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Subject: 18th Dye
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 00:36:11 -0500
From: Hk Kahng (FARRAGO@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: technotechnotechnotechno and Michael Brook
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 11:02:21 +0000
From: "A.J. Norman" (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: shit stirring/dcd apart?
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 23:22:00 +0200
From: Adrian Sevitz (adrian.sevitz@digitec.co.za)
Subject: Re: FSOL's email address?
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 09:02:07 RSA
From: Theo (130FS4%WITSVMB@WITSVMA.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: Re: Volume 3
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 09:22:27 RSA
From: Theo (130FS4%WITSVMB@WITSVMA.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: Re: Volume 3
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 08:56:05 +0000
From: "A.J. Norman" (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Volume 3
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:04:41 RSA
From: Theo (130FS4%WITSVMB@WITSVMA.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: Dirt Eaters
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:45:09 -0500
From: Robogirl (esherman@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: sorry :)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:18:39 -0500
From: Robogirl (esherman@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Question & Comment
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 15:46:06 GMT
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: pj video
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 13:38:56 -0500
From: Michael garrett (MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU)
Subject: Re: Question & Comment
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 10:58:47 -0800
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: Re: DCD -- Lives apart?
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 07:26:15 -0600
From: kendal obermeyer (kobermey@UNLINFO.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Lisa Germano/Pale Saints
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 15:21:54 -0800
From: Julian Stewart (camus@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: With all the CT talk...
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 19:21:45 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Toward The Within in Columbus, Ohio
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 10:42:03 -0500
From: "M. Christopher Jones" (mcjones@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU)
Subject: Re: WEEZER (was) Re: Recent Videos (was: NON 4AD . . . in a big
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 17:32:01 -0800
From: Michael Entler (mentler@CALVIN.LINFIELD.EDU)
Subject: Re: wheezer and that spike vid-e-o
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 17:49:17 -0800
From: Kelli-Jeanne (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Toward the Within/NYC (angelica theater)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 21:02:20 -0500
From: Edward Pak (ep2j+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU)
Subject: fsa discog??
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 20:46:34 CST
From: John Nguyen Van (jvskip@OWLNET.RICE.EDU)

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 00:36:11 -0500
From: Hk Kahng (FARRAGO@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: 18th Dye


18th Dye have a few releases on the Che Records label (two 7"s and one 10"
LP, or so says the liner notes to my copy of _Joy! - A Che Compilation_).
Between the 7" on Quixotic ("Coffee Cup Revisited" b/w "Dive") and the Che
compilation, I've only heard three of their songs ("Dive" is again featured
on the comp), but I really like what I've heard so far.

And they're from Berlin.  Or so says the liner notes.

BTW, any fans of the band Fur lurking about?

Cheers,


hk

PS.  Buy the new Jessamine album at any cost.  And the 7" on SubPop as well.
Both are fantastic!

PPS. "Buddy Holly"?  Shouldn't that be more like "Pet Sounds"?

PPPS.Luscious Kate and Jo Breeders, a couple.  Hmmm.  I think I hear the sound
of a million straight alternaboy hearts breaking... *crash*....  :)

Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 11:02:21 +0000
From: "A.J. Norman" (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: technotechnotechnotechno and Michael Brook


Global Communication have just released a single - one of those horrible
2-part CD affairs, unfortunately.  One of them has a remix by Michael
Brook, and the other a remix by Spiritualized.  The song's called
"Maiden Voyage", and it sounds oddly similar to a Michael Brook song
anyway - that melodic repetitive style that the Durutti Column have as
well.  MB adds some guitar, and the Spiritualized mix adds some sax and
what sounds like live guitars (almost like Neil Young's "Arc").  GC are
usually a bit too rhythm-oriented for my tastes, but these mixes are
very pleasant.  (The Grid do one of the other mixes, which sounds pretty
much as you would expect it to).

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England | Jedermann sein eigner Fussball
nja@le.ac.uk                      |


Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 23:22:00 +0200
From: Adrian Sevitz (adrian.sevitz@digitec.co.za)
Subject: shit stirring/dcd apart?


MS> music together without ever having to be together physically.  However, I
MS> probably shouldn't even be talking about how I know the band, or else certai

MS> people here (like STEVE HILL) will blast me for being biased when I talk
MS> about their music (I don't care; I like DCD regardless).

I don't mind that you like the band. Infact I am curious to how you know
the band. What are they like in real life as real people? I living in the
ass end of the world have always put famous people and artists sorta up on
a pedistal as bigger than life (hell they always were 8000km away) and
sounds kinda wierd to talk about these people that you've met.

Gnome

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 09:02:07 RSA
From: Theo (130FS4%WITSVMB@WITSVMA.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: Re: FSOL's email address?

              15 Nov 1994 23:30:38 -0600 from 

In response to the person who desires FSOL's e-mail:: runs as follows:

                      FSOL@FSOL.DEMON.CO.UK
In case you are all wondering why this is wasting bandwidth to the list there
is   a wee point I have to make and that is that these fine young men dont actu
ally respond to mail(WELL,not the 2 pieces I have sent)
I tried the gushing fan mail approach,and the well-informed serious lover of am
bient(and in particular FSOL)music,and neither got me a reply.I suppose it is a
 bit ambitious to expect them to reply to one,but I figure that if they have
advertised the address as extensively as they have,then it implies that some
sort of reciprocation will occur,even if it is only a "Thank you for your
letter.Fuck off and die.".
Anyway,This does not(and should not)detract from the fact that I think the stuf
f they are doing is fantastic.
For those not on the Ambient list,they are doing some stuff under the name Far
Out Son Of Lung.Word has it that it is very good.

Seeing as I have written a lengthy,informative,and sort-of articulate letter
to The List With A Reputation To Maintain,can I put in a one-liner?NO??!!
Too bad,here goes.

This Mortal Coil suk ,and they sond  lik  a krap imatashin of the Fall

I cant believe the list is back onto this goddamn MBV/Project stuff/sounds-like
rip-off debate.

It is uncool to be cool
HOTE

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 09:22:27 RSA
From: Theo (130FS4%WITSVMB@WITSVMA.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: Re: Volume 3

              16 Nov 1994 22:14:10 -0500 from 

The Breeders track on Volume 3 is Safari,one of the tracks on  BAD2003.
Dont be fooled When Volume say that it is rare/unreleased etc.It sounds
exactly the same as the version on the aforementioned release.
Volume 3 is also very good for the Honeytongue track (Josephine Wiggs outfit)
I havent listened to this volume for a while,but get it if you can,as there is
a lot of exceptional stuff on (I may be wrong,but I think THERAPY? Innocent x
is also on here
Best wishes
The conformist

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 08:56:05 +0000
From: "A.J. Norman" (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Volume 3

              94 09:22:27 am

Theo <130FS4%WITSVMB@WITSVMA.WITS.AC.ZA> said:
>
> The Breeders track on Volume 3 is Safari,one of the tracks on  BAD2003.
> Dont be fooled When Volume say that it is rare/unreleased etc.It sounds
> exactly the same as the version on the aforementioned release.

It's remixed, surely?  Long time since I listened to it, but I remember
it as sounding much rougher than the version on the EP.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England | Jedermann sein eigner Fussball
nja@le.ac.uk                      |

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:04:41 RSA
From: Theo (130FS4%WITSVMB@WITSVMA.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: Re: Volume 3

              17 Nov 1994 08:56:05 +0000 from 

Hoo,you may be right,it has been about 18 months since i listened to either of
these tracks.Tell you what,I'll go home and post a less impulsive review
tomorrow.Put in  a sheepish-looking emoticon until I redo this

The silly tart

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:45:09 -0500
From: Robogirl (esherman@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Dirt Eaters


Well

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:18:39 -0500
From: Robogirl (esherman@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: sorry :)


Sorry about that last post. Anyhow, I was wondering how rare the HNIA
Dirt Eaters EP is.. thanks!


Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 15:46:06 GMT
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: Question & Comment


Timothy Conlon wrote:

>Has anyone seen/heard "The Elephant Table Album: A Collection of
>Difficult Music"?  Includes music by Attrition, Coil, Chris & Cosey,
>SPK...and a dozen other groups.  Sometime around 1983.

Yes!  What do you want to know about it?  As I remember, it's a double album
with about twenty groups contributing.  It was put together by Dave Henderson,
who wrote the Wild Planet features for Sounds magazine in the early eighties.
There was a followup released (not so good IMHO) which I can't remember the
title of (it might have been Three Minute Symphony - all the tracks were about
three minutes long).

Simon

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 13:38:56 -0500
From: Michael garrett (MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU)
Subject: pj video


        This message may not be entirely this-listy, but I know some people
here probably share my interest. so here goes:  Last spring there was a
video documentary/concert footage release of PJ Harvey, called "Reelin'."  To
the best of my knowledge, it was only released in Europe (because I have not
been able to find it here in the states).  Does anyone know anythin about
this? a distributor? an address? I'd really like to get my hands on it. Thanks.
Mike_______MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU_________________

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 10:58:47 -0800
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: Re: Question & Comment


TIM CONLON  writes:
>
>Has anyone seen/heard "The Elephant Table Album: A Collection of
>Difficult Music"?  Includes music by Attrition, Coil, Chris & Cosey,
>SPK...and a dozen other groups.  Sometime around 1983.

Yes.  I own it.  What do you wanna know?  It a classic double-album

of early 80s "post-industrial" music.  In addition to the groups you

list, it also features Portion Control, Bourbanese Qualk, and one of

the best Nurse with Wound tracks ever ("Nana, or a thing of uncertain
nonsense" guaranteed to drive friends away screaming! :-)

In 1989, it was reissued on CD (though with a few tracks missing
to fit it on one disc).

With the exception of the C&C track, I wouldn't say it was
very thislisty, and if you want the C&C track, you should
just buy the Wax Trax Greatest Hits disc or _Collectiv II_.

Reality


Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 07:26:15 -0600
From: kendal obermeyer (kobermey@UNLINFO.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: DCD -- Lives apart?

              16, 94 07:27:57 pm

Regarding the dcd-lives apart thing...You know as much as or more than
i do....but have you ever seen pictures of that part of Ireland?  does
anyone know if Brendan is Australian or Irish...i can't tell.  Yes,
Quivvy Church must be lovely...19th century done in wood and deep
colours (watch the interviews on the Toward the Within video...)
Anybody with more information on the people behind the music...please
respond directly to:
                        kobermey@unlinfo.unl.edu


Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 15:21:54 -0800
From: Julian Stewart (camus@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Lisa Germano/Pale Saints


        The show at the Fox theater Monday night was outstanding. When else
are you going to be able to see two 4AD acts for a mere $5.75?

        Idaho seemed like a fairly solid band. They remind me of both Red House
Painters and American Music Club.

        Lisa Germano's set was full of cynical wit. After playing three rather
dark songs in a row, she smiled and said, "Fun, huh?" :) "Happiness" made for
a cool encore.

        Pale Saints played an absolutely smoking set. My ears were buzzing
halfway through their performance. No "Kinky Love," but it _was_ nice to hear
them play "Sight of You" (even if neither Meriel nor Colleen was in the band
at the time of that song).

        A big surprise was a cover of the Mazzy Star tune, "Blue Flower."
Probably not a coincidence that Mazzy Star is playing here on Friday :)

        Not surprisingly, there were perhaps 125 people there. It was no problem
getting a choice seat behind the soundboard.

        Snag a copy of the tour poster if you get a chance. Looks great next
to my Pearly-Dewdrops Drops poster....


julian

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 19:21:45 -0400
From: aLFRED dOUGLAS (R684863S@VAX.EDINBORO.EDU)
Subject: Re: With all the CT talk...


Shit tosser #1 Wrote:

>>
>> TO THE REST OF THE LIST : I'm kinda getting tired of this guys out
>> bursts...lets say we give him till the 1st of December to get off the
>> damn list so we can continue discussing serious music without his
>> worthless banter.
>>

Shit tosser #2 Wrote:

>Yeah, and I'm sure he would listen to you, or anyone else who told him he
>HAD to get off public access mailing list.  Exactly WHO do you think you
>are?  Banter or no banter, your suggetion is ignorant and an embarassment to
>everything the internet stands for.  Why don't _you_ sigh off if you can't
>take it?
>
>
>           -jOHN

Hello,

Let me interject here and say that, I really like the Cocteau Twins and am
proud of the fact and anyone who has a problem with that can sod off.
Secondly, although I totally agree with Shit tosser #2, I belong to a number
of other music discussion groups and have seen the list administrator toss
people right off the goddamned list for speaking their minds; so much for
what the internet stands for, so much for freedom of opinion. I think people
have the right to speak their minds as long as it deals with the subject at
hand. If you don't like what is being said, then delete the goddamned message,
it's not like it's going to drasticly alter your life or change the music you
listen to. Some people need to put their head in the icebox.

4AD's Favourite,

Alfred Douglas.


Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 10:42:03 -0500
From: "M. Christopher Jones" (mcjones@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU)
Subject: Toward The Within in Columbus, Ohio


Greetings....

It was just announced today that the Wexner Center for the Arts in
Columbus, Ohio will be screening Dead Can Dance's film Toward The Within on
January 21, 1995 at 7:30 pm and 9 pm.
The screening will be in the Wexner Center Film/Video Theater (bigger than
your TV).
Call (614) 292-2354 for ticket information.

Cheers.

-Chris


Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 17:32:01 -0800
From: Michael Entler (mentler@CALVIN.LINFIELD.EDU)
Subject: Re: WEEZER (was) Re: Recent Videos (was: NON 4AD . . . in a big

              way)

        Well I don't want anyone to stop enjoying what they do enjoy, but
I find weezer(so far I reserve the right to change my mind) very dull and
a group i would definitely drop into the Alternative(I'll turn it off)
branch of the music market.
        As for the video it seemed to me to be an obvious type, and
eventually someone would have done it. I think it wasn't executed as well
as it could have been though. I half way wish a band I liked more and
respected more did this vidoe. But the songs nice and poppy(dull for me)
and it seems to work in conjunction to the video.
        Hey it's boring and obvious to me, but like what you like...
        sorry to waste bandwidth I'm just curious baout other people's
view of this group and music...

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 17:49:17 -0800
From: Kelli-Jeanne (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: wheezer and that spike vid-e-o


  i hate that sweater song.
  i like this goofy buddy holly thingy.
  the video rokks, but not as much as the beastie boys' "sabotage".
  did i spell sabotage right?
  anyhoo, the vid is kool, not just 'cuz spike did it {and i deem him
  the god of making-kool-alternative-videos-for-ocassionally-ucky-bands},
  but because i like all those lame sitcoms that i grew up watching..
  happy days, the brady bunch {now there's a show i'd like to be morphe
  into for a day}, three's company, mork & mindy...BUT NOT THE PARTRIDGE
  FAMILY.
  uh...that's it.

  *k-j* ..doesn't look like buddy holly, m. tyler moore, or jOHN..
        ..sort of resembles pebbles from the flintstones at the
        moment..not the teen pebbles..the li'l kid...
        ..ok...i lied...i look like roseanne barr..everyone who's
        seen me knows the whole awful truth... :)

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 21:02:20 -0500
From: Edward Pak (ep2j+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU)
Subject: Toward the Within/NYC (angelica theater)


Is Toward the Within still playing at Angelica in Manhattan... I know
they were doing midnite showings... but I was wondering if that's still
going on?

-eddie


Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 20:46:34 CST
From: John Nguyen Van (jvskip@OWLNET.RICE.EDU)
Subject: fsa discog??


 hey all,

        i just bought _Distance_ by Flying Saucer Attack and it rocks! Can
        anyone offer up a discog?? Info on the band itself?? Thanks!


                                                jv.