truth about toomey project
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 13:28:17 -0500
From: Allison Schnackenberg (allison@southern.com)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins: The forgot...
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 16:23:11 -0500
From: Gil Gershman (BisonBoy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: The Big Takeover 'zine
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 16:44:39 -0500
From: Jeremy Orr (JNever@AOL.COM)
Subject: Jens' Best-o-'94
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 14:32:44 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: "Whirlpool" 'zine
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 18:36:00 CDT
From: Igor V Boronenkov (BORODA@MACC.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: the real toomey deal
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 21:02:29 -0500
From: "(David Gionfriddo)" (DscribeDC@AOL.COM)
Subject: ViVid zine
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 18:51:18 -0800
From: Juliette Morris (jvivid@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins: The forgot...
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 19:28:34 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)

Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 22:22:31 -0500
From: Marvyn Hortman (HORTMAN_M@HCCS.CC.TX.US)
Subject: Selling those CDs...


Heffalump wrote:

> Please buy.  <:-)  I want to get rid of it all before I go back to
> school...

[list of CDs deleted...]

Hey, you oughta give the Used CD listserv a shot.  Everytime I find a good
CD on it, it's already been sold so if you're having trouble finding
buyers...

I don't have the address handy, but if you want I can find it...

marvynHortman


Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 22:42:17 -0800
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Poll - WP


On Wed, 21 Dec 1994, Steve Hill wrote:

> In <9412211753.AA18565@harper.cc.il.us>, TIM CONLON wrote:
> >   I voted for Wolfgang Press.  If the CD says 1994...isn't that this
> > year?

> Well, yes, 1994 is this year, but the CD's official release date isn't until
> 1995. You may have it, and I may have it, but it's not really out yet... :)
> -shill

Don't think of it as january of 1995. Think of it as Jack of 1994. ;)

 einexile (you're writhing in it)

Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 23:06:07 -0800
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Autechre


On Wed, 21 Dec 1994, Jan Hanford wrote:

> BTW, I realise that this isn't 4AD related.  The list seems to be talking
> about a lot of other stuff these days.  Does anyone know if there's an
> ambient music discussion list?  It's my favourite kind of music.  I'd just
> as soon discuss is here with everyone else, it is a listy type of thing.

There are several ambient and electronic music lists, but the signal:noise
is generally bad on them and there is too much attitude and sanctimony on
these lists for my tastes. The ambient discussion on 4AD-L isn't so
dense, but is imo of a much higher quality. I subscribe to the others
only to keep an eye on the subject lines for new releases, overdoses, etc.

Autechre are hell on wheels. I haven't heard the new album but what I
have heard defiitely fits the desciption you gave. The atmosphere is
wonderfully futuristic, sterile, and oppressive. (I kind of have this
love for the whole thing with people having numbers instead of names,
their daily routine arranged for them by a big omniscient computer, etc.)
I've heard that the new album is not so lush or 'ambient' as the first
one was. Incunabula is really runneth over with the sort of feel that
gives Reload its kick. The new Global Communication album (same people)
is also nice for that.

Of course, an ambient thread is never really an ambient thread with a
reference to Black Dog Productions. They are THE BEST. Kick Autechre's
ass.

That's all I can think to say at the moment.


 einexile


Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 23:15:18 -0800
From: vilexile (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: Favourite released on 4AD this year


On Wed, 21 Dec 1994, Steve Hill wrote:

> >  24  8  3.0 the glee club - mine
> >  23  5  4.6 glee club - mine
>
> So this should actually be
> 3) 47 13  3.6 the glee club - mine

[etc]

> I would have put TWP first, but it's not really a 1994 release. There are a
> LOT of other tiny errors in these poll results, mostly due to the voters
> (Spoonfed Hybrid? Four Calendar Cafe? 1993 releases) but also due to duplicate
> entries being spelled or designated differently, as seen with "glee club" and
> "the glee club" above, and for example also in the "Best Artist on 4AD ever"
> list with entries for "clan of xymox" and "xymox". I recall last year someone
> voted for "cocteaus"...

It's proper to differentiat with Clan of Xymox and Just Plain Xymox
because the name change marks a conscious decision to become a crap disco
band...okay, so this isn't really true, but it's what happened, and there
*was* a "Xymox" release on 4AD.

Anyway, I was noticing several 4AD releases ended up in the "non-4AD"
categories. What do we do with them? I say the people who sent that stuff
in ought to be disqualified! :scrooge: And shame on everyone who didn't
get their release years right! Jesus Christ, look at the damned record
and see what year it came out in, already!

One thing that fouled me up was weren't we limited to a maximum of five
points per item last year? I just assumed it was the same this time also.
Maybe I was wrong in both cases.

I also think there should be a special category, "sentimental booby
prize" or something, for those records you just can't bring yourself to
admit are, well, put nicely, *utter shit*.


I do have a hell of a lot of fun with this poll and think it's a major
credit to this list. Three cheers for Lars and kudos too, even though,
if memory serves, he ditched us until the end of the year or something
like that. ;)


 einexile


Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 03:07:21 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM) __/\__ \ / /_/\_\ ****** *O**O****O *O*******O**** ********O****O**** ******O*************O* **O*************O********* **O******O***O***********O**** ********O*************O*********** **O*********O******O******O******O**** ********O*********O************O********** ######### ######### /\/\ {a very crude represenation} ######### (____) {of my twee cat, Ninja, who} ######### ( ) {also sends his xmas well luv} ######### ------~~~~ as the weekend nears, i want to wish those of you who celebrate the holiday an ultratwee xmas. don't forget to put out cookies and milk {soy or otherwise} out for santa on xmas eve...and some extra goodies for the reindeer. ;) special Patrick Swayze Xmas wishes to any MSTies on the list. i have a supremely huge stocking with my name sewn on it by my mommy {in sequins!} and if santa's really nice, warren will be in that stocking on sunday morning... {i'll probably get a Lifesavers pack instead, though} mint m&m's and kodak moments, * k-j *

Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 03:11:54 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: btw


  any redundant and/or lame sentence structure in that xmas
  note is my fault. that's what happens when i e-mail on the
  brink of passing out...


  *k* ...blah blah blah...


Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 09:27:54 -0600
From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: MXMAS


Greetings.

     I was going to start this note with "A very special holiday
message to you" but there's nothing special about it. So:

     A very ordinary and unremarkable holiday message to you from
me. Please do not save this message, there is no point. Use the
bytes for better things. Please do not print this message, there is
a paper shortage. Please do not read this message twice, you have
better things to do with your time. Have a great holiday and I hope
you don't die.

     Every Christmas I smile at the thought of the Santa Claus
episode of MST3K...Santa, of course, knows if you've been bad or
good because he has an observation tower from which he can see the
whole entire world. During a routine check, he sees that little
Timmy has been a bad boy.  "I see that Timmy is being a bad boy.
I'll just activate the death ray here..."

     Oh, come on, laugh. See you or type at you next year.
     -Steve Hill (aka SHILL) shill@harper.cc.il.us

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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 11:02:20 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins: The forgotten 4ad tracks


Sounds like a ripoff.  I could have that same tape made in little over
an hour at home.  None of that stuff is rare.  You know you've stumbled
across something rare if it has Peel Sessions on it other than those
featured on the import version of "Garlands" on CD.  There's a LOT of
Peel material that never made it to official release and is only found
on bootlegs.  There are also a couple tunes that can be found on a
few live bootlegs that were never released, either.

The tape you refer to is a home-job compilation done by someone who had
the box-set.


Mike

Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 10:49:40 -0500
From: David B Hanna (dhanna@MAIL.SAS.UPENN.EDU)
Subject: Cocteau Twins: The forgotten 4ad tracks

              pmarin@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

I spotted multiple copies of a seeming Cocteau bootleg yesterday and was
wondering if anyone... had this/knew about this/can describe sound quality
of this...  Apparently it is just a compilation of B-singles but probably
the most noteworthy ones of the box set...

It had no label or label number on the case, but it did use the 4ad logo,
though it seems to be unofficial.

COCTEAU TWINS: The forgotten 4ad tracks

1. Alas dies laughing
2. It's all but an ark lark
3. Peppermint pig (7" version)
4. Laugh lines
5. Hazel
6. Peppermint pig (12" version)
7. Pearly-dewdrops 'drops (12" version)
8. Kookaburra
9. Quisquose
10. Rococo
11. Love's easy tears
12. Those eyes, that mouth
13. Sigh's smell of farewell
14. Orange appled
15. Dials
16. Crushed
17. High monkey monk
18. Mizake the mizan
19. Watchlar
20. Oomingmak

The running time is something like 74 or 72 minutes... anyone know about this?

Dave


Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 09:21:18 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: Ambient list address

              "jhanford@SHELBY.COM" 

Jan Hanford wrote:
>BTW, I realise that this isn't 4AD related.  The list seems to be talking
>about a lot of other stuff these days.

Yeah, we've been talking about other stuff for years...

>Does anyone know if there's an
>ambient music discussion list?  It's my favourite kind of music.  I'd just
>as soon discuss is here with everyone else, it is a listy type of thing.

Sure there is. Write to ambient-request@hyperreal.com and put "subscribe" in
the body. It's fairly high traffic, but there is a digest mode; I think you
can send "help" to the -request address to get a list of commands.

In my opinion a lot of ambient is quite worth discussing here ... not only
because so much of the best music coming out now is ambient, but there are
strong overlaps in sound, texture and general philosophy. Note that Slowdive
and of course Seefeel overlap the two genres ... as may the Cocteau Twins in
their next release, if we can take Robin's hinting seriously.

Jens Alfke ________ OpenDoc Mnemonist _______ jens_alfke@powertalk.apple.com
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                         ...stay as you are


Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 14:59:04 EST
From: Lawren Wu (lcwu@MIT.EDU)
Subject: AMBIENT, NOT THISLISTY


Sorry to post non-4ad, but keeping in the ambient thread, has anyone heard of
the San Francisco-based band "Weird Blinking Lights", which is apparently an
ambient industrial band?  Thanks.

Lawren
lcwu@Mit.edu


Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 15:09:53 -0500
From: David B Hanna (dhanna@MAIL.SAS.UPENN.EDU)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins: The forgotten 4ad tracks

              pmarin@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

I'm on the digest so I don't know if anyone has replied or not, but I
forgot to mention that this is a bootleg CD, not video.

Dave


Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 13:07:12 -0800
From: * kelli-jeanne * (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: the real toomey deal


---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 13:28:17 -0500
From: Allison Schnackenberg (allison@southern.com)
Subject: truth about toomey project



hey to end the speculation/whatever...here's the real deal :

Jenny Toomey was approached by Ivo of 4AD to take part in a "series"
of releases he was planning to do.  The "concept" was loosely "solo
projects by members of currently active bands" or something similar.

The series fell apart, but Ivo liked what Jenny recorded, so will be
releasing the album on 4AD at some point next year.  The other half
of the equation is Dan Littleton, of Ida.  The "band" will probably
be called Stengal, after the baseball player.

It's a one-off, it's being distributed via ADA in the States and the
usual 4AD network in Europe.

Tsunami are healthy and about to record a new record and tour, so all
you haters of "indie" or "pop" or any of it's subgenres should
probably cancel all your fanzine subscriptions for the next six
months.

-- allison
Nothing against sideprojects, spin-offs, remakes, prolificacy, guest
appearances, or out-takes, but I draw the line at improvisation.

Allison Schnackenberg
Southern Records

Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 16:23:11 -0500
From: Gil Gershman (BisonBoy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins: The forgot...


Even if "Forgotten Tracks" is a 'cut and paste' job, together with "Tiny
Dynamine/Echoes in a Shallow Bay" and "The Pink Opaque", it comprises the
entire boxed set. If you can find the other two CDs, you'll end up spending
less than the $60.00 boxed package. Plus, it's always nice to not have to
switch disks after every 3 or 4 songs. In defense of "Forgotten...", the idea
of running the tracks in chronological order is interesting. It shows how the
Twins evolved from a pretty unexciting (IMHO) gothic-type band into a
wonderful and enchanting musical entity (somewhere round "Love's Easy Tears"
or "Pearly Dew-Drops")
So if you don't have the box, and you can find this illegitimate Cocteau
release, pick it up. It sure beats paying $10 or so for each of the eps. And
then there are the last 4 tracks. Some of them aren't so easy to find.
"Dials" is from a promo, "Crushed" is from "Lonely is an Eyesore", etc. If
it's not too expensive, it's worth it. I got mine for free.  It's a long
story.
Gil

...no, I can't get another one. Sorry.

Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 16:44:39 -0500
From: Jeremy Orr (JNever@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: The Big Takeover 'zine


Actually, the new issue is out - I just got it in the mail on Monday or
Tuesday.  Lush is on the cover (their first full-color), and it also features
big interviews with Bob Mould of Sugar, Oasis (ugh), and tons more.  It's a
brilliant magazine that just keeps getting better.  At first, I used to get
annoyed that it only comes out twice a year - but hell, it almost takes the
full six months to get through each issue!  Anyway, kids...buy buy buy!  You
won't be disappointed.  And besides, Jack's a great guy and needs everyone's
support.

Jeremy Orr



Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 14:32:44 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens_alfke@POWERTALK.APPLE.COM)
Subject: Jens' Best-o-'94

              "ambient@hyperreal.com" 

[[Crossposted to the 4AD-List and the Ambient-List; not all of this stuff is
quite in line with either list, so beware.]]

It turned into a Top Fifteen; so sue me. The descriptions have been written
pretty hastily, and I apologize for any hand-waving or mangled grammar...

--Jens


** Bark Psychosis "Hex"
                  "Independency"
                  "A Street Scene" 12"
They're not really playing in any known genre; while closest to indie-rock,
they've mixed in a lot of jazz, dub, and techno. "Hex" is sparse, quiet and
sad and one of those rare albums that adds a lot of instruments to the
traditional rock lineup and still succeeds. "Independency" compiles their
earlier EPs; it ranges from straight shoegazer rock to dub freakouts. And the
B-side of the 12", "Reserve Shot Gunman", is an amazing piece of trance
techno done without synths, samplers or beatboxes. All the music here is
perfectly done, and the future potential of the band is amazing. What will
they do next?

** Aphex Twin "Selected Ambient Works 2"
Most of Richard James' noodlings leave me cold, but this two-disc collection
is some of the best and most original ambient music to come along since Eno's
heyday. The moods range from contemplative to noisy, from calming to
frightening; the pieces are all quite repetitive but change subtly
throughout, and each is quite different from the last.

** Tsunami "The Heart's Tremolo"
This album is much moodier than their debut; there are no pop masterpieces
like "In a Name", but the songs are beautiful and discordant, with lots of
unexpected chords, rhythms and melodic changes. Jenny Toomey's low voice at
times recalls jazz crooners more than pop singers.

** Scorn "Evanescence"
An offshoot of Napalm Death, Scorn have gone from industrial metal a la
Godflesh to seriously tweaked dub -- "Evanescence" sounds like early PiL
colliding with the Aphex Twin as deep, oozing dub bass mixes with hip-hop
beats on a bed of pure unadulterated murk.

** The Future Sound Of London "Lifeforms Paths 1-7" EP
The full double-disc album of "Lifeforms" was far too self-indulgent for its
own good, but this spin-off EP is a wonderful, focused piece of
ambient/trance techno. Ostensibly seven remixes of the same track, each is
actually quite different; the slight commonalities between them help to tie
everything together. Elizabeth Fraser of the Cocteau Twins adds some nice
vocals, but the burbling rhythms, synths and nature sounds work perfectly
even without her.

** Laika "Silver Apples Of the Moon"
After Moonshake fragmented like an unstable atomic nucleus, we got updates
this year from each half of the original group. Of the two I much prefer
Laika. Margaret takes the same basic ideas as on her Moonshake tracks --
intricate dub basslines, frantic jazzy drumming and a sensory overload of
looped, bleeping, churning samples -- and takes them even further. Some of
the songs are as disturbing as the old ones, while some get down and funky
and could even sell some serious units given decent promotion (when, oh when
will this album be released in the US?)

** "Ambient 4: Isolationism" compilation
Most of the ambient comps coming out nowadays lean toward techno or new-age;
lots of sequencers and surf sounds. This compilation leans the other
direction, toward really disturbing sonic spaces. A lot of the material here
comes from serious noisemongers, and the results are as if they pushed the
noise so extremely far that it evaporated into a formless haze. A couple of
the tracks are still confrontational, but the rest offer long drones that can
be quite trance-inducing. Just make sure you keep the lights on.

** Beastie Boys "Ill Communication"
Somewhere between their first album (which I loved) and this one (which I
love even more) the Beastie Boys mutated from brainless party animals from
NYC into a very serious, talented crew ... who are still party animals. They
play just about all the instruments, they sample lots of bebop and early-70s
fusion, they use lots of wah-wah on the guitar, while putting out a constant
stream of absurd rhymes. God bless them.

** Dog Faced Hermans "Those Deep Buds"
It's not as catchy as their earlier stuff, but this album is quintessential
DFH with its pounding, seemingly-chaotic rhythms, grinding guitar,
intellectual lyrics and jazz trumpet. The songs don't stick in my mind the
way older ones like "Jan 9" do, but while the disc is spinning it makes a
mighty racket indeed.

** Seefeel "Starethrough" EP
           "Polyfusia" LP
"Starethrough" is a mixed bag that seems to point out all of Seefeel's
musical directions one by one. The title track is by far the best, with its
earth-shaking subsonic bassline and eerie vocal samples.
"Polyfusia" compiles stuff that really came out last year, but for the
benefit of those who weren't digging up the import CDs then I'm including it
in this year's crop. A must-buy, the perfect mixture of the shoegazer
blurry-guitar bliss-out aesthetic dissolving in trance-techno-dub rhythms.

** Stereolab "Mars Audiac Quintet"
             "Wow and Flutter" EP
Stereolab's sound has always stretched from '60s pop fluff at one extreme,
and experimental guitar drone at the other; and for the most part their
latest album nudges closer to the fluff end of the spectrum. Which is still
great fun; songs like "Wow and Flutter" and "Ping-Pong" are as obnoxiously
catchy as any bubblegum hit ever written, and there are enough noisier tracks
in between to keep your teeth from rotting.
Those who found the album too sugary should try out the "Wow and Flutter" EP,
which combines a slightly different rendition of the title track with three
variations on "Nihilist Assault Group" (one very noisy) and two other tracks.
It's a lot more like the old Stereolab.

** Eat Static "Implant"
Thinking man's techno; lots of great rhythms and non-cliched synthesizer
sounds. Less unrelenting than "Abduction", but there are some great tidbits
lurking in the mix, there are the usual hilarous UFO-related samples, and
"Panspermia" is a very nice ambient excursion.

** "Artificial Intelligence 2" compilation
More techno from the Warp label; I hadn't heard from most of the artists
before, but the quality level is quite high. There's nothing I'd really call
ambient in it, but neither does it approach hardcore. Good music to work by.

** Portishead "Dummy"
I really must get my own copy of this album; I've only heard it twice but
fell in love. Is it the Sundays meeting the Fine Young Cannibals?

** Underworld "Dubnobasswithmyheadman"
If this were a three-track EP it would be higher up in the list. The first
several tracks are really excellent, a fusion of techno with rock song
structures, but it bogs down thereafter. Nevertheless, "Mmm Skyscraper I Love
You" is one of the best songs I heard this year (as well as having one of the
best titles.)


Jens Alfke ________ OpenDoc Mnemonist _______ jens_alfke@powertalk.apple.com
                                                      NewtonMail: Jens Alfke
The stars are so big, the earth is so small
                         ...stay as you are


Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 18:36:00 CDT
From: Igor V Boronenkov (BORODA@MACC.WISC.EDU)
Subject: "Whirlpool" 'zine


And yet another cool fanzine.
This time from Arizona (yep,the home of Lovesliecrushing, and they have a
close-up on them). 52 pages, some records' ads, but not too many. The impressive
issue. 3-5 pages each, transcription only. What makes this magazine so nice are
about 80 album reviews, covering practically all more or less obscure bands
discussed on the list. Personnaly I loved also the language: imaginative, but at
the same time very focused. Go and get it just for the information content,
nothing to say about the coolness factor!
They promise ints w/ Mazzy star, the wedding Present, E.River pipe, Low, Bark
Psychosis, Half String and Alison's Halo. Do not know about your pulse now, but
I can't wait!
Sample $3, subscr. $8(bulk),$10 (1st class)
Whirlpool
pob  616
Tempe  AZ  85280

Enjoy.     Boroda.


Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 21:02:29 -0500
From: "(David Gionfriddo)" (DscribeDC@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: the real toomey deal



I think you mean "Stengel," not "Stengal"...

An anal  baseball fan,

DscribeDC@aol.com


Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 18:51:18 -0800
From: Juliette Morris (jvivid@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: ViVid zine


Hello...I am part of a group that collectively publishes a zine dedicated
to 'art, music and words.'  We are a San Francisco-based zine providing a
source to and for independent individuals and bands, artists, and writers
(we sometimes throw in a major label here and there, if we think they
deserve even more attention, and nowadays it's not easy to avoid them.).
Our aim is to expose artists, bands and writers that we enjoy who do not
always get the attention they deserve.

Having an international readership, we are also introducing new bands to
countless new fans!

ViVid #2 is out now, and features interviews with Tsunami, She Never
Blinks, Bracket, Helmet, Veruca Salt and others.  A profile on Poster
Artist Derek Hess, Fiction, poetry and many book, zine, live show and
music reviews (Breeders, Drugstore, Grape Juice, Juicy, Orange,
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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 19:28:34 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins: The forgot...


> So if you don't have the box, and you can find this illegitimate Cocteau
> release, pick it up. It sure beats paying $10 or so for each of the eps. And

Well, "pick it up" if you'd rather give your bucks to some bootlegger than
to the band & the label.

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