Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 23:32:59 -0500
hi i am thinking of buying the rare on air comp, but seeing as how i olny
want the brendan perry track i was wondering if his song 'captive heart' is
just a renaming of american dreaming or i can see now from towards the
within?
any info would be helpful
todd sanders
no snappy line here
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 23:52:39 -0500
There's been some discussion about the Cocteau Twins' last full-length
offering, and being the opinionated sort, I thought I'd put in my two cents'
worth.
I totally agree with Jens Alfke on this one...
> missy pepper
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 15:35:00 EST
i was listening to TTW on headphones and detected some dropouts on track 3,
"Desert Song."
1.30 - left channel
1.54 - left
2.06 - right
2.12 - left
2.24 - left
anybody else have similar experiences, or did i just get a bad disc? i can't
believe these errors got through.
r.
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 22:14:06 -0800
> anybody else have similar experiences, or did i just get a bad disc? i can't
> believe these errors got through.
yep..same with my disc...
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 00:37:52 -0600
AAAHHHHHHHH! i need help really badly! i am in shock, i am shaking!
i am being overdramatic! I am in auditory bliss! i can't believe it!
i have used far too many exclamation marks!
i just bought Bel Canto's "Birds of Passage" on a passing whim, finding it
used for seven dollars AND having a coupon. I remember someone saying that
one of their releases was the best ever this year, along with Geek the Girl,
so i grabbed it. decided i'd check mail and read news before i went to bed,
and opted for the BC over this great Bossanova diski i also got..
Boy am i happy! this is so good i will never stop ranting. (ok, mabye later)
But give me the skinny on this wonderful band! Have i gotten the aforementioned
disk? what are their other releases like? i MUST know, otherwise you will
have to deal with my attack-kitten. Grrrrrr.... ;)
lisa-roo
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 09:25:19 +0000
Dec 14, 94 10:42:38 am
On Wed, 14 Dec 1994, * kelli-jeanne * wrote:
> could someone post it in full? i'll ask someone to buy it for me
> regardless of what else is on it besides the laika track, but
> i am curious to know what else is on the disc....
>
> *k* ...if the dog steps on the power switch, i'm fryin' her
> stuffed baby bear...
>
Node - Olivine [Flood, Ed Buller and chums mucking about with ancient
synthesisers] (debut)
Spiritualized - Good Times (Pure Phase) (remix)
Goya Dress - Foetus
Garbage - Vow [Butch Vig and friends] (debut)
Prolapse - Visa for Violet and Van
Shriek - Girl Meets Girl
Pet Lamb - Son of John Doe
Moby - What Love? [Sounds like a cleaned-up Butthole Surfers, I'm not
sure they put the right track on the CD, or maybe Moby has had a
radical change of direction]
G Love and Special Sauce - Tomorrow Night (live)
Massive Attack - Karma Coma (Bumper Ball dub)
E.A.R. - Space Theme (Tribute to John Cage in C, A, G & E)
Laika - Lower Than Stars
Ride - Only Now (US remix) [Remixing a feeble song to make it even
more feeble is an interesting concept, isn't it?]
Catatonia - Dream On
Love Spit Love - Wake Up (acoustic)
Novocaine - Pond Life
Flinch - Days
Nitzer Ebb - In Decline
Highlights for me are Node, Spiritualized, Garbage, EAR, Laika,
Catatonia.
*a* ...no i haven't got any more paper for the laser printer...
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 12:06:31 +0200
Dec 14, 94 10:14:06 pm
>
> > anybody else have similar experiences, or did i just get a bad disc? i can't
> > believe these errors got through.
>
> yep..same with my disc...
And mine...
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 02:16:14 -0800
On Thu, 15 Dec 1994, A.J. Norman wrote:
...wrote the entire contents of the volume 12 thingamabob. what
a perfectly swell person... :)
> Highlights for me are Node, Spiritualized, Garbage, EAR, Laika,
> Catatonia.
what?! no like ride?! :evil grin:
> *a* ...no i haven't got any more paper for the laser printer...
*k* ...lookie..i got a whole case of paper for a laser printer.
want me to fax you some? hehehehehe...
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 08:13:13 -0600
Dec 15, 94 00:37:52 am
>
>AAAHHHHHHHH! i need help really badly! i am in shock, i am shaking!
>i am being overdramatic! I am in auditory bliss! i can't believe it!
>i have used far too many exclamation marks!
>
Exactly how I felt when I first heard them!!!!!(lots o' exclamation marks!)
Get "Shimering, Warm & Bright" -- also fabulous!!!!!!!!
Ang
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 09:52:41 -0500
>Ok. As for the other tape, I was kinda disappointed by Seefeel and EOST.
>I had heard countless times on this list that they were very (I can't
>believe I'm going to use this word... I already hate myself for thinking it)
>"shoe-gaze-y".
>
Whoa there, man! I'd like a repost of one of those 'countless times'. Shirley
shum mishtake...
>When it actually is quite ambient... which is also good, but
>not what I expected. I know both bands kinda changed their sound, but
>wasn't there a time when they played guitars? Eitherway, they are both
>brilliant, and I love them to death (even though i was suprised).
>Could someone also send me more info about them?
>
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 09:52:10 -0600
In <[email protected]>, missy pepper wrote:
> i just bought Bel Canto's "Birds of Passage" on a passing whim, finding it
> used for seven dollars AND having a coupon.
> Boy am i happy! this is so good i will never stop ranting. (ok, mabye later)
>
> But give me the skinny on this wonderful band!
Many people will recommend "Shimmering, Warm & Bright" but I found it
disappointing and never did listen to it as much as the first two albums. I
*HIGHLY* recommend "White-Out Conditions", their first album. I think it's
on the same par as "Birds of Passage". It's even more brilliant when you
realise just how young Anneli was when she wrote these songs (exact age,
someone might know, but I'm pretty sure she was still a teenager). If you just
can't get enough, find a copy of an album by Tsunematsu Matsui. The title
is something like "Yorokobi no uta" ?? and it features vocals by Anneli
Drecker. "White-Out Conditions" should still be available from Nettwerk
(someone out there can probably supply their email address...)
-shill
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 09:55:17 -0600
I should have mentioned the Bel Canto mailing list. The address is
[email protected]
To subscribe send a message to [email protected]
-shill
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 15:55:52 GMT
jOHN wrote:
>Ok. As for the other tape, I was kinda disappointed by Seefeel and EOST.
>I had heard countless times on this list that they were very (I can't
>believe I'm going to use this word... I already hate myself for thinking it)
>"shoe-gaze-y". When it actually is quite ambient... which is also good, but
>not what I expected. I know both bands kinda changed their sound, but
>wasn't there a time when they played guitars? Eitherway, they are both
>brilliant, and I love them to death (even though i was suprised).
>Could someone also send me more info about them?
EoST certainly started out "shoe-gaze-y" (ahem, at least you didn't say
"etherial"!). I would characterize their first album "Sussurate" as being
half way between "Isn't Anything" MBV and Slowdive's first album. About
the only other thing I can think of to say is they are from the old
Czechoslovakia.
Simon
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 09:52:20 -0800
jOHN asks:
>Ok. As for the other tape, I was kinda disappointed by Seefeel and EOST.
>I had heard countless times on this list that they were very (I can't
>believe I'm going to use this word... I already hate myself for thinking it)
>"shoe-gaze-y". When it actually is quite ambient... which is also good, but
>not what I expected. I know both bands kinda changed their sound, but
>wasn't there a time when they played guitars?
Seefeel's first EP "More Like Space" was by far the most shoegazy; it's
really a fusion of the more ambient MBV stuff with ambient techno. They've
gradually moved away from that. I do believe they still produce most of their
sound with guitar/bass/drums -- just more heavily processed.
Which tracks were on the comp? If you want any more Seefeel, you should get
the "Polyfusia" comp, which has their earlier stuff. "Quique" is great but
has a few weak tracks and is much more ambient. They pull off some very
interesting tricks with out-of-phase loops. "Starethrough" is an excellent
EP, particularly the title track which has some amazing low bass sounds.
EOST's first EP was much more shoegazery, but also rather boring. A pretty
straightforward MBV ripoff. Someone described it as "put on some guitar
effects, play a riff for a while, put on some different effects, play for a
while..." Free-D is a much more interesting album but less guitarry and more
ambient.
So tell _me_ more about Disco Inferno ... there's a track by them on the
"Isolationism" comp that didn't impress me; weird noodling that reminded me a
lot of the various Wire solo projects, like Gilbert & Newman's stuff. Which
is fine if you enjoy that stuff but it don't do much for me.
[On now: Horizon222 "Through The Round Window". Excellent chilled-out trance
techno. Dare I compare it to the first two Orb albums??]
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 13:38:59 -0500
> i just bought Bel Canto's "Birds of Passage" on a passing whim,
> finding it used for seven dollars AND having a coupon. I remember
> someone saying that one of their releases was the best ever this
> year, along with Geek the Girl, so i grabbed it. decided i'd check
> mail and read news before i went to bed, and opted for the BC over
> this great Bossanova diski i also got.. Boy am i happy! this is so
> good i will never stop ranting. (ok, mabye later)
>
> But give me the skinny on this wonderful band! Have i gotten the
> aforementioned disk? what are their other releases like? i MUST
> know, otherwise you will have to deal with my attack-kitten.
> Grrrrrr.... ;)
>
> lisa-roo
Well, actually, they haven't released anything this year - or even last year!
Their last CD was "Shimmering Warm & Bright", which came out in fall of '92.
It's a great album, but may be hard to find since the company that released
it - Dali, a subsidiary of Chameleon - went under about a year ago.
"Birds of Passage" preceded it; I think it came out in 1990. It was their
last as a trio, as Geir Jenssen (I think that's his name) left the band; he
now creates ambient techno under the name Biosphere. And isn't "Intravenous"
a great song? Wow...
Their first album, "White-Out Conditions", came out one or two years before
that. I've never heard it, so I can't really comment on it. I've heard it's
good, but Bel Canto fans tend to be somewhat worshipful, so it might not be
too "honest" of an opinion.
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 12:47:36 +0600
> i was listening to TTW on headphones and detected some dropouts on track 3,
> "Desert Song."
>
...
>
> anybody else have similar experiences, or did i just get a bad disc? i can't
> believe these errors got through.
>
Rob, I thought I was nuts, but I noticed it too! In fact,
I brought the disc back to the store for an exchange, and the
"dropouts" were still there. I know from the old analog days
(sigh) that a whole batch sent to a store will probably be in
error if you discover your copy has trouble, so I'm probably out
of luck in that case. If anyone else has this trouble (although
I can't verify the times reported), please let us know!
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 11:08:55 -0800
those problems are also on the advance release digipak CD.
all this reminds me of the Propaganda album "A Secret Wish"
where there at least they listed all of the audio glitches
on the back of the CD case! but those problems were far less
noticeable than the DCD ones.
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 14:24:10 EST
>If anyone else has this trouble (although
>I can't verify the times reported), please let us know!
Let's change that to "if anyone does NOT have this glitch on their Towards the
Within, let us know"
-Matt
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 14:28:51 -0500
"Snow" has been re-released in large quantities by Fontana. Tower Records'
main store in Boston has approximately 20 copies of it.
Mike
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 14:34:06 -0500
> Let's change that to "if anyone does NOT have this glitch on their Towards the
> Within, let us know"
has anyone noticed if it's on the video and/or laserdisk too?
speaking of TtW - where the hell are the 'limited' box sets available?
Keith
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 15:05:50 -0500
I would imagine that the sound edit would be different for the video, since
there is a lot of extra noise and periods when Lisa and Brendan are talking.
These things were edited out for the CD.
Mike
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 22:38:32 +0100
Dec 15, 94 01:38:59 pm
And lo!, Jeremy Orr spake unto the masses:
>
> Well, actually, they haven't released anything this year - or even last year!
> Their last CD was "Shimmering Warm & Bright", which came out in fall of '92.
> It's a great album, but may be hard to find since the company that released
> it - Dali, a subsidiary of Chameleon - went under about a year ago.
Not where I live - I saw it several times, but was a bit diappointed by
it and didn't buy it..
>
> "Birds of Passage" preceded it; I think it came out in 1990. It was their
This is definitely my favorite by them - very nice indeed..
>
> Their first album, "White-Out Conditions", came out one or two years before
> that. I've never heard it, so I can't really comment on it. I've heard it's
> good, but Bel Canto fans tend to be somewhat worshipful, so it might not be
> too "honest" of an opinion.
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 15:26:39 -0800
see...now i have even more reason to dislike 4ad. first it's
the messed up AVAM video, now it's dcd's audio. one more thingie,
and i'm gonna go do evil things to ivo..like flush his cigs
down the toilet or make him eat prok rinds or something...
harumph, *k*
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 15:35:52 -0800
A: bee-yoo-tee-full soundz.
Q: what do you get when you lock ian masters & warren defever
in a livonia basement?
ah yes...*this* and laika are albums of the year. tied for first.
two genius musicians, whose thinking is a li'l off center, can
come up with some rather divine music when they put their thinking
caps on. i do hope 4ad puts this out, though..it needs a proper
cover, rather than davn's fluff drawings {cute as they are, it's
no v23}...
* k-j * ...no matter what disaster occurred,
she stood in desperate music wound...
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 17:47:05 -0600
This coming Monday is another feature night at Club 950, this time it's
Cocteau Twins night.
I'll be playing an abundance of Twins, along with some DCD, TMC, and other
good stuff to boot. And if you want to hear some new Wolfgang Press tracks,
I'll play some of that too.
Pertinent info, briefly: located at 950 West Wrightwood in Chicago (corner of
Lincoln, Sheffield, Wrightwood) Must be 21, open 9 pm until about 1:45 am,
easy parking on Mondays, drink specials 75c draft beer or $3.50/pitcher. Very
friendly DJ will play your requests if he has them (and if they're CT, he
*WILL* have them, unless he forgets something, in which case, D'OH!)
Telephone 312-929-8955, check the Reader, or email me at [email protected]
if you need to know more!
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 15:58:42 -0800
Date: 14 Dec 1994 18:23:56 GMT
THROWING MUSES FANS !!!!!!!
I just found this great little Web site, called Addicted to
Noise that's got a little preview of the Throwing Muses album
"University". (http://www.addict.com/ATN/adverts/Sire/December/)
It includes the album cover (cool!), a Throwing Muses biography,
AND 45 minute MPEG excerpts of 'Bright Yellow Gun' and 'Shimmer'.
Check it out!
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 19:30:29 LCL
*k-j* spews forth:
> A: bee-yoo-tee-full soundz.
ok, what favors and for whom will lead an ugh-lee sownd to zis
boodifull moozik? is dis (or dat) called "...ESP Summer..." or is
that how you describe it? Is it called "spoonfed saints are alive" or
something?
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 20:28:26 EST
pepper" at Dec 15, 94 12:37 am
According to missy pepper:
>
> AAAHHHHHHHH! i need help really badly! i am in shock, i am shaking!
> i am being overdramatic! I am in auditory bliss! i can't believe it!
> i have used far too many exclamation marks!
agreed. BoP was the first one I bought on a similar whim a few
years back. I think I went out and bought WOC the same week
along with the few singles I could find. Wonderful stuff. I
like all three albums but think that WOC is my favorite..
absolutely creepy music- I was reading Lovecraft's At the
Mountains of MAdness when I first listened to it. It sounds
like music to listen to trudging through Arctic/Antarctic snow
and ice fields- very eerie and lonely I think.
go get the other albums.. asap.
just my 2c
ted
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