4ad-l Mail for 11-12-1994

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Re: Derivative / "sucks"
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Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear
Re: Derivative / "sucks"
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Smitten Kitten
Pale Saints on tour?
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Jasmin Patry
Re: Pram info requested
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jOHN yOCHIM
NON 4AD... in a big way
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jOHN yOCHIM
The Aperture Shuts....
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ivo
Re: Fw: Laika
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Kurt Allen Revis
NEW DREAMPOP home page
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Brendon Macaraeg
ooops! URL was wrong! sorry!
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Brendon Macaraeg
Re: NEW DREAMPOP home page
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Brendon Macaraeg
corruption, illegality,
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jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU
Vox/Fadia El-Hage
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Richard Singer
new (D)HNIA?
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Brian Keeley
Re: Skinner box
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faster than a rolling o
Re: CD Singles for Sale...
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Aloysious
Throwing Muses
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Adrian Sevitz

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From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear

Subject: Re: Derivative / "sucks"

I'm almost certain that Liz Fraser's tattoo says "Johnny Rotten", not Siouxsie. Of course, as you said, she never wears sleeveless clothing (at least not when I'VE seen her), so who knows. Anyone know for sure? Mike

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From: Smitten Kitten

Subject: Re: Derivative / "sucks"

On Mon, 7 Nov 1994, Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear wrote: > I'm almost certain that Liz Fraser's tattoo says "Johnny Rotten", not Siouxsie > Of course, as you said, she never wears sleeveless clothing (at least not > when I'VE seen her), so who knows. Anyone know for sure? > > Mike To which reply: A friend of mine says he met her and she showed off her tatoos, albeit sheepishly, for a small gathering. There are 3 tatoos, I think. Definitely more than one. He said one says something like "I Love Johnny Rotten" or simply "Johnny Rotten," she flashed it and was real embarassed about it. Ratcat>

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From: Jasmin Patry

Subject: Pale Saints on tour?

On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, Steve Hill wrote: > An unconfirmed rumour puts Pale Saints up for an in-store appearance at > Reckless Records (Broadway at Belmont) before the show on Friday. Please post > if someone can confirm this. I was wondering if anyone had a complete list of the dates for this "tour" (apologies if this has already been posted). Specifically I would be interested in a Toronto date, if there is one. Cheers, Jasmin

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From: jOHN yOCHIM

Subject: Re: Pram info requested

In message Thu, 10 Nov 1994 11:50:00 CDT, Steven Titus writes: > That's right, Pram info requested. I welded "Helium" into my CD player a > few weeks back (thanks to Boroda) and it is finally coming loose. Can > anyone review/recommend their other releases. If there ever is a circus > in outer space, Pram will definitely be under the big top. > > titus > All I have is "Iron Lung", which is their 1st ep on Too Pure. I like it quite a bit. It has 5ive songs, the last one is a 2 parter. It sounds like it was recorded in someones closet, or barn or something... I can hear a lot of tape hiss on the CD... unless they actually wanted it there. Who Knows. The Drums sound like garbage can lids sometimes, and her voive is very chilling. I just wish they used those guitars a little bit more. But thats just me. Some one compared them to MOONSHAKE once, but I have yet to hear any similarity. Someone else compared them to MBV's LOOMER. But I only have one ep. Thats all I know. I wish someone who actually knew something about the band would give some info. -jOHN who is living to see "buddy Holly" by Weezer again

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From: jOHN yOCHIM

Subject: NON 4AD... in a big way

I aplogize for this VERY no-thislisty post, but I cannot help myself. Last night I saw the GREATEST thing I have ever seen on TV... especially MTV. It's the new WEEZER video. It is so good. For those of you who haven't seen the video, and pass them off as shite, they somehow manage to put the band on a HAPPY DAYS set, and make them interact w/ the cast... including Fonzi and Richie! It is SO damn cool. Even if you HATE the music, you should still go to great lenghts to see this video. Please forgive me for my temporary fit of irrational behavior... I need my medication. Lots of sincere love and hugs and even some smooches, -jOHN who saw Weezer open for Lush and they were good... but not as good as their latest video... which is probably a stupid BUZZ CLIP by now.

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From: ivo

Subject: The Aperture Shuts....

Picked up two new cds yesterday.... In Camera's 13 (Lucky for Some) and The Legendary Wolfgang Press.... I am no listening to In Camera and I think it's really neat...kinda like an odd cross between early Cocteau Twins, PIL, and The Birthday Party.....very neat...very early 4AD. I love this old stuff! Haven't listened to the Wolfgang Press yet, but from what I've heard of Wolfgang Press and what I've seen about people's reactions to them on this list (not to mention what I OWN by them)....I still have no idea what to expect. I'm kind of expecting an album along the lines of Cut The Tree, but will probably like anything....:) Ivo "Full moon past the window sideways..." ----------- | * | * O| beswick@scf.usc.edu |---------| | *| | ---m-/\/\-m-- ( )

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From: Kurt Allen Revis

Subject: Re: Fw: Laika

"A.J. Norman" writes: > >jOHN ASKED WHETHER lAIKA AND THE cOSMONAUTS IS THE SAME BAND AS lAIKA - >THE ANSWER IS NO. >L&tC are an American band, I think. Respectfully, you're drunk. Laika & the Cosmonauts are a Finnish surf band which has (inexplicably) become sort of popular recently. I like it, but I don't know enough about the whole genre to know if it's really any good or just a novelty. The idea itself is pretty amusing, though. -- Kurt Revis Out of key. Slightly. krevis@cco.caltech.edu Just enough to annoy you. WWWhatever...

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From: Brendon Macaraeg

Subject: NEW DREAMPOP home page

Hey all you pop music fans! I am just put up a sneak preview of the WWW version of my e-zine DREAMPOP. I think most of you will find something here to like. Not all the review pages are up yet, but you can get a taste of what I have to offer by setting the URL of your favorite web browser to: Let me know what you think. --Brendon p.s. A few of the inline images are in the JPEG format. I would suggest getting your hands on the new web browser NETSCAPE, which supports inline viewing of JPEG images. Still, you can use Lynx just to read the text if ya want. Mosaic will not display inline images. Cheers! ================================================== Brendon Macaraeg bqm1808@is.nyu, 72241.1735@compuserve.com, brendon355@aol.com Writer/Editor of DREAMPOP: ===================================================

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From: Brendon Macaraeg

Subject: ooops! URL was wrong! sorry!

So sorry. Ignore the URL in my last message! The correct URL for the WWW DREAMPOP e-zine is: Thanks! ================================================== Brendon Macaraeg bqm1808@is.nyu, 72241.1735@compuserve.com, brendon355@aol.com Writer/Editor of DREAMPOP: ===================================================

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From: Brendon Macaraeg

Subject: Re: NEW DREAMPOP home page

> Mosaic will not display inline images. Cheers! Oops again. I meant to type that Mosaic will not display inline JPEG images. It will display GIFs This is my last message regarding this. Thanks for you patience. --B. ================================================== Brendon Macaraeg bqm1808@is.nyu, 72241.1735@compuserve.com, brendon355@aol.com Writer/Editor of DREAMPOP: ===================================================

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From: jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU

Subject: corruption, illegality,

and musical taste -- payola and buying/selling promos I just felt like writing in about a few of the things that have been buzzing around the list for the past couple of weeks. Not so much because I'm particularly interested, but because I felt like writing. Anyway, about buying and selling promos. My impression was that most people didn't have much of a problem with it because it only hurts the record company. Wrong! It does hurt the record company but it also hurts the bands. Why? Well, for one thing, the bands get no royalties from promo copies. So if you only buy the promo copy, the band gets nothing. The label looses too (though I think many of us have less sympathy here). Personlly, I collect the promos _and_ the regular releases, so my conscience is clear on this point (as well as stupid!). But by buying promos, we prevent them from being played on the radio and in shops, which almost always means that fewer people hear the proper releases and thus don't buy them. Here, of course, I'm not so innocent. How is this connected to payola? Well, when you think about it, all these promos are sold by someone, aren't they? Well, who makes that money? The radio stations and record shops! Of course, labels all know that their promos are sold, so this can be seen as something of a bribe. Someone argued that the dominance of shitty bands on the radio is evidence of payola as well. Personally, I'm not so sure about this. Of course, the thousands, if not millions of dollars the "owners" of people like Mariah Carry and Phil Collins pay out helps keep them in the public mind (or is that ear?). But, to paraphrase P.T. Barnum, "No one every went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." There are, as distasteful as it seems, people who really like Phil Collins and think him a great artist. God, what a depressing thought. Well, I've spoken my peace. Feel free to ignore it or respond. - Jeff Jeffrey T. Gayton jtgayton@polisci.wisc.edu

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From: Richard Singer

Subject: Vox/Fadia El-Hage

I love this song by a group called Vox (described in liner notes as being "Anglo/German/Lebanese"), with a singer named Fadia El-Hage, which is featured on the world music compilation _Trance Planet, Volume One_. I think this group would appeal to a lot of fans of 4AD (of course, Dead Can Dance immediately came to mind), so I was wondering if anyone out there knew of this group, had recommendations for recordings, or even knew how these people were classified (world? alternative? classical?). Any comments would be welcome. -- Richard Singer

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From: Brian Keeley

Subject: new (D)HNIA?

I know next to nothing about HNIA, but this was posted to the New-Music list, so I thought I'd pass it on. Reality =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > >I've gotten in touch with this guy at a new label, Isomorphic >Records, and I though I should mention it here. You can email >him, and get the ordering information. I haven't gotten a copy, >but it looks like it should be tasty. Here's the track listing: > > Illusion of Safety - THW > Big City Orchestra - Karawane > Princess Dragon-Mom - Theme For Food > UMVUE - At Once > Paul Lemos (with Joe Papa) - Interlude #4 > Smersh - My God Those Legs > Simon Wickham-Smith & A Band - Martian Love Call > Randy Greif - Rusted Sorrow of the Old Crane > Automaticity - Aimless > Lot 49 - After the Murder > Dead His Name Is Alive - Do You Want to Have Trouble? > Condemek - Pat > Jim O'Rourke - Purge > Basic Noise - Insect Control > >The CD also has a 16 page color booklet with artwork from >the contributing artists. It is a numbered edition of 1000. >Email him at the following for info: jgreid@stein.u.washington.edu Dead?

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From: faster than a rolling o

Subject: Re: Skinner box

LINIMON@delphi.com sez: >I've been meaning to ask, but has anyone on the list heard of (or actually >heard) Skinner box? i'm a little bit late injoining this discussion but i have little to box. unfortunately, i found this out the hard way. one evening, i headed into manhattan to see skinnerbox at wetlands. i was rather surprised when a ska band took the stage. they were a pretty good band but, alas, they weren't who i had wanted to see. sigh. (i've since taken to calling them skanner box.) woj

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From: Aloysious

Subject: Re: CD Singles for Sale...

I have the Following CD singles for sale Lush - Sweetness and Light - BAD 0013 CD Lush - Scar - JAD 911 CD Lush - Mad Love - BAD 0003 CD Curve - BLACKERTHREETRACKERTWO - ANXCDS 42 Make me and offer. Please send private e-mail Piotr Tokarski

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From: Adrian Sevitz

Subject: Throwing Muses

Does anyone know where the Throwing Muses cover for Hunkpapa comes from. I can find any credit or information anywhere on the album. Gnome ...everybody falls down... Throwing Muses +-------------+--------------------------------+--------------------+ | _____ | Gnome | She called me | | ( o o ) | adrian.sevitz@digtec.co.za | from the corner | | (__v__) | P.O.Box 786782 | of a song I never | | | | Sandton | liked. | | *--+--* | 2146 | | | | | South Africa | The | | _/ \_ | | Drovers | +-------------+--------------------------------+--------------------+ --- . SPEED 1.40 [NR] . God does not play dice - ALbert Einstein ---- -~-+-_-~-+-_-~-+-_-~-+-_-~-+- Digitec Online +-_-~-+-_-~-+-_-~-+-_-~-+-_ +-_-~-+-_-~-+-_-~-+-_-~-+-_-~- South Africa _-~-+-_-~-+-_-~-+-_-~-+-_-~