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Subject: Re: Breeders
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 00:36:34 -0500
From: Michael garrett ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Lush interactive
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 23:55:35 -0600
From: Kagin Lee (KAGIN%[email protected])
Subject: Lotus Eaters? Wavelength? (Colourbox?)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 01:54:13 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Lush interactive
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 23:58:51 -0700
From: "sadly however, not a trace of the bat was found" (NMARSHALL%
Subject: Re: Lush interactive
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 01:04:41 -0800
From: Fun Gus ([email protected])
Subject: new cindytalk
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:03:10 +0000
From: Lord Purge ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Thw Wolfgang Press: Funky Little Demons
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 08:14:03 CST
From: Steven W Hill ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Lush Interactive
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 09:51:41 -0500
From: Marvyn Hortman ([email protected])
Subject: LYCIA
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:55:58 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS ([email protected])
Subject: Hover album is coming!
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 09:53:49 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Projekt goes UPC!
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 10:29:45 -0800
From: vilexile ([email protected])
Subject: Re: LUSH LUSH LUSH
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 10:42:40 -0800
From: ivo ([email protected])
Subject: Cath Carroll 'n' such...
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 10:47:43 -0800
From: ivo ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Lush interactive
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:44:12 -0800
From: "Peter C. Lee" ([email protected])
Subject: 300.500
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:49:31 -0800
From: "Peter C. Lee" ([email protected])
Subject: V23 Fonts?
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:58:02 -0800
From: scarab or serephim ([email protected])
Subject: Re: 300.500
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 14:19:39 -0600
From: Brian M Miller ([email protected])
Subject: Re: LUSH LUSH LUSH
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 15:28:42 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM ([email protected])
Subject: Re: 4ad giveaways...
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 15:11:21 EST
From: "John M. Renfroe 823-5045" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: 300.500
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 12:31:08 -0800
From: Kelli-Jeanne ([email protected])
Subject: Re: LUSH LUSH LUSH
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 16:16:00 0000
From: STARLITE BROCK EXT 4807 ([email protected])
Subject: Re: 300.500
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 16:30:39 -0600
From: Kagin Lee (KAGIN%[email protected])
Subject: 300-500
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 14:39:54 -0800
From: Brant Nelson ([email protected])
Subject: Re: AVAM cd Found
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 18:12:11 -0600
From: "Jennifer L. Lueckemeyer" ([email protected])
Subject: Misc bands and other things.
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 19:15:13 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Lush Interactive
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 19:43:03 -0500
From: Ned Anderson ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Lush Lush Lush
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 19:22:51 -0600
From: Sanz ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Projekt goes UPC!
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 19:39:14 -0600
From: Martin Wagner ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Projekt goes UPC!
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 18:17:01 -0800
From: vilexile ([email protected])
Subject: Re: 300.500
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 16:29:43 -0800
From: ivo ([email protected])

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 00:36:34 -0500
From: Michael garrett ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Breeders


you want breeders gossip?  how bout this:  when's the wedding date for Kim
and Spin Magazine's own roving reporter, Jim Greer?  Anybody got the scoop?


Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 23:55:35 -0600
From: Kagin Lee (KAGIN%[email protected])
Subject: Re: Lush interactive


On Tue, 29 Nov 1994, Ned Anderson wrote:

> The only place I've seen the Lush Interactive thingee was in the Warner
> forum, on America Online. I also asked Warner if it was available via the
> regular mail, and they said no. :(

If'n ya really want this thingy you could persuade me to part with mine,
 but it's not really that exciting...

kagin
[email protected]


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 01:54:13 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: Lotus Eaters? Wavelength? (Colourbox?)


Not 4AD at all, but very twee and so should interest some people around
here.  I'm a big fan of THE LOTUS EATERS.  All I have is a 17th generation
tape of their album "No Sense Of Sin" and a few 12" singles.  I thought to
myself, "Well, I should check out CD Europe to see if the album is on disc."
 Well, it wasn't, but there was a digital cassette of "The First Picture of
You" credited to THE LOTUS EATERS/WAVELENGHT.  Who the hell are WAVELENGTH?
Are they the descendants of THE LOTUS EATERS?  Can anyone help me here? Thanks.

Oh, and for some 4AD content, does anyone know where that "Let's listen to
some of that COLOURBOX stuff" sample is from on "Manic II" and "Fast Dump"?
I really dig it.  Almost as cool as, "And what what the cloud of dust caused
by...COLOURBOX...COLOUR, COLOUR, COLOUR, COLOUR, COLOUR, COLOUR, COLOUR,
COLOURBOX!!!"  Sorry, but I've been od'ing on Th' Box again.

-- Jeff

Jeffrey T. Gayton
[email protected]
(608) 259-9084
212 West Gilman  #111
Madison, WI  53703


Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 23:58:51 -0700
From: "sadly however, not a trace of the bat was found" (NMARSHALL% [email protected]>
Subject: Re: Lush interactive


        Hmm, I was waiting for someone else to pick this up but the Lush
Interactive thing is available by ftp at jhuvm.hcf.jhu.edu

user 4ad-pics
(use any password)
type binary
get lush-sit.hqx

and then you have it. Thanks goes to Lars antidote milk, I believe, for putting
it and those scans there.
(If it's not obvious, hqx is a Mac only file)

Purgatory on Thursday night? I can't ever get out to Hollywood on a Thursday..
-%n


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 01:04:41 -0800
From: Fun Gus ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Lush interactive


On Tue, 29 Nov 1994, sadly however, not a trace of the bat was found wrote:
> get lush-sit.hqx
>
> (If it's not obvious, hqx is a Mac only file)

It's not obvious, because it's not true.  ".sit" is a Mac-based
compression format though, and the software itself is only for the Mac
(created with MacroMind Director).  I wouldn't waste the time downloading
it, it's not very interesting really.

spw


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:03:10 +0000
From: Lord Purge ([email protected])
Subject: new cindytalk


Just got the new cindytalk yesterday from a local record store so
keep your eyes peeled...

Track listing:
the first time ever..., a song of changes, empty hand, return to pain,
wheesht, snowkisses, secrets and falling, disappear,
traumlose nachte, and now in sunshine, prince of lies...

on 'touched recordings' (I believe a subdivision of World Serpent).
Haven't given it enough of a listen to say anything of value...

purge
--
\ \  and with arms stretched out...           \ \
 \ \      caught the sun in cold cupped hands  \ \


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 08:14:03 CST
From: Steven W Hill ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Thw Wolfgang Press: Funky Little Demons

              Nov 28, 94 5:18 pm

> The new Wolfgang Press album 'Funky Little Demons', planned release date
> september 26th 1994, but now delayed until januari 23th 1995, is the best
> since 'Standing Up Straight', which I think was the formerly best TWP-album.

I've listened to "Funky Little Demons" 30 times now, and I think it's
excellent. Not 5 out of 5, but certainly 4.5/5. It really seemed quicker
to get into than "Queer". The track "Going South" (to be the first
single) has been working very well for the dance floor.

If Warren Defever isn't 4ad-God, then Mick Allen is.

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 09:51:41 -0500
From: Marvyn Hortman ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Lush Interactive


> The only place I've seen the Lush Interactive thingee was in the Warner
> forum, on America Online. I also asked Warner if it was available via the
> regular mail, and they said no. :(

I've got it on my ftp site at:

sharedcast.hccs.cc.tx.us/Director/Cool_Programs/Lush.sea

or

198.64.7.253/Director/Cool_Programs/Lush.sea

if the DNS doesn't work.  It also used to be available on the AS/400 where
all the nifty PICT files are (jhvum?)...but it was a royal pain in the butt
to download to a Mac.

The "eye-candy" was mentioned by einexile and was called something like
mindwarp or acidWarp and works under DOS(?) or Windows.  Just do an archie
search and it will likely find it.   (Course on the Mac, there's always
"Flowfazer" which is not free but is ultimately cooler since it was developed
by Todd Rundgren.)

marvynHortman

PS Hey Jens..."Antler!" is cool, but the "secret about box" is better!
Anything else to keep an eye out for?  :) :) :) :) :) :) :)


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:55:58 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS ([email protected])
Subject: LYCIA


Greetings,

Just thought I would post some new LYCIA news for all the LYCIA fans on the
list. I just was talking with Mike Van Portfleet yesterday and he said that
in about a month and a half he is going to put out a LYCIA information booklet
that will contain lyrics, band info and photos. I asked if there is going to be
a LIVE video to accompany the disc since there were rumours of one, but he ended
ll speculation with a definate "NO, NO live video. Someone did tape one of the
shows but the auto-focus kept focusing on the smoke from the smoke machine and
the sound quality was really poor, it was nothing that I would ever want
released." So there you have it kids, straight out of the great man's mouth!!
If there is any updates, I'll keep you informed.

Alfred Douglas


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 09:53:49 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Hover album is coming!


DEW 003 - hover - 'almost everything'

This is moving along very quickly to become the third
release on Dewdrops. In fact we may even have it released
by Christmas as originally planned!

For those of you unfamiliar with hover, they're a great
indie band from Vermont who gave us the Breeders cover
on the 4AD tribute album Thurtene. _almost everything_
is a compilation of hover's two tapes 'thinsilverhorizon'
and 'my tea is gone' plus a track from a 7" (sadly their
tribute to the 60's TV show Secret Agent didn't make the
final track selection, which is why the album is simply
called 'everything'...) Reviews of these tapes have appeared
in past issues of Dewdrops, receiving raves from Pat and
the usual quiet admiration from Brant.

The CD is one hour long with a full color 4-page booklet
designed by the band, and it looks absolutely fabulous.
We're taking advance orders for the CD starting today,
and orders postmarked by Christmas will receive a $1.50 discount
off the normal price of $11.50 ($10.00 if you're not awake yet).
After Christmas, the price becomes $11.50. We can't yet guarantee
delivery by Christmas, but it's going to be close. Please send
checks payable to Dewdrops. No credit cards, cash at your own
risk, money orders OK. Orders received up until a week before Dec 25
will be processed immediately (CDs will be sent as soon as they're
ready) while ones received after that will be delayed until after Jan 9.

And don't forget our other two albums:
dew 001 - Thurtene - A 4AD Tribute
dew 002 - Orange

want to be considered for dew 004? send us a tape!

\>

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 10:29:45 -0800
From: vilexile ([email protected])
Subject: Projekt goes UPC!


That's right! Right here on the back of my new Love Spirals Downwards
disc. How very classy! Anyone have a copy that lacks this fine little
blemish? It's one of the ugliest and most annoying UPC's I've seen in
quite some time, too: translucent with big ol' fat-ass numbers. Yuck.
Anyway, Projekt were, to my knowledge, the last stand against these vile
and offensive little boxes with which everyone seems keen to deface
their album art, and now it seems they've been swallowed by the beast as
well. I hope Mr. Rosenthal is proud of what he's done. Eat poison, Sam.

The album is pretty good from what I've heard so far. Can't say for sure
at this point but will say I am really enjoying it. It sounds just like
Stereolab, though. :raspberries:

1-800-CD-LOSER are also on my nerves today. I ordered this album three
weeks ago along with AVAM, and am told they'll get it sometimes in the
coming week. Instead, they get it two mondays hence, tell me they'll send
it out the next day, and instead they mail it on Friday. Pathetic.


 a man, a plan, a rift in the space-time continuum: einexile!


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 10:42:40 -0800
From: ivo ([email protected])
Subject: Re: LUSH LUSH LUSH


> 4  No singles in the US from SPlit
>


The rest of my message said that Hypocrite was MOST definitely a US
single, and I am pretty sure that Lovelife was a US single.   They did
rather well, I would say, with Split, selling out BOTH shows that I went
to (or at least packing the place) and pulling many of those evasive goth
kids out of hiding into the harsh bright lights of LA's Glam Slam and
Philadelphia's Trocadero.

Ivo


"Full moon past the window sideways..."     -----------
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 10:47:43 -0800
From: ivo ([email protected])
Subject: Cath Carroll 'n' such...


I know this is a bit outdated, but I just received a copy of the Cath
Carroll ep (on sale at Tower in Torrance, CA for $5) and it is
PHENOMENAL!  I was amazed at how much better than most tracks on Perfect
Teeth these tracks were.... Goodbye is just amazing, and Hydro..... WOW!

*bUrP*..'scuse me


Ivo

"Full moon past the window sideways..."     -----------
                                            | *  | * O|
[email protected]                         |---------|
                                            |   *|    |
                                           ---m-/\/\-m--
                                               (    )


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:44:12 -0800
From: "Peter C. Lee" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Lush interactive


hey,
        first, i'm kinda new to this e-mail thing so i don't really know
what an interactive is.  can anyone tell me what this lush interactive
is.  everyone is saying how to get it but...what is it?  please respond.
thanks!

 If'n ya really want this thingy you could persuade me to part with mine,
>  but it's not really that exciting...
>
> kagin
> [email protected]
>
---pete
"i'm a hypocrite, i dish it out but i can't take it i know, you think
it's wrong, but maybe you're right but this is my song!"
                                        ---"hypocrite"   lush

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:49:31 -0800
From: "Peter C. Lee" ([email protected])
Subject: 300.500


hey,
        they're having a street bazaar at the student center at school
and there was a booth celling cd's.  i got the promo "lovelife e.p." by
lush for 2 bucks and on in there's "300 500"  does anyone know what that
is?  is that a new subsidiary for 4ad, like guernica, or something like vaughan
oliver's v23?  i would like to know...please respond!  thanks!  oh, on
the promo, there's the album version, suga bullit remix edit, and suga
bullit remix.  the remix is in the "desire lines e.p." but the edited is
only on this one, i guess.

                                        ---pete

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:58:02 -0800
From: scarab or serephim ([email protected])
Subject: V23 Fonts?

              processor" at Nov 30, 94 00:00:40 am

        I remember a posting a few days ago about V23 fonts?  If anybody
has any info on purchasing or downloading these, PLEASE contact me!

......Poltraver

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 14:19:39 -0600
From: Brian M Miller ([email protected])
Subject: Re: 300.500


On Wed, 30 Nov 1994, Peter C. Lee wrote:

> and there was a booth celling cd's.  i got the promo "lovelife e.p." by
> lush for 2 bucks and on in there's "300 500"  does anyone know what that


this was on the lisa germano "geek the girl" promo also?!?!?!?!?

MILLER


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 15:28:42 -0500
From: jOHN yOCHIM ([email protected])
Subject: Re: LUSH LUSH LUSH


In message Wed, 30 Nov 1994 10:42:40 -0800,
  ivo   writes:

>
>> 4  No singles in the US from SPlit
>>
> The rest of my message said that Hypocrite was MOST definitely a US
> single, and I am pretty sure that Lovelife was a US single.

Were they ever released as CD-singles?  Not to my knowledge.  To me, it's
not the same.  I don't listen to the radio here, because it's overrun w/
pathetic Stone-Temple-Pearl-Jam bastards.
            -jOHN

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 15:11:21 EST
From: "John M. Renfroe 823-5045" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: 4ad giveaways...


I bought the new Grenadine cd a few weeks ago, and it's phenomenal!  If
anyone bought the 7", they can really detect Warren's touch mixing the
songs. Especially Jenny Toomey's.  By the way, rumor has it she's got a
solo album that will be released on 4ad sometime in the future.
Also, don't expect an order from TeenBeat in a rational amount of time, it
just won't happen.

        --matt

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 12:31:08 -0800
From: Kelli-Jeanne ([email protected])
Subject: Re: 300.500


> > lush for 2 bucks and on in there's "300 500"  does anyone know what that
>
> this was on the lisa germano "geek the girl" promo also?!?!?!?!?

  don't these numbah's have someting to do with the cds and cd players
  and the way they play and something? like 33 1/3 for a rekkid...

  :shrug:

  *k*


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 16:16:00 0000
From: STARLITE BROCK EXT 4807 ([email protected])
Subject: Re: LUSH LUSH LUSH


  ivo   writes:

>
>> 4  No singles in the US from SPlit
>>
> The rest of my message said that Hypocrite was MOST definitely a US
> single, and I am pretty sure that Lovelife was a US single.

$ Were they ever released as CD-singles?  Not to my knowledge.  To me, it's
$ not the same.  I don't listen to the radio here, because it's overrun w/
$ pathetic Stone-Temple-Pearl-Jam bastards.


Exactly... maybe released as promo singles but that doesn't count as a
single.  Hypocrite nor Love Life were released as singles in the U.S.  I
had to resort to the UK CD singles.

THe tour was rather small wasn't it?  The only place they played in the
South East was Atlanta... no where else.  Don't they base touring on sales?
I figured it didn't sell well since the tour was so small.. only major
markets this time.

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 16:30:39 -0600
From: Kagin Lee (KAGIN%[email protected])
Subject: Re: 300.500


300/500 refers to the fact that cds turn at 300 to 500 rpm, sorta.
 It's not really accurate any more, and i think this fixation on these
 numbers is terribly silly.

Do y'all know if Taang ever got around to releasing the old Spacemen3
 stuff?  I never saw them, and a lot of things seem to indicate that
 Taang is all outta money (no swirlies for now).

Am I the only one who thinks that the Lisa Germano album is kinda weak?
 Some nice stuff such as "Cry Wolf" (which is very Jane Siberry) but...

kagin
[email protected]


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 14:39:54 -0800
From: Brant Nelson ([email protected])
Subject: 300-500


You know how you used to play vinyl at either 33 1/3 rpm or
45 rpm? Well, CDs rotate much faster, starting at 500 rpm
playing the first song on the innermost edge, and constantly
decreasing as the CD is played, toward 300 rpm at the outer
edge of the CD. The reason it has to slow down is that each
rotation of the CD holds more and more data the farther out you
go toward the edge (ie. if you were to "unwrap" the entire length
of the CD track, you'd find a constant density of data per unit length
along the whole thing, unlike what happens on vinyl where the density
increases as you play it toward the middle). The way CDs are recorded,
if one was played at a constant speed, the music would keep getting
faster the longer you played it since the laser would be picking up
more and more data in the same amount of time.

\>

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 18:12:11 -0600
From: "Jennifer L. Lueckemeyer" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: AVAM cd Found


>I saw one the other day at Best Buys,
>if you have one of those in your area. They're sprouting up all over the DC
>area.  Pretty good CD selection, great prices.
>


As an independent record store employee, nothing infuriates me more than to
see  people who claim to truly love music yet are willing to destroy the
very music stores that really support lesser known and more independent
groups by purchasing cd's at BEST BUY!!!! How do you think bands such as
those on any independent label survive and prosper?  It's not because of
massive radio play or high rankings in Billboard.  It IS because of the
support and promotion they get in smaller stores and radio stations, which
eventually pushes them into the limelight they deserve.  Without these, I
think fewer bands would ever get noticed.

And let's all remember the purpose of stores such as Best Buy...they want
to attract people to their store so they can sell them washing machines,
computers and stereos; they couldn't care less if you bought cd's or if you
listen to the coolest music around.  They just want to sell you the latest
from Mariah Carey and set you up with a new Pioneer stereo.

Go to most independently owned record stores and you find people who know
what the newest release is by the Cocteau Twins, not because it is on the
charts, but because they actually care about what they sell and keep up on
the whole music scene and not just the big sellers.  And it is in these
smaller stores that you will hear the new Red House Painters or the new Air
Miami, do you honestly think that Best Buy would ever play these to try to
promote them?

As for price, large industry stores can SELL cd's at a lower cost than most
independent stores can BUY them! This is the honest truth. It is no wonder
why smaller record stores are going out of business so rapidly, they are
being destroyed by big industry.  Yes, you may pay a little more in a
smaller store, but you are getting better customer service and a wider
selection of independent  and lesser known music.

So please, if you truly care about thislisty bands and others who are not
as widely known, please support local music stores when you can.

say yes to Best Buy...say good-"buy" to independent stores

Jennifer L.

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 19:15:13 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS ([email protected])
Subject: Misc bands and other things.


Greetings,

I was just wondering if anyone could help me out. I was looking for any album
review(s) for the following bands:

                                  1. Danse Society
                                  2. Southern Death Cult
                                  3. Every New Dead Ghost

I have heard one or two songs by these old bands but I'm afraid to actually
spend the money since these are import titles and if the disc(s) really suck
then...well you know the rest. Any help would be appriciated!!

Cheers,

aLFRED dOUGLAS


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 19:43:03 -0500
From: Ned Anderson ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Lush Interactive


Its true,

The Lush Interactive's best quality is that it is a sort of collector's item.
Also, it has some audio clips of the band that are nifty, but the constant
droning of the bells from "Light From a Dead Star" do get to you, especially
if you have a slower computer (like me). :)

Ned
Publisher, "Infrequently Lush"

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 19:22:51 -0600
From: Sanz ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Lush Lush Lush


On Tue, 29 Nov 1994, Randy Peppler wrote:

> >I doubt that we will get another single.  The CD flopped in the US.  Too
> >bad... I really enjoyed previous releases...  sob...
>
> Well, the CD was certainly good, but it got absolutely no marketing push
> or radio play from what I can tell...  I think this one was as good or
> better than anything they've done, so I don't agree with you last
> sentence...

NO MARKETING PUSH?! There were Ads (many half-page) ones everywhere &
"Hypocrite" got tons of airplay at the local (Chicago) cheesy (10 song
playlist) alt. station for several weeks. Plus there was lots of press:
CMJ, AP, Raygun,etc.

****************
Sanz Lashley SHE-dreampop straight up w/ a noisy chaser!
      snail: 5602 N. Ridge, Chicago, IL 60660


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 19:39:14 -0600
From: Martin Wagner ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Projekt goes UPC!


On Wed, 30 Nov 1994, vilexile wrote:

> That's right! Right here on the back of my new Love Spirals Downwards
> disc. How very classy! Anyone have a copy that lacks this fine little
> blemish? It's one of the ugliest and most annoying UPC's I've seen in
> quite some time, too: translucent with big ol' fat-ass numbers. Yuck.
> Anyway, Projekt were, to my knowledge, the last stand against these vile
> and offensive little boxes with which everyone seems keen to deface
> their album art, and now it seems they've been swallowed by the beast as
> well. I hope Mr. Rosenthal is proud of what he's done. Eat poison, Sam.
>
Yeah, that really sucks. Now LSD will have their music actually sold in
record stores where people will see it. Too bad, huh.

MW :)

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 18:17:01 -0800
From: vilexile ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Projekt goes UPC!


On Wed, 30 Nov 1994, Martin Wagner wrote:

> > their album art, and now it seems they've been swallowed by the beast as
> > well. I hope Mr. Rosenthal is proud of what he's done. Eat poison, Sam.

> Yeah, that really sucks. Now LSD will have their music actually sold in
> record stores where people will see it. Too bad, huh.

I said nothing about incorporating the code in general. There are plenty
of ways to do so without embedding it. Inserts, stickers, whatever. Hell,
they slapped a sticker on the disc anyway, and it was silly to boot.
There's no reason they couldn't make it a little bigger, print the code
below it, and stick it on the actual case instead of the plastic. Big
job, I know. 4AD managed it for a while, though.

Meanwhile, there's hardly a big bold-type note next to the Projekt
releases in the big distribution catalogues that says "danger! no bar
codes! do not order!"

 einexile


Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 16:29:43 -0800
From: ivo ([email protected])
Subject: Re: 300.500


>
> > and there was a booth celling cd's.  i got the promo "lovelife e.p." by
> > lush for 2 bucks and on in there's "300 500"  does anyone know what that


I think, and I will probably be proven wrong, that 4AD/WB Promo discs all
have this.  Many promos that we got at the radio station from 4AD
including Unrest, Pale Saints, Dead Can Dance, Lush, Lisa Germano, etc
have this little thingy on it..... it's probably just to show that it's a
promo disc or something.

Ivo


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