Subject: Re: Misc bands and other things.
Subject: local music stores
Subject: Re: V23 Fonts?
Subject: Re: Projekt goes UPC!
Subject: Re: v23 / Vaughan Oliver Fonts needed
Subject: Re: 300.500
Subject: Re: Lush Lush Lush
Subject: Re: 800CDLOSER
Subject: Re: Lush Lush Lush
Subject: Re: LUSH LUSH LUSH
Subject: Re: Lush Lush Lush
Subject: Re: Lush Lush Lush
Subject: Small stores vs Big Stores
Subject: Re: FSOL's email address?
Subject: Re: LUSH LUSH LUSH
Subject: Re: Taang/Spacemen 3
Subject: Independent music stores
Subject: Re: Small stores vs Big Stores
Subject: Re: Misc bands and other things.
Subject: Re: 300.500
Subject: Best Buy/Blockbuster and friends
Subject: Re: AVAM cd Found
Subject: New Cindytalk track on compilation
Subject: Reply to Best Buy/Blockbuster and friends
Subject: Re: 300.500
Subject: Cindytalk
Subject: Re: LUSH LUSH LUSH
Subject: Lonely Is...
Subject: Lush singles (Was RE: Lush Lush Lush)
Subject: Re: Cindytalk
Subject: Re: LUSH LUSH LUSH
Subject: Re: AVAM cd Found
Subject: Re: Small stores vs Big Stores
Subject: Re: Lush interactive
Subject: Re: Independent music stores
Subject: Re: Lush interactive
Subject: SUGGESTIONS WANTED
Subject: Re: LUSH LUSH LUSH
Subject: Can anyone help me here?
Subject: A question about Projekt
Subject: LUCH in TOKYO
Subject: suddenly tammy!, slowdive, other stuff
Subject: Where are they?
Subject: Re: Lush interactive
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 00:39:53 -0400
30 Nov 1994 19:15:13 -0400"
<[email protected]>
>Greetings,
>
>I was just wondering if anyone could help me out. I was looking for any album
>review(s) for the following band:
> Southern Death CUlt
>I have heard one or two songs by these old bands but I'm afraid to actually
>spend the money since these are import titles and if the disc(s) really suck
>then...well you know the rest. Any help would be appriciated!!
>
>Cheers,
>aLFRED dOUGLAS
you are aware that this is the band that became "death cult" and then the cult
if not i have all three albums and canm listen if u want and review them if u
want
they went thru a reduction in name and
refinemment in sound
to a p[ositive degree in me thoughts
gebeaux
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 23:05:39 -0800
> So please, if you truly care about thislisty bands and others who are not
> as widely known, please support local music stores when you can.
Well said....the survival of indie bands is heavily tied to the survival of
the small "mom and pop" type of record store.
I work at a corporately owned record store, at which I get everything at cost.
(those CDs you pay $16.99 for? We buy them for around $10.75). I don't get
paid very much at my job-- the discount is probably the best part of working
there.
Nevertheless, I make it a point to buy from the "small guys" on a regular
basis, though this generally entails paying a bit more for the goods. I can't
forget that I won't be working at this place (and thus enjoying this type of
discount) forever....my point is, for the average music buyer, the small
stores generally offer better prices, and almost _always_ stock better
inventory, and have employees who might actually know something about the
type of music you love.
The fact is, Best Buys and places like it can't survive long-- they are
gambling on you taking home a microwave or VCR along with those cheaply-priced
CDs. So far, they are several million dollars in the whole....
In the meantime, don't let your local independent shop be killed by the likes
of Best Buy.....
-julian-
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 02:00:00 LCL
> I remember a posting a few days ago about V23 fonts? If anybody
>has any info on purchasing or downloading these, PLEASE contact me!
I received the following information concerning this font when I
requested info on it (from David(UK) and Paul(AOL)). You cannot
download it anywhere and have to purchase it. It is rather expensive
($69), but considering the work that goes into creating them maybe
not. The type face is called F Currency and is part of a series
called 'Fuse'. The one you're interested in is Fuse 9 and contains
five other fonts (thinking about it $69 is not too expensive for all
this). The font is available from the Fontshop in the UK. Contact
purchase you also get a catalog. There is a WWW page for Fuse at:
poster that came with the issue at:
On a lighter note. Something as bad as the 'cookie recipe' has
reared its head again. It has to do with a true story about little
bars of soap and a hotel. I last received this on the net in '92 and
received it twice this month. Funny first time around, but it has
now taken its place next to 'cookie recipes' in the kill file.
N
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 03:37:24 -0500
UPC codes are necessary to increase distribution of the item. Many stores
will not carry items lacking this ugly little barcode. This is an unfortunate
fact of life in the US. Many indie stores could give two shits about them,
but to get them EVERYWHERE you need the upc.
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 03:38:19 -0500
To order Fuse #x (I can't recall the number) dial the Font_Shop at
180036FONTS. I believe the Fuse version that had the infamous v23 font was
called New Religions, or perhaps Religions. It's use appears to be dubious;
from what I remember, they looked more like drawings than his traditional
lettering. And I don't believe he's ever used them commercially.
Downloading pirated fonts is bad; I'd have to concur with the other fellow
about the amount of work that goes into creating these; besides working with
Fontographer can be a real bitch. Vaughan's fonts did not really require as
much work; he simply designed the lettering, and allowed someone else to do
all the boring cleanup that is necessary. (This was according to his lecture
at avam)
J O N
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 03:50:21 -0500
94 04:30:39 pm
> Do y'all know if Taang ever got around to releasing the old Spacemen3
> stuff?
I saw an ad in some magazine a while back, which I doubt they would have
splurged on if release was still tentative.
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 03:55:12 -0500
94 07:22:51 pm
> NO MARKETING PUSH?! There were Ads (many half-page) ones everywhere &
> "Hypocrite" got tons of airplay at the local (Chicago) cheesy (10 song
> playlist) alt. station for several weeks. Plus there was lots of press:
> CMJ, AP, Raygun,etc.
Well, they put a decent push behind it, but it didn't really take off
sales-wise, I guess. And if 'Lovelife' was released as a second radio single,
it certainly didn't get much airplay. I'd have to agree that it's sad it got
dismissed as yet-another-shoegazer-band-from-a-few-years-ago's attempt at a
followup since it's a much better album than the previous two.
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 01:07:06 -0800
On Thu, 1 Dec 1994 [email protected] wrote:
> >1-800-CD-LOSER are also on my nerves today. I ordered this album three weeks
> ago along with AVAM, and am told they'll get it sometimes in the coming week.
> Instead, they get it two mondays hence, tell me they'll send it out the next
> day, and instead they mail it on Friday. Pathetic.
> >>Hey fuckhead, these guys are friends of mine, and I felt like letting you
> have it for airing your personal gripes about a good business in a public
> forum. You seem to have more than ample time to spread your opinions on
> these lists, and I ignore most of them. I happened to read this one, and
> thought I'd personally let you know that you're quite pathetic as well.
Who's the one that needed to take this to private e-mail?
It appears that you don't entirely disagree with what I said and just
think I'm a mean bastard for saying it, so I'll let your tone speak for
your character.
As for the appropriateness of posting this kind of information to a
listserv, these places benefit from public discussion so they can take
the heat therefrom, as well. You didn't seem to object when I complained
about ear-rational. If we're all going to whine and bitch whenever
someone criticises someone else's friend, then no one is ever going to
give an honest opinion on Love Spiral's Downwards or Strange Boutique or
The Moon Seven Times or The Cranes or anyone else with a net account, and
the discussion degenerates to a series of press releases and favorites
polls, all because no one wants to hurt anyone's feelings. Well to hell
with your feelings if they're going to destroy my favorite mailing list.
Anyway, don't go sending private flames to people when you don't know if
they'll honor an unannounced, uninvited change of venue. I make such
messages public when I think they may be amusing to the public, and so I
am doing this now. Kind of makes you wish you'd at least proofread your
work, eh?
einexile, not a fuckhead but working on it
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 01:14:09 -0800
> Well, they put a decent push behind it, but it didn't really take off
> sales-wise, I guess. And if 'Lovelife' was released as a second radio single,
> it certainly didn't get much airplay. I'd have to agree that it's sad it got
> dismissed as yet-another-shoegazer-band-from-a-few-years-ago's attempt at a
> followup since it's a much better album than the previous two.
i think people just don't care. it was being pushed in a market that's
looking past the guitar wash bands of the shoegazer set and warming
up to things such as nin & hole & :gag: veruca salt. indie and anger
and venom spewing and brattiness and that sort of brash style. lush
are just too sugary sweet nice. yeah..*we* know better, but the
public that they were being pushed on don't. they just don't care.
miki's not courtney love..and the masses want courtney love...
*k*
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 16:36:39 -0800
> >> 4 No singles in the US from SPlit
> >>
> > The rest of my message said that Hypocrite was MOST definitely a US
> > single, and I am pretty sure that Lovelife was a US single.
>
> Were they ever released as CD-singles? Not to my knowledge. To me, it's
> not the same. I don't listen to the radio here, because it's overrun w/
> pathetic Stone-Temple-Pearl-Jam bastards.
Well, they were shipped to radio as cd singles, and if there is a college
campus within your area, you could probably find them used, as
"so-called" cd singles. Now, were they cd singles that you could find at
The Wherehouse like, say, Salt-N-Pepa's "Shoop" or Cyndi Lauper's "She Bop"?
No. But neither is DCD's "American Dreaming" or Lisa Germano's "Stars",
nor was Pale Saints "Angel (Will You Be My)", but they were all singles.
Hypocrite even had airplay on MTV, and MTV RARELY picks a track from an
album they like and forces the band to make a video for it so that MTV
can play the "album track". Maybe that's why Hypocrite was on AVAM,
though. Maybe Miki, Emma and the boys are Virgos all, and maybe they
were mad because MTV FORCED them to make the video.... !!!
.... maybe not.
=-]
Ivo
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 01:32:32 -0800
On Thu, 1 Dec 1994, Susan Curran wrote:
> > NO MARKETING PUSH?! There were Ads (many half-page) ones everywhere &
> > "Hypocrite" got tons of airplay at the local (Chicago) cheesy (10 song
> > playlist) alt. station for several weeks. Plus there was lots of press:
> > CMJ, AP, Raygun,etc.
> Well, they put a decent push behind it, but it didn't really take off
> sales-wise, I guess. And if 'Lovelife' was released as a second radio single,
> it certainly didn't get much airplay. I'd have to agree that it's sad it got
> dismissed as yet-another-shoegazer-band-from-a-few-years-ago's attempt at a
> followup since it's a much better album than the previous two.
I think you're both kind of missing the point, maybe because you are
partial to these songs but while I love the entire album, the two
tracks in question were bad choices. They back up an already existing
negative view of the band (as shoegazey, etc) and are generally a bit
obnoxious. At least I think they probably annoyed more people than would
let's say Undertow and When I Die. It may also be that Lush have reached
their limit and there is simply no one left to win over. I think it's the
choice of singles, though. A lot of bands seem to toil over which tracks
will go over best with the public and radio people etc, and to hell with
just putting out the best song on the album. Pretty lame, imo.
einexile
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 03:49:41 -0500
1 Dec 1994 01:32:32 -0800
> At least I think they probably annoyed more people than
> would let's say Undertow and When I Die
yes i agree if they had pushed these two songs (the best on the cd imnsho),
granted it prob would have been a harder sell but i think when i die could have
made it commercially, if not both. i think lush are simply victims of the fact
that in the us now people have just begun to get over the "grunge movement" and
are slowly finding new tastes. personally i think the latest focus in my eyes
on a lot more bands with women's vocals will help them out, too.
a random post from a speedy all-nighter-pro (just about the *only* thing you
learn at boarding school),
-joanna-
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 10:29:00 GMT
Jennifer stated that in the US big stores can sell CD's at less than
what little stores can buy them. This may also be the case in the Uk,
but the prices dont reflect that situ. The little indie stores that I
buy from sell CD's for about ?11. The majors (HMV,Virgin etc) seem to
be around the ?12.99 mark..although some prices have gone down
following the continual price fixing allegations.
Sure the big stores have bigger premises, have to hold more stock etc
so I guess this is part of their justification for higher prices. I
must say that smaller stores provide better service, have more
knowledge of thislisty music, and are prepared to help and inquire on
things for you. PLUS the little stores usually have a 2nd hand
section where Ive picked up a few things in the past..including a few
4AD promos and press packs..seems like the reps sell the promos as 2nd
hand CD's.
A few requests for info :
Has Humroot by Shelleyann Orphan been deleted ..whats the chances of
picking one up ??
How representative is 'Anatomy of a poet' with regards to other In the
Nursery releases ?? Ive been spinning this one more regularly
recently and it is a very good release..althought the few tracks with
poetry being recited over music took a bit of getting used to..I mean
I dont want anyone to think Im getting culture, do I ??. It was Ok to
have Linton Kwesi Johnson reading his poetry over music cos he 'in'
for a while, and who can argue with his 'England is a bitch' track ??
Also the Glee Club 'Mine' has grown on me, and both of these have been
able to keep 'Heavenly Voices' off all of this week !!..a major
achievement believe me, the therapy is working !!
What other Glee Club releases should I be trying to get my sweaty
hands on ??
I seem to get the impression that DCD are selling a few copies of TTW
in the States - are they starting to make it big over there ??
Is it time to start nominations for best album and single of 94 ??
Cheers
Paul
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 02:00:00 LCL
Theo wrote :
>Piss off and go soak your head in some Amyl Nitrate.It sounds to me
>like you could use a small rush.
>?HOTE!
Now that would be a total waste of Amyl Nitrate
Your alter ego
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 12:28:49 +0100
On Wed, 30 Nov 1994, ivo wrote:
> > >> 4 No singles in the US from SPlit
> > >>
> > > The rest of my message said that Hypocrite was MOST definitely a US
> > > single, and I am pretty sure that Lovelife was a US single.
> >
> > Were they ever released as CD-singles? Not to my knowledge. To me, it's
> > not the same. I don't listen to the radio here, because it's overrun w/
> > pathetic Stone-Temple-Pearl-Jam bastards.
>
>
> Well, they were shipped to radio as cd singles, and if there is a college
> campus within your area, you could probably find them used, as
> "so-called" cd singles. Now, were they cd singles that you could find at
> The Wherehouse like, say, Salt-N-Pepa's "Shoop" or Cyndi Lauper's "She Bop"?
> No. But neither is DCD's "American Dreaming" or Lisa Germano's "Stars",
> nor was Pale Saints "Angel (Will You Be My)", but they were all singles.
> Hypocrite even had airplay on MTV, and MTV RARELY picks a track from an
> album they like and forces the band to make a video for it so that MTV
> can play the "album track". Maybe that's why Hypocrite was on AVAM,
> though. Maybe Miki, Emma and the boys are Virgos all, and maybe they
> were mad because MTV FORCED them to make the video.... !!!
>
>
> .... maybe not.
>
>
> =-]
>
> Ivo
>
Excuse me, but what the f**k are you talking about? MTV forcing Lush to
make a video?!?!?!?! Hypocrite was released as a single in Europe, and
that's why they made a video for it.
-Peter
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 04:05:03 PST
Curtis Taang has released the first Spacemen 3 reissue that he "supposedly"
has the rights to. It's _Playing With Fire_ with some different artwork and
the B-sides from the "Revolution" single. It was my understanding that Fire
had licensed all Spacemen 3 recordings to Bomp, SFTRI and Genius. Can some-
one clarify this issue? I wouldn't be surprised if Curtis nearly bankrupted
his label with all the ads in Spin, Rolling Stone, Alt. Press etc...
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 12:36:14 +0000
On Wed, 30 Nov 1994, Jennifer L. Lueckemeyer wrote:
> As for price, large industry stores can SELL cd's at a lower cost than most
> independent stores can BUY them! This is the honest truth. It is no wonder
> why smaller record stores are going out of business so rapidly, they are
> being destroyed by big industry. Yes, you may pay a little more in a
> smaller store, but you are getting better customer service and a wider
> selection of independent and lesser known music.
That might be the case in the US, but here in the UK, I always get new
CDs far cheaper at the local indie haven (being Avalance Records) than I
would at Virgin or His Bastards Price. I also get the pleasure of shopping
in a place with no Mariah Carey records whatsoever... (And they _do_ have
the AVAM CD there as well - they even _had_ 13yr Itch....a couple of days
before I went there to buy it. Sic transit gloria mundi...)
Cheers,
Jon
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 13:10:27 +0000
Paul Rankine
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 22:58:47 -0600
|Greetings,
|
|I was just wondering if anyone could help me out. I was looking for any album
|review(s) for the following bands:
|
| 1. Danse Society
| 2. Southern Death Cult
I assume you already know that #2 is the forerunner to the band that now
goes simpy by "the cult". reviews of latest offering in newest
Alternative Press.
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 22:54:54 -0600
|Do y'all know if Taang ever got around to releasing the old Spacemen3
| stuff? I never saw them, and a lot of things seem to indicate that
| Taang is all outta money (no swirlies for now).
No - but BOMP rerelease "Taking Drugs To Make Music To Take Drugs To"
(the father Yod release) with additional unreleased material. it's
sweetly crunchy.
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 09:02:36 -0500
Jennifer exclaimed:
> Go to most independently owned record stores and you find people who
> know what the newest release is by the Cocteau Twins, not because it
> is on the charts, but because they actually care about what they sell
> and keep up on the whole music scene and not just the big sellers.
Yeah? Well I gave up on my local "alternative" music store, Soundwaves, after
they didn't know anything about:
a. The Insides
b. Stina Nordenstam
c. DCD "Toward the Within" (video *or* CD)
d. AVAM <---what it was or what the CD was
(all fairly common items, I might add.)
I went to my friendly Blockbuster Music and found *ALL* of the above in one trip
after fruitless months of trying to get these items at Soundwaves. ....and I
bought a VCR and TV at Best Buy that I couldn't be happier with. :)
marvynHortman
TOP TEN NEW INTEL SLOGANS FOR THE PENTIUM
-----------------------------------------
9.9999973251 It's a FLAW, Dammit, not a Bug
8.9999163362 It's Close Enough, We Say So
7.9999414610 Nearly 300 Correct Opcodes
6.9999831538 You Don't Need to Know What's Inside
5.9999835137 Redefining the PC--and Mathematics As Well
4.9999999021 We Fixed It, Really
3.9998245917 Division Considered Harmful
2.9991523619 Why Do You Think They Call It *Floating* Point?
1.9999103517 We're Looking for a Few Good Flaws
0.9999999998 The Errata Inside
-----------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 09:31:38 MST
Lueckemeyer" at Nov 30, 94 6:12 pm
Jennifer L. wrote [some text omitted]:
> As an independent record store employee, nothing infuriates me more than to
> see people who claim to truly love music yet are willing to destroy the
> very music stores that really support lesser known and more independent
> groups by purchasing cd's at BEST BUY!!!!
I think in this specific instance there is an important difference
from your example in that I already knew exactly what I was looking for
before I even drove to Best Buy. That is, I didn't need confirmation from
a knowledgeable, helpful, friendly music aficionado that this was a good
CD to purchase or that I would enjoy it. The only thing left was price
and availability. Best Buy had AVAM at a price which I knew was $4 - $5
less than the independents in my area, if I could even find it elsewhere.
I have no problem shopping at independent stores in Denver and do so
quite often. My main reason is that the independents often carry small
bands on small labels which I can't find at Best Buy (unless I'm very lucky).
However, if I happen to find a CD at Best Buy I will purchase it and save
a few dollars so I can have $ to spend for the harder to find CDs at
JB&H or Wax Trax, my two favorite independent CD dealers. Price is
important to me because I purchase 8 to 10 CDs per week.
In our area Best Buy now has direct competition from Media Play which is
the SuperStore division of Musicland. They actually beat Best Buy's prices
although lately their selection seems to be shrinking. I think they may
have purchased some "alternative" CDs when they first opened but haven't
re-ordered. Therefore, they are beginning to look like their older,
mall-oriented, corporate big brother, MusicLand. Still, I have found some
pretty exclusive CDs at Media Play, just not that many and not recently.
BTW, the CD store called Wax Trax was founded and built by the same
guy who went on to start the Wax Trax record label. Other than that there is
no connection between the two.
--
Dave Gingerich
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 11:50:49 -0500
On top of Cindytalk having a new album (Wappinschaw, on Touched Recordings
distributed by World Serpent in the UK), they also have a new track on
Emigre`s Sampler #3, Dreaming Out Loud. I`m assuming this id the track called
The Salt Heals All My Wounds, which is an instrumental. Also on the CD are
Honey Barbara, The Grassy Knoll, Supercollider, Paul Rucker, and Ui.
To get this, you`ll probably need to order directly from Emigre, since they
aren`t usually picked up by most stores. Here`s details:
Regular CD $9.95
Deluxe CD $15.00 (w/24 page book and custom made box)
Cassette $4.95
S+H $3 in US, $4 in Canada, $8 in Europe, $10 in Asia.
Order by faxing Emigre 916-451-4351, or
Mail to Emigre, Inc., 4475 "D" Street, Sacramento, CA 95819, USA
They say to expect 4-6 weeks for delivery. They take credit cards, money
orders, and checks (but they wait till the check clears).
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 10:59:39 -0600
01 Dec 94 09:02:36 EST" <[email protected]>
marvynHortman posted->
TOP TEN NEW INTEL SLOGANS FOR THE PENTIUM
-----------------------------------------
9.9999973251 It's a FLAW, Dammit, not a Bug
8.9999163362 It's Close Enough, We Say So
7.9999414610 Nearly 300 Correct Opcodes
6.9999831538 You Don't Need to Know What's Inside
5.9999835137 Redefining the PC--and Mathematics As Well
4.9999999021 We Fixed It, Really
3.9998245917 Division Considered Harmful
2.9991523619 Why Do You Think They Call It *Floating* Point?
1.9999103517 We're Looking for a Few Good Flaws
0.9999999998 The Errata Inside
-----------------------------------------
This is a scream! It made my week. ;)
___________________________________________________________________
Kent J. Vanderwaal
[email protected]
"gifted child, omouidashite yo"
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 09:10:27 -0800
>i got the promo "lovelife e.p." by
>lush for 2 bucks and on in there's "300 500" does anyone know what that
>is?
RPMs for the CD -- it's ~500 at the beginning/inside and ~300 at the
ending/outside. Constant Linear Velocity, ya know. If you have a discMan you
can watch the spinning slow down as you skip to later tracks. Gee whillikers,
Mister Science!
And please let's not get into another long discussion about CD RPMs -- how
many other people here remember the last time we beat this into the ground
(in '92?) Maybe I should add it to the FAQ.
[On now: Pitchblende "Au Jus"]
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 17:25:53 GMT
digest processor on Thu, 1 Dec 1994 00:01:39 -0500)
Seeing Lord Purge's quick mention of a new Cindytalk album reminded me
that I've been meaning to check out their back catalogue for some time
but have never got around to it.
The only thing I have is a rather lovely ep that plays at different speeds
on different sides, called "Secrets and Falling", I believe. I know that
they released two identically named albums simultaneously some years back,
causing much confusion. I know they have a new album out now. I don't know
anything else. If anyone has opinions about what their best work is, (and
preferably, why) then I'd love to hear them.
Anthony.
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 09:54:02 -0800
> >
> Excuse me, but what the f**k are you talking about? MTV forcing Lush to
> make a video?!?!?!?! Hypocrite was released as a single in Europe, and
> that's why they made a video for it.
>
> -Peter
>
Peter, take some riddlin, that was a joke.... of COURSE I know they chose
to make the video.... damn, gotta work on that humor some more, I s'pose...
Ivo
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 17:16:25 GMT
HI!
I'm currently working on a new fanzine, called "Lonely is...",devoted
entirely to bands who were or are on 4AD and guernica. The first edition
is coming out in January, to coincide with the new Muses album. So there
is not much time left if you would like to contribute. If you would like
to, I'll take anything except stuff about the Cocteau twins as I have
enough about them to sink a ship.
So if you feel the urge to scribble down a quick something - a poem, a
review, anything get in touch either by e-mail or post at the adresses
below. i have had a lot of response from adverts in British music press
from as far away as Bulgaria, but i would love some American readers and
writers. I look forward to hearing from lots of you!
Fraz.
[email protected]
or
Fraser Thomson,
The Manse,
Burnside,
Scone,
PH2 6LP,
SCOTLAND
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 11:26:16 -0800
[BTW, I have no idea why my mailer inserts
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 10:56:26 -0800
Secrets and Falling is quite tasty, although the CD is unfortunately
only between 300-500 rpm, and is quite constant in regards to to sound.
I would have to say, without hesitation, In this World is out of this
world. A real treat.
Elizabeth, is there room in the rosary for three?
[email protected]
aka Ernie
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 15:39:00 EDT
ignored.
Why does Ivo keep comparing Lush to Pearl Jam, Rap, and .. even Cindy
Lauper??? ha ha ....
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 14:26:01 -0800
hey everyone,
i know what you mean, jennifer. i can't find all these imports
at blockbuster music or anything like that. they won't sell underground
lovers, or promos, or any rarities that i try to look for. one store in
pasadena, california called "poo bah record shop" is my favorite. it
looks like a little house but they have a mansion full of merchandise
from vinyls to hard-to-find stuff. i got most of my lush cds, and cocteau
twins there. if you guys want to call them, their number is (818)
449-3359. it's a great record shop.
---pete
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 18:12:11 -0600
smaller stores that you will hear the new Red House Painters or the new Air
Miami, do you honestly think that Best Buy would ever play these to try to
promote them?
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 14:34:51 -0800
On Thu, 1 Dec 1994, Paul Rankine wrote:
> A few requests for info :
>
> Has Humroot by Shelleyann Orphan been deleted ..whats the chances of
> picking one up ??
i see it everywhere in california, brand new and used. i got my copy for
$3.99 at rockaway records in glendale, california. this place looks like
a supermarket. "muddied-up" is one of my favorite tracks.
>
>
> Also the Glee Club 'Mine' has grown on me, and both of these have been
> able to keep 'Heavenly Voices' off all of this week !!..a major
> achievement believe me, the therapy is working !!
> What other Glee Club releases should I be trying to get my sweaty
> hands on ??
i don't know what other things the glee club has released but i must
agree with you...'mine' is a great cd. i love the song, "need"
>
> I seem to get the impression that DCD are selling a few copies of TTW
> in the States - are they starting to make it big over there ??
dcd are getting more attention than i have ever realised. they are
selling ttw everywhere, even at the school cd shop.
---pete
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 17:38:51 -0500
i was wondering if infrequently lush is available in e-mail form?
dScott
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 14:37:00 -0800
> the AVAM CD there as well - they even _had_ 13yr Itch....a couple of days
>
hey everyone,
what is on the "13 year itch cd"? can anyone list me the
discography? is the video still available in the uk?
thanks,
pete
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 18:33:58 -0500
On Dec. 1, Donzail Harvey wrote:
>i was wondering if infrequently lush is available in e-mail >form?
>dScott
No, unfortunately the 'zine is only available via snail mail. If anyone wants
a copy, just Email me with your postal address and I'll get a copy sent out
to you just as soon as we get them printed up. (about a day or two from now)
We are taking contributions to the 'zine, so if you have a story or
experience with the band (Lush), send it to us and we'll print it up. :)
Ned
Publisher, "Infrequenlty Lush"
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 18:28:34 -0400
Some people think this band called National Razor from Bethlehem, PA is
exceptionally depressing. I would have to agree. They have some records out
on a label from NEW HAMPSHIRE (which seems odd). Maybe request a song from a
college radio DJ, it was serviced to radio last year.
oh, the label is called "Scream Records"
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 16:37:15 -0800
On Thu, 1 Dec 1994, STARLITE BROCK EXT 4807 wrote:
> Why does Ivo keep comparing Lush to Pearl Jam, Rap, and .. even Cindy
> Lauper??? ha ha ....
>
Hehe...I don't know! Actually, I didn't make the comparison to Pearl
Jam, but that's nitpicking. I think what I'm trying to show is that
unlike "mainstream" music, non-"mainstream" artists like Lush, Dead Can
Dance and Pale Saints are not mass-marketed the same way as "artists" like
Pearl Jam, Salt -N- Pepa, and Cyndi Lauper, therefore there is no way to
analyze the success of a non-"mainstream" band like Lush using
"mainstream" terms such as single sales.
*shrug*
Maybe it's just that old Top 40-head in me resurfacing .....
Ivo
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 20:03:51 -0500
I'm sure plenty of you fellow listies are incorrigible completists - am I
wrong?
So you know how maddening it is to not be able to find a missing piece of an
otherwise complete discography...and you would be willing to offer assistance
in finding:
>M1 ALTERNATIVE - all three of their CDs (Aviary, The Little Threshing Floor,
and ????) are impossible to find. Anyone have any information about why or
where they are?
>CHAMELEONS - script of the bridge, what does anything mean, northern
songs(tony fletcher ep+), fan and the bellows.
>BOO RADLEYS - boo! forever(ep)
>CHAPTERHOUSE - sunburst, falling down, and mesmerize eps.
(why are these so difficult to obtain? They shouldn't be...)
>EoST - free D soundtrack
>THE MILLIONS (ex: for against) - their two LPs (??? & ???)
>MOOSE - sonny of sam (the domestic comp. - is that the name?)
>TH' FAITH HEALERS - 'L
>SWALLOW - hush
and, most especially,
>SLOWDIVE - slowdive, morningrise, holding our breaths eps or
blue day comp.
I'm getting pretty frustrated here, and would appreciate any help you can
offer. If you know stores, distributors, people, etc. who have and will sell
any of the above CDs, I will have the money in the mail for you ASAP.
...always looking for intelligent side-conversations about anything at all.
Reach me c/o the list - or as [email protected]. I love writing by mail and
creating compilation tapes for the curious.
Anyone know if Spoonfed Hybrid is going to be more than a one-off? And when's
the next HNIA due? - I hope they got that (d)HNIA crap out of their systems.
If anyone is wondering about that Isomorphic Records sampler, there's some
really great stuff on it. Randy Greif's "Rusted Sorrow of the Old Crane" is
very thislisty. You have to like noise to enjoy most of the remaining tracks,
though. And if you DO like noise, check out Brice-Glace's "when in
vanitas..." (on Touch and Go) - it's a unique amalgamation of ambient, rock,
atmospherics, and industrial sounds. Amazing!
Rosewater Elizabeth are also worth your money - sort of a DCD/CT hybrid with
many original ideas thrown in. They're on 24Hr Service Station in Florida -
e-mail me for the address if interested. Of course, judging from the past,
this might spark another "sounds like" argument. But they are good - with a
19yr old female vocalist who rivals Liz, and (dare I say) Linda.
In response to the BestBuys debate, I have a compromise that works for me.
The indie/import stuff I special order en mass($100-$200 per visit) from my
favorite indie store (Zelco Music in New Haven, FYI). The rare domestic major
label release worth picking up I'll buy anywhere that it's cheapest (under
$12)- or wait and get from Columbia House for $3.99. What I can't special
order from Zelco's I order from a distributor like Parasol (great selection)
or Smash(ditto) Records...and I still can't find any of the above. (sigh...)
Like I said, it works for me. Everyone gets what they deserve - esp the major
labels (next to nothing - HA! =D)
Enough for now. Listen to the new Laika and all the Pram and Stereolab you
can find. G'night
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 21:59:19 -0500
Well, after my (largely internal) dissing of all stuff that is wannabe 4AD,
I found myself in a used record shop with the Projekt cd by SOUL WHIRLING
SOMEWHERE in my hands. I thought to myself, "What the hell...I'll take it
over to the listening station and give it a try." Well, I actually liked it
(the name is still 7th form DCD though). Very peaceful.
So, I was wondering if any of you Projektphiles could recommend some other
stuff on the label I might like. What I like about this is the orchestral
synths and the accoustic guitars, plus a male singer (no gender bias
intended -- I just prefer male voices). A local shop has the 2 cd BLACK
TAPE FOR A BLUE GIRL covers thingie. Would that be a good way to check out
the label?. Any help you can offer would be appreciated. You can either
write to me direct, or send it through the list, depending on whether you
think anyone else would care to hear.
And I'm sorry to any of you out there who are tired of all the Projekt stuff
on the "4AD-list" and thought that strain had died a slow death....
-- Jeff
Jeffrey T. Gayton
[email protected]
(608) 259-9084
212 West Gilman #111
Madison, WI 53703
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 03:12:26 GMT
LUSH is touring in Japan from the end of November. They played in Osaka and
Nagoya, and in Tokyo is their last show in Japan. The venue was Liquid Room
at Shinjuku. Matsuino Factory appeared and played some stuffs. I heard that
Miki was on the floor and listening to them as is often the case. MF was ok
but LUSH blew them away after a long interval. Their show was excellent much
more than I had expected.
I met Mitsuwo Tate, tour guitarist of COCTEAU TWINS, after the show.
For LUSH collectors, Columbia Japan released mini album titled _Cookie_ on the
day. Most tracks are from singles "Desire Lines" and "Hypocrite". But the cover
art is nice. (by v23)
masaya
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Masaya Toyokawa
Plankton Division, Ocean Research Institute, University of Tokyo,
1-15-1 Minamidai, Nakano, Tokyo, 164 Japan.
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 22:12:50 -0500
hi there...just got back on the list after a long hiatus and i've got
some questions...what are suddenly tammy! and slowdive up to? i just got
a promo comp on warner bros. with a bunch of rarities on it...stuff
that's thislisty:
throwing muses 'teller'(demo)
lush 'the childcatcher'
suddenly, tammy! 'beach song'
saint etienne 'chock stock'(live in sheffield)
red house painters 'summer dress'
i'm not exactly sure if i've been subscribed yet (i think i am) so if you
have any definite news could you reply to me directly (at least until i
confirm that i'm actually getting posts from the list)
thanks..mikebee
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