Subject: HI
Subject: Re: Is Ivo really a corporate whore?
Subject: Re: FSOL
Subject: Re: DCD: Longing Sea Doves...
Subject: Re: FSOL
Hey, I'm finally back on the list after more than a month with the email being down. I hope you people didn't miss me too much. BTW, does anyone know how to get the mail off digest form and back to regular? I emailed listserv for help and it didn't say how. thanks, Matt
On Sat, 17 Dec 1994 jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU wrote: > This recent diatribe against 4AD's deal with WB is really odd. It seems to > me there are a couple of explanations for it, none of which are fair: > > 1. I don't like 4AD as much as I used to...it must be WB's fault; > 2. Indie-label snobbery/major labels always suck; > 3. I want to keep 4AD to myself and my coterie of cool, like-minded friends > and not share them with the Pearl Jam-lovers of this world. > Thanks for a level-headed and intelligent entry in this thread. Indeed, I've seen lots of alternative snobbery at work in current anti-4AD sentiment. It does seem, as you said, that a lot of fans don't want their favorite artists to be successful. I mean, they want them to eat, but beyond that, if the artists retain some sort of foothold in obscurity then that enhances, somehow, their street cred. I think much of this is based in the romantic notion of the starving artist, a concept no working artist would support, rooted as it is in the deranged idea that laboring for nothing is noble. Like anyone else, artists should enjoy the fruits of the labors. As for the current direction of 4AD, whether you like the fact that the labels music is taking a more accessible alternative rock turn, and distancing itself from the ether-bliss Cocteau thing, is purely a matter of taste. (Besides, the Cocteaus left of their own accord and are now basically an easy listening band.) I've liked a lot of the new stuff (RHP, HNIA, Heidi Berry), hated others (post-Ian Pale Saints, Air Miami), thought some was okay (Breeders, Belly). And, Lush is God, so there.:) Whatever you think of the new music, though it may be more accessible, I'd have a hard time calling any of it commericial sellout, mainly because mass audience tastes are less predictable than we like to think. Though there are many paragons of crap that perpetually litter the Billboard charts, every once in awhile something wonky like Nirvana or Edie Brickell or, Jesus, even the Clash, will score a platinum album. ANd there are many acts out there who attempt to go for the easy buck by adopting a tried-and-true commercial sound, only to fail miserably because their music is so self-evidently soulless. So, I guess what I'm saying is that, despite its higher profile and more radio-friendly persona, 4AD is still a much more interesting label than most out there. IMO. Martin
17 Dec 1994 07:53:10 -0500 > I must admit that my opionion of FSOL is based less on > their music and more on their interviews. They are > obnoxious. And the music really is dull. > > Anyway, I'd love for someone to comment on Global > Communication/Reload. id have to agree there. unless i inhale mass quantities of various green plant, FSOL are *boring.* But GlobalComm/Reload? They rock my world. Short Stories is dark, trancey stuff but that doesn't do it justice; you need to plunk down the $25 (import) and find out for yourself. Global Communication's 76.14 is also excellent. imo, this cd is one of the best ambient releases of this year. add them to your xmas list, -joanna- living in afterglow...
edward pak wrote Where is the DEAD CAN DANCE song THE ENDLESS LONGING OF SEA DOVES found on.. what i would like to know is what is this song? anyone know anything. i have nearly everything of theirs but i have not heard of this. anyone know anything. watts? todd sanders no snappy sig line here
18 Dec 1994 16:16:08 CST." <9412182212.AA15272@MIT.EDU> So. Does anyone have any idea where I can get a copy of this CD? Seems that it was a limited release of some sort, and my usual "go-to" place doesn't have any more copies of it. Thanks. Lawren lcwu@mit.edu
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