Subject: ITN - Anatomy of a Poet
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Subject: Re: Portishead?
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 20:42:55 -0800
(Forgive the crosspost to WSD-L. I haven't seen this album discussed
there, it's *kind* of wsd-thislisty, and there is Karl Blake content I
thought might be of interest.)
On Tue, 20 Dec 1994, MR NORMAN N LEVENSTEIN wrote:
> today, i saw what i guess is a fairly new in the nursery cd. anatomy of
> a poet. did this come out after the ambush of ghosts sdtk? has anyone
> heard it? it looks like it's got some of that narration stuff that
> drives me nuts.
If you don't like the spoken word stuff, I dunno what you'll think of the
singing on this album. It is new; I think it came out around September
but of course I could not get ahold of it until about a month ago.
Anyway, personally as an In the Nursery fan, I love the album and would
rank it between Duality and Sense (Sense being my favorite of their
albums, so you can judge my comments based on that.
The nice orchestrations are still there, as are the snare and yes the
spoken word. The combination of string, brass and piano, real or fake, is
richer here than on the last two albums. (I'm not counting An Ambush of
Ghosts because it was mainly rehash...with samples from the movie. Yuck.)
But given Ambush, I was pleasantly surprised with this album, especially
taking into consideration that someone had described their new direction
as 'tehno' which it is not. Nor is it a new direction at all, except
towards a fuller and more dramatic sound. One interesting change that has
been going on for the last few albums is that they are carrying melodies
through sort of the "wrong" chords, not taking things so far as
dissonance but into some really nice, quirky territory--big sweeping
dramatic sevenths and sus fours and that sort of thing.
For the spoken word nonsense, it is pretty close to Duality except that
there is now more singing. The female vocal is even nicer for it, though,
and the male vocal is kind of woven into a chorus that sounds almost
Skinny Puppyish (circa Too Dark Park)...not that there is shouting or
anything. There is also a song sung by Karl Blake--"The Seventh Seal",
written by S. Engel of whom I know naught. There's acoustic guiar
strumming, here. I don't really know what it's doing on the album, but it
fits nicely. It's a superb collaboration, though, and I hope they
continue it at some point. (Is other Karl Blake like this?)
The only thing about this album that annoys me is this one song where
what the guy is saying and the way he's saying it borders on disgusting.
perfectly fine Oscar Wilde text, but the way it is performed...YUCK! It
reminds me of Barry and Lavon from The State. It's narcissistic and
entirely unbelievable. I'm not even compelled to pay attention to what's
said.
Forgiving this, and another track which isn't too much better, the album
is great. Better than Duality if you can look past this one problem.
One other thing: The artwork for this album is absolutely beautiful. A
weird, overexposed photograph of...a spine or something, and a marvelous
little logo thathas to be seen to be believed. Probably the nicest
calligraphy I have seen anywhere, even the lovesliescrushing album and
The Nephilim.
Anyway, highly recommended, especially when this genre has been so
overrun by charlatans, bandwagon-jumpers, and often an intolerable pop
sense.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling and the stale writing. I am feeling pretty
sick at the moment.
einexile
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 06:04:13 +0100
It's late, but I had the flu, so there.
First number is total points, second is how many peaople voted, and
third is the mean vote. (Nasty vote).
81 18 4.5 dead can dance - toward the within
61 18 3.4 lush - split
28 10 2.8 kristen hersh - hips and makers
24 8 3.0 the glee club - mine
23 5 4.6 glee club - mine
21 7 3.0 lisa germano - geek the girl
17 8 2.1 pale saints - slow buildings
10 4 2.5 lush - hypocrite
10 3 3.3 lisa germano - happiness
8 1 8.0 v23 - this rimy river exhibition book
7 5 1.4 various - all virgos are mad
6 1 6.0 wolfgang press - funky little demons
4 3 1.3 kristin hersh - your ghost
4 2 2.0 red house painters - shock me
4 2 2.0 lush - desire lines
3 2 1.5 the breeders - head to toe
3 1 3.0 kristen hersh - strings
3 1 3.0 insides - clear skin
2 1 2.0 throwing muses - bright yellow gun
I note that not a single person voted for Frank Black. I wonder
why... :-) Also note that DCD fans are... *fans*.
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 06:10:06 +0100
First number is total points, second is how many people voted for this
entry, and the third number is the mean vote.
16 4 4.0 portishead - dummy
13 4 3.2 the moon seven times - 7=49
12 4 3.0 love spirals downwards - ardor
12 3 4.0 cranes - loved
10 2 5.0 collection d'arnell andrea - villers - aux - vents
10 1 10.0 robyn hitchcock & the egyptians - the kershaw sessions
8 3 2.7 nine inch nails - the downward spiral
8 2 4.0 stereolab - mars audiac quintet
6 4 1.5 future sound of london - lifeforms
6 2 3.0 velocity girl - simpatico
6 2 3.0 bark psychosis - hex
6 1 6.0 various - kindred spirits compilation (bedazzled)
6 1 6.0 lustmord - the place where black stars hang
6 1 6.0 laika - silver apples of the moon
5 2 2.5 stina nordenstam - and she closed her eyes
5 2 2.5 lovesliescrushing - bloweyelashwish
5 2 2.5 his name is alive - king of sweet
5 1 5.0 tindersticks - self titled
5 1 5.0 of these reminders
5 1 5.0 laurie anderson - tightrope/bright red
5 1 5.0 hyperium - heavenly voices
4 2 2.0 the cranberries - no need to argue
4 2 2.0 loreena mckennitt - the mask and the mirror
4 2 2.0 grant lee buffalo - mighty joe moon
4 2 2.0 echobelly - everyone's got one
4 2 2.0 bryan ferry - mamouna
4 1 4.0 the catchers - mute
4 1 4.0 orange - orange
3 2 1.5 aphex twin - selected ambient works volume ii
3 1 3.0 veruca salt - american thighs
3 1 3.0 sky cries mary - this timeless turning
3 1 3.0 sarah mclachlan - fumbling towards ecstacy
3 1 3.0 oasis - live forever
3 1 3.0 nature and organisation - beauty reaps the blood of solitude
3 1 3.0 loud family - the tape of only linda
3 1 3.0 jeff buckley - grace
3 1 3.0 grenadine - the christiansen ep
3 1 3.0 future sound of london - lifeforms single
3 1 3.0 flying saucer attack - distance
3 1 3.0 cirque du soleil - alegria
3 1 3.0 cabaret voltaire - the conversation
3 1 3.0 ani difranco - out of range
2 1 2.0 various - heavenly voices
2 1 2.0 vangelis - bladerunner soundtrack reissue
2 1 2.0 sunny day real estate - diary
2 1 2.0 suede - dog man star (dlp, nude records)
2 1 2.0 strangelove - time for the rest of your life (dlp, food records)
2 1 2.0 st etienne - tiger bay
2 1 2.0 sheryl crow - tuesday night music club
2 1 2.0 seigmen - total
2 1 2.0 scorn - evanesence
2 1 2.0 pooka - pooka
2 1 2.0 organum - submission
2 1 2.0 nick cave - let love in
2 1 2.0 madder rose - panic on
2 1 2.0 liz phair - whipsmart
2 1 2.0 legendary pink dots - 9 lives to wonder
2 1 2.0 ivy - lately
2 1 2.0 hex - bark pyschosis
2 1 2.0 heavenly - decline and fall of heavenly
2 1 2.0 godmachine - one last laugh in a place of dying
2 1 2.0 front line assembly - millennium
2 1 2.0 chandeen - shaded by the leaves
2 1 2.0 blueboy - unisex
2 1 2.0 blind mr. jones - stereo musicale
2 1 2.0 blake babies - nicely, nicely
1 1 1.0 xtc - drums and wireless (bbc radio sessions '77 - '89)
1 1 1.0 velvet belly - window tree
1 1 1.0 the stone roses - second coming
1 1 1.0 the orchids - striving for the lazy perfection
1 1 1.0 strange boutique - the kindest worlds
1 1 1.0 stoa - urthonia
1 1 1.0 stereolab - ping pong
1 1 1.0 shudder to think - pony express record
1 1 1.0 ropers - ropers
1 1 1.0 rem - monster
1 1 1.0 pink floyd - the division bell
1 1 1.0 pavement - crooked rain crooked rain
1 1 1.0 oasis - definitely maybe
1 1 1.0 lycia - live
1 1 1.0 lush - split
1 1 1.0 low - i could live in hope
1 1 1.0 love is colder than death - oxeia
1 1 1.0 jello biafra and mojo nixon - prairie home invasion
1 1 1.0 james - wah wah
1 1 1.0 jah wobble's invaders of the heart - take me to god
1 1 1.0 in the nursery - anatomy of a poet
1 1 1.0 glee club - mine
1 1 1.0 disco inferno - d.i. go pop
1 1 1.0 difference engine - breadmaker
1 1 1.0 dead can dance - towards the within
1 1 1.0 crime + the city solution - adversary live
1 1 1.0 charlatans - up to our hips
1 1 1.0 cello - alva
1 1 1.0 brainpool - soda (cd, epic records)
1 1 1.0 anchorage - tranquilly the maelstrom starts
1 1 1.0 american music club - san francisco
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 06:06:55 +0100
First number is total points, second is how many peaople voted, and
third is the mean vote.
25 10 2.5 dead can dance - within the realm of a dying sun
21 10 2.1 cocteau twins - treasure
14 7 2.0 dead can dance - the serpent's egg
14 5 2.8 clan of xymox - medusa
11 3 3.7 belly - star
11 2 5.5 lush - gala
10 4 2.5 cocteau twins - victorialand
9 5 1.8 this mortal coil - filigree & shadow
9 5 1.8 cocteau twins - heaven or las vegas
9 2 4.5 throwing muses - the real ramona
9 2 4.5 dif juz - extractions
8 3 2.7 dead can dance - into the labrynth
8 3 2.7 cocteau twins - garlands
7 4 1.8 his name is alive - livonia
7 3 2.3 this mortal coil - it'll end in tears
7 3 2.3 pale saints - in ribbons
7 3 2.3 dead can dance - dead can dance
6 3 2.0 this mortal coil - blood
6 3 2.0 budd, fraser, guthrie, raymonde - the moon and the melodies
6 2 3.0 kristin hersh - hips and makers
6 2 3.0 cocteau twins - love's easy tears
6 2 3.0 cocteau twins - head over heels
5 4 1.2 his name is alive - home is in your head
5 3 1.7 lush - scar
5 2 2.5 throwing muses - throwing muses
5 2 2.5 lush - split
5 2 2.5 cocteau twins - blue bell knoll
5 1 5.0 red house painters - down colorful hill
4 2 2.0 pixies - surfer rosa / come on pilgrim
4 2 2.0 glee club - mine
4 2 2.0 dead can dance - spleen and ideal
4 1 4.0 pale saints - comforts of madness
3 3 1.0 dead can dance - aion
3 2 1.5 cocteau twins - aikea guinea
3 1 3.0 red house painters - red house painters
3 1 3.0 lush - mad love
2 1 2.0 xymox - medusa
2 1 2.0 this mortal coil - song to the siren
2 1 2.0 pale saints - flesh balloon
2 1 2.0 michael brooks - cobalt blue
2 1 2.0 lush - sweetness and light
2 1 2.0 lush - hypocrite
2 1 2.0 his name is alive - mouth by mouth
2 1 2.0 cocteau twins - pearly dewdrops drops
2 1 2.0 cocteau twins - crushed
2 1 2.0 breeders - last splash
2 1 2.0 bauhaus - in the flat field
1 1 1.0 xymox - clan of xymox
1 1 1.0 various - lonely is an eyesore
1 1 1.0 unrest - cath caroll
1 1 1.0 ultra vivid scene - joy
1 1 1.0 the wolfgang press - queer
1 1 1.0 the wolfgang press - funky little demons
1 1 1.0 the wolfgang press - bird wood cage
1 1 1.0 pixies - trompe le monde
1 1 1.0 pixies - doolittle
1 1 1.0 pixies - bossanova
1 1 1.0 kristin hersh - your ghost
1 1 1.0 insides - euphoria
1 1 1.0 his name is alive - the dirt eaters ep
I am flabbergasted! The DCD fans have taken over!
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[email protected] * Lars Ingebrigtsen
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 06:08:50 +0100
First number is total points, second is how many people voted for this
entry, and the third number is the mean vote.
69 20 3.5 cocteau twins
67 20 3.4 dead can dance
39 13 3.0 lush
19 8 2.4 throwing muses
16 9 1.8 this mortal coil
15 7 2.1 his name is alive
13 7 1.9 pale saints
10 7 1.4 pixies
9 5 1.8 belly
8 5 1.6 the breeders
7 4 1.8 the wolfgang press
5 4 1.2 red house painters
4 3 1.3 clan of xymox
4 1 4.0 ultra vivid scene
4 1 4.0 dif juz
3 2 1.5 kristin hersh
3 2 1.5 bauhaus
2 1 2.0 xymox
1 1 1.0 xmal deutschland
1 1 1.0 insides
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Maybe if we pretend this never happened, they'll all just go away.
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 06:13:51 +0100
Almost everybody returned their ballots in the required form, and
tallying just took me one hour, which is a *great* improvement. (And
most of that time I spent writing perl scripts).
That's it for me, I think. I'm off north for the Xmas holidays.
Merry christmas, everybody. I hope you get all the music you've wished
for. :-)
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[email protected] * Lars Ingebrigtsen
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 06:11:19 +0100
First number is total points, second is how many people voted for this
entry, and the third number is the mean vote.
17 4 4.2 various - all virgos are mad
16 4 4.0 frank black - teenager of the year
12 2 6.0 madonna - bedtime stories
10 1 10.0 thanatos - thanatos
10 1 10.0 stone roses - second coming
10 1 10.0 sinead o'connor - universal mother
10 1 10.0 nine inch nails - the downward spiral
10 1 10.0 guided by voices - bee thousand
9 2 4.5 love and rockets - hot trip to heaven
8 2 4.0 cranes - loved
8 1 8.0 spoonfed hybrid - s/t
7 1 7.0 ordo equitum solis - paraskenia
6 2 3.0 pale saints - slow buildings
6 1 6.0 love spirals downward - ardour
6 1 6.0 kristen hersh - strings
5 2 2.5 belly - moon
5 1 5.0 the church - sometime anywhere
5 1 5.0 suede - stay together
5 1 5.0 r.e.m. - monster
5 1 5.0 laika - silver apples of the moon
5 1 5.0 kate bush - the red shoes
5 1 5.0 fsol - lifeforms
5 1 5.0 cocteau twins - four calendar cafe
4 2 2.0 lisa germano - geek the girl
4 1 4.0 tori amos - under the pink
4 1 4.0 that dog - that dog
4 1 4.0 rose chronicles - shiver
4 1 4.0 renegade soundwave - howyadoin?
4 1 4.0 pink floyd - the division bell
4 1 4.0 miranda sex garden - fairytales of slavery
4 1 4.0 insides - euphoria
4 1 4.0 harold budd / andy partridge - through the hill
4 1 4.0 chandeen - shaded by the leaves?
3 1 3.0 the jesus and mary chain - stoned and dethroned
3 1 3.0 the breeders - saints
3 1 3.0 ride - birdman
3 1 3.0 labradford - prazision
3 1 3.0 jawbox - for your own special sweetheart
2 1 2.0 the stone roses - second coming
2 1 2.0 ride - carnival of light
2 1 2.0 opus iii - guru mother
2 1 2.0 kristen hersh - your ghost
2 1 2.0 charlatans - can't get out of bed
1 1 1.0 stereolab - mars audiac quintet
1 1 1.0 speedball baby - speedball baby
1 1 1.0 smashing pumpkins - pisces iscariot
1 1 1.0 skatenigs - what a mangled web we weave
1 1 1.0 lush - split
1 1 1.0 laibach - nato
1 1 1.0 grenadine - nopalitos
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You know?
I'd rather see this on TV.
Tones it down.
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 00:54:47 LCL
>IM(NS)HO, Tsunami and Ms. Toomey could have used a genius like Warren while
>recording "The Heart's Tremelo". Yawn! And to think that the title conjures
>misleading impressions of both Cocteaus (Tinderbox of a...) and MBV
>("Tremolo" ep). I liked "Deep End", but that last record was just a good way
>to ensure a full night's sleep. Anyone agree?
>Attn, Jenny. When a band is praised for its spry, sarcastic,
>playfully-aggressive indie pop/rock, it should not follow up with an album
>of leaden, overly ironic, lethargic, moping whatthehellisthis/rock...
Whatthehellareyoutalkingabout? I thought "The Heart's tremelo" was incredible,
much more calm and beautiful than "deep end." I dont guess you realize it but
"the Heart's Tremelo" is a work of art here.
BTWI thought Slack no longer existed... From what I heard they were just some
band Jenney Toomey played in before Tsunami.
Matt
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 23:28:50 -0800
> 25 10 2.5 dead can dance - within the realm of a dying sun
> 21 10 2.1 cocteau twins - treasure
> 14 7 2.0 dead can dance - the serpent's egg
> 14 5 2.8 clan of xymox - medusa
[etc...]
WHAT?!....WHAT?!!!.....W...H...A...T...?!!!
hnia come in around 14th place! :seering gaze: THIS MEANS WAR!
*k-j* ...don't do crack. it's a ghetto drug...
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 09:14:44 +0000
at Dec 21, 94 06:04:13 am
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 02:00:00 LCL
Want to try and do something good? Not this-listy at all, but i'm
sure some/many will appreciate the following message I received
earlier today.
Keep well
N
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 02:15:00 PST
Okay, I just bought a Lisa Germano album that I thought I didn't
have and it turns out I did... sorta. I had the Capitol version of
Happiness and I bought the 4ad version thinking that different cover meant
new album. WRONG! Can someone explain the whole Capitol/4ad thing to me
where Lisa Germano is concerned? Exactly how many albums does she have, and
which ones are on either label? The 4ad version has different tracks,
different versions and most definitely better artwork. Which came first?
Also, I read in HUH? magazine that 4ad is going to be releasing
Mazzy Star's neverbefore released first album. Any comments?
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 09:48:00 GMT
MR NORMAN N LEVENSTEIN
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 09:05:36 -0600
My congratulations to Portishead for their album _Dummy_, winner of the best
non-4ad album of the year in Lars' poll. I guess I've been sleeping all
year, but I don't have a clue who Portishead is or what their album _Dummy_
sounds like and don't recall any discussion of the band on the list. Could
one of the 16 people who voted for this album please enlighten me as to its
content? Thanks much.
Rich Nelson
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 02:24:26 -0800
On Wed, 21 Dec 1994, Patrick Oltraver wrote:
> Which came first?
the chicken.
> Also, I read in HUH? magazine that 4ad is going to be releasing
> Mazzy Star's neverbefore released first album. Any comments?
that would be Going Home, which is the group hope sandoval was in
prior to joining dave roback in mazzy star. so technically, it's
not mazzy star's unreleased first album...
*k* ...if He has a voice it's just like yours,
butter and honey and milk and water...
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 15:25:06 +0000
94 09:05:36 am
Rich Nelson Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 09:23:38 -0500
"Neil G."
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 09:54:16 -0600
In <[email protected]>, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> 81 18 4.5 dead can dance - toward the within
> 61 18 3.4 lush - split
> 28 10 2.8 kristen hersh - hips and makers
> 24 8 3.0 the glee club - mine
> 23 5 4.6 glee club - mine
So this should actually be
1) 81 18 4.5 dead can dance - toward the within
2) 61 18 3.4 lush - split
3) 47 13 3.6 the glee club - mine
4) 28 10 2.8 kristen hersh - hips and makers
right? I didn't realise that the glee club album was so well-loved. I just
think it's okay...this also means that HNIA comes in at #13, not #14 :)
...continues...
> 21 7 3.0 lisa germano - geek the girl
> 17 8 2.1 pale saints - slow buildings
> 10 4 2.5 lush - hypocrite
> 10 3 3.3 lisa germano - happiness
> 8 1 8.0 v23 - this rimy river exhibition book
> 7 5 1.4 various - all virgos are mad
> 6 1 6.0 wolfgang press - funky little demons
I would have put TWP first, but it's not really a 1994 release. There are a
LOT of other tiny errors in these poll results, mostly due to the voters
(Spoonfed Hybrid? Four Calendar Cafe? 1993 releases) but also due to duplicate
entries being spelled or designated differently, as seen with "glee club" and
"the glee club" above, and for example also in the "Best Artist on 4AD ever"
list with entries for "clan of xymox" and "xymox". I recall last year someone
voted for "cocteaus"...
-shill
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 10:09:04 CST
It looks to me like the Glee Club actually beat out
Kristin Hersh:
> 61 18 3.4 lush - split
> 28 10 2.8 kristen hersh - hips and makers
> 24 8 3.0 the glee club - mine
> 23 5 4.6 glee club - mine
should be:
61 18 3.4 lush - split
47 13 3.6 the glee club - mine
28 10 2.8 kristen hersh - hips and makers
also the Heavenly Voices compilation should be
moved up quite a bit in the favorite non-4AD releases
when the 2 votes for it are combined:
7 2 3.5 hyperium - heavenly voices
Not that anyone else is neccessarily going to be as nit-picky
as me :-)
Also the Stone Roses did a little worse than shown.
I guess I can skip their release, sound like they went the
way of Ride and the Charlatans.
Thanks Lars for handling this poll again. I find it entertaining
and useful, especially the favorite non-4AD releases section.
later on,
Thad
"This isn't death, this is just a textural event"
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 12:50:16 -0500
I voted for Wolfgang Press. If the CD says 1994...isn't that this
year?
TIM CONLON
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 13:23:34 -0500
random thoughts on anatomy
i didnt like it much. i was enjoying ITN grow as a big sound orchestral sort
of band doing very soundtrack oriented things, but this is a new direction.
gone are the lush music and dolores vocals
the song 'the seventh seal' is a direct translation of the famous film with
max von sydow.
i believe karl blake who sings on the track may be the same karl blake who
was on Current 93's thurnder perfect mind cd. (he's the rather charles
mansonish looking fellow in the liner notes)
duality is still my favorite. i always have that cd close by
some of the tracks on anatomy are interesting in the fact they are pieces of
writing by such notables as oscar wilde.
otherwise c+ at best for me
todd sanders
all our movements are the air, the understanding
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 13:23:24 -0500
In his contribution of 94-12-20 23:14:51 EST, [email protected] (Lars Magne
Ingebrigtsen - with me in quotes) wrote:
>> And then, they started in on the "two releases (with different b-sides)
>> for one single" trick, and that was it. That practice should be
>> outlawed (somehow) immediately! And any "artist" who allows
>> themselves to be used in such fashion (supposedly for higher chart
>> showings, they say) should at least disown it loudly in the press!
>
> I kinda like the 2 ep thingies, actually. It might be a scummy thing
> to do, but 4AD does it with some style, at least. The Firepiles did
> feature 6 new tracks (3 covers, 1 new version of song, 2 new songs);
> the Headaches did have 6 brand new tracks, and the Lush eps were
> just too sexy.
Well, yes, 4AD does do it with style (sounds like the crap slogan for next
year's 13YI/AVAM festival), but IT'S STILL WRONG. What, they couldn't fit it
all onto one CD? Yeah, I know - then it couldn't have been an official
single.
All I can say, Lars, is you must be a hell of a lot richer than I am. :G)
Jeremy Orr
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 13:30:54 -0500
Yes, me again...
In his letter sent @ 94-12-20 20:45:48 EST, [email protected] (Alexander
Jeremy Wolfson) wrote:
> I was just in Japan, looking for 12" singles Japan compilation, but
> lack of language made it difficult. Is it still available? Would
> someone in Japan be able to pick it up for me...
> Alternatively, do CDconnection or those type carry it?
Wow, you went clear over there just to look for it? :G) Now, THAT is what I
call devotion! Seriously, color me jealous - I haven't even been out of my
time zone since June of '89!
Anyway, if you're referring to the "1987" 12" compilation, it is no longer in
print. I had a chance at it once, but now it is gone. Say, wouldn't it be
nice if Sire would put out "Chains Changed" and "The Fat Skier" on one CD?
And they could even use the groovy artwork that they vetoed (VERY stupidly)
for "House Tornado". Oh well, I can dream.
And Lars, good work on the polls.
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 13:02:37 -0600
In <[email protected]>, TIM CONLON wrote:
> I voted for Wolfgang Press. If the CD says 1994...isn't that this
> year?
Well, yes, 1994 is this year, but the CD's official release date isn't until
1995. You may have it, and I may have it, but it's not really out yet... :)
-shill
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 14:39:05 -0600
I read somewhere (can't remember where-that always happens at times like
these) that because of some, like, law in the UK, an EP cannot contain
more than four tracks. Apparently, those Evil Bottom Line people at
labels got a swell idea on how to bypass this and perhaps drive singles
up the charts more quickly--simply release two CD singles of the same
single with different bonus tracks! Harumph indeed :(
Anyway, I find it no less annoying than the way American labels can
release a CD featuring 5,964 remixes of a single that runs 66 minutes
total and still call it a "maxi-single." If they can put out a CD that
length for $5.99 retai, why are we being charged $15.99 for "albums"?
Everybody bend over!
Martin
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 16:06:45 -0500
This whole thing about SLACK signing to 4AD is making my head spin. Tell me
if I got this wrong.
First, someone says SLACK is involved with a 4AD band...
Second, someone else wonders if there will be another incestous
signing of SLACK to 4AD...
Third, everyone else starts asking about 4AD's latest signing, SLACK...
Did I miss something here? I don't remember anyone saying SLACK had been
signed by 4AD. Can someone say definitively that they did? And by
difinitively, I mean did they here that they had been sign from someplace
other than this list?
-- Jeff
Jeffrey T. Gayton
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 16:57:56 -0500
Yes, this is how rumors get started. And this is how they get finished. If
anybody is looking at anything I wrote, it was simply a request to clarify a
sentence fragment in a previous message that seemed to imply some kind of
signing of Slack. THAT'S IT. Other folks on the list seem to have much
better info that I do, but, as for me, I had not even heard of Slack before
two days ago. So if anyone is misinterpreting something in one of MY posts,
DON'T DO IT. Why doesn't someone, anyone, who knows something definitive,
post something with details citing the source of the info. I wash my hands
of ALL RUMORMONGERING. As far as I'm concerned, Slack is still out back in
the woodshed till further notice. The prior message raises a point we all
(myself included) should heed; don't play "telephone" with the facts and turn
queries into news flashes. Sorry if I inadvertently contributed to this
phenomenon.
[email protected] (Dave Gionfriddo)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 13:59:49 -0800
hello. my name is Someone, and i'll be your 4ad advisor for the next
few minutes...
On Wed, 21 Dec 1994 [email protected] wrote:
> First, someone says SLACK is involved with a 4AD band...
> Second, someone else wonders if there will be another incestous
> signing of SLACK to 4AD...
>
> Did I miss something here? I don't remember anyone saying SLACK had been
> signed by 4AD.
well, Nils certainly said it...Nils from Subpop. y'now..*the* Nils.
anyhoo, his info correlates with info i have about warren & trey
working with jenny on a side project that was supposed to be put out
by 4ad. so unless mr watts-russell or one of the 4ad spindoctors
wants to get online and confirm this, we can only truly take this as
a "definately maybe" piece of info. that appears to be rooted in truth.
Can someone say definitively that they did? And by
> difinitively, I mean did they here that they had been sign from someplace
> other than this list?
yeah. the other list i'm on. :) that's where i heard it. *i*, for one, do
not start rumours..nor do the people i know. i can't speak for mr. subpop
nils, but i assume he's not going to lie and start a false rumour
either. if you are so interested in getting to the bottom of it, call 4ad.
see if the buffoons in the LA office confirm or deny or even know who
jenny toomey is...
* Someone * ...hey! it's ezekiel, the Amish clown!...
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 14:14:17 -0800
On Wed, 21 Dec 1994,
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 16:46:00 CDT
hello,everybody
there was some interest recently to this new release, so here are couple words.
Last year's "Dewdrops" review of their demos was rather intriguing, so I kept an
eye on them, waiting for CD (They told me they were signed to Silent)
Well, this one was well worth waiting. About 50 min of lulling ambience.
The overall direction is what Slowdive were supposed to take after "Just for a
Day", but turned to more structured compositions. The first track well matches
some of the best from "Blade Runner" soundtrack, but later the way goes into
more warm ocean feel of lazy rythms, distant fuzzy guitars and closed-miked
vocals of Jerry Battle. Stress on "lazy" and "distant" here. You will not find
really memorable songs here, rather, the album succeeds in creating the mood.
Fans of Slowdive, Labradford and Flying Saucer Attack will not be disappointed!
Silent does mailorder (or you can ask at you fav indie store)
101 Townsend St., suite 206
SF CA 94107
415-957-1320 or [email protected]
Salute. Boroda.
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 17:04:00 CDT
Well, this beast may be well familiar to some of the veterans, but for me it
turned out to be a "big" discovery. If the world would have been more or less
rational , the Big Takeover would be the rival for Option or Alternative Press.
In fact, it is beyond comparison..
As it appears to be, the BT have been around for 10+ yrs now.This is a
brainchild of Jack Rabid, music hack and drummer for "Springhouse". 178 pages.
No "Ray Gun" shite, not to say about Calvin Klein ads. Interviews (no 35) with
Swervedriver, Boo Radleys, Jawbox, Buzzcocks, For Against etc. The average
length of interview 7-9 pages (!), no author's comments, just transcription.
Big interview with Steve Albini. Quite witty editorial (music biz, medical
care,crime-you name it). Over 200 album reviews by 5-6 different people, so it
gives more perspective. Very honestly done. Goes out twice a year, $4.50
separate, $16 2-yr subscription. A little fix on punks scene, but overall scope
is broad.
Jack Rabid
249 Eldridge St., #14
NYC NY 10002
Enjoy. Boroda.
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 14:36:12 -0500
I just got Autechre's Amber. An expensive import, I found it in Baltimore,
of all places.
I remember someone in the UK posting recently that he liked it a lot and
it's very rythmic. True. It's faboulous! Kind of a cross between good
Polygon Window and Reload.
BTW, I realise that this isn't 4AD related. The list seems to be talking
about a lot of other stuff these days. Does anyone know if there's an
ambient music discussion list? It's my favourite kind of music. I'd just
as soon discuss is here with everyone else, it is a listy type of thing.
Jan
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 19:23:13 -0600
4AD reording artists list <[email protected]>
Hello all,
I just received an advance cassette of Slowdive's "Pygmalion" and thought
I'd let you know my impressions.
First off, it's ultra ambient, very little in the way of verse/chorus
structure or discernable lyrics. I had heard that it was influenced by
late period Talk Talk & I can definitely hear that. I hazard a guess that
its heavily influenced by Brian Eno and maybe Cindytalk as well. It didn't
come with liner notes, but considering Rachel's past comments about the
more ambient stuff I suspect that most of it is Neil's doing. I don't know
if it will be released in the US, I guess it comes out January 17th or so
in the UK.
Track listing:
"Rutti"
"Crazy For You"
"Miranda"
"Trellisaze"
"Cello"
"J's Heaven"
"Viasions of La"
"Clear Skied An' Blue"
"All of Us"
Someone had posted that there was going to be a Galaxie cover on the
album, well if it's here I certainly don't recognize it.
Lots of keyboards and experimentation with vocal treatments & sampled
sounds. Very beautiful, but don't expect traditional song structure.
The overall impression is one of floating in a pool of warm water, no
sense of weight or boundaries. It took me awhile to get into it, but
after 4 listens I love it.
Happy Holly Daze,
Sanz
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Sanz LashleyDate: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 19:31:50 -0600
[email protected]
Thanks to everyone who sent me questions for Kristin. The interview had
to be postponed until early next year and I'll post the results then.
I've listened to "University" several times now & I absolutely LOVE it
like I haven't loved a Muses album since the 1st one. It's very focused
musically, but at first it seemed kind of dull, but after a few listens
all these layers of sounds surfaced. Its very 60s-ish and I think that
works because Kristin's lyrics have always been so hallucinatory. What
lyrics I can make out are quite beautiful & filled with water imagery.
know which song) & is having them re-shoot it in L.A. on the
27th or so of December.
Happy Christmas, Solstice, what ever you'd like,
Sanz
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Sanz Lashley