4ad-l Mail for 11-10-1994

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Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 22:29:37 -0500
From Paul Sorensen
Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 23:18:59 -0800
From vilexile
Subject Nordenstam: dissent and spew
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 02:46:18 -0600
From Sanz
Subject Hugo Largo
Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 21:00:43 -0600 (CST)
From Darryl Stephen Roy
Subject Re: first dreampop song?
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 10:31:33 GMT
From Andrew Thorn
Subject Its a conspiracy
Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 21:40:10 -0600
From Jeff Davis
Subject Re: Info sought about 4ad albums
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 13:58:25 RSA
From HOTE <130FS4%WITSVMB@WITSVMA.WITS.AC.ZA>
Subject Re: Its a conspiracy
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 12:17:18 +0000
From Jet Girl
Subject Re: Its a conspiracy
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 12:29:31 +0000
From "gillian.hardy"
Subject Re: Its a conspiracy!!!
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:28:20 RSA
From Theo <130FS4%WITSVMB@WITSVMA.WITS.AC.ZA>
Subject Re: Its a conspiracy
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 13:18:22 +0100
From Laurent Lapierre
Subject Heavenly Voice #3 / Speaking Silence
Date Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:41:54 -0500
From Marvyn Hortman
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 09:22:49 EST
From ""
Subject Re: Dif Juz = "diffuse"
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 16:38:00 +0200
From Adrian Sevitz
Subject Noises of Conspiracy
Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 13:01:54 EST
From Matt Krom
Subject Re: liz appearances
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 15:37:00 +0000
From "s.majeed"
Subject Mail?
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 16:03:31 +0000
From Jet Girl
Subject Re: Its a conspiracy!!!
Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 15:35:17 -0500
From Alexander Jeremy Wolfson
Subject After hours in Tokyo
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 11:23:04 -0600
From Steve Hill
Subject Lisa Germano
Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 15:55:39 -0500
From jOHN yOCHIM
Subject Laika... last time, I promise
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:15:51 -0500
From Richard Singer
Subject Re: Info sought about 4ad albums
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 11:43:35 -0800
From vilexile
Subject Re: Info sought about 4ad albums
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 11:29:23 GMT
From lap1 Grupo 3
Subject CT-forgotten tracks
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:02:29 -0800
From nelson@HELIOS.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject lost CT cd
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 11:50:00 CDT
From Steven Titus
Subject Pram info requested
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 18:19:37 EST
From Lawren Wu
Subject Portishead
Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 18:36:15 -0800
From Brant Nelson
Subject 4AD deletions
Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 12:52:05 +0000
From Lord Purge
Subject Re: Info sought about 4ad albums

Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 22:29:37 -0500

From Paul Sorensen


No, I am not getting double messages, I am just getting old ones. Today I
received messages from Oct4, 8, 13, 23 . . . . . . . . .Well, I wonder
Paul

Slap Me On The Patio

Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 23:18:59 -0800

From vilexile

Subject Nordenstam: dissent and spew


On Wed, 9 Nov 1994, bmilner wrote:

>         The next record, released a few weeks ago is not as good I think,
> though it has been getting glowing reviews. "and she closed her eyes"
> just wasn't ready yet to me. She takes less chances with her melodies and
> her vocals aren't recorded as smoothly. They also throw in some cheesy
> synthy a la Tori Amos drum parts that really muddy up the organic feel
> that I liked about the first record. Buy the first one, if you like it a
> lot, then you will like this one too.

I would disagree with most of this. As I've mentioned several times
before on this list, I think And She Closed Her Eyes is the best album
yet to be released this year, so know that this comes from someone who
really *loves* that record. First, I don't know why you said that about
her melodies; I found them to be more interesting, especially in the way
they interact with the chords and other melodies; it is really a tricky
kind of songwriting the likes of which you don't see much of any more.
The vocals are indeed not as smooth, and this might turn some people off
but you make it sound as though it was an accident, which it clearly was
sounds like she' singing right in your ear. A lot of people find it
obnoxious, but it can grow on you. I am charmed by it. It also is a split
from the somewhat derivative elements of the first album. She's really
got a unique style at this point.

On the point of the cheesy Tori Amos drum stuff, I'm not really sure what
you're talking about. The album is as organic as they come, and the few
bits that strike me as processed are not nearly as much so as the last
album almost in its entirety. Not that this is a bad thing, but I much
prefer the atmosphere it gives And She Closed Her Eyes. The few
artificialities contrast with the roughness of the album in a way that is
often disturbing, and never seemed intrusive or bothered me much, but
then you are clearly more enamoured of the professional and acoustic
sound of the first album, where I am not. I can see a lot of people not
liking this second album, but I would call it successful in its methods
where it creates its atmosphere from its elements, and I think the
songwriting is among the best and most clever you'll hear today.

Another thing I would add, which is a major part of why I like her, is
that she is imo an absolute master of the interlude. She has a way of
suddenly washing over her songs with something completely alien to them
and having them fit perfectly, always very emotional and usually a relief
from tension. Generally speaking, these bits are flavorful and original
in their instrumentation or overall sound, and have a melody that seems
to intersect with the rest of the song and cast it in a whole different
light. nothing against the first record, but she hadn't so perfected this
at that point, or at least hadn't been inclined to use it for the most
part.

I also want to add that her lyrics are beautiful and peculiar. They
address odd subject matter, use unpredictable metaphors and leave you
wondering just what in the hell actually happened. She tells great
stories without entering into an irritating narrative, and I can think of
few other people I'd say that about. Even the best lyricists discussed on
this list avoid really getting into that. The only person I can think to
compare her to is Suzanne Vega, (of whom I admit I may have an unfairly
good opinion because I only have her last album.) She is mysterious
without being cryptic. She leaves you uncertain, but is at the same time
pointed. She never deviates into psychobabble or guts-spilling. They are
lyrics to be proud of, and they are the mirror of their music. One has to
wonder which comes first or if they materialise simultaneously.

Again, my highest recommendation. I file my Stina CDs, with a clear
conscience, right between my Echo and the Bunnymen collection and my And
Also the Trees records. Hey! Those are the other people I was trying to
think of with regard to storytelling in lyrics. I did not even realise
this. Damn.


 stinaphile einexile


Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 02:46:18 -0600

From Sanz

Subject Hugo Largo


This was on the dreampop list & I remembered that there had been quite a
bit of Ugo Largo interest here, so:

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Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 21:00:43 -0600 (CST)

From Darryl Stephen Roy

Subject Re: first dreampop song?


Eeek.  If this goes on, well be disecting Strauss's art songs for
dreamy references.

With regards to "modern" and hence, self-conscious, dreampop, my
vote is for the early A.R.Kane singles.  They, after all, coined
the term.

With regards to the much lamented Hugo Largo, the band sans Mimi
Goese recorded Hetch Hetchy's "Swollen" on Texas Hotel records.
Hetch Hetchy's singer has a Siouxsie fixation, but the music is
sublime.  The singer, BTW, is Linda Stipe, sister of REM's singer.

Mimi Goese is an active performance artist in New York.  You can
often find listings of her works in "High Performance" (or is that
the title?) or "Village Voice."

Hahn Rowe is a fairly active session violinist.  He toured with
Foetus a couple of years ago, and I've seen him credited on a number
of albums, most recently, Micheal Brook's _Cobalt Blue_.

Tim Sommner, MTV scripter and fanzine writer prior to Hugo Largo, has
continued freelancing, I believe.

I've no idea what happened to the fourth member, whose name escapes me
at present.

Love and toast.
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Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 10:31:33 GMT

From Andrew Thorn

Subject Its a conspiracy



Ever wondered why certain bands (usually on large wealthy labels) seem to
mysteriously appear out of nowhere, to suddenly be spread accross
numerous publications / medias ? and that some of them are so crap that my
cat wouldn't even bother to vomit on their records ? but they still get mass
coverage despite the fact that even the journalists in the most part dislike
them...also noticed the large adverts that accompany them?

This 'bribe'; journalism (buying ads in exchange for coverage) is called
Payola. the logical conclusion to the payola system is to place a vast
amount of power in the hands of a few wealthy companies, and to degrade the
ability of the press to act as a truthful critical body
(which they present themselves to be) due to their relying on advertising
revenue for survival. I'm not suggesting for one moment that things have got
so bad that payola dictates every article you read, but it does exist
(to varying degrees) and due to the factors below, is on the increase.

If payola was isolated to the music business, then i would have to admit that
the issue would be trivial, but given that it appears to thrive (at least to som
 degree)in all of the private media networks, and couple that with the fact that
our idependent BBC is being undermined and eroded away (eventually, it seems to 
e replaced by a smaller number of hugely powerfull, ever expanding 'media empire
') it makes the future prospects of "freedom of speach" in any significant form 
or the ordinary citizen (who does not happen to agree with politics / philosophi
s of the wealthy 'power' Elite, or who does not have the money to 'buy' media) p
etty bleak.

The implications to our democracy also becomes an issue, because in an age
where we rely so heavilly on mass media for information, should the very
information we need to choose our political parties be in the hands of a few
media barrons who by their nature (and that of their wealthy payola advertisers)
will favour a certain government setup?

The Music :

Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 21:40:10 -0600

From Jeff Davis

Subject Re: Info sought about 4ad albums


|     but also some weaker stuff.. Four-Calendar Cafe is the newest one, and
|     is their least impressive LP (but I still like it a lot)... Oh, and
|

|This Mortal Coil, FSOL, Soundtrack for The Crow, The Coolest Christmis CD,
|...and what else?

although by no means new news, don't forget Ian Mcculloch's Candleland
and Dif Juz' Extractions.

|


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Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 13:58:25 RSA

From HOTE <130FS4%WITSVMB@WITSVMA.WITS.AC.ZA>

Subject Re: Its a conspiracy

              10 Nov 1994 10:31:33 GMT from 

Hmmm,interesting viewpoint there,man.I dont know if I want to argue or not,but
do any of you who are old enough remember the day when Penis Envy by Crass shot
into the national charts on strength of sales,and the following week had disapp
eared when sales were better than the previous week?Rumour had it that some
large concern paid lots of money to see them disappear.BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!
I would agree that Payola plays a large part in the music industry(Record touts
'n' all)Ivo had some views years back on "promoters",but I cant fer sureput my
finger on the reference.His views were not laudatory,but obviosly time has chan
ged his opinion.


Anyway,thanks for a interesting posting that will get us all off the boring stu
ff that we have been kicking all week.


HAS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE BILL BECOME LAW YET????

THEO

Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 12:17:18 +0000

From Jet Girl

Subject Re: Its a conspiracy


>
> HAS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE BILL BECOME LAW YET????
>


Yep. I believe we should now refer to it as the Criminal Justice Act.

So just remember that when your neighbours kids are having a birthday
party and there are more than 16 children there, as a good, honest,
upstanding citizen it is your duty to get on the blower to your local
police station and report them (can't remember what clause the groups
of people bit comes under)...


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Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 12:29:31 +0000

From "gillian.hardy"

Subject Re: Its a conspiracy!!!

              94 12:17:18 pm

Are you being a killjoy???  I take it the people next door to you in Cov had
a weedy party that your haouse wasn't invited to and, because of the noise,
you were kept up until, ooh, at least 10.30pm by the fabulous sounds of
Whigfield's Saturday Night (bet thats the first time she's been mentioned on
this mailing list!).

Yeah, I actually agree with it too to be perfectly honest.

Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:28:20 RSA

From Theo <130FS4%WITSVMB@WITSVMA.WITS.AC.ZA>

Subject Re: Its a conspiracy

              10 Nov 1994 12:17:18 +0000 from 

Jeezuz wheeezuz!!I cant believe that that monstrosity has become law.
Living in South Africa I can expect a lot of shitty laws,but coming from
A Civilised Country like England I was very,very,very surprised.
We have had legislation which is totally draconian,but never has the right to s
ilence been swept away in as many words.Our pigs have always had to torture ppl
to get the story that they want,this new invention of your parliament.
The 10 ravers raving in one spot or travelling etc is old hat;we had a similar
thing,but only all gatherings of 3 or more were "outlawed"!!!!

On to the payola thing:My synapses just fired,and without boring the list with
lengthy Marxist debate,I think that the biggest flaw with the argument concerni
ng the implications for society as a whole is that it smacks too closely of the
 Instrumentalist theory of law and state.Equating control of the means of produ
ction with control of superstructural elements is attractive at first blush,but
a sound application of either Neo-marxist or Anarchist writings will soon
disabuse one of the notion that life is that simple.
Feel free to argue,I am no expert on this stuff(Iwas once,but lost interest)
Theo

Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 13:18:22 +0100

From Laurent Lapierre

Subject Heavenly Voice #3 / Speaking Silence


--------

Date Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:41:54 -0500

From Marvyn Hortman


Also, has there been any further news on the existence of the third "Heavenly
Voices" CD/French edition?
--------

Well, I've got the third edition as well as the previous one, but
this new CD is just a merchandising product which is offered with
the new Projekt CD. (I've received mine with Love Is Colder Than
Death's Oxeia lp.

There is no box, only a paper cover. Tracklist:

1. Love is colder than death: In Silence and Tears
2. Stoa: Autumn
3. View: Sunday Morning Faces
4. Anchorage: Dawn
5. Love Spiral Downwards: And The Wood comes into leaf
6. Dark Orange: Four Winds
7. Manic P: Untitled
8. Black Tape From a Blue Girl: Our future imagined
9. Chandeen: Lumis
10. Speaking Silence: Immunity

I think most of this product is only excerpt off lps (or to come lps),
but I can't be sure: there was a little poster with the CD, but I don't
have it here.

Does anybody has got information about Speaking Silence ? (a band with the
female singer of Trees Dance, near from Rise and Fall Of a Decade. Theses
are two french bands so I don't think many of you know about them, and
I've no comparison to make. Arty, female voice, guitars and reminiscence
of classical musics...)


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Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 09:22:49 EST

From ""

Subject Re: Dif Juz = "diffuse"

              8 Nov 1994 08:50:53 -0800 from Brant Nelson
              

Have you poor souls nothing better to do than debate such dribble?
Get a life!

-The big Gay one

Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 16:38:00 +0200

From Adrian Sevitz

Subject Noises of Conspiracy


I know this isn't 'bout music, but it seems to follow in the same vein as a
couple of letters I just read, so I'll post it anyway.

I friend of mine immigrated from SA to germany 'bout 2 months ago. He
mailed the following to me about 2 weeks ago.

(S> German's are the most fond of paperwork. We have to register for each exam
(S> separately, each on a form that produces 3 extra carbon copies. Then we
(S> also have to fill out the summary of all. Whew! Now they've also introduced
(S> a new law concerning dogs. The owner of a dog that barks at any time between
(S> 13h00 - 15h00 , 22h00 - 06h00 or more than for 30 minutes a day outside thes

(S> times could pay a DM10000 fine if he's (or rather his dog's) reported. SOME-
(S> BODY PLEASE HELP THESE PEOPLE.

Gnome
Who's dog is well behaved - NOT :-)
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Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 13:01:54 EST

From Matt Krom

Subject Re: liz appearances


Add the Ian McCulloch song "Heaven's Gate", which appears on his
"Mysterio" album.

-Matt K
krom@Media.mit.edu


>Liz Fraser has appeared on the following (please add to this if I've missed
>anything...)
>
>Dif Juz  "Love Insane"
>The Wolfgang Press  "Respect" (cover of the Aretha Frankling toon)
>FSOL  "Lifeforms'
>Fuel  "Butterfly Knife"
>Ian McCulloch  "Candleland"
>Medicine  "Time Baby 3"
>Felt  "Primitive Painters"
>This Mortal Coil   "Song to the Siren"
>                   "Another Day"
>                   "Sixteen Days" -- am I right about this one?
>Peace Together  "Be Still"


Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 15:37:00 +0000

From "s.majeed"

Subject Mail?


                Greetings all

I have not received any mail from the list for some time now.

Is everything alright??






Cae  Lian  Dar

s.majeed@uk.ac.strath.ccsun

Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 16:03:31 +0000

From Jet Girl

Subject Re: Its a conspiracy!!!

              94 12:29:31 pm

> Are you being a killjoy???

Sheeesh!!!  Have you people up in Sunderland never heard of sarcasm???
Or are *you* too busy listening to and swooning over your new Barbra
Streisand CD???  *SMILES*


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Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 15:35:17 -0500

From Alexander Jeremy Wolfson

Subject After hours in Tokyo


I will be in Tokyo from December 10-December 17.  In terms of the
clubbing scene, what is of interest these days.  I was at Juliana's last
time, which was a bit too mainstream for me.  I prefer dark caverns
w/heavy bass, etc.  Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Alex

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Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 11:23:04 -0600

From Steve Hill

Subject Lisa Germano


Does anybody out there have a list of John Mellencamp *videos* that feature
Lisa Germano? If not, let's make one...
-shill

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Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 15:55:39 -0500

From jOHN yOCHIM

Subject Laika... last time, I promise


Yeah Yeah... Me again.

I forgot to Give Praise to the New Laika in my last post, so here it is:

I LOVE it SO MUCH it HURTS!!  My entire body falls into a mad fit of
unbridled orgiastic ecstacy every time I play it!!

Hows that?  Really, though, I haven't been so excited over any one piece of
music since i first heard MOONSHAKES "Big Good Angel" and MEDICINES "Shot
forth self living".

I'm so happy that Guy Fixson is in the band.  For any of you that don't know
who he is, he's the guy who produced a bunch of MOOSE and MOONSHAKE things.
He adds a wonderful element to the band that was missing in MOONSHAKE.
Everyone need Laika for a "short happy life".
          -jOHN s


Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:15:51 -0500

From Richard Singer

Subject Re: Info sought about 4ad albums


. . . Ear  wrote:

>Liz Fraser has appeared on the following (please add to this if I've missed
>anything...)

>Dif Juz  "Love Insane"
>The Wolfgang Press  "Respect" (cover of the Aretha Frankling toon)
>FSOL  "Lifeforms'
>Fuel  "Butterfly Knife"
>Ian McCulloch  "Candleland"
>Medicine  "Time Baby 3"
>Felt  "Primitive Painters"
>This Mortal Coil   "Song to the Siren"
>                   "Another Day"
>                   "Sixteen Days" -- am I right about this one?
>Peace Together  "Be Still"

_The Moon and the Melodies_, by Liz Fraser, Robin Guthrie, Simon
Raymonde and Harold Budd.

-- Richard Singer

Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 11:43:35 -0800

From vilexile

Subject Re: Info sought about 4ad albums


On Thu, 10 Nov 1994, Richard Singer wrote:

> . . . Ear  wrote:
>
> >Liz Fraser has appeared on the following (please add to this if I've missed
> >anything...)
>
> >Dif Juz  "Love Insane"
> >The Wolfgang Press  "Respect" (cover of the Aretha Frankling toon)
> >FSOL  "Lifeforms'
> >Fuel  "Butterfly Knife"
> >Ian McCulloch  "Candleland"
> >Medicine  "Time Baby 3"
> >Felt  "Primitive Painters"
> >This Mortal Coil   "Song to the Siren"
> >                   "Another Day"
> >                   "Sixteen Days" -- am I right about this one?
> >Peace Together  "Be Still"
>
> _The Moon and the Melodies_, by Liz Fraser, Robin Guthrie, Simon
> Raymonde and Harold Budd.
>
> -- Richard Singer

The Wolfgang Press, "I Am the Crime"

...and isn't there another song or two off Candleland?


 einexile


Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 11:29:23 GMT

From lap1 Grupo 3

Subject CT-forgotten tracks


Hi there!

Recently I went to London and bought a Cocteau Twins Compilation called
"The Forgotten 4AD Tracks" featuring songs from their various singles between
82 and 91.
It looks like a bootleg, but inside it is mentioned that it is a
promotional copy and not for sale.

What's the story behind this CD ?

Thanks

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Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:02:29 -0800

From nelson@HELIOS.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU

Subject lost CT cd


I've seen it too and it's definitely a bootleg since:

1. The price is over $30. A legitimate release wouldn't be this
   expensive.

2. The title is dumb. The CD is basically the box set all on one CD,
   and all of these tracks are still readily available.

brant


Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 11:50:00 CDT

From Steven Titus

Subject Pram info requested


That's right, Pram info requested. I welded "Helium" into my CD player a few
weeks back (thanks to Boroda) and it is finally coming loose. Can anyone
review/recommend their other releases. If there ever is a circus in outer space,
Pram will definitely be under the big top.

titus


Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 18:19:37 EST

From Lawren Wu

Subject Portishead


Um.

So with all the talk about Portishead, I feel ignorant.

What do they sound like, and who are they?

Thanks.

Lawren
lcwu@mit.edu

Date Thu, 10 Nov 1994 18:36:15 -0800

From Brant Nelson

Subject 4AD deletions


The following items have been deleted from the 4AD catalogue
and are no longer available:

Frank Black - Hang On To Your Ego 7"
Breeders - Divine Hammer 10"
The Moon and the Melodies LP
Cocteau Twins - Victorialand LP
Colourbox - World Cup Theme 7"
Colourbox - Say You 7"
Colourbox - The Moon Is Blue 7"
Lush - Sweetness And Light 7"
Pale Saints - The Comforts Of Madness LP
Xymox - Medusa LP

Also the final release of the year is
AD/BAD/BAD CD 4018 Throwing Muses - Bright Yellow Gun

More info to come.
brant
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Date Wed, 9 Nov 1994 12:52:05 +0000

From Lord Purge

Subject Re: Info sought about 4ad albums


"Michael R. M. Cheselka"  writes:

>What other collobarations does Elizabeth appear on?

>This Mortal Coil, FSOL, Soundtrack for The Crow, The Coolest Christmis CD,
>...and what else?

She also appears in the Wolfgang Press' "I am the crime" and their
cover of "Respect", and on Dif Juz's "love insane".  And in some Ian
McColluch (don't kill me if I butchered the spelling) song.

>What about Robin and the others?

Will Heggie left the cocteau twins after garlands and joined the band
LowLife

purge!
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