Subject: It's polling time!
Subject: Blockbuster Music
Subject: DCD / Garden of Arcane .
Subject: Rightwing ha
Subject: ultracindy...
Subject: Re: etc....
Subject: Grenadine
Subject: Re: Grenadine
Subject: ...lsd's 'kykeon' question...
Subject: Re: ...lsd's 'kykeon' question...
Subject: kykeon
Subject: Re: kykeon
Subject: LISA GERMANO: "Boo!"
Subject: Top 94 Songs of 1994
Subject: REVIEW: Ambient 4: Isolationism
Subject: Re: REVIEW: Ambient 4: Isolationism
Subject: New Cindytalk album : Wappinschaw
Subject: lisa germano's psychopath
Subject: Re: ...the end is near...
Subject: Fairytales of Slavery
Subject: DCD: Longing Sea Doves...
Subject: Re: HNIA is burning to be in my collection, but which?
Subject: Re: Germano "Psychopath" sample
Subject: LAIKA (was) RE: kykeon
Subject: Reply to LAIKA (was) RE: kykeon
Subject: Re: ...the end is near...
Subject: Re: HNIA is burning to be in my collection, but which?
Subject: Re: LAIKA (was) RE: kykeon
Subject: Re: Reply to LAIKA (was) RE: kykeon
Subject: Re: my bloody valentine lyrics anyone!!!
Subject: NETTWERK CONTEST
Subject: Re: Grenadine
Subject: does anyone know anything about TONE?
Subject: Eden
Subject: v23 book/this rimy river?
Subject: AVAM video
Subject: any suggestions for someone new to Dead Can Dance?
Subject: Re: any suggestions for someone new to Dead Can Dance?
Subject: DCD BOOTS / ANYONE HAVE REAL TRACK LISTING?
Subject: Re: does anyone know anything about TONE?
Subject: GRRRRRRRRRRR!
Subject: Re: LAIKA (was) Re:LAIKA (is!)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 06:52:56 +0100
Snow, snow. Sleet, sleet. Rain, rain. Christmas is here again.
So it's time for the year-end poll. To decrease the amount of work I
have to do, I must insist on that people follow the annoying rules
beneath. The tallying process will not be touched by human hands - it
will all be done by A Big Computer, and you know how stupid they are.
Here are the rules:
1) There are five categories.
a) Your favourite release from 4AD this year.
b) Your favourite release from 4AD ever.
c) Your favourite band on 4AD ever.
d) Your favourite release not from 4AD this year.
e) The most disappointing release this year, on 4AD or off.
Vote in any or all of these categories.
2) You have ten points to hand out *in*each*category*. Let's take
category d) as an example:
---- EXAMPLE ---------
d)
4 Phothished - Stupid
1 Cabaret Artaud - The Monologue
2 Russian Astronaut Dog - Self Titled
3 Sick muze - Twist'n'Sequence
---- EXAMPLE END -----
As you can see, the points cleverly add up to 10.
2) All the categories have to be formatted exactly like you see
above. Start with the category ("a)", "b)", etc), then your votes with
the points first, group name second and release name third.
2) Any votes that do not follow that format will confuse my poor
computer.
2) There are four rules named "2".
3) Send your votes to '[email protected]'. Do not send them to this
list.
4) Your votes have to be in before Dec. 15.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
[email protected] * Lars Ingebrigtsen
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 07:49:00 +0200
>einexile wrote [some text omitted]:
>> You would rather the
>> employees decide for the owners what their stores will be like?
DG , said on 12/02/94
> No, I would not. I just don't think that the length of a person's
>hair or whether they choose to decorate their earlobes has anything to
>do with job performance. The qualities I would look for in a retail sales
>employee do not include such arcane aspects as short hair for men and
>long "feminine" hair for women.
Although, I don't think it really applies to the music retail industry as much a
to other
business, something needs to be said for looking smart in a career. At the momen
I have long
hair and two earrings (I am male btw) and as soon as a graduate, I am going to h
ve to cut the
hair and loose the earings. I am studing engineering, which (in SOuth Africa at
east) is still
very formal and if I wanted to get a job with a presigous company (like Anderson
Consultin, or
Siemens etc) I would have to look 'respectable'. ALthough wothout the earings an
with my hair
tied back I dont look scruffy, It is not smart enough for the type of people who
have been in
engineering for the last 20 years. Thats the way life is and I am not proud enou
h to turn down
a good job just to make a point/statement.
gnome
Gnome
[email protected]
P.O. Box 786782 Sandton 2146 RSA
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 07:49:00 +0200
I work in a software retailer on weekends. After listening to the introduction t
'Under a
killing moon' for the 83time I got the hell in and went to my car to fetch the c
rtrage from
my shuttle. I put on DCD a paasage in time and my boss asked me who it was. When
I told him
he say's that he has one of their records at home, so I asked to boorrow it.
What it is is a vinyl recording of Garden of Arcane Delights. 4 tracks , BAD
408. is
this rare or unusual in any way????
Gnome
Who just compleded his TMC collection with I' E' I' TEARS and after 83 spins
is still
not tired.
Gnome
[email protected]
P.O. Box 786782 Sandton 2146 RSA
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 07:49:00 +0200
Right wing left wing chicken wing.
Hah
Pah
I am a South African, and until you people have 40 years of what we just hav
I don't
think you'll top us on anything right or left wing. How many people have died in
yr country
so that people can have long hair at cd shops.
Gnome
Who actually believes that deep fried chicken wings is the only way to go.
Gnome
[email protected]
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Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 23:50:10 -0800
Hey, I noticed Ultracindy go by... it's a good band from Brilliant records
which is an American melodic indie like SpinART or something... actually,
I don't know what the hell is wrong with SpinART now, I heard the Zeke
Fiddler and I think it's awful.
more cross-fertilization between 4AD and that indie-list world which
exists parallel to 4AD but makes equally heartfelt music. It's a nice
counter to people who impose contrived, artificial limits upon themselves,
who think that somehow you have to sound tormented to have depth.
I know people who never would have touched Unrest when they were on 7"
but were all over them once they signed with 4AD. Hmm, I'm babbling.
I didn't go to AVAM but the whole thing kind of leaves me cold. I still
haven't gotten over the Cocteau Twins not being on anymore. It just
doesn't ring true with me. I finally got Four Calendar Cafe & it's good.
Kevin
ba bada ba ba ba ba I just get caught out..
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 03:25:11 -0600
On Thu, 8 Dec 1994, Julian Stewart wrote:
> 1) Jazz Butcher/Jazz Butcher Conspiracy: Just picked up "Waiting for the
> Love Bus" the other day. Pat Fish is an _amazing_ songwriter. And
> anybody who covers "Everybody's Talking" gets brownie points :)
Am I the only one around these parts who thinks the Jazz Butcher gets old
really quickly?
> 2) Nick Drake: Everbody needs to own a copy of "Five Leaves Left." These are
> incredibly powerful songs...no doubt in my mind that Ivo would attempt
> to sign him were he still alive. Heidi Berry's male counterpart....
Oh no, I'd disagree here. While i think Heidi Berry's roots in British Folk
can be traced to Nick Drake, i'm sure she's much much happier then Nick
probably was at any time in his too-short life.
kagin
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 01:29:06 -0800
Is it just me (you can probably answer this k-j) or is
the new Grenadine album *almost* not worth the wait? Sure,
I haven't heard it more than a couple times, but somehow the
songs don't seem as strong as on Goya. There's a few good
ones, yes, but don't the ones that Jenny sings on seem
like outtakes from the recent Tsunami album?
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 01:58:47 -0800
> Is it just me (you can probably answer this k-j) or is
> the new Grenadine album *almost* not worth the wait? Sure,
> I haven't heard it more than a couple times, but somehow the
> songs don't seem as strong as on Goya. There's a few good
> ones, yes, but don't the ones that Jenny sings on seem
> like outtakes from the recent Tsunami album?
well, first...let me say this: i like both albums. however, i
think goya has the edge on this one. warren's production
aside {and his touch only truly shines on the christiansen
ep}, i'm rather bummed with jenny's vocals. i'm not a tsunami
fan, though i've heard enough of their music to know what all
the fuss is. i think a problem with nopalitos {which i've only
given a good run-through this afternoon} is jenny's vox...i like
the way it was brought out and mixed on 'srew'. in fact, i
prefer that version of the song than what appears on the album.
but as i went through all the songs on nopalitos i was sort of
disappointed that warren didn't do something more with her voice.
she doesn't have a bad voice at all, but it seems sort of flat and
dry on the record..and that starts to rub off on her songs. i was
aching for something more interesting from her than what i got.
when i give the disc a few more spins, i'll come to a more coherent point
with what i like & dislike about the recording. overall, it is a great
record. i wasn't expecting another goya {i like to keep my hopes down
when a band releases a record, just in case it turns out to be the
worst thing ever}, so this works for me. 'this girl's in love with
you' is just a *great* song. my friend had taped a somewhat cleaner
version of the song for me {and forgot to list it on the tape} and
though it isn't anything special, it's still a song that is both sweet
and beautiful. just lovely. i like the jangley happiness of many of the
songs...it's all very light and mellow and funny in some instances...
just good ear candy, as they say. and thanks to warren, i now know all
about questionable cattle ear-marks...
* k-j * ...'no habla Beatnik, okay?'...
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 02:36:16 -0800
lessee...i know it's on a hyperium comp., the new cd, and the
altered mind flexi..but what is the diff. between the three
versions? the one on the hyperium comp sounds like the one on
ardor, but i don't have the flexi version so that's why i
am wondering....
*k* ...hey, isn't that Hecubus playing keyboards for DCD?...
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 02:58:28 -0800
On Fri, 9 Dec 1994, * kelli-jeanne * wrote:
> lessee...i know it's on a hyperium comp., the new cd, and the
> altered mind flexi..but what is the diff. between the three
> versions? the one on the hyperium comp sounds like the one on
> ardor, but i don't have the flexi version so that's why i
> am wondering....
The Ardor version is slightly different from the 50 Years of Brain Damage
track, though it's possible that it's the same recording, treated
somehow. It's about as similar as the version of Love's Labour's Lost
that appears on Heavenly Voices. (I wonder why the title wasn't tweaked
like they normally do?)
The Altered Mind flexi does not exist. It was accidentally pressed with
Veruca Salt demos and recalled by order of the Surgeon General. :P
Fanzines. Can't live with 'em.
einexile
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 03:06:24 -0800
..yep..my mistake with the hyperium & L.S.D. comps. i'm getting
all confoozled. there's just too many compilations.... :(
*k* ...i command e to buy this laika album, & everyone else as well...
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 03:43:10 -0800
On Fri, 9 Dec 1994, * kelli-jeanne * wrote:
> ..yep..my mistake with the hyperium & L.S.D. comps. i'm getting
> all confoozled. there's just too many compilations.... :(
No, not if you're talking about what I think you are. A version of
"Noumena of Spirit" appeared on Hy!
Ah, hell with it...
Gray land 3 - Mediterranea, Forgo (version)
Hy! - Noumena
50 Years - Kykeon (version)
Heavenly Vox - Love's Labour Lost
...plus the two btbg covers from o' these reminders...
einexile, who thanks to mouse on mars will never buy from t.p. again! :p
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 03:55:46 -0800
On Thu, 8 Dec 1994, Susan Curran wrote:
> > This said, I am disturbed by the use of the sample in this song
> > Psychopath (I think we're talking about the same track, here?). If I
> > remember correctly, the woman in that recording was neither raped nor
> > stalked nor mistreated by her boyfriend, but rather murdered and robbed
> > by a total stranger. That memory is very vague, though, and I'd
> > appreciate someone clearing it up for me. Hopefully I'm wrong, but if
> > not, I'd find it pretty sick that it would be misused that way. As it is
> > now it kind of ruins the album for me knowing that someone's murder was
> > misrepresented in order to make a point.
> Well, I think that's part of the point - you're -supposed- to be disturbed by
> it certainly, although what you're talking about is something else entirely.
What I'm talking about is being disturbed by the ethical status of
someone's actions, such as murdering someone, or putting a recording of
it on your album, or deciding for them that what's important about their
murder is that they were raped in the process. What I'm not talking about
is being disturbed by how powerful the album is, and I think people who
say they're disturbed by music are lying. Which are you talking about?
> I don't know what you mean by saying that this woman's death/rape was
> misrepresented. Lisa used the sample in order to make a point, and she
> certainly doesn't take such things lightly.
Yes she does. She may be very pious and self-righteous about it, and she
may feel that it is her place to use such material to make whatever point
she wishes to make, but she's wrong. Maybe I can forgive it if the story
is true and she is plagued by that 911 call, but I have no reason to
believe this is the case and you don't get to refer people to your press
release when they don't understand your album.
> It's chilling, harrowing and speaks tomes about the state of women,
It certainly does.
> the state of society,
What does society have to do with it? Did society turn a nice guy into a
murderer? Did society not provide a good enough police force, or stupidly
expect that woman to defend herself instead of making others do it for
her?
> and even the state of the police department/911 staff that didn't take
> this victim seriously until it was too late.
Are you sure? My recollection is that the person who handled the call did
his job just fine, and this is what I get from the sample on the disc as
well. Do you really think they heard this screaming woman on the phone
and thought "to hell with it"? you may be right, but it sounds like a
fantasy to me and you'd better be sure before you go blaming a murder on
a third party's incompetence. I disagreed with what he told her to do,
but his behavior was proper and it's was not his obligation to tell her
to stop blubbering and get up and do something.
> It may be under the guise of "entertainment" to use the term
> ambiguously, but it's certainly not entertaining, nor is it meant to be.
Then why is it a song? Why is it on an otherwise entertaining album? This
is the attitude that allows for such treatment of someone's suffering:
that art is as important as life, that truth can be portrayed in fiction.
A Lisa Germano album is like a good hot dog or a pet turtle. It's for
fun. Let's not blow this out of proportion just because she has.
> I don't think she belittles the incident in any way - she's simply trying
> to raise people's awareness because things like that and Kitty Genovese
> don't have to happen.
Raise awareness of what? Who here is not aware that people are sometimes
murdered in their homes? What are you saying here? That Lisa Germano is
trying to convince us not to break into people's houses and kill them?
It didn't work on me. The lyrics to that song are silly. If you were
murdered, would it be okay for me to assume your permission to make it
into any kind of song I wished, for whatever end I believed to be right
and just and awareness-boosting?
Anyway, I'll bet you it wasn't even her idea.
einexile
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 00:29:00 -0500
For the third year in a row I am compiling the top 94 songs of 1994 to be
played back on CKMS 100.3 FM in Waterloo. I am asking that people try to
email me their lists using the following format. Keep in mind that you
should try not to list your local indie garage acts that I have probably
never heard of. Also keep in mind that you can not list songs that have
been reissued this year. Try to make sure that the release came out in
1994. Please have all replies in by Jan. 19 1995. Here's the format to
use. Thanks in Advance
Song Title CD Title Artist Label
1
2
3
4
5
and so on.
PS. if you don't know the label that is ok. Please list your top 30. Thanks
... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 09:29:16 -0800
"[email protected]" Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 10:30:40 -0800
"[email protected]" Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 13:25:43 -0500
It`s Friday the 9th and last night I got a copy of Wappinschaw in the mail
with a very nice note from Gordon. I`ve only had a chance to listen to it a
few time all the way through, but I can definitely say that I LOVE THIS ALBUM
and it was worth the wait (although I hope there won`t be another wait like
this for new material).
I almost laughed when I played the first song. ``The First Time Ever...`` is,
if I`m not mistaken, a song done by a MoTown artist (Gladys Knight, or
someone like that). But then again, she could have covered it from someone
else and it`s just a long line of covers but anyway, that has nothing to do
with Cindytalk`s version of it. It`s a beautiful song with no musical
accompanyment that preludes an extremely (in my opinion) romantic album. From
the references, lyrics, etc. a lot of it points to romantic attachments. Then
we kick into Song of Changes from the Secrets + Falling EP. The only
difference on this is the sounds from the movie Spirit of the Beehive are
left out. Followed by that is Empty Hand, also from S+F. Return To Pain
builds quietly then explodes and will satisfy anyone wanting the
``beautiful`` version of Gordon`s voice. Actually, there`s a lot of that on
this album, less of the threatening weapon-like vocals of In This World.
Wheesht starts with a story about a boy`s drawing and his understanding of
where the horizon and sky meet. Building in the background is the loop from
Touched on In This World. This track ends with lots of noise and
unintelligable shouting in the background. Snowkisss has the piano work of In
This World vol. 2 and The Wind Is Strong... with more beautiful vocals. The
song Secrets and Falling follows with great percussion are the lead
instrument rather than the guitar. Disappear is a real tension-fest. Seems we
have several songs on this album that build up from something quiet to either
something loud or something tenser than the beginning. Traumlose Nachte is
piano, horns, and no vocals. Kind of light and quiet. And Now In Sunshine is
a new version with additional lyrics and similar music although changed with
more horns and less of the evil lughing guitar that the song originally ended
with. I love both versions but really miss the ending of the first version
not being on the new one. Prince of Lies is also a new version cleaned up and
less raw than the version on the 7-inch. The last song Hush ends with vocals,
light guitar, sound samples, and beautiful bagpipes (about 2-3 minutes of
it). I`ve never really paid attention to bagpipes before, mainly becuase what
I heard was always badly recorded clatter. But on this you can really tell
that it`s a beautiful instrument. Hidden a few minutes after Hush ends is
Muster (from the 7-inch). This, even though it`s the same version, sounds
better than the vinyl. Maybe it`s just that I have a shitty record player (I
do, actually).
That`s my opinion. It has the noise, it has the shouting, it hads the quiet
moments, it has the pretty voice that Ivo of 4AD preferred, it has all the
aspects of the previous albums. In fact, if someone were to ask me which one
to start on, I`d say Wappinschaw. Then once they decided what aspect they
liked best, you could point them in the direction of which album to try next.
When I called him, he was writing up press releases and trying to get them in
the mail today. He`s going to send me a press packet to copy and send to
American magazines to get as much possible exposure as possible. If anyone
can think of any magazine, zine, publication, etc that might look favorably
on this, send me contact info ([email protected]) so I can forward it
appropriately. I`ll post the content when I receive it.
Also, Gordon didn`t know that the track he recorded for the Emigre Sampler #3
was out yet. He hasn`t received his copies of the CD yet. I haven`t got the
copy that I ordered either, but it`s supposed to take 4-6 weeks, so I`ll
wait.
Post any info you`ve got......................................... Paul
([email protected])
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 13:26:10 EST
well, this discussion is nearing resolution - i just heard an interview with
lisa on the radio (wbai 99.5 new york) and luckily (obviously) they talked
about psychopath...i will transcribe the interview tomorrow...it was pretty
informative and she is the coolest geek i have ever known (heard).
...a baseball bat, a baseball bat
peter
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 13:47:57 -0500
Finally, a really fun thread!
1. Orbital, Snivilisation -- a great concept album, a terrific mix of
ambient and hard techno (as always with these guys), and a huge amount of
innovation. I love this.
2. Dead Can Dance, Toward The Within -- Call me die-hard or something,
but I love most of this album, especially the songs at the beginning and
the end.
3. Trance Planet (compilation) -- a great compilation of multinational
exotic musics (meaning most of the individual groups are multinational),
containing a good number of songs that fuse traditional Eastern and Arabic
sounds with contemporary musical innovations and technology. (Hmm, sounds a
little like a blurb I read for _Toward The Within_ :-) . . .)
4. Miranda Sex Garden, Fairytales of Slavery -- I've already gone on
about this one -- the best real rock ablum of the year. Original, dreamy,
Gothic, arty, cacaphonous and sexy . . .
Very good:
1. Autechre, Incunabula -- It took a while for this to grow on me, but
it's very engaging electronic ambience.
2. B12, Electro-Soma -- Along the same lines, but with more of a beat.
It's great just to let yourself sink into this . . .
3. Artificial Intelligence II -- I like this, though it didn't delight me
as much as the first AI compilation. It's a good compilation to use as
a reference point when you want to figure out which other current "electronic
listening music" releases to buy.
4. Sheila Chandra, The Zen Kiss -- She is sensational when she drones!
This contains some fine meditative music -- better than Chandra's previous
releases. The "Speaking In Tongues" pieces could use some livening up, though t
ey're
interesting. I'd put this in my "Best" category if it weren't for the more
pretentious wimmin's pieces, like that ridiculous tale about the mother proudly
showing her baby the womb that he had come from . . .
1. St. Etienne, Tiber Bay -- Some good tracks here, but it could have been
better, and I ultimately found it disappointing for St. Etienne.
2. Slowdive, Souvlaki -- I have similar feelings about this. I liked it
more at first, but ultimately it paled next to their beautiful first LP,
_Just For A Day_. And, as with St. Etienne's album, I've got all kinds of
unanswered questions re. the rumored deterioration from British release to
domestic, the necessity (or lack thereof) to include certain bonus
tracks (or remixes in St. Etienne's case), etc. . . .
3. The Future Sound of London, Lifeforms -- Maybe this shows I'm not a hardcore
ambient fan, but I didn't find this to be as sensational as other people
were claiming. There's so much filler noise on this album, and much of
it is just too soporiphic for me. Although, if I'm falling asleep
already, it can be a very nice soundtrack for my dreams.
4. Le Mystere Des Voix Bulgares, Ritual -- I love the Bulgarian women
live, but this release is a bit quaint for my tastes. I wish there were
yet more vocal tracks and fewer traditional East European instrumentals.
Don't Bother:
1. Bark Psychosis, Hex -- What was all the fuss about? This is generic
inie-rock doodling to me, with little in the way of excitement or enchantment.
2. Vision, The Music of Hildegard Von Bingen -- Talk about lack of
excitement! I wish they'd given this project to Dead Can Dance or one
of the groups on _Trance Planet_. It's supposed to be a mixture of medieval
vocals and "worldbeat," which could be terrific. But it's got that
annoying New Age Muzak quality of not wanting to raise anyone's pulse . . .
-- Richard Singer
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 14:00:00 +0200
RS , said on 12/09/94
>I finally picked up this album (tape, in my case) by Miranda Sex Garden,
>and I want to say, I do like it! In fact, I haven't enjoyed a
>-- Richard Singer
>
Have to agree it is a totally excellant group/album.
Gnome
I found a MSG908T number plate lying on the road. It would make a great albu
cover.
Gnome
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 12:35:04 -0500
Where is the DEAD CAN DANCE song THE ENDLESS LONGING OF SEA DOVES found on..
-Eddie
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 13:13:38 -0500
In message Thu, 8 Dec 1994 00:01:06 -0800,
* kelli-jeanne * put down Ninja-Kitty and whispered:
> the dirt eaters ep & mouth by mouth are more on the
> quirky-accessible side...it's experimentation of a different nature...
Well, I have to disagree. MBM is the one I play the most... next to HIIYH.
Livonia being the least.
> it seems like new ground being broken, but it's not..it doesn't
> feel like it. kinda odd. it can rokk and it can be creepy or touching,
> playful and light, or weird and goofy. if you want some upbeatness
> in your life, buy mouth by mouth and never let it get past track one.
> it's a gem.
What about DRINK DRESS AND INK!!!??? What a Koolio song! And same with IN
EVERY FORD and TORSO. MBM may not be a "ground breaking" album, but neither
is Livonia, with it's THIS MORTAL COIL esk feel.
> :) king of sweet is more for the longtime fans..a long
> ebb & flow of various songs and demo-ish material and some hicks saying
> their goodbyes atthe very end {no offense to any hicks on the list}. :)
Are you sure they're not Amish people?
hehe
> hmm..i guess i wrote enough. i'm sure someone else can shed a much
> more coherent viewpoint on the subject...
>
Doubt it.
> *k* ...not the least bit angry with jOHN, btw...
>
> well, not anymore ;)
>
Ya-hooo!! ... oops, i regressed back to my hick stage again... sorry about
that.
-jOHN and SGT. Tibbs who are both running on 2 hours of sleep
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 15:26:40 -0500
In message Thu, 8 Dec 1994 02:15:58 -0800,
vilexile
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 15:46:58 -0500
In message Fri, 9 Dec 1994 03:06:24 -0800,
* kelli-jeanne *
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 14:54:17 -0600
09 Dec 94 15:46:58 EST" <[email protected]>
>> *k* ...i command e to buy this laika album, & everyone else as well...
>>
>I second this command. That includes you *K*... taped copies don't count!
> -jOHN
OK, my interest is pricked. (take that last sentence and run with it)
What exactly am I supposed to buy?
And since when did *kj* become *k* ? Getting a little too familiar aren't we?
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 13:16:09 -0800
> 2. Vision, The Music of Hildegard Von Bingen -- Talk about lack of
> excitement! I wish they'd given this project to Dead Can Dance or one
> of the groups on _Trance Planet_. It's supposed to be a mixture of medieval
> vocals and "worldbeat," which could be terrific. But it's got that
> annoying New Age Muzak quality of not wanting to raise anyone's pulse . . .
ugh..this reminds me. i was listening to Chris Douridas {KCRW} not too
long ago..may have been last week, for all i can remember, and he had an
early music ensemble in the studio..anyway, he mentioned some project
that was taking the music of ol' Hildy and :groan: putting it with
some sort of techno *dance* music. it's not a finished project as far as i
know, but this really made me kind of sick...
*k*
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 13:27:07 -0800
On Fri, 9 Dec 1994, Sgt. Tibbs morphed into jOHN's body to write:
> > the dirt eaters ep & mouth by mouth are more on the
> > quirky-accessible side...it's experimentation of a different nature...
>
> Well, I have to disagree. MBM is the one I play the most... next to HIIYH.
> Livonia being the least.
you can't disagree and say you play MBM the most..that's sort of what
i was getting at, silly! quirky-accessible...probably something a
new fan would play more often than the other releases... :)
> What about DRINK DRESS AND INK!!!??? What a Koolio song! And same with IN
> EVERY FORD and TORSO. MBM may not be a "ground breaking" album, but neither
> is Livonia, with it's THIS MORTAL COIL esk feel.
and just who's fault was that, hmmmmm? can we say, IVO? ;)
> Are you sure they're not Amish people?
> hehe
i've never seen warren with his full beard & glasses, but i've been told
it's a rather creepy sight. he sure does know an awful lot about
barn raisings, though me thinks he's watched 'Witness' one too many
times...
* k-j * ...PA amish are *still* koolio, even with that psycho story
jOHN sent me from the newspaper...
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 13:29:36 -0800
> > *k* ...i command e to buy this laika album, & everyone else as well...
>
> I second this command. That includes you *K*... taped copies don't count!
> -jOHN
they do count when you don't have a job and about .35 cents in your
saving's account...
and that be *k* with a li'l k!!!! no caps!!! ;)
*k*!
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 13:36:35 -0800
> >> *k* ...i command e to buy this laika album, & everyone else as well...
>
> >I second this command. That includes you *K*... taped copies don't count!
> > -jOHN
>
> OK, my interest is pricked. (take that last sentence and run with it)
> What exactly am I supposed to buy?
i don't like the word 'pricked'. i prefer 'piqued' {pronounced pea-Kayed}.
anyhoo, you're supposed to buy the laika full length. of course, if
you hate female whispery vox and drums and percussion from outer space
and some pretty kool lyrics, then you shouldn't buy it...
> And since when did *kj* become *k* ? Getting a little too familiar aren't we?
* k-j * becomes *k* when i get too lazy to put the -j in.
*k* ...just a li'l too familiar with sargent tibbs?...nah.....
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 17:07:17 -0500
"To Here Knows When"
Kiss your face
Your red button
Falls from my mouth
Slip your dress
Over your head
It's been so long
Ahhhh Ooooh Oooooh (etc)
Move on top
Because that way
You touch my tongue
Turn your head
Come back again
To here knows when
Ahhhh Ooooh Oooooh (etc)
"Blown A Wish"
Midnight wish
Blow me a kiss
I'll blow you one, too
Make like this
Try to pretend it's true
Show me all your favorite things
I'll show you all mine, too
Make a wish
I'll give it all to you
Welcome to your purposes
Welcome to mine, too
Make like this
I'll turn it in with you
Fall apart my bleeding heart
Nothing left to do
Once in love
I'll be the death of you
Those are the only MV BV lyrics I can recall at the moment.
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 18:59:30 -0500
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 19:55:00 -0500
hrrrm. i'd have to disagree. i think nopalitos is far better than goya, not
just because of w. defever's production, either. goya's songs tend to all
sound the same to me, i suppose the one i like best on that album is 'i only
have eyes for you.' anyway, i like nopalitos more every time i listen to it,
even after some initial disappointment (i had hoped that i would sound more
like the christiansen e.p.). 'hell over hickory dew' is brilliant, oh, never
mind, the entire album is brilliant. buy it....
tony
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 20:00:03 -0500
wow. i'm listening to a cd by a band called Tone called 'Build' that the
radio station i dj at received. well, it's quite fantastic - lots of
guitars, just instrumental. someone told me that 'someone from unrest' is in
this band. does anyone know anything about Tone?
tony
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 20:02:40 -0500
does anyone know when the new Eden full-lengther will come out? it was
scheduled for release in november, but i guess it was delayed since i haven't
gotten a postcard from projekt. i certainly hope that it is similar in sound
to the healingbow e.p. the healingbow e.p. is just plain wonderful.tony
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 20:01:32 -0500
in kj's best/worst of the year posting, she said something about a v23 this
rimy river book. is this something that was only available at the avam
concerts or what? i'd love to have one if i could find one...
tony
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 17:04:52 -0800
Does anyone out there have the AVAM video compilation that just came out
this year? Or does anyone know a store that is selling it? If so, then
could you give me the number to that place? I've looked all over my
town and can't find it. Please respond back to me by personal e-mail.
Thank you,
Delphine
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 20:08:42 -0500
hey there. i really liked the dcd song on the avam cd, so naturally i'm
curious as to what dcd albums are the best. can anyone inform me of their
opinions on the best/worst? oh, and is the dcd album from rykodisc a
compilation?
tony
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 17:20:32 -0800
You're likely to get 100 conflicting reports on this one. I'd say for the
most part, you can't go wrong, so you can read the 100 posts you get and
not worry about the fact that everyone has a different favorite.
That said, I'd say to start with: Aion or the Serpent's Egg. Those are
my favorites, and how I got started (the two are probably related).
The latest album is live and is where the avam track comes from. It's
called "Toward the Within". The one thing that makes this one different
than other DCD stuff is that there are some songs by Brendan Perry (one
of the two principals in the group) which are from his upcoming solo
album. Although I think they're great songs, they aren't really in the
typical DCD vein, and therefore seem somewhat out of place on this album.
Other ones you could start with are With the Realm of a Dying Sun or
Into the Labyrinth (the latest studio album).
I would avoid starting with "Dead Can Dance" and "Spleen and Ideal" --
although they're still great albums, they're harder to get started with,
and are least like what the group's like today.
Oh, and the Ryko disc you mention is a collection of songs from all the
albums from "Spleen and Ideal" to "Aion". I think it's actually a great
collection of music, so you might want to start there. The two
disadvantages of it are that (1) it doesn't have as much consistency as
most of the other albums by its nature as a compilation, and (2) if you
fall in love with them and get all the others, this one will be mostly
useless (except for the last two tracks which are new).
Whew! Recap: (chronologically)
Dead Can Dance: most different from what they are today. More art-rock goth
than anything
Spleen and Ideal: this is the first album I heard quite some time ago, and
I couldn't get into it. It was only more recently that I
rediscovered them, and then came back and liked this album more.
Within the Realm of a Dying Sun: a fine place to start
the Serpent's Egg: My first choice of where to start
A Passage In Time: the Ryko compilation. Other than the above two caveats
an excellent place to start
Into the Labyrinth: a fine place to start
Toward the Within: a fine place to start, with the above caveats.
Really, though, you can't go wrong...
-Brad
On Fri, 9 Dec 1994, Anthony E. Nelson wrote:
> hey there. i really liked the dcd song on the avam cd, so naturally i'm
> curious as to what dcd albums are the best. can anyone inform me of their
> opinions on the best/worst? oh, and is the dcd album from rykodisc a
> compilation?
> tony
>
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 20:53:00 0000
ignored.
I picked up a few DCD boots last weekend. One is called 'Dark Christ-mas'
and the other is called 'Live USA 1993'. Does anyone have the correct
track listings for these? I'm pretty sure about half of each have
made up song titles. The sound quality is very good on both... very happy
with them.
Aaron
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 22:49:05 -0500
I don't know anything about tone, but it sounds intriguing...what label are
they on?
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