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Subject: TMC: Sixteen Days
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 01:10:31 -0500
From: The Purple Sage (purp@PCNET.COM)
Subject: Re: Swervedriver
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 04:14:44 -0800
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: sixteen sayd
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 04:44:41 -0800
From: Brant Nelson (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: "depressing" music
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 09:01:53 -0800
From: Julian Stewart (camus@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Stay Frightened
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 13:02:18 -0500
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: DCD WebSite UPDATE
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 12:17:50 -0700
From: Raven Zachary (raven@UNIX.NETS.COM)
Subject: shoegazing?
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 14:04:47 -0800
From: "Eduardo M. Salomon" (salomon@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: "depressing" music
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 15:10:12 -0800
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: to Kelli-Jeanne
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 18:12:15 -0500
From: Kevin Michael Pajak (pajakkev@STUDENT.MSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Suggestions wanted
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 17:30:29 -0500
From: toaster oven (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: AVAM cd Found in Monterey, ca. a bit south of Santa Cruz)
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 17:23:28 -0800
From: Charles Peyton Taylor (CTaylor@WPOSMTP.NPS.NAVY.MIL)
Subject: The most depressing albums of all time...
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 21:27:29 -0500
From: jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU
Subject: DCD on: Music from the Hearts of Space
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 22:31:15 -0500
From: Michael Booth (booth@PHYS.UFL.EDU)

Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 01:10:31 -0500
From: The Purple Sage (purp@PCNET.COM)
Subject: TMC: Sixteen Days


I just picked up this 12" last night (haven't had the chance to listen to
it yet, and haven't been concious enough to enjoy it), and was wondering
if anyone knows anything about it... It's not something I remember seeing
mentioned on here at all...


purp

(listening to Tainted Love... by Coil) }:>


Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 04:14:44 -0800
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Swervedriver


On Sat, 19 Nov 1994, Kagin Lee wrote:

> > Really, I was pretty disappointed with Mezcal Head. Hopefully they were
> > just not used to working without a full band and will get back on track.
> > There were some great songs on that album as well as some trash. Was
> > there ever a third single?

> What were the first two singles?  I recall a Never Lose That Feeling ep,
>  Duel ep, and Last Train to Satansville single.  Ya want more?

I wasn't counting Never Lose That Feeling because it was out so long
before the album came out. Actually, I think it's only a bonus track on
the US version. Duel and Satansville were the two I thought of. And no, I
don't want more based on the quality of the two singles. I just had it in
mind that I'd missed something. :)

> There was a british band called Fenn who had a sound very similar to
>  swervedriver...slightly punkier perhaps.  I never did find a copy of the
>  album for myself. *sigh*

I actually don't enjoy or listen to anyone who sounds remotely like
Swervedriver. I hate that whole style and thing the Swervies are the only
band who have pulled it off with such energy and creativity. It's music
that would blow me away however it was played. The way certain songs by
Curve, The Cure, The Sundays, the Cranes and a few other bands can just
flow through and carry you, then bombard you with surprises without
distracting you. I guess this is why I was unhappy with Mezcal Head--half
the time they are brilliant, but half the time they are just a dumb rock
band. I guess Raise is this way also and my expectations were just too
high.

I take no responsibility for the above pun. It was predestined.


 einexile


Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 04:44:41 -0800
From: Brant Nelson (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: sixteen sayd


The Sixteen Days / Gathering Dust 12" was the first This Mortal
Coil release and it features the song that got This Mortal
Coil started in the first place: a combination of the two
Modern English songs Sixteen Days and Gathering Dust. Modern
English didn't want to record it themselves, so Ivo started
This Mortal Coil.

brant
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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 09:01:53 -0800
From: Julian Stewart (camus@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: "depressing" music



        I can't say I feel comfortable typecasting much of the music I listen
to as "depressing." I remember far too well being 17 and having my parents
walk into my room, saying, "What _is_ this depressing shit you're listening to?"

        So I suppose I prefer to think of those musics as "introspective."
Some of my favorite musicians/recordings in that genre:

1) House of Love- the first album (w/ "Christine" on it): This album is actually
        pretty damn wicked, if you pay attention to the lyrics.

2) Matt Johnson- "Burning Blue Soul": I'd have to agree with e-- this may be
        the darkest album I've heard.

3) Cure- early stuff, particularly "Faith."

4) Brian Eno/Harold Budd- "Ambient 2": I find this album supremely alienating.
        It always makes me think of deserted winter landscapes.

5) David Bowie- "Station to Station" and "Low": These albums have pain written
        all over them, both being conceived at the darkest part of Bowie's life.

6) Joy Division- no comment :)

        I could go on...but thankfully for all of you, I won't :)


-julian-


Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 13:02:18 -0500
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Stay Frightened


  "Of These Reminders" has a number of good songs...none better than
the 2 by Stay Frightened.  Do they have any recordings other than this?


TIM CONLON
U590@sysm.acs.Virginia.EDU


Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 12:17:50 -0700
From: Raven Zachary (raven@UNIX.NETS.COM)
Subject: DCD WebSite UPDATE


The Dead Dance Can Website (http://www.nets.com/dcd) now has the listing of
theatres in the U.S. which will be showing "Towards the Within" on the
big screen.  If you know of other theatres which are not listed, please
use the automated feedback form to inform us of the addition.


Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 14:04:47 -0800
From: "Eduardo M. Salomon" (salomon@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: shoegazing?


Have been a big fan of 4AD stuff for years, and can't seem to get enough
of the so-called  dream-pop & shoegazer sound. Just curious to know if
anybody out there knows other greats which I may not have yet discovered.

Current stuff I've enjoyed over the years are: My Bloody Valentine, Luna,
The Durutti Column, Stone Roses, Lush, Michael Brook, Curve,
Swerevedriver, J & M Chain, Medicine, Sonic Youth, Verve, Cure, etc.
Have also been hearing lots of praise for Slowdive, figure I'll check
them out sometime, too.

Looking forward to your recommendations,

Edo


Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 15:10:12 -0800
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: "depressing" music


On Sun, 20 Nov 1994, Julian Stewart wrote:

> 4) Brian Eno/Harold Budd- "Ambient 2": I find this album supremely alienating.
>         It always makes me think of deserted winter landscapes.

The Harold Budd/Brian Eno album _The Pearl_ is very similar to this,
except somewhat fuller sounding and maybe a little more towards maudlin.
Goes well with science fiction about unhappy people in faraway places.
Ambient 1: Music for Airports is pretty good, too, though it is so bleak
I can hardly listen to it.

 einexile

Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 18:12:15 -0500
From: Kevin Michael Pajak (pajakkev@STUDENT.MSU.EDU)
Subject: to Kelli-Jeanne

              Nov 18, 94 09:01:56 am

 Things will get better Kelli-Jeanne. Have faith, strength, and persistence!
 Kevin Pajak : pajakkev@student.msu.edu
p.s. Has anyone heard the new DCD song? I know Brendan Perry sings, but is it
really DCD (with Lisa Gerrard) or is it smthg else?
                                               Ciao.

Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 17:30:29 -0500
From: toaster oven (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Suggestions wanted

              17 Nov 1994 11:49:51 -0500

well, low has an appropriate name for their music, and codeine always makes me
want to crawl into my bed with all lights off, chain-smoke, and cry.  the cure's
disintegration (sp) is great for cold, rainy days, and faith is desolation.
my two pence,
-joanna-
yep.


Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 17:23:28 -0800
From: Charles Peyton Taylor (CTaylor@WPOSMTP.NPS.NAVY.MIL)
Subject: AVAM cd Found in Monterey, ca. a bit south of Santa Cruz)


I finally have something to say to the list that hasn't
already been said by someone else.
Okay, I was going to order the AVAM Cd from darkwave,
but then a friend of mine, Jim, said he was going to
order it for the store he works for.  So, for the past,
oh, month and a half, the following conversation has
played out:

(repeat every other day)

Distributor guy/gal: Suuuuure, it should be there any day now.
(repeat every week)


Well they're in!  There are about oh, I'd say at least fifteen
Avam CD's at cymbleline (sp?) records in Monterey, on alvarado
street.  I only bought one, but if the Fair people of monterey
don't realize what lies in that (ugh!) digipack, I'm gonna do
the collector scum thing and buy a couple to sell later at
inflated prices.

C  h a r l e s    P e y t o n   T a y l o r
ctaylor@nps.navy.mil
The opinions and views expressed        ** even though we're on our
own,
are my own and do not reflect           ** we are never all alone,
Those of the Naval PostGraduate School  ** when we are singing,
singing.


Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 21:27:29 -0500
From: jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU
Subject: The most depressing albums of all time...


This list of depressing albums is interesting to me, because if there's one
constant theme in the music I like, it's that it's dark.  Here are some of
my faves:

6. FRANK SINATRA -- In The Wee Small Hours Of The Morning (I'm not kidding!)
5. RED HOUSE PAINTERS -- Down Colorful Hill (for the song, "Michael")
4. LOW -- I Could Live In Hope
3. CODEINE -- Frigid Stars (for the lyric, "D for effort, D for intent, D
because you pay the rent")
2. JOY DIVISION -- Unknown Pleasures (for a long night years ago spent
listening to "I Remember Nothing" on headphones in the dark with my worried
friends trying to break in and get me to stop)

And for the most depressing album of all time:

1. LOU REED -- Berlin

Bye!

-Jeff

Jeffrey T. Gayton
jtgayton@polisci.wisc.edu
(608) 259-9084
212 West Gilman  #111
Madison, WI  53703


Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 22:31:15 -0500
From: Michael Booth (booth@PHYS.UFL.EDU)
Subject: DCD on: Music from the Hearts of Space


I just happened to notice that 11/11-11/18 program of Music from the
Hearts of Space features Dead Can Dance (and a closing track by Fripp
and Eno).  Here's the program note:

A retrospective of 8 years of dangerously beautiful music by the
contemporary Anglo-Irish-Australian group DEAD CAN DANCE.

Of course, this may be too late for some, but if your station is like
mine it won't be on for a few weeks yet.

Funny, before I moved to Florida, I thought Hearts of space was lame
new-age music ...

Informationally yours,
Mike Booth


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