I'm wondering if anyone out there has a Moonshake discography... If not, could whoever has _First_ send me label and track info, please? (send that directly to me, of course...) About LG, who is going to the show in Detroit Wednesday? I think the album is great -- heavy on atmosphere and depressing, but everything seems to fit together. How do the new songs translate live? As I remember, there was one review that didn't like her set, so what do others think? Curious, matt h (firstname.lastname@example.org) ps... Does anyone know anything about a band called Jessamine (or something like that)? I saw a single (cool packaging) and an album at the local record store and want to know what they're like. The album is out on the same label as Labradford.
>3) Does anyone remeber the song Twisted, which was played live during > during the Phoenix tour ? In Chicago, it was right before Phoenix. > >4) By the Phoenix tour, were XYMOX even playing their instruments ? > During Craving, I could swear Anka put her bass down, yet the bass > was still playing
. Howdy, I was also at the Chicago Phoenix show! It was really incredible, I didn't expect them to be nearly as good live. Yeah, "Twisted" is a Phoenix b/side, one of the better songs at the Chicago show. Sure, they were playing marvelously. Don't forget that there were some sampled bass lines and drum beats, but of the sort that you wouldn't expect them to play them in the first place. Most of the time, live drums were mixed with samples, and Anke's cool fluid bass was overlaid by simpler sampled lines. During one or two of her songs, Ronny picked up the bass... Thanks for the reviews -- neither of those discs sounds exciting, think I'll look for Subsequent Pleasures! Cheers, Matt Krom email@example.com
Okay, the future here is uncertain. Julianna is currently absorbed w/ academia, and I don't think that there are any further plans for Skinner box at the moment. She told me once, quite a while ago, that she might be headed back in the general direction of the local studio, but she hasn't mentioned it in the last few times we've spoken. Sorry about the overproduced comment! I quite like the first album esp. "Field of Holes." Her opinion about too much reverb on that one has kinda rubbed off on me. It's still beautiful. And funny that the Cranes should be mentioned, 'cause the first time I heard "Wings of Joy" ith a lot of that piano, I thought of Skinner box. If there are those out there who care about Skinner box and would like to see future releases as much as I woul, please write her. I don't have TS's address handy, but i can find it an' email it to all interested parties. I usually beg and plead for more of her work, but she's used to that by now. Lance
said: > > I'll raise you a quarter and say that the Autechre album itself is pretty > tasty. In fact it's wonderful and better than the single...but the > Seefeel mix is definitely brilliant, as is the recent version of > Charlotte's Mouth on Excursions in Ambience 3 (which otherwise, for lack > of a more well considered opinion, is crap except for the very depressing > but nice Aphex Twin track.) > Which Autechre album? I have two now, "Amber" was released in the UK yesterday. Eleven tracks, none previously released, nice cover. Haven't listened to it all, and I was dog-tired when I got home last night, but it sounds great - a lot more rhythmic than "Incunabula", like the "Anti" EP. -- Andrew Norman, Leicester, England | Jedermann sein eigner Fussball firstname.lastname@example.org |
I believe it was also released on CD together with two other ep's originally released by 4AD (from other groups). This CD was a japanese pressing and quite expensive. Andre ================================================= |Drs. Andre M.A. van Leeuwen email@example.com| |Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science (CWI)| |Kruislaan 413, 1098 SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands| =================================================
Lee Graham Bridges wrote >I'm becoming a big fan of the Cocteau Twins and Dead Can Dance. I have a >couple of albums from each one. I was wondering if someone could give me >some feedback about their albums, perhaps tell which ones are strongest and >which are weakest, 'cause I plan on collecting all of them. Also info on >albums by His Name Is Alive, Xymox, Lush, and This Mortal Coil would be >appreciated. Thank you. Well, lately there's been a lot of mouthy shooting off, saying this band's crap and that band's ace and saying DCD ripped LSD and Siouxsie would be nothing without Liz etc. etc. And you know what, I want a piece of the action. So just wrap a huge big IMHO round the rest of this post and sprinkle it liberally with salt (espesh since I haven't actually heard some of the records I'm about to slag off). With the Cocteaus, the best albums are Treasure and Head Over Heels. Both are brilliant. Also, everybody should have Victorialand. Garlands is pretty good too and I wouldn't complain if you bought Blue Bell Knoll or Head Over Heels. Steer clear of Four Calendar Cafe, it's crap. As to what they sound like, Garlands is pretty harsh, sharp guitars and a wailing voice. Treasure is kinda etherial bliss-out and Head Over Heels is musically inbetween (as befits the chronology). Victorialand is very gentle, almost acoustic while Blue Bell Knoll sees the beginning of the slide into MOR blandness. It gets worse from there on in. As for Dead Can Dance, the only one worth bothering with is the first. The rest are pseudo-interesting masturbatory crap. There is hardly a decent song or anything on Within The Realm or The Serpent's Egg. As for His Name Is Alive, this is another group that's got worse (I once came across a group that got better with time but I can't remember who it was). Livonia is pretty good and Home Is In Your Head is worth considering too. It's downhill therafter. Xymox are a joke. To be consistent, I should also say they are crap. Their first few albums were a dreadful goth nonsense and there last few are a dreadful disco nuisance. Scar, by Lush, was a very good debut. Nothing else by them is worth the time of day (ie., they are now crap). This Mortal Coil are the prime example of a group/idea going downhill. It'll End In Tears was excellent, while Filligree and Shadow was pretty good. But Blood is awful. Hardly a decent song on it. Just as well TMC aren't doing any more stuff cos. it'd be ... crap. What would a psychologist say about the fact that I think all groups go downhill ("Well Mr Hughes, considering your progressively more unhappy childhood, and the fact that Dead Can Dance piss over everything else on 4AD, I am forced to conclude that you are full of crap"). Oh boy, being rude and blunt is kinda fun. But I gotta grow up again now, so... Simon
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writes: >I believe it was also released on CD together with two other >ep's originally released by 4AD (from other groups). >This CD was a japanese pressing and quite expensive. Wait, I think I remember hearing about that once. Could anyone tell me the name of that album? Thanks for the offer. -- When People contend for the Liberty, they seldom get anything by their Victory but new masters. --George Savile, Marquis of Halifax
For the uninitiated: Autechre are an incredible amazing ambient project on Warp, the world's first *perfect* recod label. :) They sound something like the Aphex Twin's "Polygon Window" project--ambience in a peaceful atmosphere with sinister overtones similar to the Reload album A Collection of Short Stories. Some Autechre songs are _beautiful_ ...others are menacing and ominous. They are always catchy, and invoke (for me, anyway) an unusually wide array of emotions for electronic music. In that way, the only band I would say can outdo them is my personal fave, Black Dog Productions. Rhythmically they are similar, though Autechre has a very clean sound. It is this sterility which gives them much of the unique dread, hostility, regret, and urgency that sets them apart from other bands. I *highly* recommend them. On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, A.J. Norman wrote: > > I'll raise you a quarter and say that the Autechre album itself is pretty > > tasty. > Which Autechre album? I have two now, "Amber" was released in the UK > yesterday. Eleven tracks, none previously released, nice cover. > Haven't listened to it all, and I was dog-tired when I got home last > night, but it sounds great - a lot more rhythmic than "Incunabula", like > the "Anti" EP. Damn! DAMN DAMN DAMN!! I had no idea anything was planned; I'd assumed that since Anti was a special release, nothing was planned so soon, plus, isn't Incunabula fairly young? It's times like these I have a slight pang of regret that I do not torment myself with a subscription to that most wretched of all internet mailing lists, idm. Didn't the last album come out in January? Wow. Anyhow, I don't see how you can get much more rhythmic than Incunabula... is that nice evil spooky sound still there? It was kind of gone from the track on AI2, which I adored anyway. How does that song compare? Chatter, I mean. (I don't have Anti.) (For your reference, I *die* over 444 and Bike.) Is there a way to order direct from Warp? I find that the channels of communication are always breaking down between their releasing something and me finding out it's available. What's a good source for this information? Can one perchance order direct from Warp its holy self? einexile
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said: > > Damn! DAMN DAMN DAMN!! I had no idea anything was planned; I'd assumed > that since Anti was a special release, nothing was planned so soon, > plus, isn't Incunabula fairly young? It's times like these I have a > slight pang of regret that I do not torment myself with a subscription to > that most wretched of all internet mailing lists, idm. Didn't the last > album come out in January? Wow. I think it was about this time last year that "Incunabula" was released, and it was apparently a compilation of old tracks (like most of Warp's AI series), rather than a purpose-built album like "Amber". The IDM list has a very low s/n ratio (I think vilexile and I were members at about the same time, seems as if we have both come to the same conclusion). > > Anyhow, I don't see how you can get much more rhythmic than Incunabula... > is that nice evil spooky sound still there? It was kind of gone from the > track on AI2, which I adored anyway. How does that song compare? Chatter, > I mean. (I don't have Anti.) They don't sound as "spooky" - the characteristic Autechre sound for me was that buzzing that electrical equipment makes just before it dies. The newer sound is rhythmic, but in a far more intricate way than their earlier stuff. "Anti" is superb - three non-album tracks, 25 minutes. If people aren't sure about electronic music, I'd highly recommend Warp's "Artificial Intelligence II" compilation, especially if you can get hold of the limited double CD. Most of the "big names" are on it (Global Communications, Black Dog, B12, Autechre, Beaumont Hannant, Seefeel), and it is much better than the first compilation (good though that was). To bring the subject slightly closer to 4AD, I'll grab the addresses of mail-order places from tomorrow's NME and post them to the group - I ordered some stuff from Adrian's a couple of weeks ago and got a pretty prompt response (albeit on some fairly common stuff - I have a nasty feeling that some of the rarites in their catalogue are never going to turn up in my letter box). They welcome overseas orders, so that may be a good way for people abroad to get hold of UK releases. -- Andrew Norman, Leicester, England | Jedermann sein eigner Fussball firstname.lastname@example.org |
On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, Simon Hughes wrote: > Lee Graham Bridges wrote > > This Mortal Coil are the prime example of a group/idea going downhill. It'll > End In Tears was excellent, while Filligree and Shadow was pretty good. But > Blood is awful. Hardly a decent song on it. Just as well TMC aren't doing an > more stuff cos. it'd be ... crap. I've always had the impression that the majority of the list thinks it's the other way around (as do I). What I can't understand, and never will, is why they included 'Not Me' on 'It'll End In Tears'...that song almost ruined the album for me. On the other hand, 'Fond Affections' and 'Another Day' are up there with my all time greatest, so... Jon _________________________o\O/o_________________________ ceejok | "Wrinkled earlobes are a sure sign of @cee.hw.ac.uk | impending heart attacks"
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I must agree with most of Simon's views on TMC.It may be that most of the list feel that IEIT and F+g are weaker than Blood,but I always felt that Blood was b y far the best,with Tears beating a close second.Maybe it is because I had got my slutty little paws on these as they came out,and my perspective on them is still the view I had then:that at the time they were like nothing I had enco untered before.They were fresh and original,and IEIT was new in a world of Gothy guitar noise(this is simplification,Iknow)I havent had the luck(??)of taking them as one set,which several ppl seem to have been able to(apologies if you have been an old timer into TMC from the '60s!!)So,my perception is tainted by my experience,and by the time Blood came out I felt that the formula was getting well-worn and rather over-produced.I still enjoy Blood,but get the distinct impression that Ivo/John may have been trying too hard to eclipse the glories of the first two. On the issue of Not Me,I think it fits in nicely with the rest of the album,tak ing into account that 4AD was not at that stage about conformity,only quality. The exceptional was to be found on 4AD(ANd to a lesser extent still is)and I still rate Colourbox as one of my top 5 4AD bands.To say that Not Me detracts from the album is like saying that Hot Doggie ruins lonely.Bollocks!! Anyway,feel freee to argue.My Reasons facility is back after Fridays little beavis+butthead excursion. It is uncool to be cool HOTE!!
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HMMM,I just read my last bit of acid to the list and realised that I said that Blood was my fave.Scratch that.IT should beFilligree +Shadow,and Ithink that If you bear that in mind the letter will make sense.
Haven't been able to find a copy of the Japanese CD but here is the info I've collected. It contains the following eps Throwing Muses: Chains Changed EP The Wolfgang Press: Big Sex A.R. Kane: Lolita (the first time I see she dance) Frazier Chorus: Sloppy Heart 12" The number on the spine of the disc (_12 Inch Anthology 87_) is CY-4415, with 2 companies listed, Jade Music Co., Ltd., and Nippon Columbia Co., Ltd. The rest of the related information is in Japanese. --mike
said: > > Haven't been able to find a copy of the Japanese CD but here is the info I've > collected. > > It contains the following eps > > Throwing Muses: Chains Changed EP > The Wolfgang Press: Big Sex > A.R. Kane: Lolita (the first time I see she dance) > MARRS: Pump Up the Volume > Frazier Chorus: Sloppy Heart 12" I think that should be: A.R. Kane: Lolita "Anitina" was the B-side to PUTV, and was basically an ARKane song. "Lollita" (sic) was the EP which was ARKane's only 4AD release. -- Andrew Norman, Leicester, England | Jedermann sein eigner Fussball email@example.com |
> I just saw a CD for the first time of Xymox remixes from the Headclouds era. > Although it says "remixes", some are "US only", some are "new mix", they > all sound like the originals to me. There are a lot of tracks on the CD, > like 20. I am a total Xymox fan but am tired of spending $22.99 for > compilations of stuff I already have. Does anyone know if these really are > remixes or just yet another pricy import compilation? Many thanks. I asked about this yesterday... here's whats on it: Xymox - Remix (1990-1994) Zok $20.50 # spiritual high* reaching out* dream on sedated awakening a single day* soul free** b who u wanna b real headclouds* revolve january tight rope walker prohecy it's your life love thrills xdd the beginning high & low love me * = new mix ** = USA only It appears to be stuff from Metamorphosis and Headclouds, and other singles from post-Phoenix Xymox. For $21 its probably not a bad deal, but it depends on your personal taste. -brian firstname.lastname@example.org
> Now that I have babbled on and given fairly substantial reviews > of 2 releases, hopefully someone can answer some of my queries. > > 1) What has become of Anka Wolbert ? It seems that the few songs > that she was given credit for were actually some of my favorite > XYMOX songs. > > 2) Is Pieter up to anything, or has he been playin with House like > Ronny ? The last rumor I heard, which has neither been confirmed or denied, was that "ex-Xymox" members (no mention of who) were working with Toni Halliday (ex-Curve vocalist) in a new band called Bud. And I got this blurb via alt.gothic. No confirmation on this. |> Xymox (Ronny Moorings, Anka Wolbert, an additional keyboard player and (I |> am not 100% sure anymore) a drummer) are doing an extensive tour through |> the Netherlands this moment. I saw them in Amsterdam, september 14th. |> They did a gig with lots of citations from older work. I remember an |> hypnotic version of Stranger. They were announced as gothic-house and |> that's what they sounded like. I enjoyed dancing on it. |> It was in a large club: the Milkyway, but only 40 people showed up. The |> rest of the tour they play in very small places. I think they deserve |> better. > 3) Does anyone remeber the song Twisted, which was played live during > during the Phoenix tour ? In Chicago, it was right before Phoenix. I have it as a b-side, and I actually think it was stronger then most of the stuff on Phoenix. One of the better Anka songs, IMHO. -brian email@example.com
In <9411081532.AA08586@harper.cc.il.us>, Brian McKay wrote: > > 3) Does anyone remeber the song Twisted, which was played live during > > during the Phoenix tour ? In Chicago, it was right before Phoenix. > > I have it as a b-side, and I actually think it was stronger then most of > the stuff on Phoenix. One of the better Anka songs, IMHO. "Believe Me Sometimes", "Twisted", and especially "Down to Earth" are the best tracks from that time, IMHO. If you haven't heard "Down to Earth", it's worth finding. CD single for "At the End of the Day" (but not the 12"). I finally found a copy of "Senses Coalesce"...there are two different vinyl 12" singles for "Blind Hearts" (actually 3 if you count the 4AD single), one of them is promo only and has "Senses Coalesce" which I previously believed to be only available on the cassette single... another great song worth finding. -shill --   Steve Hill Email:firstname.lastname@example.org    Network Specialist Voice:708-925-6273 William Rainey Harper College Fax:708-925-6030    1200 West Algonquin Road Page:708-962-0430   Palatine IL 60067-7398 Still not getting real or using my brain
> imparted the information that the band I've called "Dif Juz" with a hard > "j" is actually pronounced "diffuse" - i.e. the "j" has a "y" sound, as Richard Thomas the drummer for Dif Juz said you can say it either way at the 13 Year Itch. Also I've heard Ivo himself say it with the hard J, and Dave Curtis and Mick Allen didn't correct me when I said it that way. brant
As for Lisa Germano live, she's brilliant IMO. I saw her last night with Pale Saints. Amazing show. A couple of the songs from the new album were done completely solo with a keyboard. Then the whole band got involved. Really good. She's a great musician. It was a really intimate show, too. There couldn't have been more than 50 people there. Pale Saints were amazing as well. I had the opportunity to talk with Meriel for a while before the show. Great conversation....I bought her a drink, too. (She likes vodka/cranberry). Actually, it was amazing how at-ese (that's ease) the band was. They were all very congenial, moving amongst us and goofing off. "Sight of You" and that Buzzcocks cover were brilliant. The whole set was brilliant. I wish they had played "Fine Friend", but Meriel said it wasn't on the list. She did write "I'll never walk into your arms" in my CD book0 let, though. Anyway, go see it if they're coming your way. Mike
Hi gang, I've got a dilemma: CDNOW has three entries for Tindersticks: [TINDERSTICKS................................................] n r . -------------------------------- CD $13.77 Cass $8.97 [AMSTERDAM (LIVE FEB. 4, '94)................................] n r . -------------------------------- CD $20.97 [KATHLEEN (EP) + 3 TRACKS....................................] n r . -------------------------------- CD $11.97 Could anybody give me an arroximate comparisons for last two ones and their studio album - their similarities, differences, different feelings they evoke etc.. Have an ability to pick up any three albums for free so should decide for myself that I want most of all. Another candidates Low and Bark Psychosis, so maybe you can point me out which bands I should prefer (actually I have all studio albums of mentioned above bands on tapes but need CDs badly ...) --- Dmitri Bender......... email@example.com ................................. .............."Nothing is beautiful from every point of view"....Horace
Which is really Re: Info sought about 4AD albums, but I enjoy changing subjects as it suits me so there :-P Simon Sez: > (erm... not exact quote. I'll paraphrase: "everybody is crap") Well this post made me laugh. Maybe cause I've had way to much coffee, and my fingertip are sweating...ooh gross. Also because I like almost everything This Mortal Foil, and Coctoes, and His Name Is Alive and Dead Can Dance have put out, so that's why I don't post too often cause I like eveything, so my opinion is useless :-/ I also love the first to Xymox albums, and I though the new stuff was boring disco tripe. And I disagree with some of e's opinions, but I never argue with him because he always backs up his opinions so well. Except his weird obsessive hatred of Hyperium. :-) And he better get in touch him me if he wants those live UVS recordings. So on to the whole point of this damn post: Again Simon sez: > As for His Name Is Alive, this is another group that's got worse (I once came > across a group that got better with time but I can't remember who it was). Well, one exmple I can think of is the Legendary Pink Dots. Though I like the early albums, it wasn't until Island of Jewels that they hit their peak (IMO of course). And I think pretty much everything through Maria Dimension is great. Feel free to disagree with me, flame me whatever. I know this isn't very thislisty. So to close this completely nonsenseical post, I should tell everyone to go see Killing Joke. They restored my faith in live music. My girl-friend said they were too agressive, but she still admitted that they were great. later on, Thad "This isn't death, this is just an overdose of caffeine"
Hey all you Chicago friends: An unconfirmed rumour puts Pale Saints up for an in-store appearance at Reckless Records (Broadway at Belmont) before the show on Friday. Please post if someone can confirm this. Also for Chicago peoples: This Wednesday (that's tomorrow, evennn...) at Club 950 (come on, you know where it is by now, don't you?) 4AD fanatic Leroy Fields is showing "Toward the Within" by Dead Can Dance on the big screen (and all the little screens too). He's also got giveaways like Lisa Germano, Pale Saints, you know, that sort of thing, and probably tickets for Friday's show. So go. If you're one of the first ten people after 9 pm, get a free 950 t-shirt (it's our 14th anniversary). Also remember that coming November 21 is my Legendary Pink Dots feature night. If you know any Pink Dots fans in the Chicago area, please PLEASE let them know about it. email me with any questions, firstname.lastname@example.org -shill --   Steve Hill Email:email@example.com    Network Specialist Voice:708-925-6273 William Rainey Harper College Fax:708-925-6030    1200 West Algonquin Road Page:708-962-0430   Palatine IL 60067-7398 Still not getting real or using my brain
Somebody mentioned great Tucson bands, and then somebody else mentioned a Arizona Music 'Zine featuring an interview with Alison's Halo. Has anybody heard/seen anything by this band? A few months ago I picked up a mag+CD called _Project X_ that featured Henry's Dress, loveliescrushing, and other cool bands. By far the best track was a debut by AH. The mag said a single or album was forthcoming. I've been keeping an eye out for it, but haven't seen nothin' yet. Reality
Does anyone know if a discography exists for this blissful woman? I have a couple of songs by her on a tape that e made for me (I'm still playing that thing to death, :) ) that are absolutely wonderful, but I haven't been able to find any information on her. Any info would be appreciated...I'm guessing that she must be available as an import only? Also, has there been any further news on the existence of the third "Heavenly Voices" CD/French edition? thanks, marvynHortman "The EPA is responsible for the Challenger accident."
On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, Simon Hughes wrote: > Lee Graham Bridges wrote > > This Mortal Coil are the prime example of a group/idea going downhill. It'll > End In Tears was excellent, while Filligree and Shadow was pretty good. But > Blood is awful. Hardly a decent song on it. Just as well TMC aren't doing an > more stuff cos. it'd be ... crap. I've always had the impression that the majority of the list thinks it's the other way around (as do I). What I can't understand, and never will, is why they included 'Not Me' on 'It'll End In Tears'...that song almost ruined the album for me. On the other hand, 'Fond Affections' and 'Another Day' are up there with my all time greatest, so... Jon and I. I really like the 1st 1/2 of ...Tears. especailly the Alex Chilton covers. Like F&G ok. But I like Blood the best. mark
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>...bah. I saw Mazzy Star here in Cincinnati at Bogart's earlier this yea >(three days after I saw Cocteau Twins at the same place; my ears were >still ringing). The opening band was a last-minute sub of a local band >named "Lazy" (who just released their first CD on Roadrunner -- "Crush" >is a great song), and there were maybe 20 people there during their whole >set. > Hey, I was one of those people. >I still think that about ten minutes into Mazzy Star's set they started >letting people in for free because suddenly the room was full of talking, >smoking, drinking people -- I got burnt by a cigarette -- such that I >couldn't really see the candle-lit stage, much less Mazzy Star. I ended >up pushing my way up by the stage and elbowing anyone who spoke. > Yeah, people were talking all the way thru the show. Two guys behind me must have talked the whole hour about how to make fake passports. What pissed me off the most were the people who kept yelling "Why do you have a microphone up your crotch?" referring to a mic aimed to pick up Hope's tamborine. >Then again, I've come to the conclusion that Bogart's isn't a really cool >place to see someone, though they get a lot of cool bands. (Frente! is on >the 11th... sigh.) People didn't even give Milla a chance when she opened >for Crash Test Dummies, and it was just as loud as the Mazzy Star crowd >noise -- which pissed me off because I had bought the tix to see Milla! > Bogart's does get alot of shits coming to their shows. The best show I've seen there was Lush back in July, the only time I've seen a crowd smaller than the crowd at Mazzy Star was at the Velocity Girl show a couple of weeks ago, but that crowd was pretty cool. the opening bands definitely get most of the bullshit, when Veruca Salt opened for Hole there last month, the people just wouldn't stop yelling "you suck!" But i guess most of the people there were just MTV grunge freaks who couldn't wait for Hole so they could start moshing. Seeya, Matt
> I believe it was also released on CD together with two other > ep's originally released by 4AD (from other groups). > This CD was a japanese pressing and quite expensive. Does anyone have the title, price (yen), catalog #, and label (I assume nippon columbia...) for this? I've got a friend in Japan right now, so... firstname.lastname@example.org "He who clearly apprehends the scheme of existence does not rejoice over life, nor repine at death; for he knows that external limits are not final."
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4aders- afghanistan at nwnd is listening to 1. oasis-definitely maybe 2. suede-dog man star 3. smiths-self-titled(suffer little children in particular) 4. pulp fiction soundtrack 5. red house painters-all of it 6. kristen hersh-hips and makers 7. clan of xymox-self titled 8. my bloody valentine-loveless 9. dead can dance-toward the within (sanvean and dont fade away in particular) 10. house of love-untitled on creation how bout you? jxc rid of the gremlins yet?
It was rough here to. SOme mosher jumped on stage and pulled Hopes dress over her head and then pulled the entire thing off... end of gig. S
Um, don't think I ever got back with the exact info on the Dog Faced Hermans albums for Kelli-Jeanne or anyone else interested. What I have is: "Mental Blocks For All Ages" (1991) "Hum Of Life" (1993) "Those Deep Buds" (1994) The first two are originally on Konkurrel, a Dutch label, but released in the US by Project A Bomb: 2541 Nicollet Ave S. Minneapolis MN 55404 Fax 612-645-1592. The new one is on Alternative Tentacles and should thus have good distribution. The address of the band is Postbus 14767 1001 LG Amsterdam, Holland There is also an earlier release that compiles some EPs; I haven't seen it in stores. Given a choice, I'd say "Hum Of Life" is the best by a very slight margin. The new album is great but not quite as catchy as the other two. I also have here a review of their live show from a friend of mine in >Dog Faced Hermans last night at Moe (Mo'roc'n Cafe) were pretty damn >hot. Andy really did use a viola on Jan 9, not a bowed guitar as >someone on the 4AD list had previously reported. The records capture >the live sound perfectly, but not the energy. And not Marion's twitchy >mechanical kinds of movements, the way she computes the angles of >things with her hands, twists and turns the trumpet when she's not >playing it. Only prob: Too short. > >They sell the two-first-EPs CD at the show for a mere $13. (Also the >other 3 CDs, and a decent-but-not-exciting t-shirt.) > >Opening were Hyperlung, origin unknown, who put on an excellent show in >a Labradford vein, with some forays into DFH and similar territory >(i.e., sometimes one guy played sax and it was droney, sometimes he >played trumpet and it was fast and hard). They threw fireworks into the >audience, which was impressive but left my clothes smelling bad. > >Then there was Trenchmouth from Chicago: Fugazi, with bits of Gang of >Four, early Pere Ubu, etc. Good, but not worth a long-distance trip. Jens Alfke ........ OpenDoc Geometer ........ email@example.com "One does not seriously attack the expertise of a scientist, using the undefined phrase 'butt-head.'"
> I believe it was also released on CD together with two other > ep's originally released by 4AD (from other groups). > This CD was a japanese pressing and quite expensive. >>Does anyone have the title, price (yen), catalog #, and label (I assume >>nippon columbia...) for this? I've got a friend in Japan right now, so... Title- "4AD 87 Anthology" Price- 3,300 Yen Catalog #- 33CY-2085 Label- Nippon Coumbia
94 02:41:54 pm > Any info would be appreciated...I'm guessing that she must be available as an > import only? I think at least one of her albums was actually released on Warner Bros. or some other major, since it keeps popping up in used bins. Though with that little publicity behind her, she's probably been dropped by now.
SN is a Sweedish singer whose voice and demeanor has been compared to purveyors of elfin-magic, most notably, Bjork. She has released two albums, the most recent being around last April. European MTV gave her videos a big push around that time, especially on 120 Minutes -- you might ask a subscriber from England or something. I read recently that her last album would be released in the states on some indie-ish label. That's about the best I can do. Oh, and also, she doesn't do live performances, so don't hold your breath for a tour anytime soon. firstname.lastname@example.org
i'm also a fairly new subscribe of this wonderful list and a devote fan of Lush. i saw them here in los angeles at the glam slam, both nights. i thought it was a great show. i'm a d.j. at ucla's radio station and it was there that i heard childcatcher. i fell in love immediately. i also like split. it's the same old lush sound but a lot more mature for them. they've come a long way since gala. the more i listen to split the more i like it. however, there are some really brilliant tunes on gala and spooky i must say. Linh <<
> > > Hi folks, I'm fairly new to this list and just had a few questions > and comments about Lush. First I was wondering if anybody knows where they > are right now and what dates they have played or are going to play on their > current tour. They played my city of Toronto, Canada on Aug.21 and I know > they played Montreal on Aug.22 but that's all I know with regards to shows. > Secondly, I wanted to mention the song Childcatcher by Lush which I > think is absolutely brilliant. It's not available on any of their albums or > singles but only came free with the May 1994 issue of the British music > magazine Select. If you haven't heard it, find someone who has it cause it's > outstanding. > Thirdly I was wondering what people think of Split, the newest album > by Lush. I would be interested to read anybody's opinion on it and would > welcome any mail good or bad regarding it as long as your opinion is backed > up in some way. eg. don't just say it sucked rocks!(tell me why) or if you > liked it, for what reasons. That's all for now > > Gerald Tang > Voice(416)225-7346 > Fax(416)225-7346(same as above) > Internet email@example.com
08 Nov 1994 11:52:00 EST." <9411081826.AA24615@MIT.EDU> >As for Lisa Germano live, she's brilliant IMO. I saw her last night with >Pale Saints. Amazing show. A couple of the songs from the new album were >done completely solo with a keyboard. Then the whole band got involved. >Really good. She's a great musician. It was a really intimate show, >too. There couldn't have been more than 50 people there. I was at the show, too. I'd never heard Lisa Germano before, and must say that I found her set interesting. Her lyrics are certainly not subtle, and they're definitely interesting, but I've never been a real "lyrics" person, preferring vocals that kind of blend in with the song, acting more as an "extra instrument" than as a real message. So, I found the lyrics a bit annoying at times, but the music was good, and the band was very animated. Overall, I pretty good set, coming from a L.G. neophyte. I was a bit disappointed with the crowd, though. I guess you really can't expect much for a Monday night concert with 10:00 pm doors that wasn't really promoted. On top of that, neither L.G. nor Pale Saints really gets any airplay on the commercial "alternative" radio station (WFNX) here in Boston. The great thing was that despite the low turnout both L.G. and Pale Saints gave great performances and didn't seem to mind the small crowd. That's kind of nice, given that many bands these days seem to be afflicted with the MTV syndrome in which they suddenly make it big and then expect huge raucous crowds to worship them just for showing up. >Pale Saints were amazing as well. I had the opportunity to talk with Meriel >for a while before the show. Great conversation....I bought her a drink, >too. (She likes vodka/cranberry). Actually, it was amazing how at-ese >(that's ease) the band was. They were all very congenial, moving amongst >us and goofing off. > >"Sight of You" and that Buzzcocks cover were brilliant. The whole set was >brilliant. I wish they had played "Fine Friend", but Meriel said it wasn't >on the list. She did write "I'll never walk into your arms" in my CD book0 >let, though. Agreed. I thought Pale Saints were brilliant. They are incredibly energetic live, and their songs come across really well. It was great just to stand there and soak up the performance and to watch each of them as they fiddled with their effects pedals and jammed away. All songs were great, although I thought Blue Flower was a bit over-distorted live (the slow, pretty parts). I like the album version better, but I guess that that clear "emptiness" punctuated by a solo guitar and Meriel's voice isn't too easy to reproduce in concert. Henry was amazing. I kept wishing it would go on forever. >Anyway, go see it if they're coming your way. Agreed. >Mike Lawren firstname.lastname@example.org
I just got it and yes they are EXCELLENT remixes of the original songs. IMHO an absolute must have for the avid XYMOX fan/collector. I've been spinning it all weekend. << ARA >> ----------
I just saw a CD for the first time of Xymox remixes from the Headclouds era. Although it says "remixes", some are "US only", some are "new mix", they all sound like the originals to me. There are a lot of tracks on the CD, like 20. I am a total Xymox fan but am tired of spending $22.99 for compilations of stuff I already have. Does anyone know if these really are remixes or just yet another pricy import compilation? Many thanks.
Wht does no one ever list Loves' Easy Tears as their favorite. It's My favorite! I love it. I still put it in the CD player by itself and just leave it on ... Sometimes all night, sometimes for several days!!! Yaa-Hoo! $ 0.02 US Later, James
"The Devil breaks both your hands, Takes your stuff and runs away." -HNIA
Lee Graham Bridges
wrote: >I'm becoming a big fan of the Cocteau Twins and Dead Can Dance. I have a >couple of albums from each one. I was wondering if someone could give me >some feedback about their albums, perhaps tell which ones are strongest and >which are weakest, 'cause I plan on collecting all of them. Also info on >albums by His Name Is Alive, Xymox, Lush, and This Mortal Coil would be >appreciated. Thank you. How can I resist putting in my 2 cents' worth? I agree with everyone who says "Within The Realm of A Dying Sun" is the one of the best. I also think the Ryko disc, _A Passage In Time_, has a good selection for new DCD fans -- you can see what songs come from which albums and choose the albums accordingly. I'd recommend _A Labyrinth In Time_ because it's the first LP of DCD in their current phase, with a greater emphasis on Eastern music and some forays into Celtic balladeering. _Toward The Within_ is also a different sort of DCD album, being that it's live and also that it is their most recent work. (To the person who experssed Gerrard songs near the end of Side 2. If you cry yourself to sleep, it should be *from* those songs, not because of them!) I would also strongly recommend that you see the _Toward The Within_ video if you want to learn about the people behind the music. _Aion_ is good too -- actually, so are _Spleen and Ideal_ and _The Serpent's Egg_. (I admit I don't have these 3, but I think I've heard just about every song from them.) The only album of theirs I haven't enjoyed fully is the self-titled debut -- it's just not as out-of-this-world as the later stuff. I'd say _Filigree & Shadow_ is This Mortal Coil's best LP. You'd probably like _It'll End In Tears_ a lot because it has great vocals by both Liz Fraser and Lisa Gerrard (in fact, I like Fraser's vocals on this one more than any that I've heard in the Cocteau Twins). _Blood_ is almost as good, though -- they're all very, very good. My favorite Cocteau Twins LP is probably _Treasure_. I like His Name Is Alive's _Mouth By Mouth_, though Ryko (as usual) put together a huge selection in _Home Is In Your Head_. I like Lush'es _Gala_ but I don't care much for the later ones. I don't know anything about Xymox . . . -- Richard Singer
8 Nov 1994 17:27:11 EST > Henry was amazing. I kept wishing it would go on > forever. did anyone tape this boston show? as i said before i must have this song on tape!!! thanks again! -joanna- corn tin whistle
Jon wrote >On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, Simon Hughes wrote: > >> Lee Graham Bridges wrote Just in case anyone's confused by the attributions, I (Simon Hughes) wrote the well-reasoned and thoughtful critique :-) of TMC below , not Lee Graham Bridges. >> This Mortal Coil are the prime example of a group/idea going downhill. It'll >> End In Tears was excellent, while Filligree and Shadow was pretty good. But >> Blood is awful. Hardly a decent song on it. Just as well TMC aren't doing a y >> more stuff cos. it'd be ... crap. > >I've always had the impression that the majority of the list thinks it's the >other way around (as do I). What I can't understand, and never will, is why >they included 'Not Me' on 'It'll End In Tears'...that song almost ruined the >album for me. On the other hand, 'Fond Affections' and 'Another Day' are up >there with my all time greatest, so... I tend to agree with all this. Yes, I get the impression that most 4AD-listers think TMC got better rather than worse. Also, much as I like Not Me, I agree it sits rather strangely on It'll End In Tears. Maybe Ivo owed Colin Newman (?who wrote Not Me?) a favour. For me, it's pretty simple. I think Liz Frazer has easily the best singing voice I've ever heard. And Song To The Siren and Another Day happen to rate amongst my favourite songs by Liz. Add to that Fyt and a few good other tracks (which I can't remember offhand), and It'll End In Tears becomes one of my favourite albums. Simon
>Satyrday was JAMC and MAZZY at the Agora in Cleveland. Let me just start >out by saying that the crowd consisted of 98% Assholes, 1% real people, and >1% dust particles and smelly smoke. If anyone knows the people who felt >compelled to slam dance during "fade into you", light up their lighters >during "Halah", and stage dive the entire set, please send them my cooldest >FUCK YOU! Especially to the bitch who kicked me 2x in the face. I pulled >her down and asked her "where am I? Am I at a Pearl Jam show? Am I at a >PHISH concert?"... She then felt compelled to punch me square in the face >2x, and then 4-5 of her buddies helped her out by punching me and nearly >sending me to the floor. What a bunch of shit. I was told by someone else >that I was in the "Party Section" and to "calm down" after I asked some >really loud guy (I couldn't even hear Hope sing) to "shut up". And finally, >all the joints being passed around convinced me that I was in the wrong >building... But noone mentioned the Grateful Dead at the door. I couldn't >even blame the band for playing a 25 minute set, and then RUNNING off stage. So sorry to hear this...people have posted similar experiences about the current Sugar tour on the Sugar list I am on... When you go to see large shows you have to make unfortuneate compromises, and it totally sucks. When is this moshpit crap gonna end? Sometimes I have this fantasy...just me and my favorite band performing for only me and some appreciative fans....hey, it's nice to dream sometimes isn't it? --Brendon ---------------------- Brendon Macaraeg "One Life One Love Let's Get Together It'll Be Alright" email@example.com 72241,1735 firstname.lastname@example.org ---------------------
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